Uyi Iredia: All videos are make-believe.

Mr anony:
Did you watch the video?

Fifty-Fifty:
Nothing new really. Anyone who read the history of Xtianity will arrive at a conclusion that the “religion“ is nothing but confusion upon confusion. Paul and his co-travellers have really succeeded in leading many people (Africans especially, (painfully though) astray. Thankfully, stadium is now attracting pple mor than Church does. Xtianity will fade out especially in Europe as prophesized by Sir Benard Shaw.

cyrexx: Mr Anony, good day.

I have watched the video and it tries to tell us indirectly that Christianity is NOT a made-up system because
1. The founders made no monetary gain from the religious system.
2. No one will die for WHAT HE KNOWS to be a lie.
3. Empty tomb actually proves that Jesus resurrected.
4. No one can duplicate that miracle of resurrection.

Do you agree that these salient points were made in the video, before we move on?

Mr anony:
Good. You watched the video. Now how would you like us to proceed.

cyrexx:

Do you agree that those points were made in the video? I will just address the points directly without reference to the video. That's how I want to proceed.

But first I want to know if we are looking at the same thing and speaking the same language.

Fifty-Fifty:
Nothing new really. Anyone who read the history of Xtianity will arrive at a conclusion that the “religion“ is nothing but confusion upon confusion. Paul and his co-travellers have really succeeded in leading many people (Africans especially, (painfully though) astray. Thankfully, stadium is now attracting pple mor than Church does. Xtianity will fade out especially in Europe as prophesized by Sir Benard Shaw.

cyrexx: Mr Anony, good day.

I have watched the video and it tries to tell us indirectly that Christianity is NOT a made-up system because
1. The founders made no monetary gain from the religious system.
2. No one will die for WHAT HE KNOWS to be a lie.
3. Empty tomb actually proves that Jesus resurrected.
4. No one can duplicate that miracle of resurrection.

Do you agree that these salient points were made in the video, before we move on?

Uyi Iredia:

Mr Anony and Mr anony are different.

Mr anony:
They are one and the same

Mr anony:
They are one and the same

mazaje: Fristly, the claims that the Paul had nothing to gain by coming up with a theology of his own is bogus, evidently he had so much to gain.

He was a leader within the christian community and with that comes status. He was well respected and according to the bible people gave him monetary rewards. . .

So the claim that he had nothing to benefit from is false. . .The early disciples were highly respected within the christian community, and the had enough motive. . .

The knowledge that many people will subscribe to their own theology and live their lives according to what they are putting forward is enough reason to begin a new religion. . .

All people that create of form religions want people to follow their ideas, philosopy and conceptions. . .That is what all of them do. . .That is enough reason for them to start a new religion. . .

Some of the letters attributed to Paul were NOT written by him and even those that were said to be written by him were claimed by others to be written by him , people like Polycarp, Ireanues etc. . .

Secondly the claim that the the disciples of Jesus all suffered violent death is also very bogus, because the stories of their martyrdom came long after they died and were written by the early church fathers, church father that have never meet them or knew them. . .Those stories were just written to strengthen the belief of the early christians. . . If the founders of the religion suffered why won't you suffer with them. . .

The claim that NO one will die for what he believes to be a lie is also not true since we have so many people dying for what they invented, things they know to be lies. .Joseph Smith, Jim Jones just to mention a few. . .

No one knows how PAul died, the church fathers that never knew him or meet him claimed he died for his faith. . .

The empty tomb assertion assertion is very bogus. . .The empty tomb of Jesus does NOT exist any where, it is only a claim propagated by christians and it is not found any where except in christian documents which are non historical. . .The bible is NOT a historical book but a book of theology. . .

The empty tomb assertion is just a claim, akin to the claim that Mohammed acended to heaven on a wing beast in Jerusalem. . .It remains a bogus claim. . .

The ressurection hypothesis remains a bogus claim. . .Mohammed also resurrected from the dead and ascneded to heaven on the back of a wing beast. . .

According to Josephus Emperor Vespasian also ascended into heaven. . .The story of resurrections were so common in the first century. . .

When Justin Martyr(one of the earliest christian apologist) was presented with stories similar to that of Jesus that predated that of Jesus his only reply was that it was the devil that made people to invent stories similar to that of Jesus earlier so as to confuse them and lead them astray. . .

Mr anony: Hahahaha, Mazaje don carry come. Let us see if he knows what he is talking about.

Lol, monetary rewards for selling tents or for preaching the gospel?

Lololol, This is like saying that Goodluck Jonathan would stop attacking Boko Haram and join them because he wants to be as respected as Shekau. It makes no sense

Lololol, yeah of course especially when you know beforehand that the new religion will definitely get you tortured and killed as well as the people you are convincing. Heck you were doing the torturing and killing yourself before you chose that it will be nice to get tortured instead. Impeccable reasoning from the desk of Mazaje.

Lol, but that was not what they did. They claimed they witnessed an event that actually took place. They made this claim to people who could easily have disproved it

Interesting. Can you list the ones written by Paul and those written by other people? Just list them for us and why you think this was written by Paul while the other wasn't. Your ability to do this will convince me that you know what you are talking about and not merely rehashing common internet objections.

Hahahaha, and you know that they are bogus how? Let us even leave the ones that you can dispute. Let us talk about the ones recorded by Luke in the Acts of the Apostles. Are they bogus too?

Comparing apples to oranges, Joseph Smith amassed great wealth due to his story. He wasn't tortured for his "story" but died because a mob shot him to death because he tried to marry their wives. Jim Jones was not persecuted but committed mass suicide. That is not matrydom.

But everyone know Paul was repeatedly tortured and beaten for it. What we don't know is precisely how he died.

lol, Yet the tomb of Christ was known in His time and the apostles proclaimed that He had resurrected in the very same city where He had been buried. Unless you have no respect for history, The fact that Christ's tomb was empty three days after his death is a known and widely accepted fact.

How many people saw Mohammed do this?

As I said, I'd like to see historical documents detailing this

Please quote Josephus saying this.

I am not Justin

Mr Troll: ^^^
. Mr Anony I think you need to do a NL christian tutorial for your folks, dem de fall your hand.

Lololol, This is like saying that Goodluck Jonathan would stop attacking Boko Haram and join them because he wants to be as respected as Shekau. It makes no sense

Deep Sight:
^^^ Thats because you can't! That post by Mazaje was world class and award winning, and it completely destroys every shred of Mr Anony's points. I challenge any christian to attempt rebutting his excellent points. NOBODY CAN.