chaircover: Debrief, surrogacy is where there is a pre arranged agreement between the biological mother and the adoptive patents before pregnancy. What this girl is proposing is not surrogacy because she is already pregnant.

IMO Its the adoption laws and orphanages (how they are being run and funded that needs to be overhauled)

I prefer adoption. it is safer and is more regulated. With surrogacy there is nothing stopping paedophilia's or traffickers to pay any desperate women to produce babies to order.

The Adoption criteria is so stringent these days that If I were to adopt today, Id probably fail some of their tests lol, but the authorities are just making sure that they are matching the right kid to the right family and its important that they get it right for both parties.

debrief08: Baby contrary to popular belief Nigerians adopt oh, infact we have more potential parents tthan we have eligible kids for adoption.
Not every child can be adopted, some their parents drop and say they will come back and they never do, such kids can't be adopted, some their relatives drop when their parents die, these ones have known and surviving relatives and can't be adopted,
Some are victims of abuse, accused of witchcraft or are witnesses in abuse cases, these kids can't be adopted too.
As for the long process, it is for the safety of the kids, our courts are generally slow due to years of neglect, before kids are given out investigations have to be made, each referee carefully checked, different inspection visits mostly unschduled carried out, before the Social worker can recommend the parents/ parent for adoption, then take to the judge who will set a date to review and allow or disallow.
Its for the safety of the child if it is rushed and kids end up with abusers, people who will sell them as s3x slaves it won't be beneficial.

As for publicity, media is expensive oh, the budget for the whole social welfare 36 states 37 plus abuja is less than what is budgetted for food in the Villa, these funds covers mostly school fees, feeding and salaries of social workers.
Mostly there is not even money for fueling of vehicles for investigations and checking on children.
However Few as they are Social workers are some of the most committed and dedicated people you find in Nigeria, most of them have turned their cars into official cars, they use them for work and fuel them by themself to get work done.
They always have car seats incase a baby needs to be picked up no matter the time of day, and in their houses be sure to find pampers and baby food for emergencies.

That's why the push for surrogacy is on, first it lessens the pressure on adoption, secondly it gives a safer option, and thirdly you will notice that unlike when we were younger there are less cases of throwing babies in dustbins, they may not get on the media but through churches, market groups, clubs and associations they educate women on bringing their kids instead of throwing them away.

debrief08: My sister, is it not better they bring the children whole and safe than to take them, maltreat and abuse them and they still end up with social welfare by then damaged and abused mentally, emotionally and physically?
As for Banks and cooperate organizations don't get me started on "social responsibilty" in this country.
A bank will donate 150,000 and use 5 million to get on newsline to cover it, tell me what that is.
The orphanage self will spend more money going to ask for sponsorship than the actuall sponsorship they get.
I don't blame them, its our society, they will struggle to sponsor big brother, dance shows and singing competition because that's what people want, spend millions on that but real care for real issues we don't have that as a culture.
Why can't an organization adopt a whole orphanage and brand it?
Let me not even start on the Christmas shows churches go and do once a year they go and do party and give 2 bags of rich then they say they have done outreach, what happens the rest of the year?

chaircover: Efe what she is planning on doing (as I read for her post) is to give the baby away in exchange for N700k or get rid of it in a week. No where in her post has she said she has any intention of keeping the baby. Please read her post again.

And what does she need the 700k for? After all she is giving up the baby? So she has no need for baby things etc Is the N700K the cost of maintenance for the remaining 6 months? If she has been chased out of her home due to the pregnancy and she is looking to rent somewhere, is she planning on living in a duplex in Lekki? Or why does she need N700K

Efe 700K!!!!!!!!! Not N70K . . . . . She is selling that baby and this has nothing to do with need.

If she wanted help in keeping the baby, she wouldn’t have put a figure up there. She would have come out and ask for help. . . any help at all. We are talking of a life here, not a pair of shoes that you give up just like that. Heck I have some shoes that I hide at the back of my wardrobe when I know that some gimmme gimme gimme people are coming to visit.

bis7: i m thinking of the old way of giving birth and gave it up for couples or single looking for there own children but not free.. if they are able to sponsor me till i gave birth and they have the baby plus 700k given after that i am willingly to leave it but if i cant get anyone between a week from now i will get rid of it [i]so it wont affect my life now and also i dont have enough to take care of myself talkless of a child now.[/i]lopeobama@yahoo.com

chaircover: I responded to you debrief because you used the word surrogacy and Ive highlighted the sentence where you have linked the poster with the word surrogacy. I'm saying it again, This is not surrogacy.

Surrogacy is where childless couples have a pre arranged agreement for a surrogate mother to carry and deliver a baby for them. In many cases they use the husbands spermm. There is nothing about surrogacy in this story and I just wondered why you mentioned it at all.

efe I dont know what she means by the old way. The only thing that crossed my mind was that maybe she is referring to the normal adoption process where money does not change hands.

errrmmmmm 700k is a lot of money in Nigeria.

Commercial surrogacy is the process in which an individual or couple pays a fee to a woman in exchange for her carrying and delivering a baby. At birth, the child is turned over to the individual or couple, either privately or through a legal adoption process. Couples with fertility problems, same-sex couples, and single people who wish to be parents are the most common types of people who seek surrogate mothers. Some celebrities, including Robert De Niro, Kelsey Grammer, and Sarah Jessica Parker, have used surrogates as recently as 2009.

Surrogate mothers may get pregnant through intercourse that may or may not involve the child’s parent.

chaircover: Surrogacy doesn't have much legal standing at least here in the UK and it is widely discouraged because it can very easily turn very messy. Its even illegal for money to change hands except money for expenses. The biological mother can decide to keep the baby and the law wont enforce any pre agreed contracts.

https://www.gov.uk/rights-for-surrogate-mothers

Mother’s rights

The woman who gives birth is always treated as the legal mother and has the right to keep the child - even if they’re not genetically related.

Surrogacy contracts aren’t enforced by UK law, even if a contract has been signed with the intended parents and they’ve paid for any expenses.

It’s illegal to pay a surrogate in the UK, except for their reasonable expenses.