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Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Gold2NairaCom(m): 10:53am On Jul 03, 2013
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope John Paul II has cleared the final obstacle before being made a saint, awaiting just the final approval from Pope Francis and a date for the ceremony that could come as soon as Dec. 8, a Vatican official and news reports said Tuesday.

The ANSA news agency reported that a commission of cardinals and bishops met Tuesday to consider John Paul's case and signed off on it. A Vatican official confirmed that the decision had been taken some time back and that Tuesday's meeting was essentially a formality.
One possible canonization date is Dec. 8, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, a major feast day for the Catholic Church. This year the feast coincidentally falls on a Sunday, which is when canonizations usually occur.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized by the church to discuss saint-making cases on the record, confirmed reports in La Stampa newspaper that John Paul could be canonized together with Pope John XXIII, who called the Second Vatican Council but died in 1963 before it was finished.

There is reasoned precedent for beatifying or canonizing two popes together, primarily to balance one another out. John Paul has been on the fast track for possible sainthood ever since his 2005 death, but there remains some concern that the process has been too quick. Some of the Holy See's deep-seated problems — clerical sex abuse, dysfunctional governance and more recently the financial scandals at the Vatican bank — essentially date from shortcomings of his pontificate.

Defenders of the fast-track process argue that people are canonized, not pontificates. But the Vatican in the past has sought to balance concerns about papal saints by giving two the honor at the same time. Such was the case in 2000, when John Paul beatified John XXIII, dubbed the "good pope," alongside Pope Pius IX, who was criticized by Jews for condoning the seizure of a Jewish boy and allegedly referring to Jews as dogs.

By canonizing John Paul II along with John XXIII, the Vatican could be seeking to assuage concerns about John Paul's fast-track sainthood case by tying it together with the 50-year wait John XXIII has had to endure.

Many Poles have been awaiting the final steps of John Paul's progress, which has been pushed for by Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, the Polish pope's longtime private secretary. "We should be very happy if it is confirmed," Dziwisz's spokesman, the Rev. Robert Necek told Polish TVN24 television. "This is the next and the last step towards canonization. It will be presented to Pope Francis and the pope will take the appropriate decision."

During John Paul's 2005 funeral Mass, chants of "Santo Subito!" or "Sainthood Now!" erupted in St. Peter's Square. Heeding the calls, then-Pope Benedict XVI waived the typical five-year waiting period and allowed an investigation into John Paul's life to begin immediately. The investigation determined that the beloved Polish-born pope lived a virtuous life, the first step in the sainthood process.

Subsequently, the Vatican determined that a French nun who prayed for his intercession was miraculously cured of Parkinson's disease. A second miracle is needed for canonization. The Vatican hasn't divulged any details about that second purported miracle.

Culled from: http://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/2190374-vatican-panel-clears-john-paul-ii-sainthood.html#.1258-stage-hero1-14

Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by italo: 11:19am On Jul 03, 2013
St John Paul II coming soon.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by mamsong9(m): 11:32am On Jul 03, 2013
Hmm... Christianity, so funny. You people have the power to make somebody saint. That power rest with God alone.

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Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Nobody: 11:38am On Jul 03, 2013
TELL HIM TO COME SAINT DEEZ NUTZ grin
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by italo: 11:43am On Jul 03, 2013
mamsong9: Hmm... Christianity, so funny. You people have the power to make somebody saint. That power rest with God alone.

We dont make people saints.

They become saints by cooperation with God's grace and doing his will on earth.

We only DECLARE them saints.

Be quick to study and learn but slow to ridicule and criticize...lest you ridicule yourself.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Nobody: 11:44am On Jul 03, 2013
italo:

We dont make people saints.

They become saints by cooperation with God's grace and doing his will on earth.

We only DECLARE them saints.

Be quick to study and learn but slow to ridicule and criticize...lest you ridicule yourself.
COME SAINT DEEZ NUTZ grin grin

LISTEN THERE ARE 144,000 SAINTS AND NONE OF THEM IS FROM THE NATION OF EDOM. THEY ARE ALL ISRAEL ( REVELATION CHAPTER 7 ). ALL BLACK MEN.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Gold2NairaCom(m): 12:15pm On Jul 03, 2013
mamsong9: Hmm... Christianity, so funny. You people have the power to make somebody saint. That power rest with God alone.

Rhetoric reasoning.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by italo: 12:20pm On Jul 03, 2013
obadiah777: COME SAINT DEEZ NUTZ grin grin

LISTEN THERE ARE 144,000 SAINTS AND NONE OF THEM IS FROM THE NATION OF EDOM. THEY ARE ALL ISRAEL ( REVELATION CHAPTER 7 ). ALL BLACK MEN.

Save the stress. I noticed how smart you are from your first post.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Nobody: 1:40pm On Jul 03, 2013
italo:

Save the stress. I noticed how smart you are from your first post.
grin grin
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by nora544: 1:49pm On Jul 03, 2013
and nigerians call there pastors great man of god but only god nows if they are realy great man of god no one on earth can say something like that.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by mamsong9(m): 2:18pm On Jul 03, 2013
They may be saints in the eyes of men, but not in the eyes of God. please tell me how the leaders the international congregation of gays could become saint before God Almighty.

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Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by tobechi74: 3:22pm On Jul 03, 2013
Nigerian blessed michael tancy has been pending since over 15years while popo john who died few years ago is already a saint...........


At times i doubt if politics is involved in this





(by d way am a catholic)
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by italo: 3:34pm On Jul 03, 2013
Pope John XXIII's case has been "pending" for 50 years. Long before Tansi's.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Syncan(m): 4:15pm On Jul 03, 2013
tobechi74: Nigerian blessed michael tancy has been pending since over 15years while popo john who died few years ago is already a saint...........


At times i doubt if politics is involved in this





(by d way am a catholic)

It all depends on how quick God reveals it, some aspect of the sainthood process depends on Man,this entails investigation into the life of the individual. Some other aspects depend on God, this entails his manifestation of this via verifiable miraculous events associated with the saint or through the intercession of the Saint. St Anthony of Padua was made a saint just 352 days after his death. You may want read about this saint.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jul 03, 2013
Alas some good news...
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by mamsong9(m): 11:35pm On Jul 03, 2013
Syncan:

It all depends on how quick God reveals it, some aspect of the sainthood process depends on Man,this entails investigation into the life of the individual. Some other aspects depend on God, this entails his manifestation of this via verifiable miraculous events associated with the saint or through the intercession of the Saint. St Anthony of Padua was made a saint just 352 days after his death. You may want read about this saint.

Reveal to who? You people like making something out of nothing. God wul rather keep it to Himself than to reveal it to gays.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by SalC: 12:50am On Jul 04, 2013
tobechi74: Nigerian blessed michael tancy has been pending since over 15years while popo john who died few years ago is already a saint...........


At times i doubt if politics is involved in this





(by d way am a catholic)
St Nuno who was canonized by Pope Benedict xvi died some six hundred years ago. He was beatified by Pope Benedict xv and canonized by Pope Benedict xvi almost 98 years later.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Syncan(m): 6:47am On Jul 04, 2013
mamsong9:

Reveal to who? You people like making something out of nothing. God wul rather keep it to Himself than to reveal it to gays.

Yeah, gays whose stand against abortion stopped your mum from flushing you down the drain? Whose works have saved millions of humans discriminated against and abandoned by your ilk from death? gays who gave their lives to save others in the face of injustice?
I guess the apostles were all thieves because Judas stole, yet the Lord revealed hidden truths to them. Well,HE does that, you can take up the fight with HIM.

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Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Gold2NairaCom(m): 9:56am On Jul 04, 2013
Syncan:

Yeah, gays whose stand against abortion stopped your mum from flushing you down the drain? Whose works have saved millions of humans discriminated against and abandoned by your ilk from death? gays who gave their lives to save others in the face of injustice?
I guess the apostles were all thieves because Judas stole, yet the Lord revealed hidden truths to them. Well,HE does that, you can take up the fight with HIM.

1000 likes grin grin grin
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by italo: 9:58am On Jul 04, 2013
Syncan:

Yeah, gays whose stand against abortion stopped your mum from flushing you down the drain? Whose works have saved millions of humans discriminated against and abandoned by your ilk from death? gays who gave their lives to save others in the face of injustice?
I guess the apostles were all thieves because Judas stole, yet the Lord revealed hidden truths to them. Well,HE does that, you can take up the fight with HIM.
Gold2Naira.Com:


1000 likes grin grin grin

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Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by mamsong9(m): 11:45pm On Jul 04, 2013
Syncan:

Yeah, gays whose stand against abortion stopped your mum from flushing you down the drain? Whose works have saved millions of humans discriminated against and abandoned by your ilk from death? gays who gave their lives to save others in the face of injustice?
I guess the apostles were all thieves because Judas stole, yet the Lord revealed hidden truths to them. Well,HE does that, you can take up the fight with HIM.

in the first place my mummy never made an attempt to abort me, because she is not a prostitute like yours. And pleas tell me one good thing these so call men of God did, den I wul tell u Hundred bad things dey did. Dey can't deceive my for once. Give their life to save WHO? Instead their hands is dripping with the blood of innocent people they massacre in their inquisition. How many people the popes burnt alive? Please tell that lie 2 the maket women. They are tryin to bury their bad deeds with fake up good once. Afterall their are the one abusing all the children they open orphanage for. Hmm... Saint my left foot.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Syncan(m): 6:39am On Jul 05, 2013
mamsong9:

in the first place my mummy never made an attempt to abort me, because she is not a prostitute like yours. And pleas tell me one good thing these so call men of God did, den I wul tell u Hundred bad things dey did. Dey can't deceive my for once. Give their life to save WHO? Instead their hands is dripping with the blood of innocent people they massacre in their inquisition. How many people the popes burnt alive? Please tell that lie 2 the maket women. They are tryin to bury their bad deeds with fake up good once. Afterall their are the one abusing all the children they open orphanage for. Hmm... Saint my left foot.

shhh...son of a "mummy" please keep quite,its bad manners to interrupt elders,or didn't your "mummy" teach you that?
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Gold2NairaCom(m): 1:58pm On Jul 06, 2013
mamsong9:

in the first place my mummy never made an attempt to abort me, because she is not a prostitute like yours. And pleas tell me one good thing these so call men of God did, den I wul tell u Hundred bad things dey did. Dey can't deceive my for once. Give their life to save WHO? Instead their hands is dripping with the blood of innocent people they massacre in their inquisition. How many people the popes burnt alive? Please tell that lie 2 the maket women. They are tryin to bury their bad deeds with fake up good once. Afterall their are the one abusing all the children they open orphanage for. Hmm... Saint my left foot.

Lil kid keep quiet and stop talking trash.
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by mamsong9(m): 8:51am On Aug 26, 2013
Gold2Naira.Com:


Lil kid keep quiet and stop talking trash.


Pointless human being
Re: Vatican Panel Clears Pope John Paul II For Sainthood by Nobody: 9:12am On Aug 26, 2013
Does this mean, He is alive somewhere interceding for his patrons before Judgement Day?

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