Easy1401:

u can't islamise Nigeria that's sure.

deols: What is wrong with havinh separate camps?

Good idea, JNI.

m.esther96:
what is wrong with having separate countries,continent and planet??

by the way its 'having' not 'havinh'

Arewa Warrior:

So whats your point? u dont have any my dear ignorant brother. r u saying men n women should be kept in the same quarters? if so would you approve your wife, sisters n daughters to grace such a slaughter house?

abdulkayus: I am a muslim bt i disagree wit some of d postulation of d JNI, although i agree wit some.
Atleast already in d camp, there are different hostels for male and female and a male cannot enter a female hostel and also vice versal.
And even d para military trainin, i think its ok cos even d Pakistans and some other Islamic countries female soilders do undergo dos military exercise.
Although as muslim, i dont agree wit d mixin of both sexes wen lining up for food or registration, there shld seperate line for both. And also d issue of makin or even forcin a gal and boy to be dancing together durin d man o war training.
Camp is nt a religion ground, bt everyone as an individual too shld respect his/her religion on his/her own. There is alcohol or engagin in sex bt no one force someone.
U can be bad or good in d camp. We are all matured so shld knw wat is good or bad in ur religion and hw to avoid it.
I served in Anambra state and i still come bac intact nt indulgin in any sex or watever. So, it depend on an individual.

Maclatunji, also take note dat its nt everything of d JNI u hav to accept jus cos u are a muslim. I am a muslim and a proud one also.

If dey demand for seperate camp for both sexes, dat mean seperate university, working place, shoppin mall, tranportation and other things will be demanded als, abi no be so?
Make we dey use our no 6 sometym abeg. Religion is nt madness.
And to dos bigots abusin muslims and Islam cos of dis issue, knw dat JNI did nt represent every muslim thought. So, pls watch hw u speak.
U ppl claim to be enlightened or educated sometym, bt ur characters and habits show something farrrrrrrrrr frm dat.

CIAO

Arewa Warrior:

So whats your point? u dont have any my dear ignorant brother. r u saying men n women should be kept in the same quarters? if so would you approve your wife, sisters n daughters to grace such a slaughter house?

bukatyne: I believe the corps members in these camps know what is go for them expect if they are saying Muslim females cannot think for themselves and therefore need JTI to do that for them.

Ping411:
It is,if you want to work in Nigeria

Ping411:
It is,if you want to work in Nigeria

Mustay:

Oh really? And be called 'rebels' again huh Our experiences may differ but you can recall the experience of he girl who didn't wanna wear trousers. A muslim lady has told me of how in , the soldier, in the name of exercise wanted the ladies and men to hold themselves in the arm and see who lifts the other up. When she resisted (she told the officer she couldn't do that kind of thing) the soldier called it 'disobedience' until another officer who had a higher rank told her to respect the lady's beliefs. Some camps even have the soldiers forcing people to go for socials, camp fire etc. As far as am concerned, most of the activities in the camp is balderdash.

The JNI may seem to be raising the bar but there needs to be regulation in these camps. shikena

IF it doesn't suit you, doesn't make them stupid you support them not.

bukatyne:

So if the lady and guy lift each other up, the guy will be so turned on and rape the girl at night? Oh please, is everything about sex with you? Can't you have healthy interactions with the opposite sex with thinking of sex? FYI, I have served so don't come here and bobo us like they tie men and women to do what they don't want to do. Everybody is invited for socials, fine. Can't the ladies sit down on their own? or do they lack self control that once they see a man they want sex? During camp fire night, can't the Muslim girls be together? Most socials occur towards the end of camp so the female Muslims should have made friends that can move around together.

Abeg, stop making Muslim women look like they are brainless and have no self control. I have meet some intelligent, disciplined and principled ones

And why is this always about the women?

bukatyne:

So if the lady and guy lift each other up, the guy will be so turned on and rape the girl at night? Oh please, is everything about sex with you? Can't you have healthy interactions with the opposite sex with thinking of sex? FYI, I have served so don't come here and bobo us like they tie men and women to do what they don't want to do. Everybody is invited for socials, fine. Can't the ladies sit down on their own? or do they lack self control that once they see a man they want sex? During camp fire night, can't the Muslim girls be together? Most socials occur towards the end of camp so the female Muslims should have made friends that can move around together.

bukatyn:
Abeg, stop making Muslim women look like they are brainless and have no self control. I have meet some intelligent, disciplined and principled ones

And why is this always about the women?

Sunny_bobo: Scrap NYSC now and let's see which region suffers.

sino:
Healthy interactions you say? What is healthy in a lady putting on a bum short and a see through shirt being lifted by a grown up man who is not her husband? I know you understand what temptation is and how it comes by, wouldn't it be wise to curtail avenues to it?
You served, i also served my papa land, i am a man, i stayed in the male hostel and do you know what over 80% males where talking about while back in the hostel?
I happened to be in camp during the raining season, do i need to explain what happens while on parade ground in the morning when it rains? Don't try to shy away from reality, we have gone so low, even on NL it is so obvious, do i need to remind you that male are aroused with what they see?!

If not for the cries by religious leaders(both christians and muslims) in the past which had made camp rules to be softened, all camp activities are meant to be compulsory on corps members(you can go look for a copy of the NYSC bye law).

And FYI, we have our activities in place of these social activities that are not appropriate for Muslims, instead of camp fire night, we have paradise night!

[s]Our women are smart and intelligent, that is why they chose the hijab, they understand by obeying the creator, they gain respect and favor/blessing in this world and the next.[/s]

And it's not about the women, rather its about the society, making our society better for all.

Babaji111: I wonder why any human is against chastity and decency. Muslims girls and women are guided by their religious ideologyy and it is not permissible for them to wear half-cloths or expose their unclothedness like many modern christians and pagans do. I believe any good christian will never go against decency. Past christians are not like our modern ones. LET US SEE THE PORTRAIT OF MOTHER MARY,MOTHER TERESSA and all reknown women. Are they not looking decent? Why dont we allow our muslim women to practice their religion? Any undecent behaviour is totally satanic and should not be encouraged. The dressing of our ladies in NYSC is totally against Islamic religious ideology and any muslim is advised to follow his/her religious tenets OR else fall into satanic family. May GOD show us more LIGHT to practice our religion without fear or favor.

bukatyne:

Have you ever hear of exemption?

usmandj: Man is designed to have feelings and attraction. but wen his/her ego comes up in demand it becomes out of control which ur nigerian constitution has not provide adequate solution to dat.

Do any of u border to find out d statistics of corpers who go in virgin and come out pregnant .
Do any of u want his/her sister's nude to b looked illegally, or she shld b used wit out considering marriage first like dog. No! even a womanizer will not want dat.

And to my fellow christian counterpart. Mary d mother of Jesus Christ (pbuh) chastity was protected. Recall dat she grew in d temple.Females are treasure which need to be protected; both physically and spiritual.

Pls, brodas and sisters, muslims are also citizens of dis country who need to contribute dere own quota to d development of dis country. give den a chance and reason wit dem while dey are trying dere best not make our country to b great and a beta place.

Babaji111: You are exempted from correcting me.

bukatyne:

I don't like discussions with sentiments.

bukatyne:
What muslim lady is wearing bum shorts and see through blouse in camp? What is bad in campfire night? Each Platoon dancing around the huge bon fire? Some friends even strolled hand - in -hand all through the dance period of their platoon; some even went to other platoons to gist with their friends etc.

bukatyne:
What has the boys talk got to do with muslim ladies?

bukatyne:
What happens when rain falls? Do these guys just grab random ladies or not? What about dress (position yourself) how you want to be addressed?

bukatyne:
Why can't the JNI fight for separate camps for guys and ladies and not others and muslim ladies?

Are the muslim ladies the problems in the camps?

sino: Fyi we Muslims also organize camping programs, and some camps do include male and female Muslims, there is proper segregation at these camps and during morning drills, females have their own separate place for such.

sino:
Well, we all do albeit to varying degrees and veracity


What kind of white shorts are being distributed in camp? I couldn't even put on mine cos they were like boxers. And shirts were of poor quality and frail. I don't know when you served perhaps in the eighties cos i don't understand why you are trying to deny the facts.

What is wrong with Camp fire night? A lot, drunkenness which is prohibited in the camp is at its peak, not to talk of the immorality that ensues. I do not deny the fact that some people do carry themselves with good decorum during such nights, but the vices that do occure, overshadows the good and as a wise person, i'll do away with it.

A lot, not only the Muslim ladies, but all the ladies in camp. It tells you that guys would be guys, they talk about what they see and what they can't and they boast and compete to engage in immorality. Does this not give you a hint that such dressing and interactions as seen in camps would increase the tendencies for some silly guys to commit?


I don't understand what you are trying to say, i shared what i experienced.


Well, in order not to sound as if they are imposing their religious view on everyone, the reason for their statement in regards to Muslim women. Fyi we Muslims also organize camping programs, and some camps do include male and female Muslims, there is proper segregation at these camps and during morning drills, females have their own separate place for such.
The major contention here is about the morning exercise and what goes on in it(dressing and others), if it can be reviewed then i'm sure JNI wouldn't be on air calling for separate camps.