Our Lord was born and lived under the law, the dispensation of the Mosaic law still in effect and fully in operation (Galatians 4:4); the people still being under the law. Scriptures also reveal that this law, the whole Mosaic system is a shadow of good things TO COME NOT THE REALITY NOR THE VERY IMAGE OF THE GOOD THINGS (Hebrews 10:1). Therefore, all events and practices are shadows. What is a shadow? It is a shade caused by the interception of light (a light casting a dark shade). It is an image cast by an object and representing the form of that object, not the very object itself which stand as the substance and it is a sketch, outline, adumbration.

Hence, Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that records life and events of our Lord are still UNDER THE LAW and events therein are SHADOWS according to Hebrews 10:1. Today, we begin to look beyond the SHADOWS and look at the SUBSTANCE\IMAGE\REALITY AND LIGHT that cast the SHADOWS.

to be continue

And when he (Jesus) thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. John 11:43-44

UNDER THE LAW, which is a shadow of GOOD THINGS to come; Lazarus is a representation or a foreSHADOW of a man that was DEAD but MADE ALIVE again by miraculous power. UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT, Lazarus fulfills a Christian who though was once dead (because of sin\transgression) but is now made alive by the resurrection power of Christ.

New Living Translation (©2007)
that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God's grace that you have been saved!) Ephesians 2:5

New Living Translation (©2007)
You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. Colossians 2:13.

So what do we have here? Lazarus was dead UNDER THE LAW and that's a shadow. UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT, a Christians when still in the world were dead because of their sin. How? The wages of sin is DEATH! The shocking and revealing light\truth of this event is, when Lazarus was made alive by miraculous power of Christ just as Christians were made alive by the resurrection power; LAZARUS WAS BOUND - HAND, FOOT & FACE. So also, many Christians though were SAVED (made alive) but are still bound or in bondage that Christ had to decree LOOSE HIM AND LET HIM GO!

Deliverance ministers will say it is demons that still bound a Christian. Such gospel is FALSE! Scriptures never said anything of such. UNDER THE LAW in this event, scriptures speaks clearly that it was GRAVECLOTHES AND NAPKIN that BOUND the hand,foot and face of Lazarus. What does the mean under the New Testament and under Grace,what is it that BOUND a Christians AFTER BEING MADE ALIVE or SAVED? What does the graveclothes and napkin represent to a Christian?

to be continue. . . I will be back in the morrow to finish!

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Welcome back false teacher goshen, I missed your banter here on nairaland, and I was beginning to get worried, but welcome back. Hope u have new revealing teachings for us?

Here they come again. Agents of darkness. Keeping Africa backwards with books written by cavemen.

bolaino: Welcome back false teacher goshen, I missed your banter here on nairaland, and I was beginning to get worried, but welcome back. Hope u have new revealing teachings for us?

Haaaa. Na so u dey take welcome person bros?

@Goshen360,
Its been a long time o. What happened? Hope all is well.

@OP,
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Na wa o! What is it with all the funny comments?

Na so una dey do for hia?

The point Mr Goshen is making in this thread is an important one. When we were saved, we were called out of the grave, same way Lazarus was. But... same way Lazarus remained bound with grave cloths so are we. We are alive in Christ but still bound with grave cloths mentality that requires renewal.

This leads us to the high point of scriptures that says:

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God

God requires that our minds be renewed. At the risk of going ahead of Mr Goshen, I will stop here but permit me to add this: the greatest gift of God to the church are Pastors and Teachers. I side with those who say that the Ephesians 4:11 scripture actually stated that God has given the church four ministry gifts not five, since a Pastor must be a teacher and a pastor that cannot teach is not worth being one.

The church must be taught the gospel of God's grace and we must have ministers that rightly divide the word of truth. That is the only way God's people will be strengthened by grace in their hearts (Hebrew 13) to live lives full of faith and good works that glorify God. It is grace the heart needs to live a holy life, not rules and regulation - I thought to add this as information for neo--judaizers that are replete on this forum.

Hbr 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For [it is] a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

Goshen360:

Our Lord was born and lived under the law, the dispensation of the Mosaic law still in effect and fully in operation (Galatians 4:4); the people still being under the law. Scriptures also reveal that this law, the whole Mosaic system is a shadow of good things TO COME NOT THE REALITY NOR THE VERY IMAGE OF THE GOOD THINGS (Hebrews 10:1). Therefore, all events and practices are shadows. What is a shadow? It is a shade caused by the interception of light (a light casting a dark shade). It is an image cast by an object and representing the form of that object, not the very object itself which stand as the substance and it is a sketch, outline, adumbration.

Hence, Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that records life and events of our Lord are still UNDER THE LAW and events therein are SHADOWS according to Hebrews 10:1. Today, we begin to look beyond the SHADOWS and look at the SUBSTANCE\IMAGE\REALITY AND LIGHT that cast the SHADOWS.

to be continue

The chief antinomian of NL is back with a bang. You are welcome back after being away for a season.

Goshen360:
Hence, Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that records life and events of our Lord are still UNDER THE LAW and events therein are SHADOWS according to Hebrews 10:1. Today, we begin to look beyond the SHADOWS and look at the SUBSTANCE\IMAGE\REALITY AND LIGHT that cast the SHADOWS.

This is a major insight in true christian doctrine. The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are not really the Gospels. They give an account of the fulfillment of the Laws of Moses; ie: the life, works and death of Jesus Christ. The Gospel started from the Pentecost, Thus the message is different from that preached by the old testament and by Jesus himself. The old testament, the books of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John serve as witnesses to that which is to come, the true Gospel of Jesus Christ as preached by the Apostles, not the Shadows as was preached by christ before his death. Jesus would not have spoken in parables if not that his intention was to hide the messages that were to be revealed after his death; This is why they are shadows,like the Laws of Moses.

OLAADEGBU:

The chief antinomian of NL is back with a bang. You are welcome back after being away for a season.

Define antinomianism.

^^^^ thank you

Pastor Kun: Welcome back Goshen

Thank you brother. Thank for watching my back.

Tgirl4real: Na wa o! What is it with all the funny comments?

Na so una dey do for hia?

Abeg no mind them. I don't pay attention no more to such statement!

DrummaBoy:

The point Mr Goshen is making in this thread is an important one. When we were saved, we were called out of the grave, same way Lazarus was. But... same way Lazarus remained bound with grave cloths so are we. We are alive in Christ but still bound with grave cloths mentality that requires renewal.

Exactly my beloved brother. You are in the Spirit and actually got the message but what is the actually representation of the graveclothes and napkins that BOUND Lazarus to the new testament believer. I will follow up in the concluding part now!

OLAADEGBU:

The chief antinomian of NL is back with a bang. You are welcome back after being away for a season.

Because it is not your PHD pastor that wrote this article and not meant for you to copy and paste? If I'm antinomian or whatever that means, isn't that better than you chief JUDAIZER who is an anti-CHRIST?

. . . concluding series!

What is it that scriptures says BOUND a new testament believers?

New International Version (©2011)
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Weymouth New Testament
But seeing that we have died to that which once held us in bondage, the Law has now no hold over us, so that we render a service which, instead of being old and formal, is new and spiritual.

Romans 7:6

Scripture speaks expressly that a new testament believer going back to the mosaic system is going back unto bondage because when we DEAD in our sins, we lived under bondage and being bound by the graveclothes and napkins. Now, that we are made alive, Christ don't want the graveclothes still binding us and hence he declared our freedom as a foreSHADOW to Lazarus: Loose Him and Let Him Go! Hence, observing the laws, rules, regulations, sacrifices, ordinances etc is being BOUND BY THE REPRESENTATION OF GRAVECLOTHS AND NAPKINS TO A NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN.

Today, many Christians and Christian leaders bring rules, regulations and ordinances of the Moses system into Christianity and call it gospel, bring people into BOUNDage (keeping the under the bondage of the law for ages). Since the law is a type and shadows and these things are hidden truth that was revealed to Paul the Apostle by Christ. If there were truth in themselves, there will be nothing more to be revealed but because they were hidden as SHADOW(a cast of a light,and not the light itself; a cast of truth but not the truth in itself etc).

Legalism and legalist preachers brings rules, regulations, Laws of Moses and BIND it on new testament believers such as no wearing earrings, rules on what to and not to wear, who to and not associate with if they are same church members, no wearing of trousers, no make-ups, not observing the Sabbath day, not looking nice on your wedding day etc. All these and the likes are what BINDS a believer and no longer are they controlled by the Spirit of God.

to be continue

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Galatians 5:1

What is the yoke of BOUNDage (a bound for ages) in this context of the book of Galatians? It is the obedience to the Mosaic system rather than obedience to the NEW FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS FINISHED WORKS. The graveclothes and napkins bounded the hands,legs and face of Lazurus. He cannot walk in the light,truth neither can he see the light. In the same manner, many new testament believers are bound by the laws of Moses, rules, regulations, ordinances, legalism etc. and they cannot walk in truth(legs bound), they can't lift up holy hands in worship to the new Kings of glory (hands bound) and they can't see the light of the glorious gospel in the new testament(face\eyes bound). They are saved by Grace but want to keep the grace by keeping rules, laws of Moses and ordinances etc. Only TRUTH can set free and Christ is the truth!

Since this event took place under the shadows (The Law), what then is the substance that unveils the truth! Scripture says, FAITH is the SUBSTANCE. Hebrews 11:1. So then, faith in what? Faith in the finished works of the cross of Christ. The Cross terminates every works of the law and religion of the law bring freedom in Christ and defeated all principalities over a Christian. Judaizer Christians think that 'faith in the finished works of Christ IS TOO SIMPLE and that obedience to certain rules, certain portion of Mosaic system must be 'added' to faith in the finished works of Christ. There is no such gospel in the new testament! Presenting such gospel is keep in BOUNDage we that had been MADE ALIVE IN CHRIST BY THE RESURRECTED POWER OF CHRIST. Celebrate your freedom in Christ, only don't use your freedom or liberty as a license for ungodliness and satisfying the demands of the flesh.

^EXCELLENT Goshen!

Let me help Olaadegbu define antinomianism. A cursory look on this term in wikipedia shows that antinomianism means 'against law'. It was first coined by Martin Luther to describe a certain group of renegades who were bent on taking the reformation efforts embarked by Luther and the other reformers to ends that they did not mean to. Because the whole of the reformation where based on the writings of Paul, St. Augustine, Erasmus and some early reformed thinkers, the liberty Paul preached was interpreted by them to be licenciousness.

So while Luther wrote tracts against Roman Catholic practices, he also wrote a tract called Against the Antinmonians. Luther's position is that God has called us to freedom but we must not use it as licence to sin.

Over the years this has been the Challenge th people who believe the Pauline gospel: the danger to fall into antinomianism. But Paul himself balanced his epistles with the latter part filled with practical astonishments.

And just before Olaadegbu and his fellow judaizers begin to grin from ear to ear, note that the fact that Luther spoke against antinmonians does not mean he was legalistic. Luther taught justification by faith and insisted the word 'alone' must be added to Romans 1:16;17, because the German language demanded it.

Luther taught against legalism. It is believed that the church of Rome still hoped he will return but when he married, the nail was fixed on the coffin of his return.

Luther taught against tithing, as well as Calvin, Spurgeon and a host of other renowned gospel teachers.

Justification by faith means simply our salvation is sealed in God: nothing we can ever do or not do can change that status. Just as Adam sinned and we became sinners without doing anything ourselves, so also Jesus died and rose that we may be righteous without anything we can do to add to it.

This is no basis for licenciousness. Because he that is justified must show it by his works according to James.

Oga Gosh, long time o..

Goshen360:

Because it is not your PHD pastor that wrote this article and not meant for you to copy and paste? If I'm antinomian or whatever that means, isn't that better than you chief JUDAIZER who is an anti-CHRIST?

Are you also jealous of his Ph. D? Bad belle no good oh. How far have you gone about your mission of the pulling down of the 10 commandment monuments in the US since you now got your green card? This is a fast track for the citizenship you crave for. Another fast track is to declare that you are gay and become an obamaniac.

Folks have sold their souls and birthrights just for a piece of bread (Green cards/citizenship) like Esau and Cain did. Below is a video-clip of what the POTUS really believes about our Lord Jesus and the Laws of God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w

Uploaded on 12 Oct 2008

Obama Mocks and Attacks Jesus Christ And The Bible.

A top U.S. evangelical leader is accusing Sen. Barack Obama of deliberately distorting the Bible and taking a "fruitcake interpretation" of the U.S. Constitution. In comments aired on his radio show, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson criticized the Democratic presidential nominee for comments he made in a June 2006 speech to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal. In the speech, Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible, noting that some passages suggest slavery is permissible and eating shellfish is disgraceful. "Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?" Obama asked in the speech. "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount? "So before we get carried away, let's read our Bible now," Obama said, to cheers. "Folks haven't been reading their Bible." He also called Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application."

Dobson said Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament. "I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology," Dobson said, adding that Obama is "dragging biblical understanding through the gutter." Dobson said the suggestion is an attempt to lead by the "lowest common denominator of morality." "Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" he asked. "What he's trying to say here is, unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe." "What the senator is saying there, in essence, is that 'I can't seek to pass legislation, for example, that bans partial-birth abortion, because there are people in the culture who don't see that as a moral issue,' " Dobson said. "And if I can't get everyone to agree with me, than it is undemocratic to try to pass legislation that I find offensive to the Scripture.

Now, that is a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution." In a stunning display of ignorance- and in a speech you will NOT see in the mainstream media, because even they apparently understand how ignorant Obama was on the issue, Obama exposes his disdain for Christians, and exposes his disdain for the word of God, by taking the typical, petty, ignorant position, that the bible advocated slavery and the stoning of children, apparently implying that Christians should live their faith by reinstating customs that were obviously secular laws that were in place in a time long ago. Obama not so subtly implied that Christians are hypocrites because they don't agree to put themselves back under the laws of Moses that are no longer relevant to Christians today! The laws of Moses were a Jewish-only set of laws.

Barack Obama claims he found the Lord, whatever that means to him, but his obvious contempt for Gods word exposes the fact that Christ is not the one in control of his heart. His speech was a blatant misrepresentation of Christianity, and it was a speech whose intent was to malign and denigrate Christians, and to denigrate this great nation of ours. Stoning children for blatant disrespect of parents and of God, was a Jewish-only commandment meant to purge evil from among Gods elected people. Nowhere in the bible does God command anyone other than His own elected people, the Jews, to purge evil in such a manner. Barack Obama however is apparently too ignorant of biblical truth to realize this fact, and apparently he feels that he is big enough to call Gods commandments toward the Jews into question?

Obama is also apparently too ignorant of Gods word to understand that Christians today are not under the law of Moses, and that many edicts in the bible were meant to tell the people that they needed to obey ALL laws, even the secular laws which included laws that allowed slaves, and that the Jews were not just bound to the laws that God instated, but also to the cultural laws at that time. Obama may not like that- because it completely refutes his petty attempt at maligning God, God's word, Christians and this great nation of ours. Obama may claim to be a Christian, and he may even succeed in fooling a couple of people, but to those who know better, we see very clearly that his words betray what he claims his heart stands for.

This is what the antinomians are all about.

DrummaBoy: And just before Olaadegbu and his fellow judaizers begin to grin from ear to ear, note that the fact that Luther spoke against antinmonians does not mean he was legalistic. Luther taught justification by faith and insisted the word 'alone' must be added to Romans 1:16;17, because the German language demanded it.

Luther taught against legalism. It is believed that the church of Rome still hoped he will return but when he married, the nail was fixed on the coffin of his return.

Luther taught against tithing, as well as Calvin, Spurgeon and a host of other renowned gospel teachers.

Justification by faith means simply our salvation is sealed in God: nothing we can ever do or not do can change that status. Just as Adam sinned and we became sinners without doing anything ourselves, so also Jesus died and rose that we may be righteous without anything we can do to add to it.

This is no basis for licenciousness. Because he that is justified must show it by his works according to James.

I will be very glad if you could show me the article where Luther and Charles Spurgoen spoke against the tithes.Thanks in anticipation.

DrummaBoy: And just before Olaadegbu and his fellow judaizers begin to grin from ear to ear, note that the fact that Luther spoke against antinmonians does not mean he was legalistic. Luther taught justification by faith and insisted the word 'alone' must be added to Romans 1:16;17, because the German language demanded it.

Luther taught against legalism. It is believed that the church of Rome still hoped he will return but when he married, the nail was fixed on the coffin of his return.

Luther taught against tithing, as well as Calvin, Spurgeon and a host of other renowned gospel teachers.

Justification by faith means simply our salvation is sealed in God: nothing we can ever do or not do can change that status. Just as Adam sinned and we became sinners without doing anything ourselves, so also Jesus died and rose that we may be righteous without anything we can do to add to it.

This is no basis for licenciousness. Because he that is justified must show it by his works according to James.

I will be very glad if you could show me the article where Luther and Charles Spurgeon spoke against the tithes.Thanks in anticipation.

@ oladegbu

How many of your kids have you stoned to death so far.. Does you bible start and end in the old testament?

[quote
author=Bidam]I will be very glad if you could show me the article where
Luther and Charles Spurgoen spoke against the tithes.Thanks in
anticipation.[/quote]


If I give you the reference you request for, O Bidam, will it make U change your position on the tithe?

This is not a tithe thread. I made reference to tithe only as I discussed antinomianism. But if U are still intent on knowing, Mr Russel, who debated Rev. Ewuosho, on tithing, said it in his opening remarks of the debate to show that many renowned men of God of old rejected the tithing doctrine as espoused today.

But we all know men's words are not our final authority but scripture. But God still uses men.

If, however, O most blessed Bidam, U think those men didn't oppose tithing, can U pls provide us a link or quote anywhere that support that position *return to sender*.

DrummaBoy:


If I give you the reference you request for, O Bidam, will it make U change your position on the tithe?

This is not a tithe thread. I made reference to tithe only as I discussed antinomianism. But if U are still intent on knowing, Mr Russel, who debated Rev. Ewuosho, on tithing, said it in his opening remarks of the debate to show that many renowned men of God of old rejected the tithing doctrine as espoused today.

But we all know men's words are not our final authority but scripture. But God still uses men.

If, however, O most blessed Bidam, U think those men didn't oppose tithing, can U pls provide us a link or quote anywhere that support that position *return to sender*.

If you can't show me,then you have no case sire.

OLAADEGBU: Folks have sold their souls and birthrights just for a piece of bread (Green cards/citizenship) like Esau and Cain did. Below is a video-clip of what the POTUS really believes about our Lord Jesus and the Laws of God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w



This is what the antinomians are all about.

So Goshen starts a beautiful thread and you have to bring your dark aura to bear and derail a wonderful discussion. It is people like you who put others off from the gospel and a main reason why thousands are leaving your closed organization for freedom.

Bidam: I will be very glad if you could show me the article where Luther and Charles Spurgoen spoke against the tithes.Thanks in anticipation.

The question is , what does the bible say of a tithe as is preached in today's towers of babel.

I am surprised that you are so hell bent on staying with this FRAUD , though you know that the formula has not worked for 80% of your sheeple, for while unbelievers are getting richer through hard work you are encouraging laziness in the body of Christ.