modicum: I'm living in a 2 bedroom apartment with my landlord who is a Muslim .i've got a girlfriend who visits me once in a week and my landlord is well aware of this. To my surprise, my landlord called me on Saturday that I should tell my girlfriend not to visit me on Ramadan period because my girlfriend visiting my own room is a SIN for him because he's fasting.
Note: I'm a free thinker and not fasting with him. 2. We're not related and not sharing the same room. 3. My tenancy agreement doesn't indicate any Ramadan clause. 4. I've got only one girlfriend visiting this apartment . 5. My landlord has got 2 wives living in separate apartment. 6. I've been living in this apartment for 9months and I introduced my girlfriend to my landlord when I moved in. 7. Anytime my girlfriend visits, she come straight into my room meaning she hardly meet my landlord .8. My girlfriend is very clean and anytime she uses the toilet, she always keep it clean and tidy.
My question is; how does my visiting girlfriend affect my landlord's fasting??

jam04: Does she sleep over when she comes? If yes, probably the moaning/noise from the 'bed-action' gets to your landlord.
You should call your landlord and ask him to specifically tell you his reasons, so that you can adjust.

tpia@:
Maybe he doesnt want to be tempted by your girlfriend.

Either that or he doesnt want to hear you doing stuff.

tpia@:
Well, i dont see what the personal reason could entail beyond his not wanting to be distracted during fasting, all the looking once and twice thing.

deols: I thought OP is a Muslim and the landlord is trying to help him.

BetaThings: Muslims typically are more conscious during Ramadan
It is a sin to abet sins
Providing accommodation for Zina is a sin
It does not bother him in other months, but now he sees himself as needing to avoid all sins (direct and indirect)
As sins committed now weigh more
Many muslims wil npt feed their guests in the afternoon of Ramadan; don't bother to ask them for water
I will not give either

I am just explaining, not trying to say I am sinless
Indeed I need to seek forgiveness more than 1 million time daily

BetaThings: Muslims typically are more conscious during Ramadan
It is a sin to abet sins
Providing accommodation for Zina is a sin
It does not bother him in other months, but now he sees himself as needing to avoid all sins (direct and indirect)
As sins committed now weigh more
Many muslims wil npt feed their guests in the afternoon of Ramadan; don't bother to ask them for water
I will not give either

I am just explaining, not trying to say I am sinless
Indeed I need to seek forgiveness more than 1 million time daily

BetaThings: Muslims typically are more conscious during Ramadan
It is a sin to abet sins
Providing accommodation for Zina is a sin
It does not bother him in other months, but now he sees himself as needing to avoid all sins (direct and indirect)
As sins committed now weigh more
Many muslims wil npt feed their guests in the afternoon of Ramadan; don't bother to ask them for water
I will not give either

I am just explaining, not trying to say I am sinless
Indeed I need to seek forgiveness more than 1 million time daily

BetaThings: Muslims typically are more conscious during Ramadan
It is a sin to abet sins
Providing accommodation for Zina is a sin
It does not bother him in other months, but now he sees himself as needing to avoid all sins (direct and indirect)
As sins committed now weigh more
Many muslims wil npt feed their guests in the afternoon of Ramadan; don't bother to ask them for water
I will not give either

I am just explaining, not trying to say I am sinless
Indeed I need to seek forgiveness more than 1 million time daily

LagosShia:

so where does LAKUM DINUKUM WALIYA DEEN ( "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."-verse 109:6) come in?

if the man is paying his rent,then it is his money he is using for zina.you have the choice not to renew his rent,or to refund his rent and ask him to leave.you cannot force non-muslims who do not believe in Islam as we do to fast.there is no harm in providing food (in kindness) to someone not fasting during Ramadan.fanaticism should not be encouraged and justified under the banner of Islam through ignorance.

deols:

He paid his rent. I don't think there's much the landlord can do.

deols:
About giving people water in ramadan, do put in mind that Islam allows some people NOT to.fast. Would you deny them water as well?

tbaba1234:


Incorrect bro,

If you can feed the poor in Ramadan then you should.
Even in an Islamic State, the non-muslims are governed by their own law. Hence the christians/jews can produce alcohol or rear swine for their communities. That happened in the time of the ottomans. Ofcourse, public consumption is forbidden.

tbaba1234:
As long as they do not commit crime in the public glare, you can't accuse them of Zina. Where are your four witnesses?? Are you or the landlord making an assumption? You know that kind of talk is not for public discussion, that is why four witnesses are required before making an accusation. remember the punishment of one who makes an accusation without witnesses.

The landlord should take other precautions.

BetaThings:

I am feeding the poor sahur and iftar. I am not giving them lunch
This matter is not straightforward
Look at the position here. Most scholars forbid it
http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/49694

I am not talking about zina of full intimacy in this case There is the issue of abetting people being in seclusion, zina of the eyes etc My bro, we know that behind closed doors anything can happen. I can walk away from a brothel but not from my flat and all the signs and audio evidence If the flats are separate, perhaps he can close his eyes

tbaba1234:
But let's leave fiqh discussion to scholars.

tbaba1234:
Like I said, the landlord has to take other precautions for himself and his family. He has no case here. He could have included it in the contract or only rented his place to married people.

Did he just realise in Ramadan? What happens after Ramadan? Is that hypocrisy?

What happens within closed doors can not be legislated against.

BTW lest the Christians attribute drop in crime rates to the idea that muslims constitute the bulk of criminals
we should remember that crime rate rises close to Christmas

tpia@:


a cycle.