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Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 6:27pm On Jul 22, 2013
Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed[b] HIS SEAL OF APPROVAL."
[/b]John 6:27

Here the Bible says Jesus is the SEAL of prophets

"He then began to speak to them in parables: ‘A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed. HE HAD ONE LEFT TO SEND, A SON, WHOM HE LOVED. He sent him LAST OF ALL, saying, "They will respect my son." But the tenants said to one another, "THIS IS THE HEIR. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours." So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.’"
Mark 12:1-8

Jesus likened Himself to the last of God's prophet.

Therefore anyone including Muhammad who claims to be a prophet after Jesus is false. He must be one of the false prophets Jesus talked about.

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Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Masta01(m): 7:35pm On Jul 22, 2013
this is the dumbest post have seen on nairaland.

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Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Nobody: 8:05pm On Jul 22, 2013
the seal of the prophets of God exclusively for the bloodline of Jacob [as to all of them]

seal of prophet to all mankind is Muhammad [sa].


when you read the Quran, you see that God told him [sa] to tell all mankind, regardless of ethnicity that he is the prophet to them from their Lord.

This alone is a proof of the universality of the message and prophetic office that God gave Holy Prophet [sa] to shoulder.

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Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 8:06pm On Jul 22, 2013
Masta01: this is the dumbest post have seen on nairaland.

It must be the dumbest to you because it proves Muhammad is a false prophet.

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Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Nobody: 8:29pm On Jul 22, 2013
there is no evidence that Jesus is the last prophet to mankind, except to the children of Israel, exclusively. There is no evidence that the person you say is a muslim is. in both cases, you are dealing with assumption. in case of Prophet Jesus [as] the bible proves that you are wrong and he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

look above and read the Quran, Muhammad [sa] is for all nations and ethnics of the world.

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Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 8:36pm On Jul 22, 2013
RoyPCain: the seal of the prophets of God exclusively for the bloodline of Jacob [as to all of them]

seal of prophet to all mankind is Muhammad [sa].


when you read the Quran, you see that God told him [sa] to tell all mankind, regardless of ethnicity that he is the prophet to them from their Lord.

This alone is a proof of the universality of the message and prophetic office that God gave Holy Prophet [sa] to shoulder.

I wonder why you still refer to Muhammad as a holy prophet despite his unholy deed, which you are aware of. Why do you choose to deceive yourself?

How would a sinner, a corrupt one at that like Muhammad be Holy God's prophet?

Tell me, which other prophet is as sinful and corrupt as Muhammad? How does a known sinner qualify
as God's prophet? The best such a man can be is a prophet of allah, an arabian god. It is only with gods sins are no offences.

I know you will leave these vital points and dwell on the unnecessary, unless you have changed from the RoyPCain I used to know.
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Masta01(m): 12:05am On Jul 24, 2013
truthman2012:

It must be the dumbest to you because it proves Muhammad is a false prophet.

don't be brainwashed dude
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 8:36am On Jul 24, 2013
Masta01:
don't be brainwashed dude

You are inexcusable, oh man! You reject Jesus who is sinless and follow Muhammad who has records of various sins, including se.xual sins, lying, killings etc. Except for spiritual manipulations, how can a person in his normal senses consider such a person as a prophet of God?

In our today's world, if you see a person lying, womanizing, killing and preaching, would you call him a man of God? Stop deceiving your personal self.

God did not promise any prophet from the race of Ishmael. God's covenant was with only Isaac. Do you know Ishmael was cast out from Abraham's family? How would God appoint a prophet from the line of a cast out? It is like making an 'ozu' a king in Iboland.
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Masta01(m): 9:25am On Jul 24, 2013
truthman2012:

You are inexcusable, oh man! You reject Jesus who is sinless and follow Muhammad who has records of various sins, including se.xual sins, lying, killings etc. Except for spiritual manipulations, how can a person in his normal senses consider such a person as a prophet of God?

In our today's world, if you see a person lying, womanizing, killing and preaching, would you call him a man of God? Stop deceiving your personal self.

God did not promise any prophet from the race of Ishmael. God's covenant was with only Isaac. Do you know Ishmael was cast out from Abraham's family? How would God appoint a prophet from the line of a cast out? It is like making an 'ozu' a king in Iboland.

i pray god forgive your sins
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 1:29pm On Jul 24, 2013
Masta01:
i pray god forgive your sins

What sin? Which sin?
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Masta01(m): 1:34pm On Jul 24, 2013
for not believing in his word
truthman2012:

What sin? Which sin?
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jul 24, 2013
@truthman2012;
by truthman2012: 8:36pm On Jul 22
I wonder why you still refer to Muhammad as a holy prophet despite his unholy deed, which you are aware of. Why do you choose to deceive yourself?

How would a sinner, a corrupt one at that like Muhammad be Holy God's prophet?

Tell me, which other prophet is as sinful and corrupt as Muhammad? How does a known sinner qualify
as God's prophet? The best such a man can be is a prophet of Allah, an arabian god. It is only with gods sins are no offences.

I know you will leave these vital points and dwell on the unnecessary, unless you have changed from the RoyPCain I used to know.

There are holy men who are not even prophets [as]. Every prophet [as] is a holy man. while Jesus [as] is honored as word of God, no prophet [as] is not word of God. So is every creation. You will certainly die and when you get to the other side and see Muhammad [sa] is truly the holy prophet [sa], ask God and argue as hard as you can. While on earth, you said Noah was known by his son as in sexu.al sense in his last days, drunk. You said Lot was known by his daughters also as in sex.ual sense in his last days, drunk. Neither of them or other countless bible holy men who you have reason to consider them less than Jesus [as] could be possible that Muhammad [sa] is less than in great quality.



You will not deny that God chose them, but you have problem with Muhammad [sa] who did things according to the Commandment of God. Noah was told that his blood son was not his son because of the evil of the son, being one of the disbelievers. You dont mind rude speech of Jesus to his elders, his nations, his disciples, indeed his mother. You dont mind Jesus in his spirit of Jihad, fighting old people who consumed interest in their currency trade. You dont mind the Jihad speech of Jesus calling people fools, dogs or comparing them to dogs, lambasting his disciples as brainless faithless or have just the monimal. You dont see the preaching of Jihad by Jesus who says the king has the right to kill uncooperative subjects, in parable which may actually be himself is the king since he later asked that people be armed to the teeth with swords and whatever is in the bag. You dont see anything Jihadist in his returning to kill his own, the jewish nations, while Muhammad forgave the makkans and people of taif who could have been wiped off and he would have been justified and had reasons to do so.



Thank God that your morality is neither the yardstick that Yahweh or Jehovah measures who is a prophet or who they came to the world as, according to your believe that Jesus was Him in heaven and is as man! You dont see anything wrong in a child getting his mother pregnant. You dont see sny evil in a father not marrying the mother of his son. Everything is okay by you and no evil done as long as Muhammad [sa] is not the one doing it, because if it good or normal and moral lesson can be drawn from it. it is evil as long as Muhammad [sa] has a hand in it!

And the arabs are the best that came as a group from the loin of Abraham [as] because with less resources of spiritual opportunity, they are better than their children of israel cousins who scores of prophets exclusively came for, one after the other and when it ended with Jesus [sa] of the Quran, even your Bible left them as 'disbelievers, stiffed neck people". Arabs didnt kill any prophet [as] but honored Muhammad [sa], but you even say that Jesus was killed by the jews. Was Jesus killed for the sins of all of us? No. Jesus was sent to the jews and if you know the jews well enough, they will not include you in anything good. Definitely, not where you will be equal to them since they still call you gentile meaning less than human. Although, Jesus was not killed, if he was, the jews would have for their own benefits, alone. Yahweh/Jehovah Who sent him to the Jews only would not be including you in it and after-the-fact is a failed attempt to rectify lies.



Allah is proper Name, while Yahweh is a description because the people forgot the Name and or scared to say it. Yet they say they are the chosen. Jehovah is latinized and not a proper name. When those you imitate are wrong, you are definitely wrong.




by truthman2012: 8:36am

Masta01:
don't be brainwashed dude


You are inexcusable, oh man! You reject Jesus who is sinless and follow Muhammad who has records of various sins, including se.xual sins, lying, killings etc. Except for spiritual manipulations, how can a person in his normal senses consider such a person as a prophet of God?

In our today's world, if you see a person lying, womanizing, killing and preaching, would you call him a man of God? Stop deceiving your personal self.

God did not promise any prophet from the race of Ishmael. God's covenant was with only Isaac. Do you know Ishmael was cast out from Abraham's family? How would God appoint a prophet from the line of a cast out? It is like making an 'ozu' a king in Iboland.

a man rejecting Jesus of the Bible is on the same side with Yahweh, Elah because He rejected Jesus, too. Jesus prayed, God rejected it according to what is written in the bible. Jesus is faultless. The Quran does not record any fault for him. Jesus of the Bible could not be assumed sinless if insulting your mother, your community, your followers, killing tree, saying what never came true, blaming God are sins. One have to be in denial to think otherwise.



as for Ishmael, God Himself named him and he was the only son for 14 years until his step mother got jealous according to the bible. God didnt make covenant with anyone but Abraham [as] which benfits all his bloodline as long as he is on guidance, not including those who went astray. Now tell me what evil you can count on Ishmael and remember no evil prophesy of in the bible touched him. You are not a father is the only possible reason you can say a father will not pray for his 'obedient' son and continuously petition God to protect him. God is not evil so He could not have cast out innocent soul, not a child and definitely not an one with "EL" as in Ishmael in his name. The Bible contains a whole heap of what is not from God so the bible is not the measure of true revelation as a whole. Some revelation, yes, but complete revelation from leaf to leaf, no.


The proof that Ishmael was not cast out or forgotten by Abraham instead maintained good father and son relationship is from the Bible itself where the opposite is said, hence proving itself as not truly a book that contain only revelation in it. Ishmael was part of those who buried Abraham. A cast out will not know the way back home and definitely will not be allowed back in, not in such an event where only true blood can be there. This may be the reason Esau was not part of the people, assuming that Jacob was there. When the bible checkmates itself on such a matter, you can only accept what it says if there is acceptance by the Guard over Revelation, The Criterion being the Quran. When God says I will bless Ishmael, and the Bible says he will be an ass, there is a problem. No one whose name has God's name in the Bible is an ass, so Ishmael was blessed unless you say the Bible God lied.

You are not bold enough to say such a thing because you will have to explain how the blessed Isaac became blind and his wife Rebecca was an evil woman against Esau and Jacob was a deception and a schemer. You see that blessing is real instead of on the lips by the trouble free life that Ishmael lived, remembered by his nephew, Jacob so much so that he told his children of Joseph generation. Muhammad [sa] says he is from Ibrahim [as] and the answer of his prayer. Read the Quran and there is "the station of Ibrahim" in Kaaba to tell you the everlasting love of Ibrahim for his son Ismail [as] who forbears, patient.


An Osu man can be the king maker in Igbo land. Though tradition dies hard, the fact on the table weakens tradition. The king maker is greater than the king. Ask GEJ who is the Nigerian President. Ask Buhari who jailed those who made independence possible. Ask Babangida who threw a billionaire in jail. Ask Gowon, a tiv man who rattled the whole of nigeria. I could have asked you to ask Abacha, but you are here and he is not. God elevates who He will and the prideful are easily shamed. In Abeokuta of today, Alake is only for Ake. The Olowu of the Owu where Obasanjo comes from dont bow to Alake. People are better and they destroy unacceptable status. Today, pen is mightier than sword. Today, the Promise of God is being fulfilled; the muslims are fasting for God in obedience to Him, seeking His Mercy. So are fasting 20 hours give and take a few hours.
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 4:06pm On Jul 24, 2013
RoyPCain: @truthman2012;

There are holy men who are not even prophets [as]. Every prophet [as] is a holy man. while Jesus [as] is honored as word of God, no prophet [as] is not word of God. So is every creation. You will certainly die and when you get to the other side and see Muhammad [sa] is truly the holy prophet [sa], ask God and argue as hard as you can. While on earth, you said Noah was known by his son as in sexu.al sense in his last days, drunk. You said Lot was known by his daughters also as in sex.ual sense in his last days, drunk. Neither of them or other countless bible holy men who you have reason to consider them less than Jesus [as] could be possible that Muhammad [sa] is less than in great quality.



You will not deny that God chose them, but you have problem with Muhammad [sa] who did things according to the Commandment of God. Noah was told that his blood son was not his son because of the evil of the son, being one of the disbelievers. You dont mind rude speech of Jesus to his elders, his nations, his disciples, indeed his mother. You dont mind Jesus in his spirit of Jihad, fighting old people who consumed interest in their currency trade. You dont mind the Jihad speech of Jesus calling people fools, dogs or comparing them to dogs, lambasting his disciples as brainless faithless or have just the monimal. You dont see the preaching of Jihad by Jesus who says the king has the right to kill uncooperative subjects, in parable which may actually be himself is the king since he later asked that people be armed to the teeth with swords and whatever is in the bag. You dont see anything Jihadist in his returning to kill his own, the jewish nations, while Muhammad forgave the makkans and people of taif who could have been wiped off and he would have been justified and had reasons to do so.



Thank God that your morality is neither the yardstick that Yahweh or Jehovah measures who is a prophet or who they came to the world as, according to your believe that Jesus was Him in heaven and is as man! You dont see anything wrong in a child getting his mother pregnant. You dont see sny evil in a father not marrying the mother of his son. Everything is okay by you and no evil done as long as Muhammad [sa] is not the one doing it, because if it good or normal and moral lesson can be drawn from it. it is evil as long as Muhammad [sa] has a hand in it!

And the arabs are the best that came as a group from the loin of Abraham [as] because with less resources of spiritual opportunity, they are better than their children of israel cousins who scores of prophets exclusively came for, one after the other and when it ended with Jesus [sa] of the Quran, even your Bible left them as 'disbelievers, stiffed neck people". Arabs didnt kill any prophet [as] but honored Muhammad [sa], but you even say that Jesus was killed by the jews. Was Jesus killed for the sins of all of us? No. Jesus was sent to the jews and if you know the jews well enough, they will not include you in anything good. Definitely, not where you will be equal to them since they still call you gentile meaning less than human. Although, Jesus was not killed, if he was, the jews would have for their own benefits, alone. Yahweh/Jehovah Who sent him to the Jews only would not be including you in it and after-the-fact is a failed attempt to rectify lies.



Allah is proper Name, while Yahweh is a description because the people forgot the Name and or scared to say it. Yet they say they are the chosen. Jehovah is latinized and not a proper name. When those you imitate are wrong, you are definitely wrong.




a man rejecting Jesus of the Bible is on the same side with Yahweh, Elah because He rejected Jesus, too. Jesus prayed, God rejected it according to what is written in the bible. Jesus is faultless. The Quran does not record any fault for him. Jesus of the Bible could not be assumed sinless if insulting your mother, your community, your followers, killing tree, saying what never came true, blaming God are sins. One have to be in denial to think otherwise.



as for Ishmael, God Himself named him and he was the only son for 14 years until his step mother got jealous according to the bible. God didnt make covenant with anyone but Abraham [as] which benfits all his bloodline as long as he is on guidance, not including those who went astray. Now tell me what evil you can count on Ishmael and remember no evil prophesy of in the bible touched him. You are not a father is the only possible reason you can say a father will not pray for his 'obedient' son and continuously petition God to protect him. God is not evil so He could not have cast out innocent soul, not a child and definitely not an one with "EL" as in Ishmael in his name. The Bible contains a whole heap of what is not from God so the bible is not the measure of true revelation as a whole. Some revelation, yes, but complete revelation from leaf to leaf, no.


The proof that Ishmael was not cast out or forgotten by Abraham instead maintained good father and son relationship is from the Bible itself where the opposite is said, hence proving itself as not truly a book that contain only revelation in it. Ishmael was part of those who buried Abraham. A cast out will not know the way back home and definitely will not be allowed back in, not in such an event where only true blood can be there. This may be the reason Esau was not part of the people, assuming that Jacob was there. When the bible checkmates itself on such a matter, you can only accept what it says if there is acceptance by the Guard over Revelation, The Criterion being the Quran. When God says I will bless Ishmael, and the Bible says he will be an ass, there is a problem. No one whose name has God's name in the Bible is an ass, so Ishmael was blessed unless you say the Bible God lied.

You are not bold enough to say such a thing because you will have to explain how the blessed Isaac became blind and his wife Rebecca was an evil woman against Esau and Jacob was a deception and a schemer. You see that blessing is real instead of on the lips by the trouble free life that Ishmael lived, remembered by his nephew, Jacob so much so that he told his children of Joseph generation. Muhammad [sa] says he is from Ibrahim [as] and the answer of his prayer. Read the Quran and there is "the station of Ibrahim" in Kaaba to tell you the everlasting love of Ibrahim for his son Ismail [as] who forbears, patient.


An Osu man can be the king maker in Igbo land. Though tradition dies hard, the fact on the table weakens tradition. The king maker is greater than the king. Ask GEJ who is the Nigerian President. Ask Buhari who jailed those who made independence possible. Ask Babangida who threw a billionaire in jail. Ask Gowon, a tiv man who rattled the whole of nigeria. I could have asked you to ask Abacha, but you are here and he is not. God elevates who He will and the prideful are easily shamed. In Abeokuta of today, Alake is only for Ake. The Olowu of the Owu where Obasanjo comes from dont bow to Alake. People are better and they destroy unacceptable status. Today, pen is mightier than sword. Today, the Promise of God is being fulfilled; the muslims are fasting for God in obedience to Him, seeking His Mercy. So are fasting 20 hours give and take a few hours.


The case of Ishmael is very clear in the Bible. Infact as far as God is concern, Ishmael is not supposed to be called after Abraham:

Genesis 21:12
And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

"For in Isaac shall thy seed be called" means Ishmael name has been deleted from Abraham's family.

Note that this statement was God's own statement. How would God again go Ishmael lineage to be a prophet - Muhammad? That Ishmael came to Abraham's burial is immaterial. Many people would also come who were not his children.

Now let us see the source or sources of Islam from a Jinn Religion (worship of Satan). Go through this biography of Muhammad's family painstakingly with mind unprejudiced and you will discover that islam has a satanic source(s):

Occultism in the family of Mohammed

When exposing occultism in the family of Mohammed, we are not showing prejudice or unfairness to Muslims; rather, we are simply presenting the truth, as recorded in Islamic literature. Unfortunately, the Islamic historians, who recorded such occult phenomenon, failed to recognize that such occultism is directly contradictory to: the nature, the call, and the word of the true God.
Will our Muslim friends today fail to continue to be able to discern the real spiritual forces, which under lied Mohammed and his family? An honest study of the life of the members of the family of Mohammed will help us to clarify this problem. We will begin with the grandfather of Mohammed, Abu Mutaleb, who was known as the worshiper of Asaf and Naelah.

What was the True Religion of Abdul Mutaleb?

Asaf and Naelah were two Kuhhan, priests of the Jinn-devils. Tradition asserts that the gods transformed them into two stones, because they committed fornication inside the Kaa’bah of Mecca.
The statues of Asaf and Naelah were also placed on the well of Zamzam. Ibn Hisham, who edited the oldest book on the life of Mohammed, says these statues were worshipped at the well of Zamzam. He tells us the worshippers sacrificed their animals to the statues there[1]. This suggests to us that the well of Zamzam was dedicated to the worship of the two priests of the Jinn, which the statues represented. It was Abdel Mutaleb, the grandfather of Mohammed, who dedicated the well of Zamzam to the two venerated Jinn priests and their statues. We draw this conclusion for many reasons. First, Abdel Mutaleb dug the well of Zamzam.[2] Second, Abdel Mutaleb was one of the worshippers of the statues of the two Jinn priests. He was so consumed by occult worship that he wanted to sacrifice one of his own sons at the feet of the two statues at Zamzam. That son was Abdullah, the father of Mohammed. When Abdel Mutaleb was at the point of killing Abdullah with his knife, Abdel Mutaleb's brother rescued the boy.[3]
The idea of sacrificing one’s son to the Jinn or their representatives, the venerated leaders and priests, is known, not only in Arabia, but also in other parts of the ancient world. Even to this day worshippers in the occult religions sacrifice children to devils. The fact that Abdul Mutaleb chose to sacrifice his son before these two statues reveals that the religion of the Jinn of Arabia was the religion to which he was most attached.
The third reason for concluding that Abdul Mutaleb dedicated the well of Zamzam to the statues of the Jinn priests who were venerated in Mecca is that Abdul Mutaleb showed he had a close relationship with the representatives of the Arabian Jinn religion. Those representatives, or priests, were called Kuhhan, the singular of which is Kahen. Abdul Mutaleb consulted the Kuhhan when he faced a problem. They were his counselors, and he used to travel great distances in order to meet and consult a famous Kahen. When a dispute between the tribe of Quraish and Abdel Mutaleb occurred because of the well of Zamzam, Abdel Mutaleb chose a famous Kahinah of Jinn to rule in the matter. This Kahinah was the one who appointed two dangerous Kuhhan of the Jinn, Satih and Shak', to be priests of the Jinn after her death.[4] Al-Halabieh says about these two Kuhhan of the Jinn:
They were the chiefs of the Kuhhan and the ones with knowledge about occultism and the priesthood to the Jinn.[5]
Ibn Hisham mentions about this Kahinah, “She was the Kahinah of the clan of Saad Hutheim.”[6] When a dispute arose between Abdel Mutaleb and Beni Kilab, which means the clan of Kilab, Abdel Mutaleb went to a Kahen of the Jinn called Rabiah Bin H'thar al-Asadi to judge the matter.[7] Consulting the Kuhhan of the Jinn was something that the grandfathers of Mohammed practiced. Hisham, the father of Abdel Mutaleb, was known to consult a main Kahen of the tribe of Khuzaa'h.[8] Many examples such as these shed light to the affiliation of the family and the ancestors of Mohammed to the religion of Jinn in Arabia.
As if this were not convincing enough, two more considerations prove that Abdul Mutaleb was a leader in the Arabian Jinn religion. When Abdel Mutaleb dedicated his son Abdullah, who became the father of Mohammed, he did it through a Kahinah, a female Kahen, under the instruction of the Jinn to whom she was connected. The biographers of Mohammed, including Ibn Hisham, Mohammed’s most authoritative biographer, tell us that Abdel Mutaleb took Abdullah to a Jinn priestess named Khutbah. She lived in the city of Khaybar located in north central Arabia.[9] When he visited Khutbah, Abdul Mutaleb expressed his readiness to kill his son if the priestess of Jinn ordered him to do so. It is clear that children born to the followers of occult sects were to be sacrificed to the malignant spirit connected with the medium or priest of the occult community. The spirit may ask that the child be killed as a sacrifice to the devil, or the priests may ask the child’s parents to present dogs or other animals to the malignant spirit as sacrifices. It is clear that, in the case of Abdul Mutaleb, we encounter the same occult phenomenon which is practiced among various occult sects. The spirits of Jinn-devils rule over the destiny of children who are born within the occult community. This was the reason many children were sacrificed to the devil.
We see the dedication of Abdel Mutaleb to the religious system which Khutbah represented. Abdel Mutaleb was ready to obey the decision of the Jinn-devil to whom Khutbah was a medium and a priest, in whatever the Jinn decided for his son. Ibn Hisham reports the answer the Jinn priestess gave to Abdel Mutaleb’s request: “Return to me after one day until the one to whom I am connected comes to me.”[10] By this she meant the Jinn-devil. The Jinn-devil came to her and told her that camels should be sacrificed instead of Abdullah, who became the father of Mohammed.
To decide the religion of any person, one needs only to look at where he consecrates his children. If he dedicates his children in a church, we know he is a Christian. If he dedicates them in a Jewish synagogue, we can be sure he is a Jew. If he dedicates them in a Sabian temple, then he is member of the Sabian sect. But when he dedicates his children in an occult ceremony by a medium of the order of a Jinn-devil, then he belongs to the occult sect that the medium or priestess represents. That’s his religion. Not far from Mecca, there were many Christian churches, particularly in the city of Najran. There were also many synagogues near Mecca, but Abdul Mutaleb avoided all these and went to dedicate his son through Kahinah, a priestess of the Jinn.
Another thing to consider was his willingness to find a wife for his son Abdullah from among the priestesses of the Jin. He introduced Abdullah to many young Jinn priestesses. On one occasion reported in the book of Halabieh, which contains the life of Mohammed:
When Abdel Mutaleb accompanied his son Abdullah in preparation for marriage, he passed by a Kahinah who was a priestess of Jinn from Tubbalah, a small town in Yemen. The name of the woman was Fatimah, daughter of Mural-Khathmieh الخثعمية.[11]
Another priestess of Jinn to whom Abdullah was introduced was Ruchieh Bint Naufal رقية. She was also a Kahinah priestess of Jinn. Ibn Hisham, Mohammed’s main biographer, showed that Abdul Mutaleb encountered Ruchieh in the Kaabah, which suggests that she was part of the occult functions that took place in the Kaabah of Mecca.[12]


(to be continued)
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 4:12pm On Jul 24, 2013
Finally, Abdel Mutalib selected a wife for Abdullah. She was Amneh, a niece of Soda Bint Zehra, the main priestess of the Jinn at Mecca. Al-Halabi states that the reason Abdel Mutalb took Amneh as a wife for Abdullah was due to her aunt Soda Bint Zehra.[13] Abdul wanted to be near the chief priestess and embrace the kind of dedication to the worship of Jinn which she represented.
An important test of the level of someone’s dedication and his attachment to his religious convictions is the partner he has selected for himself or for his son to marry. If he’s satisfied with any female of the sect, we might consider him a normal follower of his own religious system, but if he looks for wives only among women dedicated to his religion he ceases to be a simple follower of his religion, and becomes an activist and a fanatic. He shows that he desires to promote the religion by building a family totally dedicated to it, so that such family may have a leading role in his religious system.
This helps us see the religious affiliations of the man who dug the well of Zamzam, and gives us the purpose for which he dug the well. It was a custom for Arabians to dig a well and dedicate it to the gods they worship and venerate. The fact that Abdul Mutaleb dug the well of Zamzam and erected the two statues of the priest of Jinn, Asaf and Naelah, on the well, is sufficient to convince us of the nature of his religion and the zeal he had to promote it. Because he considered killing his son Abdullah before those two statues, indicates that the Arabian Jinn worship was his main religion and he was fully dedicated to it.
The literature which gives us background to the life of Arabians at the time of Mohammed, mentions the custom of some Arabians to present sacrifices to the Jinn-devils after they dug a well.[14] The fact that Abdul Mutaleb had erected the two statues of the priests of Jinn on the well of Zamzam, and that he was ready to kill his son at the feet of these statues, indicates that he wanted to bring a sacrifice to the Jinn, and that he dug the well of Zamzam for the express purpose of honoring the worship of the Jinn religion of Arabia.
How ironic it is to connect this occult place with Abraham! Muslims today receive no benefit from traveling so far to drink water from a well like the one at Zamzam. Neither do they benefit from performing rituals from this pagan occult system. Christ is the one who gives the true water of life. He gives the gift of the Holy Spirit and eternal life to each one who accepts Him as personal Savior. Shouldn’t our Muslim friends be among those who follow Christ?

Amneh, the mother of Mohammed

Amneh was the niece of Soda Bent Zahreh, the priest of Jinn at Mecca. We saw that the reason Abdel Mutalb took Amneh as a wife for Abdullah was due to her aunt Soda Bint Zehra.[15]
Mohammed was known to have suffered from trances since his childhood because Amneh, his mother, brought on him a rukhieh, or bewitching.[16] In the rukhieh a Kahan priest of Jinn brings the spirit of Jinn to a person to whom the Kahen is connected as a medium. Since Amneh was the niece of Soda Bent Zahreh, the priest of Jinn at Mecca. This may explain why she was able to perform occultic ceremonies upon Mohammed, called “rukhieh, when he was very young. Only the Kuhhan of Arabia could perform the right of “rukhieh,” a practice of witchcraft indicating that Mohammed’s mother had joined the ranks of the Kuhhan of Arabia after her aunt had passed away.
Children on whom a “rukhieh” was practiced suffered from many signs such as: falling into trances and having convulsions. Since his childhood, Mohammed suffered from many of these identical symptoms. Halabieh, a biographer of Mohammed, mentioned that Mohammed suffered from convulsions since he was one year old.[17] Sahih Al Buchari, reports one occasion on which Mohammed fell into a trance while he was a young man before he claimed to have received the Qur'an.[18] Other Islamic literature, such as Halabieh, states that Mohammed used to go into a coma before he wrote down the Qur'an, which clearly reveals his direct involvement with Kahaneh. When he started receiving the Qu’ran he fell into a coma.[19]
Anthropologists believe that the priesthood which serves the devil is transmitted from individual to individual in the same family.[20]

Abu Taleb

When studying occultism in the family of Mohammed, it is important to know what the biographers of Mohammed mention about Abu Taleb, the uncle of Mohammed, who Mohammed went to live with after his grandfather, Abdel Mutaleb, died.
Abu Talebs father had a special zeal for the Jinn Religion of Arabia, leading his son to follow in his footsteps. Abu Taleb’s alligance to the Jinn religion of Arabia, is confirmed by his consultation of the soothsayers and diviners. In fact, as son of a leader in the Jinn religion of Arabia, Abu Taleb had very close relationships with: soothsayers, diviners, fortune tellers, and all others who practiced witchcraft; Abu Taleb used to regularly consult with such persons . Ibn Hisham, the most authoritative biographer of Mohammed, mentions that Abu Taleb used to consult a soothsayer by the name of Lahab bin Auhjun bin Kaab لهب بن أحجن بن كعب , from the tribe of Uzd. Ibn Hisham mentions that Abu Taleb used to expose his nephew Mohammed to the advices of Lahab.[21] No wonder Mohammed suffered from nightmarish visions in the house of Abu Taleb, and Abu Taleb himself suffered from the influence of the Jinn-devils, experiencing the most dangerous and severe phenomenon, which usually occur in the houses of devil worshipers. Among the worst calamities which befell Abu Taleb was that the Jinn-devils seized his elder son, Taleb, and he no more was found.[22] This thing that occurred to Taleb is known in the field of demonology: when the devil possesses a person, often such person is subjected to suicidal acts provocted by the devil, such as throwing himself into the fire or into a well of water. The extremely dangerous activities of the devils in the house of Abu Taleb, where Mohammed grew up, is seen in another fact: the other son of Abu Taleb, called Ja'efer, was affected by what the Arabians called "Ain al-Jinn", which means " the eye of the Jinn". The Arabians at the time of Mohammed distinguished the symptoms of severe demon possession, as symptoms caused by the eye of the Jinn negatively effecting the person who suffers from such symptoms. These are the same symptoms which effected Mohammed, mainly: convulsions, trances and comas. The Arabians recognized the trance as an affliction caused by a devil. [/b]They called it “affliction through Ain,” or the eye. The eye of the Jinn looked at a person and caused the trance to happen.[23]The mother of Ja'efer told Mohammed -after Mohammed claimed to be a prophet-, " O prophet of Allah, my son Ja'efer is affected by the ‘Ain of Jinn,’ shall we make for him a Rukhieh. Mohammed said: yes."
[24] Rukieh was casting a spell on a person affected by a Jinn-devil. The adeherents of the Jinn religion of Arabia believed that another Jinn–devil, who is stronger than the one who caused the symptons of " Ain of Jinn ", is able to expell the Jinn from the body. Mohammed in this case agreed that such sorcery should be done to his cousin Ja'efer. As we will see that Mohammed himself, before his claim to be a prophet, was known to be a Rakhi راقي, the one who practices Rukhieh upon others. From these examples, we can imagine the dangerous occult environment where Mohammed passed his boyhood; he lived in a family where the Jinn-devils domainated and possessed the members, and where the worst imagineable consequences befell them! All of this was due to their relationships with soothsayers, sorcerer, diviners and mediums.
Thus, Mohammed’s close relationship with the Jinn, his episode of Jinn's disease, and his eventual rise to becoming a Rukhi himself grew out of his family’s deep occultic roots. His occult involvement all began with his mother Amneh casting spells on him as a young child, growing in intensity in the house of Abu Taleb, and continuing up until the time of his claim to prophethood. Even Mohammed’s uncle, Abu Taleb, unfolds the truth in his own poetry that Mohammed had become a Rakhi, a person who casts spells upon others. In fact, Ibn Hisham, the oldest and the most authoritative Islamic biographer of the life of Mohammed, wrote the very famous poem, “Abu Taleb.”, the uncle of Mohammed recited. The leaders of Mecca came to Abu Taleb asking him to give Mohammed to them to be judged by them. Abu Taleb refused, and recited a poem lauding and praising Mohammed. There is a stanza in this poem in which he described Mohammed as "a Rakhi, or conjurer who conjures spells in Harra where he dwells."[25] Harra’ is the caves near Mecca where Mohammed used to spend his time before he claimed to have been visited by the angel Gabriel and allegedly entrusted with the role of prophecy.
For Abu Taleb and in the eyes of many Arabians, the witch doctor, or rakhi, was a benevolent occupation because of the Jinn religion’s influence and the reputation that rakhis had for evicting the spirits that caused disease through their own Jinn. Mohammed confirmed that his uncle recited the poetry about him and boasted about its contents.[26]
Mohammed descended from a long line of occultic worshipers, which considered the casting of spells and sorcery to be a great privilege, and not a curse and an abomination as the Bible calls it. Deuteronomy chapter 18 prohibits that any one consult mediums of Jinn-devils, as the family of Mohammed was deeply involved with, or cast a spell like what Mohammed used to do and encouraged his relatives to do. In fact we read in Deuteronomy 18:10-14:
There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you. You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so. (NASB)

Khadijah, the First Wife of Mohammed, and her Cousin Waraqa
Khadijah, the first wife of Mohammed, came from a family of prominent occult leaders. Among them we mentioned Ruchieh, a Kahineh of Jinn-devils at Mecca. Ruchieh was the sister of Waraqa bin Naufal,[27] the Ebionite occult priest who was the cousin of Khadijah. Waraqa, was a leading figure in the Ahnaf. He used to make Tahnuf, which meant he spent time in the caves of Harra', separating himself from the rest of society for months at a time. (Such practices were common among heretics, as we learn from the early Christian fathers. [28]), and were known among leaders of occult sects. Khadijah used to make Tahnuf at the same caves.
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by truthman2012(m): 4:12pm On Jul 24, 2013
Waraqa was the one who convinced Mohammed to be a prophet. After returning home from the cave of Harra', where he often went, Mohammed was frightened. He told his wife that a spirit claiming to be Gabriel appeared to him and choked him three times. Mohammed was convinced after this encounter that he had a devil inside him. But Khadijah insisted that Mohammed become a prophet of Allah. It’s interesting to note that when angels appeared in the Bible, they never threatened anyone or imposed the prophetic role upon him.
Khadijah was married to Nabash Bin Zarareh Bin Wakdanنباش بن زرارة بن وقدان, a visionary for the Jinn, before she met Mohammed. The Jinn appeared to Nabash in the form of an old man to give him information[29]. Abu Baker was his most important disciple of Nabash. Abu Baker remained a close friend of Khadijah, eager to obey her when she declared Mohammed was the prophet, instead of her former husband. As a wife of a visionary of Jinn, this gave Khadijah some prestige, because many Arabians consulted Jinn visionaries, and gave them money. This also explains why Khadijah was wealthy. She had caravans which brought goods from Syria to Mecca. After Nabash died, she employed Mohammed in her caravans, then married him, although Mohammed was twenty years younger than she.
After the negative experiences which depressed Mohammed, Khadijah sent him to her cousin, Waraqa, to convince him that Mohammed was called to be a prophet of Allah. Waraqa succeeded in his task and became responsible for most of the Qur’anic verses at the beginning. Waraqa inserted Ebionite doctrines about Jesus in the Qur’an, stating that Jesus was a prophet, and that He was not crucified, but God made someone to resemble Jesus. That one was crucified because the crowd thought he was Jesus. This doctrine was first initiated by Simon, the magician from Samaria, who later founded a heresy which took his name, Simonianism. In reality, Simon created the root for such doctrine, before it was developed by the Gnostics in later times. Here, I present Simon the magician’s idea about Jesus, which Hyppolytus reported in “The Refutation of all heresies”:
Jesus Christ being transformed, and being assimilated to the rulers and powers and angels, came for the restoration (of things). And so (it was that Jesus) appeared as man, when in reality he was not a man. And (so it was) that likewise he suffered, though not actually undergoing suffering, but appearing to the Jews to do so.[30]
The idea that the people crucified someone whom God made to resemble Jesus was embraced by some heresy-believing groups which were known to have immoral values, such as free sex and connections with occultism. Waraqa belonged to one of these cults.
Waraqa was one of the founders of the group called Ahnaf. In the first narration of the life of Mohammed, written by Ibn Hisham in the 8th century A.D., we read:
The Honafa’, or Ahnaf, was a small group started when four Sabians at Mecca agreed. Those four were Zayd bin Amru bin Nafil, Waraqa bin Naufal, Ubaydullah bin Jahsh, and Uthman Bin al-Huwayrith.[31]
The four founders of Ahnaf were all related to Mohammed. They were descendants of Loayy, one of Mohammed's ancestors. Furthermore, Waraqa bin Naufal and Uthman Bin al-Huwayrith were cousins of Khadijah. We know this from Mohammed’s genealogy presented by Ibn Hisham.[32] Ubaydullah Bin Jahsh was a maternal cousin to Mohammed. Mohammed married his widow, Um Habibeh. All this reveals the close connection between Mohammed and the founders of the group.
This group was unknown outside Mecca, but Umayya bin Abi al-Salt, a maternal cousin of Mohammed, is considered by some to be a member of the group. He lived in the city of Taif. We know many people joined them. They belonged to different religions, and thus had various doctrines. Each religion contained some form of polytheism, paganism and occultism. This makes them the most unlikely group in history to claim that they espoused the faith which Abraham and other prophets in the Old Testament professed and preached. It’s ridiculous that Muslims would believe that this pagan group represented the true and devout faith.
The myths which they believed and incorporated into their poetry were also written into the Qur’an because Mohammed belonged to the group from the time he was a youth. He boasted that he believed in their creed, and he was known to have connections with many members of this group. He was influenced by their teachings, as well as by the immoral concepts and the use of slogans of sex to draw people to them, such as a paradise of free sex. All this reflects Mohammed’s deep affiliation to this group. Mohammed used their ideas. In the Qur’an we encounter some of the same myths.
It was not known if this group called themselves Honafa’ or Ahnaf, or if they were called this by the society as such, but they knew the terminology had a negative meaning and reflected negative behavior. The word hanif means “astrictive, confined, awry, biased and errant.” The Arabic word comes from the verb hanafa which means “to become Astrictive.”[33] Although the Qur’an would convey a positive meaning to the term hanif today, it was not so at the time of Mohammed. Jawad Ali, the Iraqi scholar I referred to earlier, says, “The Hanaf is straying from the right way.” Jawad Ali quotes many old Islamic authors who maintained this was the meaning of hanif at the time of Mohammed.[34] According to Jawad Ali, the word also is derived from an Aramaic word that means "atheist, guileful, hypocrite, infidel or perverted."[35]
No matter how you look at it, the term hanif was a negative one at the time of Mohammed, as we see it in the Arabic and Aramaic languages. This suggests that since the group's members were called by this term, not by themselves but by the society in which they lived, is a reflection on their immoral conduct and the perversions in which they participated.
The Immoral Reputation of Ahnaf and its Impact on Mohammed
Their immoral behavior is seen in their poems, such as the poem composed by Waraqa Bin Naufal, one of the four founders of the group. He boasted of his own experience raping a girl in her home and enjoying sex with her. In his poem he encourages others to enjoy experiences like this.[36] Waraqa's immoral ideas left a special impact on Mohammed, who learned under him.
When Waraqa died, the biographers of Mohammed said the “inspiration cooled down or languished.”[37] Because of this, Mohammed wanted to throw himself many times from a mountain. The narrators are in disagreement about the duration of such period in which he tried to kill himself; some claimed it was forty days, others say it was three years.[38] It took time before Mohammed found other resources for his verses.
Many Kuhhan of the Jinn religion of Arabia were part of the Ahnaf group. The Ahnaf used to have rhymed prose like the Kuhhan of the Jinn-devils of Arabia.[39] They used to have relationships with the Jinn-devils, and they claimed that those devils were useful helpers and agents. Among the leaders of Ahnaf, who was in closest communication with the Jinn-devils, was Ummia bin Abi al-Salt, the maternal cousin of Mohammed. The devil used to teach him religious things, such as: " Bismika allahumma," which means: "in your name Allah are they." [40] It is clear the Devils in Arabia were training the group of Ahnaf to face and challenge Christianity, which spread in Arabia during the sixth century. Later, Mohammed adopted the same term. The Ahnaf replaced the angels with the Jinn as useful agents, claiming that Solomon and other prophets of the Bible had Jinn–devils in their service. They claimed this to justify their occult relationships with the devils, like Ummia, who used to have relationships with the Jinn-devils. [41] Mohammed followed the same path, organized occultic rituals with the Jinn, boasting of such relationships, under the excuse that the Jinn-devils had become Muslims. In the Qur’an, Mohammed later copied the teachings of the Ahnaf that even Solomon had Jinn-devils in his service.
The study of the family in which Mohammed was born and raised up, shows that it was a family dedicated to occultism and relationships to the Jinn-devils. Many family members were involved in the leadership of the Jinn religion of Arabia as Kuhhans, or mediums of the Jinn- devils. We do not affirm this through mere guessing or conjecture, but by depending on the Islamic sources, upon which Muslims depend, in establishing the true history of Mohammed; such as Ibn Hisham and other important historical scholars who narrated the life of Mohammed. The involvement of Mohammed’s family in Arabian occultism explains Mohammed’s close relationship with the Jinn-devils; despite the fact that he tried to justify such occultic relationships with the excuse that the Jinn-devils had became Muslims.
Muslims are in need of the true divine guide, that is the Bible, in order to discern the truth and not remain in this eternal trap with which the Arabian Jinn religion so forcefully imprisons the souls of so many until this day. The Bible absolutely prohibits any relationships with Jinn-devils. In the Old Testament, the Bible orders that persons who are in contact with Jinn –devils, or persons who practice and cast spells, to be stoned to death. How, then, can a Holy God, who abhors occult practices like what the family of Mohammed and Mohammed himself practiced chose a prophet from among them?

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[1] Ibn Hisham, I, page 69
[2] Ibn Hisham, I, pages 117 and 118
[3] Ibn Hisham, I, page 126; Halabieh, I, page 58
[4] Halabieh, I, page 121
[5] Halabieh, I, page122
[6] Ibn Hisham, I, page 119
[7] Al-Nuwayri, Nihayat al-arab fi funun al-adab, 3, page 133
[8] Al-Nuwayri, Nihayat al-arab fi funun al-adab, 3, page 123
[9] Ibn Hisham I, pages 126 and 127
[10] Ibn Hisham, I, page 126; Halabieh, I, page 58
[11] Halabieh, 1,63
[12] Ibn Hisham, I, page 128
[13] Halabieh, I, pages 73 and 74
[14] Al-Lisan, 13, page 213 ; quoted by Jiwad Ali, al-Mufassal, vi, page 720
[15] Halabieh, I, pages 73 and 74
[16] Halabieh, 1, page 75
[17] Halabieh, 1, page 98
[18] Sahih al-Bukhari, 1, page 96

[19] Halabieh, 1, pages 406-407
[20] Demonolgia , a discourse on Witchcraft, pages 32-33
[21] Ibn Hisham, 1 page 147, see also the foot note in the same page.
[22] Halabieh 1, pages 101 and 432
[23] Taj al-Arus, 5, page 381
[24] Halabieh 1, pages 407
[25] Ibn Hisham, 1 pages 189 and 218
[26] Ibn Hisham, 1 page 225
[27] Ibn Hisham 1, page 128
[28] Hyppolytus, The Refutation of all heresies, book VIII , Chapter XIII
[29] Ibn Darid, Al-Ishtiqaq, pages 88 and 89
[30] Hyppolytus, The Refutation of All Heresies, book VI , Chapter xiv
[31] Ibn Hisham 1, page 242: quoted by Jawad Ali, vi, page 476
[32] Ibn Hisham, first part ; pages 63 and 76
[33] Al-Munjed, Arabic dictionary, page 158
[34] Jawad Ali, al-Mufassal, vi, page 451
[35] Jawad Ali , al-Mufassal, vi, page 454
[36] Al Asbahani, Al-Agani 3, page 118
[37] Sahih al-Bukhari, 1, page 4
[38] Halabieh, I, page 421
[39] Jawad Ali, al-Muffassal Fi Tarikh al-Arab Khabl al-Islam, 6, page 461
[40] Al-Dumeiri, Al-Hawan, 2, page 195; quoted by Jawad Ali, al-Muffassal Fi Tarikh al-Arab Khabl al-Islam, 6, page 484; al- Aghani, 4, page 122
[41] Ibn Kathir, Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya 2, page 227; quoted by Jawad Ali, al-Muffassal Fi Tarikh al-Arab Khabl al-Islam, 6, page 481
Re: Jesus Is The Last Prophet by Nobody: 1:40pm On Jul 25, 2013
i wrote, you went to copy but cant even break what you copied into small segments so it will be easy for the ready to read the long posts. i cant be bothered with what you post, except to look at the sub headlines.

the bible is wrong about the case of Ishmael. the evidence for the incorrect position of the bible is clear starting from the name and God chosen the name. God cant be wrong, except people can choose to lie as say its God Who said it. Ishmael means God hears him. when authority hears a ward under him, it means attending to the need of the ward. so Ishmael promise of greatness by God could not be because of oil because even ss nigeria has oil, so is former atheist russia and mostly hindu india has discovered oil i am told.

it couldnt be because of population because china alone or India alone and many other countries, individually are more populated than the whole arab nations combined. Its not because of the deserts because no one needs desert and Makka is not a place that can be turned to oasis with any significant form of farming like the jews of israel are doing.


the greatness even if all of those as one unit is, it will be meaningless without spiritual greatness. being a blood of Abraham to be deprived of spirituality because of mother, a mother who didnt offend her husband will be injustice because it will borne of pure prejudice. God is not prejudiced toward any of His creation, except if one lacks faith and obedience in and to Him. neither did Ishmael do because God would have taken away his love out of the heart of Abraham, The personal Friend of God. yet we read that Abraham loved and longed for Ishmael, in spite of Isaac in front of Abraham.


the fact that Ishmael buries Abraham proves you and your bible wrong if only you ponder any issue, thoroughly.



And people practice different religion than their family. i know children of christians who are secretly or openly muslims. so the religion of your father or family may not necessarily be your religion. a religion you must consciously choose and being born into it and only for that you remain is following your forefathers and thats nothing. so your argument is devoid of serious reflection.

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