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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:08am On Oct 20, 2017
giles14:
you to re-engineer it


And a new orxy would be better. New blades, new chassis, new engines, new cockpit. Reduced weight more power and the orxy mk2 would out perfom any thing

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 6:35am On Oct 20, 2017
andrewza:



Winner is new orxy helicopters.

There's no existing plan for one, both Armscor and the CSIR don't have a research paper on it.

We'll have to take an existing helicopter, get a license to produce our own variant. We should be good, on theory at least.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 6:42am On Oct 20, 2017
giles14:
well the winner should be Mi38 which you can den tweak to your satisfaction.

I forgot the EC725 Super Puma with the same flight ceiling as the Mi-38.

The thing about it is that it's the closest thing to the Oryx in terms of engineering layout BUT the costs are typically European.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:47am On Oct 20, 2017
ActivateKruger:


There's no existing plan for one, both Armscor and the CSIR don't have a research paper on it.

We'll have to take an existing helicopter, get a license to produce our own variant. We should be good, on theory at least.


Still think it would be better to get new orxy helicopters. Basically that means we get supper puma.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 7:16am On Oct 20, 2017
This gem I got from a 3rd party it a extract from SA mercy in Angola after 1990s.


As their flight hours accumulated the South Africans became increasingly taken with the Russian helicopter in comparison to what they had flown in the SAAF. Tait said, "and it could do with Western avionics and a more ergonomically-designed cockpit lay-out, but it is far superior to just about anything else in its weight class in a hot and high environment and is capable of carrying heavier loads.


In some respects the Oryx compares favourably to the Mi-17. It is approximately 10,000 pounds lighter at maximum all up weight and can carry comparable loads at reasonable distances. The Oryx's shortcomings versus the Mi-17 are its limited cargo space and the need for many more skilled technicians to keep it maintained properly. Whereas the Mi-17 is a very rugged and robust helicopter with good serviceability in the field and capable of taking a real hammering-qualities that saved our lives more than once-the Oryx needs far more pampering and TLC. The reliability of these Russian helicopters was fortunate, as the maintenance facilities in Angola were of a very poor standard, or non-existent. -South African merc pilot




So yeah mi17 is not a bad idea going Russian. Only need to modify the cockpit and install our EW and radios. All so as said denel does maintains on Russian choppers

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 7:50am On Oct 20, 2017
andrewza:
This gem I got from a 3rd party it a extract from SA mercy in Angola after 1990s.







So yeah mi17 is not a bad idea going Russian. Only need to modify the cockpit and install our EW and radios. All so as said denel does maintains on Russian choppers

Do you know how un-SANDF Russian equipment is? We have a standard to keep, myself, Patches and Frumentius don't want it and we somehow sit on the decision making table of the SANDF Nairaland Department grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 7:58am On Oct 20, 2017
GreenandGold:
Is Milkor teasing something here?

Maybe, or its just a random render.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 8:06am On Oct 20, 2017
ActivateKruger:


Do you know how un-SANDF Russian equipment is? We have a standard to keep, myself, Patches and Frumentius don't want it and we somehow sit on the decision making table of the SANDF Nairaland Department grin


RPG 7

MLRS

AK style rifle

1.45mm anti material rifel

ZSU 23 anti air guns

Extra extra


We use a lot of Russian gear and gear that is similar to what Russia uses. We do t use Russian doctren, Radios, Electrons or training. But using there gear is fine. I mean we should not discount the Mi17. We can get the cheap, we can easily modify them, we all ready do maintenance on them.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 8:20am On Oct 20, 2017
The African Union Mission in Somalia's Ugandan Contingent Commander, Brigadier General Kayanja Muhanga, visits the site of a VBIED attack conducted by the militant group al Shabaab in the Somali capital of Mogadishu on October 15, 2017

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 8:25am On Oct 20, 2017
Egyptian Navy Gowind 2500 Corvette ElFateh and Type 209 Submarine S42 Arrived to Alexandria after an exercise with french navy in the Atlantic

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patented: 8:36am On Oct 20, 2017
"Decision making table of SANDF nairaland Department..........that had me rolling
ActivateKruger:


Do you know how un-SANDF Russian equipment is? We have a standard to keep, myself, Patches and Frumentius don't want it and we somehow sit on the decision making table of the SANDF Nairaland Department grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:29am On Oct 20, 2017
andrewza:



RPG 7

MLRS

AK style rifle

1.45mm anti material rifel

ZSU 23 anti air guns

Extra extra




These things literally fell off a Soviet truck in the Angolan bush. We didn't buy them.

But you don't seem to get it, it's beyond what works and not. It's now about heritage, from the days of the Puma, then Super Puma and now Oryx. People relate to these things, it's the reason why parents take kids to the military demonstrations because there's a story to tell and it's a reason why we're here on this site. There must be continuity, it keeps the the industry flooded with fresh blood who grew an interest in this field after seeing an Orxy dramatically dropping Parabats in a show and a father cheering "this is how we did it".


The EC725 is the next logical evolution of the Oryx. The MK3 should be born from this platform.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 9:33am On Oct 20, 2017
Egypt Battalion 103 Sa'ka men from North Sinai

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 9:41am On Oct 20, 2017
Footages from the Egyptian naval exercise " Zat El-Swary 2017 " with participation of Gowind2500 corvette & Type-209 S42 submarine

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 9:45am On Oct 20, 2017
Egyptian naval special forces

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 10:13am On Oct 20, 2017
ActivateKruger:


These things literally fell off a Soviet truck in the Angolan bush. We were didn't buy them.

But you don't seem to get it, it's beyond what works and not. It's now about heritage, from the days of the Puma, then Super Puma and now Oryx. People relate to these things, it's the reason why parents take kids to the military demonstrations because there's a story to tell and it's a reason why we're here on this site. There must be continuity, it keeps the the industry flooded with fresh blood who grew an interest in this field after seeing an Orxy dramatically dropping Parabats in a show and a father cheering "this is how we did it".


The EC725 is the next logical evolution of the Oryx. The MK3 should be born from this platform.



Maybe but the fact is the mi17 is the cheaper option and we could get a lot more of them
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:52am On Oct 20, 2017
newafricaken254:
Footages from the Egyptian naval exercise " Zat El-Swary 2017 " with participation of Gowind2500 corvette & Type-209 S42 submarine

is the two missiles in the left the UGM-84L Harpoon Block II Encapsulated Missiles launched from the Type-209 submarines ? i dont see a ship

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:57am On Oct 20, 2017
LTGEN:
A Master Warrant officer ( name withheld) has been promoted on the advice of the commanding officer of his battalion ( Name of battalion withheld) and approved by the Nigerian Army Council due to his exceptional leadership and bravery to Captain. This is highly unusual in the Nigerian Army first being a Non-Commissioned officer, the time when this happened you would have to go back to the Civil War era, I have deliberately kept his name a secret because of what happened to the notoriety of LT. COL Abu Ali.
I t has been said fortune does smile on some in times of War. Congratulations to the fellow.

https://www.google.com.ng/search?redir_esc=&client=ms-android-infinix&hl=en-GB&oe=utf-8&safe=images&q=Nigerian+news&source=android-browser-type&qsubts=1508493391493&action=devloc#scso=uid_WenIUwAN-z4KFFiEswsgQw_3:880,uid_WenIUwAN-z4KFFiEswsgQw_5:658
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ViceAdmirlAgain: 11:36am On Oct 20, 2017
From Sat-Com Namibia

Can anyone make out which country this is

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ViceAdmirlAgain: 11:42am On Oct 20, 2017
ViceAdmirlAgain:
From Sat-Com Namibia

Can anyone make out which country this is

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 11:44am On Oct 20, 2017
andrewza:




Maybe but the fact is the mi17 is the cheaper option and we could get a lot more of them

Since when do we get the cheapest option? We go for the best in the category we want.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 20, 2017
ViceAdmirlAgain:
From Sat-Com Namibia

Can anyone make out which country this is
That's the Nigerian Air Force Air Assault Team.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 12:34pm On Oct 20, 2017
Algerian1:


is the two missiles in the left the UGM-84L Harpoon Block II Encapsulated Missiles launched from the Type-209 submarines ? i dont see a ship
very likely,i couldn't see any warship also
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 20, 2017
You heard it on this thread first grin grin grin.

SA Army keen on Black Hornet UAV

Desert Wolf has been demonstrating the Black Hornet mini-unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to the South African Army, which has shown strong interest in acquiring the system.

The Black Hornet was demonstrated last week in Heidelberg during the Army’s two-day Cadre Conference, with flight demonstrations every day. Another successful demonstration took place for South Africa’s Special Forces.

Chief of the Army, General Lindile Yam said that his soldiers must have the technology as soon as possible.

Desert Wolf’s Hennie Kieser said that soon most of South Africa’s military, police and state agencies will be operating the Black Hornet, with discussions underway with SANParks for anti-poaching.

Desert Wolf recently came back from Norway, after completing flight instructors training, with its own Black Hornets for demonstration purposes, as well as qualified UAV pilots, including the first female military certified UAV pilot in South Africa.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49650:sa-army-keen-on-black-hornet-uav-&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:48pm On Oct 20, 2017
ViceAdmirlAgain:
From Sat-Com Namibia

Can anyone make out which country this is

Well done!!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 12:52pm On Oct 20, 2017
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 12:54pm On Oct 20, 2017
ActivateKruger:


Since when do we get the cheapest option? We go for the best in the category we want.



Cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, less manpower to run, has more internal volume.


It one and only down size is that it can not fit in side a frigates hanger.



Mi17 is choice if we want lots of helicopters.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:39pm On Oct 20, 2017
Nigerian Navy kicks off “exercise pouncer”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHAeICUnCWA
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 1:49pm On Oct 20, 2017
frumentius:
You heard it on this thread first grin grin grin.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49650:sa-army-keen-on-black-hornet-uav-&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107


I wonder how many secret Black Hornet type drones the US has buzzing around Kim Jong-Un's kitchen as he makes (or orders someone at gun point) tea.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 1:55pm On Oct 20, 2017
ssaengine:


I wonder how many secret Black Hornet type drones the US has buzzing around Kim Jong-Un's kitchen as he makes (or orders someone at gun point) tea.



None. This is a over the hill drone. As in "what's over that hill? O my a seleka ambush"
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 2:53pm On Oct 20, 2017
andrewza:




None. This is a over the hill drone. As in "what's over that hill? O my a seleka ambush"



I'm not saying they stand at North Korea's border and try fly one from there to his home/mansion. But drones the size of flies (which the U.S definitely has) are easy to smuggle into anywhere really....get a spy posing as a tourist to release one into the capital. A few days of flying around and a government building can be entered.

P.S I know what Black Hornet is used for, hence I said "secret Black Hornet type" drones.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 3:00pm On Oct 20, 2017
SA Navy seems to be on a maintenance (or something) drive. Pics by Allan Roy, saairforce.co.za

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