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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:17am On Feb 07, 2017
Henry24o:


It's much easier and much more expensive. What happens when the air support doesn't come? Is this method sustainable? what happens in a battlefield were we don't have air superiority or in a contested air space were the hostiles possess Manpads, like we've seen in Syria.

In my opinion, this method we seem to use to prosecute our own insurgency, although effective, has a higher probability of unsustainability.

Ground troops first have to be proficient in the art of soldiering. Air support although vital, should be a secondary option, except in a situation were friendly positions are attacked by overwhelming enemy combatants.
Air support varies according to situations to determine if they are primary or secondary in as much as the goal of neutralising your enemy is achieved, yes it cost more however no amount of investment can bring back the life of your personnel should such ocvohr.
In this case I believe as soon as the enemy was spotted, action should have been the taken asap.it is glearing they were outgunned via high caliber weapons I believe they were aware of from the drone footage.at least 30mm staging sef would have discouraged them from attacking

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:03am On Feb 07, 2017
Airborne360:
Air support varies according to situations to determine if they are primary or secondary in as much as the goal of neutralising your enemy is achieved, yes it cost more however no amount of investment can bring back the life of your personnel should such ocvohr.
In this case I believe as soon as the enemy was spotted, action should have been the taken asap.it is glearing they were outgunned via high caliber weapons I believe they were aware of from the drone footage.at least 30mm staging sef would have discouraged them from attacking
Don't forget to add salt.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 7:35am On Feb 07, 2017
Henry24o:


It's much easier and much more expensive. What happens when the air support doesn't come? Is this method sustainable? what happens in a battlefield were we don't have air superiority or in a contested air space were the hostiles possess Manpads, like we've seen in Syria.

In my opinion, this method we seem to use to prosecute our own insurgency, although effective, has a higher probability of unsustainability.

Ground troops first have to be proficient in the art of soldiering. Air support although vital, should be a secondary option, except in a situation were friendly positions are attacked by overwhelming enemy combatants.

What about Kenya F-5? Can't b they be configured to drop free bombs like our A-jets? About man pads, they should invest in ECM.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:40am On Feb 07, 2017
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:33am On Feb 07, 2017
Mortar, mortar and more mortar is what every base needs.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:36am On Feb 07, 2017
tdayof:


What about Kenya F-5? Can't b they be configured to drop free bombs like our A-jets? About man pads, they should invest in ECM.
Kenya if she is limited by funds should acquire Chinese LIFT aircraft.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:09am On Feb 07, 2017
MikeCZA:
Kenya if she is limited by funds should acquire Chinese LIFT aircraft.

base defense must be stepped up albit this time little more emphasis must be put on how to stop vbieds from coming close , since it is clear even if the vbieds r stopped they pack enough power to damage if near to the base/soldiers.

also good idea to equip with inexpensive LAW type weapons. even the ancient malyukta ATGM will do

remote controlled mines (buried deep) , spikes on probable/improbable grin ingress points r good option.

point being like the medieval times these terrorists r using the vbieds to act as shock/breaching weapons , if u manage to disable the vbieds from far half the battle in base defense is won (kind of)

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 9:44am On Feb 07, 2017
MikeCZA:
Kenya if she is limited by funds should acquire Chinese LIFT aircraft.
Which Chinese aircraft do you suggest?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:44am On Feb 07, 2017
nemesis2u:


base defense must be stepped up albit this time little more emphasis must be put on how to stop vbieds from coming close , since it is clear even if the vbieds r stopped they pack enough power to damage if near to the base/soldiers.

also good idea to equip with inexpensive LAW type weapons. even the ancient malyukta ATGM will do

remote controlled mines (buried deep) , spikes on probable/improbable grin ingress points r good option.

point being like the medieval times these terrorists r using the vbieds to act as shock/breaching weapons , if u manage to disable the vbieds from far half the battle in base defense is won (kind of)
Regarding the base.

It is not equipment but doctrine. How they fight.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:48am On Feb 07, 2017
tdayof:
Which Chinese aircraft do you suggest?
The Hongdu L-15 ofcourse.

Type acquired by the Zambian air force.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 10:41am On Feb 07, 2017
Conventional warfare tactics are long abandoned by most groups. The Kenyan base attacks I'll bet is no different to the type of engagements the US military encountered in Afghanistan. Worse is the Americans were sometimes camped in frontline bases in very close proximity to enemy troops enduring probing attacks round the clock.

Suicide and waves of attacks to try overwhelm bases, the modus operandi of this terrorists groups should be anticipated already. In Africa, probably due to funding, troops only make do with sandbags and digging trenches. It ends up inadequate.

Blame the army hierarchy for not having the foresight, insufficient or outdated practices to combat new threats. Rigid mentality and doctrine would only mean they allow unnecessary deaths. Worse is after multiple scenarios, there remains very little uptake of lessons and innovation in some African armed forces.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:19am On Feb 07, 2017
BlackBaron:
Conventional warfare tactics are long abandoned by most groups. The Kenyan base attacks I'll bet is no different to the type of engagements the US military encountered in Afghanistan. Worse is the Americans were sometimes camped in frontline bases in very close proximity to enemy troops enduring probing attacks round the clock.

Suicide and waves of attacks to try overwhelm bases, the modus operandi of this terrorists groups should be anticipated already. In Africa, probably due to funding, troops only make do with sandbags and digging trenches. It ends up inadequate.

Blame the army hierarchy for not having the foresight, insufficient or outdated practices to combat new threats. Rigid mentality and doctrine would only mean they allow unnecessary deaths. Worse is after multiple scenarios, there remains very little uptake of lessons and innovation in some African armed forces.
100% you nailed it
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:39am On Feb 07, 2017
Henry24o:


Kenya needs proper attack helicopters. At-least 6 x MI-24s. Armed light utility helicopters are what they are, utility helicopters.

Anyway, as soon as deliveries for the Air Tractors commence, CAS would have been well taken care of.
the vastness of our region and its sparsely populated,we need MI-35 gunships .thats what brazil did ,when it wanted to acquire an attack helicopter.due to it vast territory they acquired MI-35
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 11:56am On Feb 07, 2017
africaken254:
the vastness of our region and its sparsely populated,we need MI-35 gunships .thats what brazil did ,when it wanted to acquire an attack helicopter.due to it vast territory they acquired MI-35

That's what i've always said, those Harbin Z-9 armed and MD 500 helicopters don't cut it.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:59am On Feb 07, 2017
Somewhere in the Atlantic, SAS Amatola conducting SAGA training en route to Spain, the UK and Germany.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:00pm On Feb 07, 2017
tdayof:


What about Kenya F-5? Can't b they be configured to drop free bombs like our A-jets? About man pads, they should invest in ECM.

The L-15 ATF (the sub-sonic version) is the sort of jet they need. The F-5's are old. They drop free fall bombs, and have participated in operations in Somalia. The fact is, they aren't good enough.

Even with ECM, Russian MI-17s carry the President S ECM, one of the worlds most advanced ECMs but a couple Russian helicopters have been shot down regardless of President S.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:06pm On Feb 07, 2017
Airborne360:
Air support varies according to situations to determine if they are primary or secondary in as much as the goal of neutralising your enemy is achieved, yes it cost more however no amount of investment can bring back the life of your personnel should such ocvohr.
In this case I believe as soon as the enemy was spotted, action should have been the taken asap.it is glearing they were outgunned via high caliber weapons I believe they were aware of from the drone footage.at least 30mm staging sef would have discouraged them from attacking

I guess so.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:16pm On Feb 07, 2017
Excellent photograph of Mozambican marines

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:20pm On Feb 07, 2017
AMISOM Somalia


Nigerian police

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:23pm On Feb 07, 2017
AMISOM Somalia

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:31pm On Feb 07, 2017
AMISOM Somalia

Burundi

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:33pm On Feb 07, 2017
AMISOM Somalia

Kenya

Humanity

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:34pm On Feb 07, 2017
61mech:
Where were the nuke weaponising program located on that site ?
I believe it was called Advena.

Yep. Any idea what's on the old Advena facilities nowadays? I'm told it's still restricted access.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:40pm On Feb 07, 2017
AMISOM Somalia


Uganda

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:42pm On Feb 07, 2017
Nigerian Air Force Tactical Air Command, Makurdi.

The home of the Tigers.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Henry24o: 12:45pm On Feb 07, 2017
Nigerian navy engineering.


Nigerian navy combatantte class ships are ready for sea trials.

3 vessels in all.

- NNS Ekun

- NNS Damisa

- NNS Ayam

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:46pm On Feb 07, 2017
Odunayaw:
is sumthn juicy coming to the fore cheesy?

Nothing for us, I'm afraid.
My colleague is accompanying Belgian Special Forces who are testing the Reva Scout as a possible replacement for their Carat Unimog Logistic Platform/ Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol.

PIC 1 & 2: REVA Scout;

PIC 3 & 4: Unimog.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by darknetcom: 12:50pm On Feb 07, 2017
Airborne360:
100% you nailed it

did african leaders ever had foresight..??
they dont even understand attrition wars...

thats why a regiment of only 100 men could defeat a african army of 20000...

if they realy understood attrition wars,their is no way any foreighn army can set foot on african soil...

in africa,everything is about attrition..boko haram understands that..al shabab too..
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Syphax(m): 12:53pm On Feb 07, 2017
Zoharariel:


Algeria - The only Country I dread in Afrika.
Why?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:58pm On Feb 07, 2017
Henry24o:
AMISOM Somalia


Uganda

It's quite instructive that the Kebabs have only ever mounted their most spectacular attacks against the Kenyans and Burundians.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by darknetcom: 12:59pm On Feb 07, 2017
frumentius:


It's quite instructive that the Kebabs have only ever mounted their most spectacular attacks against the Kenyans and Burundians.

hmmm..the kenyans..i am surprised at them...
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 1:14pm On Feb 07, 2017
Positive news from the SAAF!

60 Cadets to be sent per year for training at the USAF academy, meaning that every 3 year cycle will see 180 cadets trained in the US.

Our foreign training agreements now include: USA, Cuba, Russia, Germany, United Kingdom, Brazil, Pakistan, Zimbabwe*, Zambia**, and Bangladesh***

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46714:saaf-sending-members-to-military-academy-in-the-united-states&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

*what the fvck!?
**wat?
***fvcking WAT!?!

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