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Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by igbo2011(m): 9:27pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
I notice that there are not too many Afrocentric posters on here. The Afrocentrics ave to battle the Eurocentrics an try to get them to become more conscious about the world we live in. This is just like reality because many Global Africans (people of African descent) are very Eurocentric. Who would you vote for most Afrocentric poster? |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
Are you by any chance referring to the few, see no-evil government apologists who give the afrocentric movement a bad name on these boards? If you must know, what often passes for afrocentricism on Nairaland are expressions of micro-nationalism and ethnocentrism which are counter-intuitive and do little to advance the cause of Nigeria nay Africa. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
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Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by billante(m): 9:56pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
Baba musiwa! |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by igbo2011(m): 10:48pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
eGuerrilla: Are you by any chance referring to the few, see no-evil government apologists who give the afrocentric movement a bad name on these boards? If you must know, what often passes for afrocentricism on Nairaland are expressions of micro-nationalism and ethnocentrism which are counter-intuitive and do little to advance the cause of Nigeria nay Africa. Give me an example of what you are talking about. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 12:31am On Aug 12, 2013 |
Definition of Afrocentric by merriam-webster: - Centered on or derived from Africa or the Africans. - Emphasizing or promoting emphasis on African culture and the contributions of Africans to the development of Western civilization. Afrocentrism/ethnocentrism (without the superiority aspect)/Black-consciousness are interchangeable - however Pan-Africanism is an entirely different ideology. You can be Afrocentric and Black Conscious - without necessarily being a Pan-Africanist. Also, most Eurocentric Europeans are also ethnocentric and tribal, yet that doesn't negate their Eurocentricism. Anyway, regarding the topic: I think Tony_Spike, Terracotta, Pagan_9ja(to an extent), Sybellah, Cap28, Ezeagu and a few diasporan blacks in the culture section (Kidstranglehold, Papa_Africa et al) are the most Afrocentric posters on this forum. PS: don't include Rossike on the list - the guy is a fraud! 1 Like |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by seanet02: 12:53am On Aug 12, 2013 |
ShymX: Definition of Afrocentric by merriam-webster:I was almost doing that 1 Like |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by OdenigboAroli(m): 1:10am On Aug 12, 2013 |
Pagan Niger,Kidstranglehold,Physics,Odumchi,Ezeagu,Kails,Msdarkskin and Pleep. These are the ones I can remember now. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by thoth: 1:13am On Aug 12, 2013 |
I thought he might mean Pan-Africanism. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 1:14am On Aug 12, 2013 |
I'm new in this part of the forum...wld be watching out for them. I'll come back to update my list! |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 1:23am On Aug 12, 2013 |
Odenigbo Aroli: Pagan Niger,Kidstranglehold, Updated. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 1:25am On Aug 12, 2013 |
thoth: I thought he might mean Pan-Africanism. Pan-Africanism is a different ideology entirely. Pan-Africanism deals with Africans seeing themselves as a single people. However, Afrocentricism deals with having an African mind and discussing issues from an African point-of-view, using African culture/history/traditions. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by BlackPikiN(m): 1:51am On Aug 12, 2013 |
^^^^WTH is Tony spike? |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by PhysicsQED(m): 1:57am On Aug 12, 2013 |
ShymX: Definition of Afrocentric by merriam-webster: This second definition is actually a Eurocentric definition of Afrocentrism. I stumbled across this in the 11th edition of Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary a while back and I shook my head. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by PhysicsQED(m): 1:58am On Aug 12, 2013 |
Odenigbo Aroli: Pagan Niger,Kidstranglehold,Physics,Odumchi,Ezeagu,Kails,Msdarkskin and Pleep. These are the ones I can remember now. ShymX: Yeah, I'm surprised anyone would mention me when listing Afrocentric posters. I don't recall ever posting a single Afrocentric comment on this forum. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Afam4eva(m): 8:29am On Aug 12, 2013 |
I think the OP meant Pan-African as he's one himself. Most people on this forum are Pan their tribe or at most Pan-Nigerian as in the case of Rossike. But Rossike also extends his patriotism to the African continent. As far as the most Pan-African poster goes, that title belongs to Igbo2011. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by birdman(m): 2:17am On Aug 13, 2013 |
ShymX: I dont know any pan-africanist that actually believes all Africans are a single people. Different pan-africanists also have different causes. The only thing generic to pan-africanism would be the idea of a shared responsibility towards liberation from outside oppression. In any case, pan-african or afrocentric, its clearly Horus imo 1 Like |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by birdman(m): 2:20am On Aug 13, 2013 |
PhysicsQED: haha. I just had a run-through about this with another nairalander. There are some things you shouldn't be looking to the dictionary to get a definition for. you already know its going to be a pile of *u know what* |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by IdomaLikita: 7:01am On Aug 13, 2013 |
Rossik (when he's sober) |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Rossikk(m): 7:49am On Aug 13, 2013 |
I'm beginning to hate that term 'Afrocentric'. I prefer the term 'Truthcentric'. So called 'Afrocentrics' are merely Truthcentrics who have rejected the 'whitewashing' of history by European newcomers to civilization. Truthcentrics believe in telling it like it is. For instance, if the ancient visitors to Egypt, the world's first major civilization, which gave birth to mathematics, chemistry, architecture et al, ALL wrote that the ancient Egyptians were blacks ''with wooly hair'', then it means they were black Africans, and that black Africans were the architects of our current global civilization. No argument. No need for DNA testing, or debate. Why would Herodotus, Aristotle, Homer, Diodorus Sicilius, Lucian, Appolodorius - ALL sages of classical western history and writing, tell a lie? So Truthcentrics believe that, based on historical records, no African has ANY REASON WHATSOEVER to go around feeling less worthy or less able than any European or Asian. Or feel pressured to adopt the ways, religions, habits, and beliefs of these peoples, who, figuratively speaking, were babies when we were grown ups, civilizing the world and inventing things. Today, Truthcentrics laugh in amusement and pity when they see Africans - who gave the world religion - falling over each other to worship foreign gods and deities. Blacks were referred to in the ancient mediteranean world as Kushites or ''Ethiopians''. Greek historian Diodorus Siculus, author of Bibliotheka Historica. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." Much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings". Diodorus continues: "They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity," "The Aithiopians say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them." "There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair". (Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1906)) ............... So why are Africans today suddenly believing that unless you worship the god of the Jews and Arabs, you cannot possibly be worshipping the Creator? HOW DID THE TEACHER BECOME STUDENT? These are the sort of questions Truthcentrics ask, and demand answers to. Ancient Africans were known globally for their honesty, piety, and near-divinity. A people specially favoured by heaven. Read more about ''the blameless Ethiopians''. http://books.google.com.jm/books?id=a-NmaO-kM2UC&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=the+blameless+ethiopians&source=bl&ots=qL7IKErA2Q&sig=JzIaAEiCFVbu9-puDZOshMR1Y1Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jdsJUui6CsP0yQG9nYHYDQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=the%20blameless%20ethiopians&f=false 3 Likes |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 7:52am On Aug 13, 2013 |
@OP, here is a post I directed to you on a different thread yesterday: @igbo2011, Too often I come across definitions of Afrocentricity which are inspired and characterised only by its adherent's opposition to the Other - cultural imperialism, xenophobia, Western ethnocentrism, and so on. Now aside from betraying its true essence, such views are counter-intuitive and also, invariably, at odds with the revolutionary ideal it represents. To be sure I understand what you mean when you describe yourself as an Afrocentric, could you be so kind as to elaborate a bit more. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Tolexander: 7:57am On Aug 13, 2013 |
To me, only afrocentric base on the african cultural promotion on nairaland is PhysicsQED |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 8:16am On Aug 13, 2013 |
Tolexander: To me, only afrocentric base on the african cultural promotion on nairaland is PhysicsQED The promotion of one's culture can be considered an expression of cultural nationalism actually. If this is all you consider Afrocentricity to be, you are wrong. PhysicsQED,undoubtedly, ranks among the leading scholars/historians on these boards. But then if you think this quality is sufficient to mark him out as an Afrocentrist, where do you place the likes of Odumchi and Kats? Any definition of Afrocentricity which does not reference the works of Molefi Asante is erroneous, in my opinion. There are five general characteristics of the Afrocentric Method |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Tolexander: 9:35am On Aug 13, 2013 |
eGuerrilla:odumchi has always come here to defend and showcase anything ethnical about his tribe. Katzumoto doesn't really care about things like that but only contributes when he sees any false comment and gives his historical perception to right the wrong mostly base on argument. Reason you can't see him having any topic on the africa. PhysicsQED has a kind of loathe for anything against african culture and culture encompasses all aspect of life. He makes sure he gives a picture and good statement of africa before colonialism. Base on all your criteria without leaving one, it will be better to say non of them perfectly fits into the subject Afrocentric! Mind you, the topic said the 'most afrocentric'. This means there is an element of comparison between all these members but one has an outstanding quality that makes him better than the rest. The pygmies of congo aren't tall (to dignify their height) but of them all, there will still be the tallest of them all not because he attained a 10ft height but because there is a comparativeness. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 10:11am On Aug 13, 2013 |
@Tolexander, Thanks for your indulgence. To buttress my point, you would note that PhysicsQED actually set out his stall earlier, when he made the following remark: Yeah, I'm surprised anyone would mention me when listing Afrocentric posters. I don't recall ever posting a single Afrocentric comment on this forum. If you go through the archives of NL, I think you would find that the kind of "loathing" you mentioned typifies another contributor who has already visited this thread. I am referring to one who finds it hard to "intersect ideas with actions and actions with ideas on the basis of what is pejorative and ineffective and what is creative and transformative at the political and economic levels", as prescribed by Asante. My reason for joining this discussion was to find out what the general understanding of Afrocentricity is. It has been quite revealing up to this point, and I hope the flow continues. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Tolexander: 10:53am On Aug 13, 2013 |
eGuerrilla: @Tolexander,of course now, you can't expect PhysicsQED to say he ever had an afrocentric comment, cos it will amount to self praising. Thanks for the criteria given cos it increased my understanding on afrocentricism. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by igbo2011(m): 6:57pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
eGuerrilla: @OP, here is a post I directed to you on a different thread yesterday: Every single thing I do in my life is for the benefit of the Pan Aferican ommnity. The reason I get up is to make ifference. I go to school to make a diferene. Every ay I think of ways to make a difference. I made a site www.africanedp.com to promote our economies. My facebok page is gaining popularity www.facebook.com/africanedp I hink of life through an aforcentric point of view. I study history from an afrocentric perspective. I am a pan African nationalist. I only date black women. I spend my money in my comunity. I wear African lothes all the time I am still learning more African langauges. i want to master Igbo YOruba nad KiSwahili in the next couple of years. Iknow a lot about African cuntries, politics and economics. I know about the diaspora s well. am a social engineer to ome xtent I focus on economics but I also study other social sciencs on my pare time because they are intertwined. i believe in Afrocentric schools. I believe that more peope should b afrocentric and self loving instea of self hating like mot Errocentric Africans are. 5 Likes |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Horus(m): 8:23pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
birdman: Yes I agree, its clearly Horus |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by UyiIredia(m): 10:58pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
Kails (or MzDarkskin) is definitely Afrocentric. Or should I say 'Jamocentric' 1 Like |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by Nobody: 11:33pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
@igbo2011, You covered quite a bit of ground there - thanks for this bro. Based on your organisational efforts to date, it is clear that your embrace of an alternative world view goes beyond mere aesthetics and the usual grandstanding one sees around these parts, to incorporate some of the philosophical underpinnings of Afrocentricity. I posed my earlier question because, I think, Afrocentricity, much like Pan-Africanism, poses a particular challenge for Africans on the continent. As both ideals bring into sharp focus a material reality of unresolved chasms (take a look at some of the busiest discussion threads these past few days), what most adherents manage can best be described as a "fudge" which has more in common with Senghor's negritude movement and Mobutu's Africanization program. In a sense, this strain of Afrocentricity - if one can call it that - does not stand on its own merits. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by thoth: 12:48am On Aug 14, 2013 |
If you really know about Mobutu you would not have thought he has any Afrocentric intention at heart. To me he is just a Horrible actor. |
Re: Who Is The Most Afrocentric Poster On Nairaland? by jmaine: 12:59am On Aug 14, 2013 |
Proudly a Rossike fan on such threads . . |
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