I BEGIN TO WONDER WHY PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE TO SAY ANYTHING THEY FEEL LIKE SAYING. GEJ IS CLUELESS, BUHARI SI BH, OYEDEPOE IS 419, ADEBOYE IS A THIEF. WITH ALL THE EXTRACT ABOVE,CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE ADEBOYE MADE IT MANDATORY FOR ANYBODY TO PAY A DINE? EVEN IF HE CALLS ON OBAMA TO COME AND BUILD THE CHURCH, IT IS LEFT FOR HIM (OBAMA)TO DECIDE ON WHAT TO DO. THAT SHOULDNT BE ANYONE'S HEADACHE. PLS IF ADEBOYE HAS REQUESTED FOR THAT AND YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT JUST MOVE ONE AND ALLOW THOSE THAT ARE READY TO DO IT GO AHEAD.DO WHAT YOU ARE CONVINCED TO DO AND STOP UNECESSARY DEBATE. DONT BE SUPPRISED THAT BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR THAT PROJECT MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WITH YOUR UNECESSARY WRITE UP.

frosbel:

where 2 or 3 are gathered, Jesus is present.

Following the model of the early church , there is no need for bigger buildings, we need people with big hearts for the cause of Christ.

t
Acts 17:24, it is in new testament in my Bible.
Thumb up!

Chagga u darken counsel without knowledge.you are in no position to question papa adeboye. You neither called him nor where u present while he communicated with God before calling for funds for the new building. I would advice u to stay far away from commenting on the action or inactions of genuine men of God. Remember Miriam Moses sister in the bible. A word is enough for the wise.

[size=13pt]Apostle Paul said :[/size]


9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.

11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;

12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you - 1 Corinthians 4:9-14


[size=14pt]Yet most of the so called Nigeria MOG cannot lick Paul's shoes when it comes to greatness.[/size]

Will u pls b civilize 4 once,4 baba tellin d donors of 200million above 2 see d sec is d normal and ideal tin,who else will he tell u 2 see.nt dat odas cant see G.O sec bt ds is just a project on ground and he needs d sec 2 take proper documentation,so dat he can № where he is going 2

magkhan: Op...are you saying that building an auditorium for the glory of God is not a worthy cause?
so it's better to just have a building where most worshipers will be exposed to nature hazard while worshipping God?
king David said 'God forbid that I should give the Lord something that cost me nothing '...
the pastor did not say steal and come donate,any who does that is only answerable to God...
Even if pastor Adeboye wants to build the biggest church in Africa,the gates of hell shall not prevail against him neither will it collapse because some people donate ill gotten money...
God said to Abraham if I Find 10 godly people,I will not destroy sodom...same with the church

Stupid argument. So he did not ask anyone to steal. Granted. He only subtly encouraged it. Daddy GO needs 10 persons to contribute 10 billion naira. Did you bother to ask who those billionaires are? It is only in Nigeria people donate billions while they don't own a single stall in the market. It is only in Nigeria where civil servants are billionaires. It is only in Nigeria where we have 'silent billionaires': people who nobody knows their source of stupendous wealth. Most unfortunate, some people come to NairaLand to justify criminality of the highest order. This Daddy GO and his silent billionaires will all have their day in jail. Time is coming.

hmmm!

People just criticize without getting all the facts.
Pls you guys do me a favour, open a new window on your browser, go to google, then type "RCCG charity organizations"
The fact that some churches do not make noise do not mean that they don't do charity.
As for the auditorium, perhaps you would prefer it the congregations begins to pour out into to expressway because the camp ground has become too small for them. I will very much the resulting traffic stand-still so you can have more to whine and complain about.

nne3870: Gullible africans!
Raising money to build 'another' auditorium whereas more than 14million graduates are unemployed.
Why not organise a seminar to raise 1billion naira to empower the youths in his church?
May be after building the billion naira auditorium God himself will be so sad about the kind of money used to build it and God may never visit or recognise the road to the church.

Christians be wise and don't allow yourselves to be victims of this madness. If you want to sow seed, look for someone who really needs it and bless the soul, don't give it to ya pastor to build 'ANOTHER' auditorium.

My dear izzit the church's fault that there's no job?

If dey did wanna organize a seminar to raise 1 billion you'd rush here and still write " why would a church organize a seminar to deceive poor members to raise 1billion"..."

God so sad because he's house is expensive?? You don't Know God at all. Solomon gave a thousand burnt offering, was God so sad that he should have called all the beggars in is Israel n fed them instead?

How many seeds have you sown, and where?


You amaze me sha!

Diamonddamsel: Its well God will help us.

amen o

bknight: Can pastors adeboye, oyakhilome, ashimolowo, adeyemi etc carry handheld public address system and go with legs preaching under d rain and sun on d streets in some remote village somewhere?

If you thinj those men didn't do all this, you are a joker. Did you think they all started this big?

The Churches in Nigeria today that are under the banner of modernization or pentecostalism have all become heavily money minded and totally materialistic. Christianity to many Nigerians is the primary way to become quickly rich or wealthy in all ramifications. Churches are now specialists and financial consultants on how to make their members rich through the deceptive message of taking their tithes and offerings and giving them the false hope of wealth or riches in return for their sacrificial givings.

The so called prosperity gospel that entered Nigeria in the early 1980s has produced two very distinct and mixed results in that country since its introduction to the Nigerian Christian community by the visting America's prosperity pioneers and teachers as well as their Nigerian trained and mentored prosperity gospel pastors. The primary beneficiaries from this prosperity gospel or the greed message of religious exploitation are the prosperity teachers who are now super-rich. The tens of millions of their gullible, vulnerable, exploited, deceived followers and givers continue to live day in and day out in midst of hopelessness, abject or chronic poverty that prevents them from enjoying the most basic needs of life, such as a decent shelter, regular nutritional meals, transportation, health care, education, personal savings and decent clothes on their bodies.

BIBLICAL REFERENCES:
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver - 2 Corinthians 9:7 (NIV Translation).

He that oppresses the poor to increase his riches, and he that gives to the rich, shall surely come to want - Proverbs 22:16.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ - 2 Corinthians 11:13.

Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself . But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out . And having food and raiment let us be therewith content . But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after , they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows - 2 Timothy 6:5-10.

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver - 2 Corinthians 9:7 (NIV Translation)

http://sunday1967..co.uk/2013/03/christianity-of-greed-gospel-and.html

First and Last to comment sa...I think I make the record on nairaland sa?

magkhan: Op...are you saying that building an auditorium for the glory of God is not a worthy cause?
so it's better to just have a building where most worshipers will be exposed to nature hazard while worshipping God?
king David said 'God forbid that I should give the Lord something that cost me nothing '...
the pastor did not say steal and come donate,any who does that is only answerable to God...
Even if pastor Adeboye wants to build the biggest church in Africa,the gates of hell shall not prevail against him neither will it collapse because some people donate ill gotten money...
God said to Abraham if I Find 10 godly people,I will not destroy sodom...same with the church

I pity you.

Where is the money coming from "He" or "members"

@frosble,
Once again, I'm compelled to ask for your e-mail address. Well done.

Gombs:

Lemme address this issue of the "poor", "starving" etc. First of all, a nation of Christian believers are not the poor trying to be rich, they are the rich discovering their inheritance in Christ. In as much as you try to sugar coat it, the prosperity of the brethren is in their pastor/teacher/apostle/bishop etc according to 2 chronicles 20v20 King James Bible


You cannot prosper above your pastor. If your pastor hasn't prospered/prospered enough, you can't, so far he's the one teaching you, except you do stuffs outside God's word. So, if you believe God, you are established in the faith, but then, that's not enough for the good life here on earth (that's why suffering here on earth is a choice even when you believe God. Note that believing/agreeing the Word and confessing/doing the word are two different things. Believing God aint enough, because the bible says even the devil believes and tremble. You believe God AND speak what he spoke abt you and/or concerning anything. Anyways dats a topic for another day) but when you believe in your pastor/teacher/apostle (who God gave you as a gift in the first place so that you can do the work of the ministry -eph 4v7-11) IN THE LORD, you shall prosper. Now, where I'm driving at is dat if your pastor has prospered, and you follow his instructions in the Lord, you MUST
prosper. Heb 6v12 New International Version says

12 We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.

I've corrected the above in bold, but lemme tell you. You/We CANNOT prosper a MOG . Your tithe and offerings don't enter his pocket (I'm speaking of those I know of Adeboye, Oyedepo, Onyakhilome, Ibiyome, T.B Joshua etc). As for seeds, he through the Word, prospers you, then when you are led by the spirit, you sow seed(s) into his life, to tap into the annointing upon his life (Jesus collected seeds o, if you need scriptures lemme know). Now, are you saying that these men "Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths
of lions. Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens."(Heb 11v33-34), are you saying its tithe and offerings from members who you called poor, that prospered them? Where were you when they were praying? You were playing. When they were fasting, you were eating, when they were studying, you were on NL typing away, when they were on the streets winning souls to christ, where were you? Now, God's elevated and prospered them as he said in Josuha 1v 7-8, and you dare say they live off the 'poor' members? If thieves and the heathen can drive exotic cars, jets, eat like kings...pls explain to me why God's generals shouldn't.


According to your sensory perceptions. Thank God I know the bible.

@Gombs, u are lost. I feel sorry for u. If ur MOG has prospered above the brethren that he preaches to, why does he need the same brethren to fund N1b auditorium? There is no common sense in everything u wrote here. U think that God's generals should be allowed to live the lifestyle of a thief since the worthless thieves are able to live the same lifestyle. Well by ur logic, that will mean that the God's generals are thieves too if all they want to do is compete with thieves in terms of lifestyle. Well may be they actually are! U are not thinking before commenting Gombs.

Now if the OP's account of his experience is actually true, then it is ridiculous. If 10 ppl will donate N1b, that means 100milli per person. Who will donate 100 milli just like that to the church? If not the thieves that are stealing from our treasury? Which businessman who earned his money from hard work without shortcut will just donate 100milli for Adeboye? If u know one, mention his name right here and let's know who that is. The bottom line is that the church harbors thieves and Adeboye and co are accomplices. Bitter truth.

magkhan: Op...are you saying that building an auditorium for the glory of God is not a worthy cause?
so it's better to just have a building where most worshipers will be exposed to nature hazard while worshipping God?
king David said 'God forbid that I should give the Lord something that cost me nothing '...
the pastor did not say steal and come donate,any who does that is only answerable to God...
Even if pastor Adeboye wants to build the biggest church in Africa,the gates of hell shall not prevail against him neither will it collapse because some people donate ill gotten money...
God said to Abraham if I Find 10 godly people,I will not destroy sodom...same with the church

Shut your gut and read between the lines. OP stated clearely why he feels the pastor was wrong. You don't need to twist issues,we all know what Baba said 'see my personal secretary' was totally wrong.. The poor believes the only place they are equal is before God and when you begin to make such statements..it means they are nothing if they don't have money.

Yee shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

@op, why wasting your golding time when it has been written in the bible that "it shall be taken from poor and given to the rich" can you figure this out? or you want the word of our LORD to go in vain?
i want every right thinking nairalander to have it in mind that GOD has created the gullibles to benefit the smart few. Only the wise can locate and identify one another.

ogoamaka99: @ poster,
I can,t understand people, some has twisted thinking. You can never do things that they don,t find fault. If GO has requested everybody to donate for the building people will say that he is tasking poor members of the church for the building. Now he is using few people to do it people are complaining. Which one you dey?

Try to assimilate what the OP said first.

Don't comment if you didn't read the post.

Nonetheless, we need everyone’s involvement. If you can afford N50million, N20million, N5million, N1million to as low as N100, kindly make sure you participate. How many of you will build for the Lord?” All hands naturally went up in delirium.

Did this part disappear from your screen.

This is one of the most brilliant and relevant articles I've read on NL in a long while. I can't add anything to it, and there is certainly nothing to 'subtract' from it.

Let those who have brains use them, while those who have been brainwashed continue to live in their self-inflicted slavery. All I can say is that these pastors do not inspire any respect whatsoever. They are no better than con artistes.

frosbel: [size=13pt]Apostle Paul said :[/size]


9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.

11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;

12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you - 1 Corinthians 4:9-14


[size=14pt]Yet most of the so called Nigeria MOG cannot lick Paul's shoes when it comes to greatness.[/size]

And you left out verse 16

16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.


Sheer hypocrisy. Don't ever say we worship MOG...like I said, we imitate/copy/follow them as heb 6v12 asked us to.
Go study what he said in 2corinth 6v10
King James Bible
"As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making
many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all
things."

Question is why you still questioning whr the monies will come from?

You guys should check the bible... the house solomon buit for God was built with gold and everyone gave for the building.
nobody was forced to give, it is by willing heart. if you know you cant give for the house of God, then dont polute others.

Gombs:

And you left out verse 16

16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.


Sheer hypocrisy. Don't ever say we worship MOG...like I said, we imitate/copy/follow them as heb 6v12 asked us to.
Go study what he said in 2corinth 6v10
King James Bible
"As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making
many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all
things."

Question is why you still questioning whr the monies will come from?

and you keep copying their malpractices , that is why these false doctrines are replicating all over the place like a virulent disease.

SMH.

bknight: Can pastors adeboye, oyakhilome, ashimolowo, adeyemi etc carry handheld public address system and go with legs preaching under d rain and sun on d streets in some remote village somewhere?

what are you saying doesn't make sense at all. Everythng in life has levels. Maybe you don't know papa Adeboye and where his coming from?. Ignorance does kill 4 real. The man is more hard working thn any of you complaining of small money.
Leave men of God alone, thr have done the walking and all tht and now its thr time 2 be driven now. Do you thnk thr found thm selves in big building? Thr start was small and God has blessed them period.
Whr on earth have you grown a tree in a day? Its thr time let thm be. Leave thm alone. Let thm work 4 God. As for E.A Adeboye his a great pastor and his announcement was perfect,you dnt lik it ur headache!!!!!!

magkhan: Op...are you saying that building an auditorium for the glory of God is not a worthy cause?
so it's better to just have a building where most worshipers will be exposed to nature hazard while worshipping God?
king David said 'God forbid that I should give the Lord something that cost me nothing '...
the pastor did not say steal and come donate,any who does that is only answerable to God...
Even if pastor Adeboye wants to build the biggest church in Africa,the gates of hell shall not prevail against him neither will it collapse because some people donate ill gotten money...
God said to Abraham if I Find 10 godly people,I will not destroy sodom...same with the church

QED, gbam!

Youngzedd:

Try to assimilate what the OP said first.

Don't comment if you didn't read the post.

Nonetheless, we need everyone’s involvement. If you can afford N50million, N20million, N5million, N1million to as low as N100, kindly make sure you participate. How many of you will build for the Lord?” All hands naturally went up in delirium.

Did this part disappear from your screen.

This guy thinking faculty is blunt, he doesn't daddy GO as business man.

zig2ryme04: You guys should check the bible... the house solomon buit for God was built with gold and everyone gave for the building.
nobody is forced to give, it is by willing heart. if you know you cant give for the house of God, then dont polute others.

You already polluted us, because we saw the business venture of this one.

auto_freak2020: @op, why wasting your golding time when it has been written in the bible that "it shall be taken from poor and given to the rich" can you figure this out? or you want the word of our LORD to go in vain?
i want every right thinking nairalander to have it in mind that GOO has created the gullibles to benefit the smart few. Only the wise can locate and identify one another.

I already said it,out of the 500million MUMU in Nigeria,we now have 499million MUMU. minus me.

.

Many a Nigerian is blinded by religion especially the women folk - aint no use trying to re-educate them.

God bless u 4 dis report u are extremely right....pastors are business men with great competitions within themselves. they cant do d right thing, like u stated above, because they are falsely annointed ie Sauls in pathern(although d anointing was made by God)

nne3870: Gullible africans!
Raising money to build 'another' auditorium whereas more than 14million graduates are unemployed.
Why not organise a seminar to raise 1billion naira to empower the youths in his church?
May be after building the billion naira auditorium God himself will be so sad about the kind of money used to build it and God may never visit or recognise the road to the church.

Christians be wise and don't allow yourselves to be victims of this madness. If you want to sow seed, look for someone who really needs it and bless the soul, don't give it to ya pastor to build 'ANOTHER' auditorium.

Good n well said. In addition, people are so myopic, hw wuld u b dashin money 2adeboye n feel ure givin it 2God. Who can dispute d university thing. They are all scammers n christianity is so confused.