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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by sucess001(m): 12:42pm On Aug 26, 2013
I have refused to commen on this scandal till now.


Probably due to the response of the church.

I have noticed a trend about nigerians,both secular and men of God. They never admit to wrongdoing.

Compare that with americans- Rev. Jesse Jackson who was recently convicted of misuse of campaign funds.He owned up and apologized to Americans. Same thing for Marian Jones.


When you are accused of wrong and you are probably guilty, Nigerians never own up. they ll probly deny or 'ignore' like in this case and Sanusi lamido's case.

Unfortunately for the man of God, repentance and admission is key. It doesnt show weakness but a contrite heart. and that would show he respects the annointing and the God he worships. this is cos its not about him, but about God. Briefly look at Kirk Franking's admission during an interview of his addiction to Porn below;



KIRK FRANKLIN: It's weird because you're talking about the dude who was the minister of music at a church when I was 11. I have to check myself because there's an anger that rises up in me. I get evangelically ticked off by the fact that I wished somebody would have taught me a long time ago about the repercussions of sex and flesh and lust and vanity and pride and ego. I wished somebody would have been holding my little behind accountable years ago. But let me tell you what happens to the gifted. The gifted in the church slip right through.

SCOTT ROSS: Why?

KIRK FRANKLIN: Because the gifted are able to naturally and emotionally control the atmosphere of the service.

SCOTT ROSS: So we relate to you based on the gift rather than the man?

KIRK FRANKLIN: There you go, brother. No one asks the minister of music whether he's killing when everyone is crying and speaking in tongues. Nobody asks him, 'Are you going home tonight? How's your marriage? What's going on with you and your wife?' Nobody's holding the gifted accountable in the Body.


Being diplomatic isnt an answer to someone questioning your testimony. If you fell, admit it. thats wen you can move on.

It just like annanias and saphira after doing wat they did wrong to say 'we will reply in due time'

God's name is in question. Beyond your ego. Beyond you.

And to the church that kept 'clapping' for him...


A shame. We now have church members flocking after some 'word' when they can read the scriptures themselves. so what this means is that even if a pastor murders someone, the church will support him regardless.

I dont blame anyone supporting their pastor but am sure there is sometin wrong with supportin the pastor and spitting on the lessons the bible teaches. Selah

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by juman(m): 12:54pm On Aug 26, 2013
Hiss
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by juman(m): 12:57pm On Aug 26, 2013
nigeria is a fake country and nigerians are fake people.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by sucess001(m): 12:58pm On Aug 26, 2013
coogar:

he doesn't need to stoop low to address a serial pröstitute.


Jesus Christ 'stooped low' to adress the Samaritan woman (who was worse than a prostitute).(John 4:17& 18)

So if you consider yourself or any pastor too 'big' to address any of God's Creation, then its not Jesus you worship.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Tayeni(m): 1:05pm On Aug 26, 2013
sucess001:

Being diplomatic isnt an answer to someone questioning your testimony. If you fell, admit it. thats wen you can move on.

It just like annanias and saphira after doing wat they did wrong to say 'we will reply in due time'

God's name is in question. Beyond your ego. Beyond you.

And to the church that kept 'clapping' for him...


A shame. We now have church members flocking after some 'word' when they can read the scriptures themselves. so what this means is that even if a pastor murders someone, the church will support him regardless.

I dont blame anyone supporting their pastor but am sure there is sometin wrong with supportin the pastor and spitting on the lessons the bible teaches. Selah
you never could hv put it better than that......I won't b suprised if pple still follow sheepishly if a pastor murders someone......I'm sure them go still ask that goofy question "who made you judge?"
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Nobody: 1:36pm On Aug 26, 2013
Pra¥er can never take the place of the fruit of the Spirit ; ¥ou need the Word.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by nora544: 1:57pm On Aug 26, 2013
Read the story of pastor Dt Albert Odulele, what he makes, it happen in UK so he has to go to Jail, he will preach at the first of September in Lagos.

The court heard how Odulele, 47, initially denied any wrongdoing after he was arrested last summer by the Metropolitan Police’s Major Child Abuse Investigation Unit.

But he later admitted to police that he had been ‘battling’ with his sexuality for years. He denied the offences were pre-planned.

Glory House International has been a registered charity for 18 years and has a turnover of £2 million a year.

I for one am glad that this has come to light because I believe that so many times, some of us hold leaders up high in an unhealthy way and never question what the the ‘man of God’ says. I have heard some of his messages and it is normally your typical doctrine revolving around prosperity, wealth transfer, self fulfillment, blessings, dominion now and everything else relating to the “What God has for you” doctrine.

Many Christians will be throwing out the ‘judge not’ line and will want to pretend that this stuff doesnt happen in Christendom but as Jesus said, you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free (John 8:32). Adversely, that means that if you dont know the truth (or chose not to) , then you will be kept in bondage. Hopefully this will help people to have their eyes opened and say goodbye to the untouchable preachers.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Efiko(m): 2:09pm On Aug 26, 2013
THERE IS STILL A PLACE FOR GENUINE REPENTANCE & RESTITUTIONIN IN THE KINGDOM, RATHER THAN TYING TO WAVE-OFF/COVER-UP INIQUITY which is a higher sin (a Pastor manipulating & sleeping with the soul God entrusted him to shepherd to heaven) with "spiros"/plenty grammer
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by lasrondo: 2:32pm On Aug 26, 2013
You chop YAM . Yes or No?

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by amaechijay: 4:33pm On Aug 26, 2013
Na so God go dey catch una one by one.

Fake Pastors!

Finally, girls wey get liver don dey speak up.

As for me, I have experienced something close to this three times in the hands of General Overseers but decided to keep mute.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Blazinraj01(f): 4:38pm On Aug 26, 2013
Tolexander: don't you know coogar before?
Always interested in arguing even when it is wrong. Check his record.
Here is one here:
https://www.nairaland.com/1229500/what-call-domesticated-fowl-dialect
I checked it out and I couldn't help but laugh. The guy is a CASE. cheesy
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Rdduite(m): 4:45pm On Aug 26, 2013
Blazinraj01:
I checked it out and I couldn't help but laugh. The guy is a CASE. cheesy

Big case! As old as he is! Just wondering when he'l get sense 2 learn hw 2 wise up & stop unnecesary arguments & unwarrented insults on pple!

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by ladenz(m): 4:57pm On Aug 26, 2013
36STATES: I think its time we all march down to that brothel called coza church to rescue those sex slaves and brainwashed folks and knock that place down for good. This love-vendor pastor biodun should not go free to continue his abuse and scamming of hard up folks in the name of fake miracles. Pentecoastal churches should be restricted along with other muslim extreemist groups,...they're up to no good.

I am 36states, I support this massage

yes yes. after reading through all these arguments i need a massage too. cool
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Afroconnect: 5:00pm On Aug 26, 2013
Nigeria is a phoney society-people will see black and call it white.
should we be decieving ourselves and lying before God because of the fear of a pastor?
Pastor is not God,any pastor that does not live righteously has erred and should be corrected.
Why are we always saying
Dont judge-touch not my anointed...does God anoint fornicators/adulterers and thieves?
Nigerians are stupid and very fake people-we can not develop if we keep to run away from the truth.disgusting.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Built2last: 5:53pm On Aug 26, 2013
SPEECHLESS
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by jpphilips(m): 6:48pm On Aug 26, 2013
ROSYL: Yes, where runs girls meet runs men.Nonsense, what else did we xpect?

Ese get money to go pay school fees for London, she no be like runs girl, but definitely, sex starved.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by jpphilips(m): 6:53pm On Aug 26, 2013
Nashville:

Point is that you are almost 100% certain he is innocent. If Pastor Biodun were guilty, he would not wait for pictures, documents etc to be produced. He will quickly try to settle with Efe before those documents come out. Settling will be his best interest. If pastor Biodun were innocent then there will never be documents, pictures etc, so he would come out and challenge Efe to produce such. The fact that he is not challenging Efe suggest there might be proof and his advisers are trying to know what kind of proof there is.

There have been several of such allegations in the past, Odulele, Eddie Long etc, they usually start with denial/silence then acceptance/settlement. Unfortunately the silence here is following the Odulele trend. I hope for the body of Christ this is false but my gut tells me something happened.


if na me chop this ese, i swear, i will not complain, only that i will cover my ogene with the blood of Abacha
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by MsSantaClaus(f): 7:07pm On Aug 26, 2013
nora544: Read the story of pastor Dt Albert Odulele, what he makes, it happen in UK so he has to go to Jail, he will preach at the first of September in Lagos.

The court heard how Odulele, 47, initially denied any wrongdoing after he was arrested last summer by the Metropolitan Police’s Major Child Abuse Investigation Unit.

But he later admitted to police that he had been ‘battling’ with his sexuality for years. He denied the offences were pre-planned.

Glory House International has been a registered charity for 18 years and has a turnover of £2 million a year.

I for one am glad that this has come to light because I believe that so many times, some of us hold leaders up high in an unhealthy way and never question what the the ‘man of God’ says. I have heard some of his messages and it is normally your typical doctrine revolving around prosperity, wealth transfer, self fulfillment, blessings, dominion now and everything else relating to the “What God has for you” doctrine.

Many Christians will be throwing out the ‘judge not’ line and will want to pretend that this stuff doesnt happen in Christendom but as Jesus said, you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free (John 8:32). Adversely, that means that if you dont know the truth (or chose not to) , then you will be kept in bondage. Hopefully this will help people to have their eyes opened and say goodbye to the untouchable preachers.

No problem, let him come and preach but I will see who in the " touch not my anointed" gang, that will send their children to see him in private! Stupid hypocrites ! As long as it happened to someone else abi? Nonsense!

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by thepo(m): 8:00pm On Aug 26, 2013
smiley[quote author=pro01]Such circumlocution is nonsensical, why not address the MAIN allegation squarely? Did you f**k the lady in question, yes or no? Is there a "level of grace" that you claimed you would have taught her, yes or no?

Wetin concern us with these meaningless roundabout tweets, dragging God's name into your debauchery. These filthy bàstards masquerading as pastors are too disgusting for words to describe. tongue
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by touchmeder: 8:20pm On Aug 26, 2013

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by biolabee(m): 8:34pm On Aug 26, 2013
posts like this are the reason why pastor cozzy shd either deny the allegation if untrue or confess and seek redemption...


its causing huge travails for the Church...

private jets, prosperity gospellers, fornicators etc bla bla bla


God dey try,,,


Erelu_Y: Typical warped Nigerian mentality and self-delusion. It's a shame that rather than advocate that this ‘pastor’ should come clean, some Nigerians are trying to exonerate him. Rather than provide an astute rebuttal of Ese Walter's claim, all this 'pastor' can come up with is "God told me not to speak". Helloooooooo, this is the reason why Nigeria, eternally, would remain doomed. And, when the time comes, Nigerian churches would fall into the same trap and crap that the church in the western hemisphere had fallen into: monumental decay and disrepair—both physically and spiritually!

It takes a bold, brave, educated and full emancipated female of Ms Walter's caliber to come out to the open to make this sort of declaration. Considering also Ese’s level of education, professionalism and exposure, and the consciousness that if her claims were to be established as untrue, then she would be liable to answer for a libel, she definitely wouldn't have come out to the open. I, however, only wished, she had one more round of this amorous liaison with this so-called 'pastor', fully audio-visually taped before blowing it all up. This is a call to all Nigerian women who had been (or are still being) abused (in churches, schools, colleges, universities, private and public offices, etc) to come out to the open and stop being ashamed or intimated. men perpetuating this sort of degrading habits are the one who should be disgraced. This is the 21st century CE. And, this ‘pastor’ is not a one-off. His type exists in Nigerian colleges and universities, the judiciary, armed forces, public and private sectors, and of course, in all church denominations, and within other faith traditions (Islam, African Traditional Religion, etc). But, these, at least do not espouse monogamy. I used to be a Christian. But, once, I discovered the antics of the men of the clothes; once I realised the emptiness of the church; once I understand that religion is a scam; once it dawned on me that the Hebrew Bible contains nothing but folklore; in short, once I became enlightened, I turned my back on religion, and freed myself from its shackles.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by biolabee(m): 8:36pm On Aug 26, 2013
if he accepts yes,,, he shd go for a time in the wilderness to seek redemption

he shd not be on the pulpit for a season... remember nebuchadnezzer n wale oke

modupsie:

and after the yes or no answer, what next?
what do u stand to gain? will that free efe or change the damage done to his family by both of them.
am not supporting anyone but whats this craze abt him answering.
if he says yes, what wud you do?
are you God that wud forgive him or how will it affect anyone of us and does that imply he wud change or be renewed?
also if he says no, what will it change?
pls lets leave the 2 of them to God!
one thing i av learnt in life is that either u are a pastor or church goer if you admit your sin to God not the internet, He is filled with unconditional love towards us and would forgive.
we all can condemn ese and pastor biodun, if they both obtain mercy and move on with their relationship with God , then they have a straight ticket to heaven even if the whole cyber world condemns both of them.
so my dear work out your own salvation. the theif on the right side was condemned by the world Jesus saved him
only God knows what happened to those that crucified him in eternity.

when someone sorts out himself or herself with God, y'all can continue your bashing on both ese and pastor or support one party against the other. bottom line is they av been forgiven and God has forgotten about their mistakes.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by biolabee(m): 8:40pm On Aug 26, 2013
amaechijay: Na so God go dey catch una one by one.

Fake Pastors!

Finally, girls wey get liver don dey speak up.

As for me, I have experienced something close to this three times in the hands of General Overseers but decided to keep mute.


pls name the GOs and their churches,,, it could help stop proliferation of these mushroom churches..........

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by brownmang(m): 9:27pm On Aug 26, 2013
That pastor is fake..... He should either comment directly or leave it.......there is a truth in what Ese said, and in every nonsense there is always a sense.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Brainiacmrtolz(m): 10:58pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mr pastor biodun, diz ur nigga Brainiac. Nw answer me diz " DID U F**K DAT B**CH OR WAT?

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Brainiacmrtolz(m): 11:04pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mr pastor biodun, diz ur nigga Brainiac. Nw answer me diz " DID U F**K DAT B**CH OR WAT? undecided Well i cant categorically gv u an answer nw n my Oga @ d top wil tell u anoda tin... find answers on our website on; ww.coza. hmm hmm! lipsrsealed

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by lee007(m): 11:16pm On Aug 26, 2013

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by joseph1832(m): 12:07am On Aug 27, 2013
spicy v:

I weep for your generation! And someone will sometime in the future refer to you as a Father? Lawda mercy.
Actually I honestly weep for this generation cause some nincompoops are busy allowing themselves to be brainwashed and also celebrating some so called men of God who can't keep the pudenda solely in the place it's meant to be. Believe it or not.

Spicy V you belong to this generation thus you should weep more than the bereaved cause people like you are the ones giving christianity a very bad name.

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Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Nobody: 12:18am On Aug 27, 2013
Why is the pastor posting so much words that really say nothing about his culpability in the allegations?
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by joseph1832(m): 12:35am On Aug 27, 2013
sucess001: I have refused to commen on this scandal till now.


Probably due to the response of the church.

I have noticed a trend about nigerians,both secular and men of God. They never admit to wrongdoing.

Compare that with americans- Rev. Jesse Jackson who was recently convicted of misuse of campaign funds.He owned up and apologized to Americans. Same thing for Marian Jones.


When you are accused of wrong and you are probably guilty, Nigerians never own up. they ll probly deny or 'ignore' like in this case and Sanusi lamido's case.

Unfortunately for the man of God, repentance and admission is key. It doesnt show weakness but a contrite heart. and that would show he respects the annointing and the God he worships. this is cos its not about him, but about God. Briefly look at Kirk Franking's admission during an interview of his addiction to Porn below;



KIRK FRANKLIN: It's weird because you're talking about the dude who was the minister of music at a church when I was 11. I have to check myself because there's an anger that rises up in me. I get evangelically ticked off by the fact that I wished somebody would have taught me a long time ago about the repercussions of sex and flesh and lust and vanity and pride and ego. I wished somebody would have been holding my little behind accountable years ago. But let me tell you what happens to the gifted. The gifted in the church slip right through.

SCOTT ROSS: Why?

KIRK FRANKLIN: Because the gifted are able to naturally and emotionally control the atmosphere of the service.

SCOTT ROSS: So we relate to you based on the gift rather than the man?

KIRK FRANKLIN: There you go, brother. No one asks the minister of music whether he's killing when everyone is crying and speaking in tongues. Nobody asks him, 'Are you going home tonight? How's your marriage? What's going on with you and your wife?' Nobody's holding the gifted accountable in the Body.


Being diplomatic isnt an answer to someone questioning your testimony. If you fell, admit it. thats wen you can move on.

It just like annanias and saphira after doing wat they did wrong to say 'we will reply in due time'

God's name is in question. Beyond your ego. Beyond you.

And to the church that kept 'clapping' for him...


A shame. We now have church members flocking after some 'word' when they can read the scriptures themselves. so what this means is that even if a pastor murders someone, the church will support him regardless.

I dont blame anyone supporting their pastor but am sure there is sometin wrong with supportin the pastor and spitting on the lessons the bible teaches. Selah
Excellently said my friend. The word Pastor has been murdered in Nigeria.
Re: Pastor Biodun/Coza Replies Ese Walter's Sex Scandal Accusation by Pattey(m): 12:47am On Aug 27, 2013
coogar:

this is what i would expect from a stark illiterate with poop for brain cells. a young woman cannot come out in the open and cook up a story? did portiphar's wife not do the same? i am sure if you were alive then, a troglodyte like yourself would have judged joseph & sent him to an early grave.

let's even forget the bible....
what about the hotel maid that made up a blatant lie against the IMF boss that she was attacked? was she not a young woman? honestly, it's becoming ever clear that your education was a waste of investment.

Was Portipha's wife raped by Joseph? Was thr intercourse of any kind? So, wt wud she hav been ashamed of? Eventho it was al false, if it were true, ur evidently suggesting sexual abuse shud be a wound women get to lick in private. Ryt?

U must be feeling so fly with that ur miniature brain. What a waste of sperm! #biological waste#

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