macof: pls tell me one or two prophesies in the OT dat was fulfilled in NT with the aid of Bible verses

lahchi:

If the Law of the isralites were good and would save sin why would God send His Son to give us another law and bring Christianity to us? Tithe was for the Israelites and not to be paid or observed by Christians even those people who claim to pay tithe don't pay it the way God asked the israelites to pay it. 2 Corinthians 9:6 tells us how to give, I don't seem to understand what you tithers don't seem to understand or is it that you refuse to study your bible and confirm what you are been taught or told? Or is that you just see the person being called the Man of God as a truthfull person without confirming what he tells you to be true? Do not be ignorant of the facts and truth about tithing beacuse you would give account on the last day.

lahchi: The bible says "he who has ears let him hear." I am a member of the Church of Christ and am sending my greeting(Romans 16:16) to those who are ready to take the 5 steps (Hear, Believ, Repent, Confess and be Baptised) of salvation and added to the church by the Lord (Acts 2:47).

truthislight:

this is what offering for christians is :

"By him therefore let us offer(offering) the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name." (Hebrews 13:15).

Tithing is not for christians just as our lips do the offering instead of using animal.

Sal C: You are getting it wrong. The NT is the fulfilment of OT prophecies, therefore there's nothing wrong with the OT being part of the bible.

The problem arises when preacher decide to cherry-pick the teachings of the OT just to suit themselves.

Sal C: You are getting it wrong. The NT is the fulfilment of OT prophecies, therefore there's nothing wrong with the OT being part of the bible.

The problem arises when preacher decide to cherry-pick the teachings of the OT just to suit themselves.

macof: This thread just supports my post on "the old testament is not part of christianity" and thank God some people share my view. I thought every so called Christian has been brainwashed. Tithes is of the OT and Christians shouldn't follow, am sure those people who added OT to the Christian Bible weren't even Christians, they must have been Roman pagans who thought everything religious from Israel is all the same. And so called men of God these days are happy to see "pay your tithes and offerings" in the Bible. why did they not request for animal burnt sacrifice? Abi dat one is evil? Since some African religions do dat and they say it's evil. Jesus teaching alone I follow and not Moses or Malachi when am nt a Jew

Joagbaje:

Tithing is forever . Offerings is forever , prayer is forever,worship is forever because they are kingdom principles. And principles in God are eternal

lahchi:
Show me just a simple scripture that entails a detail of the Early Christians paying tithe.

Joagbaje:

Firstly ,tithing was never abolished in the bible , secondly the primary ways the work of ministry was sponsored in he Old Testament was through tithes and offerings . Paul made it clear that similar things should apply in the church .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Tithing and offerings are Paralell principles which both existed before he law. God reprimanded isreal for not giving him tithes and offerings. God never put an end to the two. You can't say you will give only offerings and not give tithes. If you give offerings without seeing it as obligation under the law ,you should give itches also . And if a man says he won't give an offering to God ,he is really sick.

Joagbaje:

Firstly ,tithing was never abolished in the bible , secondly the primary ways the work of ministry was sponsored in he Old Testament was through tithes and offerings . Paul made it clear that similar things should apply in the church .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Tithing and offerings are Paralell principles which both existed before he law. God reprimanded isreal for not giving him tithes and offerings. God never put an end to the two. You can't say you will give only offerings and not give tithes. If you give offerings without seeing it as obligation under the law ,you should give itches also . And if a man says he won't give an offering to God ,he is really sick.

macof:

There's no cherry-pick if u trust the OT as ur holy book follow everything u see in it. If u trust the NT follow everything in it. But I tell u if u drift frm one rule in any of them u have sinned. Know that some rules in both are contradicting, so which do u rather follow? Think my fellow, the OT is the word of God but not a Christianic word of God but a Jewish one.

macof: pls tell me one or two prophesies in the OT dat was fulfilled in NT with the aid of Bible verses

Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;

Joagbaje:

You're wrong , worshiping God is not complete without giving to God . There are different kinds of offerings , our body, our works , our lips etc but they don't take the place of our substance we give in sacrifice .

Joagbaje:

Tithing is forever . Offerings is forever , prayer is forever,worship is forever because they are kingdom principles. And principles in God are eternal

Joagbaje:

Firstly ,tithing was never abolished in the bible , secondly the primary ways the work of ministry was sponsored in he Old Testament was through tithes and offerings . Paul made it clear that similar things should apply in the church .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

lahchi:
Show me just a simple scripture that entails a detail of the Early Christians paying tithe ?

macof: what am saying is that it's not an obligation. God doesn't force or compel people to do things, he gave us free will. And as such when u feel u have enough to offer to the temple of God and spread of the gospel you give as ur heart desires not by force. It was in OT that tithe was by force. Offerings and free service to the church and continuous evangelism is wat tithe represent in true christianity

lahchi:
Why did you neglect 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 "But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work." Dis doesn't have any form of tithing attached to it, why?

Joagbaje:

Tithing is an eternal principle ,just as prayers, almsgiving,offerings, worship, fasting etc. all these kingdom principles have nothing to do with Israel . They are part of Gods kingdom. It preceded the emergence of the nation of isreal. Abraham was not an isrealite .he was the father of faith , He was a tither a. If we are children of Abraham then we ought to follow the faith of Abraham.. God never stoped tithing ,it's an eternal principle .

macof: what am saying is that it's not an obligation. God doesn't force or compel people to do things, he gave us free will. And as such when u feel u have enough to offer to the temple of God and spread of the gospel you give as ur heart desires not by force. It was in OT that tithe was by force. Offerings and free service to the church and continuous evangelism is wat tithe represent in true christianity

ogorluv:
Correction, Abraham did not tithe his profit, but he gave of the spoils of war and kept nothing for himself. Read your bible so as to understand your faith better.

truthislight:

you see your life !

The question was :



but you post something else.

You see why i call you a fraud ?

Are you saying that the early christians and the apostles did not know how the temple work was finance in the OT ?

The OT clearly recorded how the Jews payed their tithes, but the apostles set a different partan for christians that they should give voluntarily, but you twister of the word for selfish reasons said it is tithe that was never asked of early christians.

Keep deceiving yourself.

You better come and show where christians are asked to pay tithe, which was the question that you were asked.

If all christians are to be preachers, who will pay tithe to who ? Dont you know God is wise ?

No wonder you put people in darkness so that you can exploit them.

The command was for all to be disciples and make more disciples.

The Offering is a sacrifice of lips > preaching bringing men to God > fishers of men.

Kenny4lyfe:

You sound like you've already had your mind made-up as far as this tithing issue is concerned!

Let me bring this to your knowledge!

You're a seed of Abraham right?
An inheritor of the Abrahamic blessing, not so?
Abraham was the father of faith yet, he paid tithe to Melchizedek king of Salem the priest of The Most High - Genesis 14:18-20.

This happened before The Law;

The Law came through Moses yet tithing remained- Deuteronomy 12:11, Malachi 3:10.

Then came Jesus Christ of whom it was spoken before hand that, "...Thou hath priest forever after the order of Melchizedek!"-Psalm 110:4.

This means that the priesthood of Jesus Christ is forever and it's fashioned after the order of Melchizedek; a ministry of which we are partakers by virtue of Christ in us; remember He's the vine and we are the branches. So, Jesus our High Priest still accept tithes, offerings and seeds because it's a function of His office.

Read Hebrew 7:15-16

God bless us all!

Joagbaje:

The booty was his profit. He did whatever he wanted with it. If you like you can give your tithe and dash the rest away , it's personal choice .

Pastor Kun:

So you know that Abraham did whatever he wanted with his booty and he wasn't acting based on God's instruction neither was it a religious obligation. So why don't you leave believers to do whatever they like with their income? Why must you lie to them that God demands 10% of their income

truthislight:

but you post something else.

You see why i call you a fraud ?

Are you saying that the early christians and the apostles did not know how the temple work was finance in the OT ?

The OT clearly recorded how the Jews payed their tithes, but the apostles set a different partan for christians that they should give voluntarily, but you twister of the word for selfish reasons said it is tithe that was never asked of early christians.

Keep deceiving yourself.

You better come and show where christians are asked to pay tithe, which was the question that you were asked.

If all christians are to be preachers, who will pay tithe to who ? Dont you know God is wise ?

No wonder you put people in darkness so that you can exploit them.

The command was for all to be disciples and make more disciples.

The Offering is a sacrifice of lips > preaching bringing men to God > fishers of men.

lahchi:

Did you read my post before commenting on it? Did you read the quote of the person I posted the post to? I was just make him see that tithe was not made for christians and even the early christian never took the pattern because they were were not made up of only jews but also the gentiles, so what were you driving at calling me a fraud when am also against the tithe been paid? You have to check and understand the words of the post you want to comment on before commenting on it, okay?

Pastor Kun:

So you know that Abraham did whatever he wanted with his booty

and he wasn't acting based on God's instruction neither was it a religious obligation

So why don't you leave believers to do whatever they like with their income?

Why must you lie to them that God demands 10% of their income

lahchi:
Why did you neglect 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 "But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work." Dis doesn't have any form of tithing attached to it, why?

Joagbaje:

That was only in the issue of giving back to the king of sodom the booty. Not in the issue of tithe. Tithe is a principle ,and he didnt fail to give God that .

Joagbaje:

I didn't neglect it. It's not relevant to tithing. That's a different kind of giving. They were contributing for a project. There are different kinds of giving in the bible . Offerings,tithes,alms, projects ,parents,etc we must do them all