Debroslink:
Why are you then obeying God's commandments? Is it not to make heaven and avoid hell?

Baybe: Just obey God's commandments and stop thinking about heaven and hell

otijah: @op will u shut up b4 u incure Gods wrath upon urself
and ur Generations, if u like keep talking rubbish and believing rubbish, let me tell u ar entering hell straight no hold up for road.

Debroslink:
Why are you then obeying God's commandments? Is it not to make heaven and avoid hell?

infonubia: [ It's a long read.. Please, I promise it wouldn't take more than 10 minutes ]

If I ask whose report would you believe? Without knowing what am talking about, your religious mind will simply say "I believe the report of the LORD".

Unfortunately, that is not true on several matters. And one of such matters is that of life after death.s (who are renown) they saw in hell.

Well, I choose to believe the report of the Lord as recorded in his word (the Bible). Not the test
Yes I'm aware that KJV translated v. 23 to say "in hell" instead of "in Hades (the realm of the dead)". Revelation 20, will clear the air, that the devil goes in there first, AFTER the beast and false prophet then death and Hades and then others whose names were not found written in the book of life. Please read Revelation Chapter 20 - 22 to get more clarity on this.

5. It surprises me that some Christians, now need somewhat testimonies to know who goes where, and themselves are not even sure of their own destination.

Maybe this could be of help this morning:

a. No one is condemned or judged because they are SINNERS. Every man is condemned because primarily he/she REJECT God's provision for SIN. These are not my word have sent." -- John 17:3
These are things that gives me assurance that if I close my eyes in death today, I will open them with the Lord! Not somewhat testimonies.

Then someone may then ask me, "are these people telling a LIE?" Well, I don't know.

What I know is "let God be found true, though every man be found a liar..." I would rather believe God's word than man's testimonies that can change tomorrow. What if they wake up tomorrow to change the testimonies? What happened to those whose faith is anchored on such?

If all these testimonies have no correlation with God's word, I can't believe them.
..And when the people [instead of putting their trust in God] shall say to you, Consult for direction mediums and wizards who chirp and mutter, should not a people seek and consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living? [Direct such people] to the teaching and to the testimony! If their teachings are not in accord with this word, it is surely because there is no dawn and no morning for them." -- Isaiah 8:19-20

.....Stories And Testimonies. -- Join this with the title of this write up. I got you...

Happy New Month!

Timothy Adigun

http://www.infonubia.com/2013/08/why-i-dont-believe-in-heaven-and-hell.html

Baybe: Just obey God's commandments and stop thinking about heaven and hell

Donalð Genes:
Simple obey God and believe Jesus Christ died for your sins, my sins, our sins, everybody's sins..and walk according to laws' you don't need someone to tell you this, you're matured enough to know all this___ask yourself where do you get that oxygen you're breathing with? do you think everything you see in this life just wake up and exist just like that?
'if anyone feels like twisting the bible, That's her his or her own cup of tea, Judgement i shall be judge according to my deeds, same as anybody else.

Profbrian: Jesus words are Faithful and true... Read the bible. Meditate it an reflect upon it lest at any time thy be decieved........ My prayer is that may His grace shine upon us cos without it we wont be able to live a holy life that is required for heaven... Someone pls help me tell the catholics that purgatory doesnt exist.. Repent now before its too late

Baybe: Just obey God's commandments and stop thinking about heaven and hell

Gombs:

Phil 2v12

Amplified Bible (AMP)
12 Therefore, my dear ones, as you have always obeyed [my suggestions], so now, not only [with the enthusiasm you would show] in my presence but much more because I am absent, [size=32pt] work out (cultivate, carry out to the goal, and fully complete) your own salvation with reverence and awe and trembling (self-distrust, with serious caution, tenderness of conscience, watchfulness against temptation, timidly shrinking from whatever might offend God and discredit the name of Christ). [/size]


New Living Translation
Dear friends, you always followed my instructions
when I was with you. And now that I am away, it is
even more important. Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.

King James Bible
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed,
not as in my presence only, but now much more in my
absence, work out your own salvation with fear and
trembling.

NET Bible
So then, my dear friends, just as you have always
obeyed, not only in my presence but even more in my
absence, continue working out your salvation with awe and reverence,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Therefore beloved, just as you have always obeyed,
not when I am near to you only, but now when I am
far from you, all the more, with awe and with
trembling, do the service of your life.


If you wanna debate it, open another thread and invite me.

@Heaven and Hell tin, don't get your stand point, and the heading is misleading...are you simply saying YOU DON'T BELIVE in HEAVEN and HELL? No vex... Be more clearer

ifeness:

REDICULOUS !!!