quivah: are you then saying atheists are the mr B ?
Last time I check,its you religious people who portrays mr B's personality.

Appliedmaths.:


Sweerie I didn't refer to mr B as the atheist , and moreover you didn't answer the question above; is it justifiable for both the two men to end up in the same place?

Appliedmaths.:


Sweerie I didn't refer to mr B as the atheist , and moreover you didn't answer the question above; is it justifiable for both the two men to end up in the same place?

Javanian: Theist: Are the good people on earth?
Atheist: Yes

Theist: Are they bad people on earth?
Atheist: Yes.

Theist: So you see, there must be heaven and hell
Atheist: who goes to the heaven? Good people or bad people?
Theist: Only those who believe in Jesus, being good or bad wont take you to heaven

Makes Sense

quivah:
shooo!!".
You see how injustice this is!
So a muslim,who believed so well in his own religion.. seeing many reasons to hold on to islam,keeping cool and fflg God's words still wont make heaven cause he dint believe in Jesus?...
Well christains,you gotta be afraid now...cause islam might be the true religion after all..
Or both will be dammed if budhism is the way.. tsw!!

Mr Troll: You asked a question and then before anybody answers you say that heaven and earth is real and that jesus is the only way. So what exactly are you looking for?

Mr Troll: You asked a question and then before anybody answers you say that heaven and earth is real and that jesus is the only way. So what exactly are you looking for?

You also make a claim that humans have a...soul

3 claims without any shred of empirical evidence yet you expect logical answers. Bro, pls go read logic101. No oofeinsee!

Appliedmaths.:




Last I checked I did philosophy and logic when I was in 100L and that was like 2years +, so my friend if you have any "emperical" proof bring it ON!. I have made my claims, so open the fora for yours.

Mr Troll: I should provide proof for your claim? What are you ON about?

Uyi Iredia: Whereva my grandfada, great grandfada and great-great grand fada went after death is where I'll go, if it turns out to be hell, so be it although I don't think so.

you don't think so
Please don't forget the verse your brethren dropped

Appliedmaths.:


John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said; "most assuredly I say unto you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of GOD".

Ray McBlue: @Appliedmaths, your body decomposes (or is cremated), and goes back to the earth. That’s all.

A lot of people find that depressing and use that as a reason for believing in god, but they’re confusing their desires with reality.

What you believe does not change what happens after you die. If god does not exist, then there is no afterlife, and that’s just the way it is.

quivah:
tell them!!!!
The thing is,they just don't wanna admit theres no god!..

Doc_Miss: Prove to Me there's no God

1. Try praying

2. Statistically analyze prayer

3. Look at all historical gods

4. Think about science

5. Read the Bible

6. Ponder God's plan

7. Understand religious delusion

8. Think about Near Death Experiences

9. Understand ambiguity

10. Watch the offering plate

11. Notice that there is no scientific
evidence

12. See the magic

13. Take a look at slavery

14. Examine Jesus' miracles

15. Examine Jesus' resurrection

16. Contemplate the contradictions

17. Think about Leprechauns

18. Imagine heaven

19. Notice that you ignore Jesus

20. Notice your church

21. Understand Jesus' core message

22. Count all the people God wants to
murder

23. Listen to the Doxology

24. Ask why religion causes so many
problems

25. Understand evolution and abiogenesis

26. Notice that the Bible's author is not
"all-knowing"

27. Think about life after death

28. Notice how many gods you reject

29. Think about communion

30. Examine God's sexism

31. Understand that religion is superstition

32. Talk to a theologian

33. Contemplate the crucifixion

34. Examine your health insurance policy

35. Notice Jesus' myopia

36. Realize that God is impossible

37. Think about DNA

38. Contemplate the divorce rate among
Christians

39. Realize that Jesus was a jerk

40. Understand Christian motivations

41. Flip a coin

42. Listen when "God talks"

43. Realize that a "hidden God" is
impossible

44. Think about a Christian housewife

45. Consider Noah's Ark

46. Ponder Pascal's Wager

47. Contemplate Creation

48. Compare prayer to a lucky horseshoe

49. Look at who speaks for God

50. Ask Jesus to appear

Doc_Miss: The Perfect Balance In Nature Proves there's a God that did not Only create it but also Sustains it

Appliedmaths.:



I asked a question with an illustration; as humans when we die do the good people and also the bad people end up the same way, or rather do the good and bad people end up in the same place? No hard feelings bro, we're just rubbing minds.

Doc_Miss: ………

Ray McBlue: @Appliedmaths, your body decomposes (or is cremated), and goes back to the earth. That’s all.

A lot of people find that depressing and use that as a reason for believing in god, but they’re confusing their desires with reality.

What you believe does not change what happens after you die. If god does not exist, then there is no afterlife, and that’s just the way it is.

Mr Troll: let me break it down for you...
You asked a loaded question: where do good and bad people go when they die? That is already an assumption that they go somewhere I.e heaven or hell in your case. What I'm asking you is to provide evidence, empirical evidence that:
1) We have a separate soul
2) There's an after death place called heaven or hell where your supposed soul goes to.

Until you do that, I won't take you serious.

Ray McBlue: I'm not here to make pointless arguments. It's pretty simple, really. When life ends, everything switches off forever. Take it or leave it.

Appliedmaths.:


I want to believe that at one point or the other we have come across those nollywood movies where the fellow dies and the spirit comes out of the body and starts roaming about, if I'm not mistaken I think "Bill cosby" acted something like that. You can call that imagination but I tell you those movie guys are almost close to the real thing.

Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Genesis 2:7 : "The Lord God formed man of
the dust of the ground, and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life; and man became a
living soul.

Matthew 16:26 : "For what is a
man profited, if he shall gain the
whole world, and lose his own
soul".

Psalm 42:1 As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.

When we die our earthly bodies goes back to the ground as dusts but our souls becomes answerable to God.

Hebrews9:27-28 Just as people are destined to die once,
and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ
was sacrificed once to take away the sins of
many; and he will appear a second time, not to
bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who
are waiting for him.

The earthly court of law is just a replica of the heavenly court, God is a man of justice and he pays everyman according to his works.

Galatians 6:7 ASV
American Standard Version
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also
reap. How ever this relates to the earthly law of karma.