Image123:

hehehehe. It would be fair to say that you are wasting your faith on yourself.

No I'm not. If you don't have faith in yourself, simply say so.

mcfynest: i am quite not in the mood to type much.....

FIRST- SEA IN THE BIBLE MEANS A MASS OF PEOPLE. Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the LovePeddler sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

2. FISH OF THE SEA MEANS THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES... i guess you just need to understamd grn ch 1 to get this properly.

now, equipped with this facts, lets roll...

Jonah 1:4 But the LORD sent out a wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.


NOW, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THIS VERSE BELOW RIGHT

Mark 4:37 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.

read the story again and read mark 4:36 to the end then you should be able to decipher the rest.

You guys will read anything into anything. So Jonah and his fellow sailors were sailing ships on the head of gentiles?

thehomer:

You guys will read anything into anything. So Jonah and his fellow sailors were sailing ships on the head of gentiles?

hmmmm....flesh and bone hath not revealed this unto you
....

so you believe the story of noah on the sea in an ark with all kinds of animals LITERALLY SMH FOR YOU

thehomer:

No I'm not. If you don't have faith in yourself, simply say so.

So you do have faith?

R u nw saying Naoh's Arc is Allegorical? Aw abt Archaeological records ?

mcfynest:

hmmmm....flesh and bone hath not revealed this unto you
....

so you believe the story of noah on the sea in an ark with all kinds of animals LITERALLY SMH FOR YOU

dr dams: R u nw saying Naoh's Arc is Allegorical? Aw abt Archaeological records ?

which record show me

Lets dont go der, lol..

Bt I want to bring to ur notice dat d Rainbow is d evidence of d convenant God ad with Naoh n it so much correlate with flooding and todays rainfall? Aw den can u call d story an Allegory?

mcfynest:

which record show me

dr dams: Lets dont go der, lol..

Bt I want to bring to ur notice dat d Rainbow is d evidence of d convenant God ad with Naoh n it so much correlate with flooding and todays rainfall? Aw den can u call d story an Allegory?

lets go there, and pls read the chapter again to tell me wich rainbow you are talking about

mcfynest:

hmmmm....flesh and bone hath not revealed this unto you
....

so you believe the story of noah on the sea in an ark with all kinds of animals LITERALLY SMH FOR YOU

I don't believe it happened in any way. You're welcome to believe it happened any way you like. Just be careful with saying he sailed his ark on people's heads.

Image123:

So you do have faith?

Looks like a failure of language here with you. Just so you know, faith has multiple meanings. Here are two meanings.

Wiktionary:
1. A feeling, conviction, or belief that something is true or real, assent that is not contingent upon reason or justification.

2. A religious belief system.

4. A trust or confidence in the intentions or abilities of a person, object, or ideal.

1) and 2) are the sorts of faith religious people like you have when it comes to the Bible and your God.
4) is what I was talking about.

Seriously take the time to learn something about the language. It will help reduce some of the confusion you're having.

thehomer:

Looks like a failure of language here with you. Just so you know, faith has multiple meanings. Here are two meanings.



1) and 2) are the sorts of faith religious people like you have when it comes to the Bible and your God.
4) is what I was talking about.

Seriously take the time to learn something about the language. It will help reduce some of the confusion you're having.

hmmm, am i beginning to touch a nerve? What is my offiense? i have all the faiths described above. Everyone has faith, its just that some misuse it. Do you have faith in Brahma too?

Image123:
hmmm, am i beginning to touch a nerve? What is my offiense? i have all the faiths described above. Everyone has faith, its just that some misuse it. Do you have faith in Brahma too?

Did I say or imply you committed an offense? When you misuse language, you make it difficult to communicate with you. When you say you "have all the faiths described above", you're confusing issues. I'm telling you that the word "faith" has multiple meanings and you're saying you "have all the meanings". That is just a misunderstanding of the various concepts.

No I don't have faith in Brahma but what does that have to do with anything here? Or do you have faith in Brahma yourself?

Image123:
hmmm, am i beginning to touch a nerve? What is my offiense? i have all the faiths described above. Everyone has faith, its just that some misuse it. Do you have faith in Brahma too?

When fail, troll. Always works.

dr dams: Hmm, its nt intended to tackle or tongue lash Christianity or d existence of God.. Lets talk abt d Mystery from a Logical perspective.

what is logical about living in a fish? how is that even possible ?

thehomer:

Did I say or imply you committed an offense? When you misuse language, you make it difficult to communicate with you. When you say you "have all the faiths described above", you're confusing issues. I'm telling you that the word "faith" has multiple meanings and you're saying you "have all the meanings". That is just a misunderstanding of the various concepts.

No I don't have faith in Brahma but what does that have to do with anything here? Or do you have faith in Brahma yourself?

You said i have 1 and 2, i said i have all. Then you start complaining. There is no confusing issues, its actually a clarification of facts. You know little about faith as you said you do not have. Permit me to help you na.

Image123:
You said i have 1 and 2, i said i have all. Then you start complaining. There is no confusing issues, its actually a clarification of facts. You know little about faith as you said you do not have. Permit me to help you na.

I see. The problem is that you're finding language difficult. I'm sorry but I cannot help you with that. Seeing how you confuse the meaning of a word with the word itself, I don't think you're qualified or in a position to help me. Sorry to burs your bubble.

thehomer:

I see. The problem is that you're finding language difficult. I'm sorry but I cannot help you with that. Seeing how you confuse the meaning of a word with the word itself, I don't think you're qualified or in a position to help me. Sorry to burs your bubble.

You needed help on Jonas nd it has been given, have a nice day.

9jadelta: what is logical about living in a fish? how is that even possible ?

A Cninese woman survive miraculously when a big container fell on her car.......To everybody there, anyone inside the car must surely die.

Note: She didn't prepare for it

The thread is still on FP with many pics as evident, How can you explain this?

I know you people always run away from such type of thread

Very soon the whole Bible Itself will soon turn to Allegory by some Body....just wait and see.

Shalom!

thehomer:

I don't believe it happened in any way. You're welcome to believe it happened any way you like. Just be careful with saying he sailed his ark on people's heads.

Emusan:

A Cninese woman survive miraculously when a big container fell on her car.......To everybody there, anyone inside the car must surely die.

Note: She didn't prepare for it

The thread is still on FP with many pics as evident, How can you explain this?

I know you people always run away from such type of thread

Very soon the whole Bible Itself will soon turn to Allegory by some Body....just wait and see.

Shalom!

Are you crediting God with that? Or does the container represent something else?

I'm sorry to interrupt, but considering the nature of topic and the erudition on display here, I feel this is the best place to discuss this

physics.org:


The physics of Santa

Nick of time

Just one night is not much time to deliver presents to around two billion children all over the world.

That time can be extended to up to 48 hours by taking advantage of the Earth’s time zones – starting by delivering presents in the (saint) nick of time at the International Date Line and travelling west.

With a total global population of seven billion, then assuming an average family size of four people, he’d have to deliver to around 10 000 homes every second in order to get the job done within those 48 hours.

By way of comparison, the US Postal Service delivers around 170 billion items of mail every year – equivalent to a little over 5000 per second over the course of 12 months, and that’s with a workforce of more than 600 000 employees and ownership of the largest vehicle fleet in the world.

Santa’s delivery outfit consists only of himself and a handful of reindeer. As has been pointed out before – notably by Spy Magazine – to deliver all his presents in time he’d have to travel at such a high speed that Rudolph and co would burn up due to friction, just like small meteors entering the atmosphere. Maybe that explains the red nose.

But could he get the job done using either of the two great theories of 20th-century physics: relativity and quantum mechanics?


Relativity

In his special theory of relativity, Albert Einstein showed that time runs at different rates for observers who are moving relative to one another (and passes more slowly for excited children waiting for presents).

This wouldn’t be much good though, as the sleigh-pulling reindeer would still be going so fast they’d combust – if they could even stay in orbit.

But gravitational fields also bend time – clocks run slower the closer they are to a source of mass. Could the Earth’s gravity help?

Probably not. If orbiting on the edge of space, then even doubling the amount of available present-delivery time would require the planet to be 1000 times more massive than the Sun – and if the Earth were this heavy at its current size it would collapse as a black hole.

But if there are no natural configurations of spacetime that might help, Santa could in theory still create a custom one.

In 1994, a physicist then based at Cardiff University, Miguel Alcubierre, discovered that there is a solution of general relativity roughly analogous to Star Trek’s warp drive. By artificially contracting the section of spacetime in front of the sleigh and expanding that behind, Santa and his reindeer can travel at an arbitrarily large speed relative to the Earth while still remaining stationary within their own ‘bubble’ of space.

The trouble is this would require an enormous amount of energy to accomplish – several billion times that in the entire observable universe.


Quantum mechanics

Quantum mechanics also allows for things to be transported great distances in little time, and could avoid the need for Santa to take to the skies at all.

Because their position isn’t a definite point but a wave spread out over space, particles can sometimes “tunnel” through barriers that, according to classical mechanics, they shouldn’t be able to pass.

Again, assuming Santa actually knows how to accomplish this (he does, after all, know when you are sleeping; he knows when you’re awake; he knows if you’ve been bad or good…), it would take a huge amount of energy to realize.

This is not to say that he doesn’t have such tremendous amounts of energy at his disposal, but it may not be the most efficient solution to his present-delivery problem.


Von Neumann probes

Maybe the problem of present-delivery could adapt a suggestion originally made when considering space exploration.

Physicist John von Neumann proposed that a spacecraft could be sent to another star system and programmed to make replicas of itself using raw materials found there. These in turn would travel to further solar systems, exponentially increasing the volume of space that can be covered.

A similar strategy could be used to send a delivery-sleigh to each continent, replicating itself to send one to each country, to each state, territory or county, and so on.

But, other than the odd bit of space junk, there are few natural resources available to convert, and to do so would be time-consuming anyway. Santa would have to be able to readily transmute elements from one form to another and then assemble them into the correct toys and gifts – perhaps by using nanotechnology.

Whichever means are used to deliver presents to billions of homes during the festive season, it’s clear that Father Christmas is way more technologically advanced than us.

Or he could just put gifts in the post.

So, what do you think?

Cloud Cuckoo state!!

wiegraf: I'm sorry to interrupt, but considering the nature of topic and the erudition on display here, I feel this is the best place to discuss this



So, what do you think?

dr dams: Cloud Cuckoo state!!

Why would you say so? Attack the points, they look solid to me

Well, I would only say : with God , all things are possible but d 'Allegorians' and Atheist will b on d verge of devouring..

I am nt an authority in d field, technologically , we r learners, therefore, I dont av that power to deliberate..

They invent, we use : dats Niaja for we.

wiegraf:

Why would you say so? Attack the points, they look solid to me

Jonah was most likely taken into a submarine powered by advanced extraterrestrials. The best description his pre-industrial mind could give was ''a whale''.

Similar to Elijah going up in a ''chariot of fire''. This was most likely a spaceship powered by advanced extraterrestrials.

Most societies in the ancient world encountered these beings whom they came to regard as 'gods'.

In fact the root of religion lies in the visitations of these beings in antiquity, and there is every reason to believe that we were in fact 'CREATED' by those beings, who mixed their DNA with that of earth hominids to create 'man', ie a human body capable of housing intelligent souls.

Where is obidiah777?

Never doubt the wonders of the Lord, the Lord is Mighty and Great.

Ignorance before u read the bible ask for God's holy spirit re u that blind to see that fish sallow Jonah weather na whale or another kind of fish fish na fish slowpoke

sylve11: Where is obidiah777?

i nominated the thread. quite an enthralling topic wouldn't you say Monsieur sylve11

thehomer:

It was a very big fish. But seriously do you really believe that crap? Stop and think for a minute. How can someone be swallowed in a fish and live in it? How big do you think Jonah was that he would live in a fish?

You take this as evidence of God working in mysterious ways? Consider this clip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1pCudKUIRg

Cant go through the stress of quoting all stupid posts.... oh faithless and perverse generation..

God created the science your are studying..
He created you..
He gave you wisdom and an ability to think..
He gave you freewill..
Let's not rebel against HIM...
HE is supreme over all..
Thats why HE IS GOD..
thats y you can't understand HIM..
HE hasn't mandated you to understand HIS works anyway..
ALL you MUST do is believe HIM...

HE cares..

sometimes i wonder why peeps like adding logic to the bible....if God gave u the ability to think and philosophise, why not use dat knowledge to better the country...cos if u tell me it was allegorical or real...it doesnt change wat i believe...you will just be spending your time, energy and mb posting and posting...life goes on...i'm just saying o...

mcfynest:

hmmmm....flesh and bone hath not revealed this unto you
....

so you believe the story of noah on the sea in an ark with all kinds of animals LITERALLY SMH FOR YOU

so now you guys are saying all those stories like the burning bush,talking donkey,parting of the red sea are just allegories,going by that,it means they are all subject to interpretations like an art work,which could be interpreted in different ways.Good then cos I will start giving my own interpretations.