I'm realy getting worried or should I say confused the way things are going in Christiandom. I have discovered that nine out of every ten brides on their wedding day are about three months pregnant already. I was told as young gal that it was a kind of taboo for that to happen to a girl. Our seeming strong christian bros and sisters are not left out in this trend. What do I do. Should I and other young christians accept it as the right way of life or stand against it. May we know through this forum what is right before God because the whole situation is getting on my nerves that I nw expect news of delivery of my friends six months after wedding. Its no more new to me.

Actually, the normal thing is for two of you to get marry before going to bed, meaning that you are not expected to have slept with anybody before marriage, you are expected to be a virgin under normal circumstance, come to think of it, how many young girl can proof their virginity? The fact is that there is no need to pretend about the whole issue, if you have slept with your guy before marriage there is no need for any cover up, the decision is yours whether to get pregnant before marriage or not, but if you are a virgin, i will advise you to keep your virginity until you get the right man, but if not decide what suites you.

Dont defile the bed.I have heard of many stories about guys leaving girls when they had have their way in some cases putting the girl in family way and running away so dont.

Biblical,it is wrong..Joseph even try to divorce Mary when he knew as about her pregnancy.
don't defile yourself, wait till the right time.if your spouse disagrees! please try to convince him,if he insist,I don't think he is the one the lord choose for you....

Issy-E:
I'm realy getting worried or should I say confused the way things are going in Christiandom. I have discovered that nine out of every ten brides on their wedding day are about three months pregnant already. I was told as young gal that it was a kind of taboo for that to happen to a girl. Our seeming strong christian bros and sisters are not left out in this trend. What do I do. Should I and other young christians accept it as the right way of life or stand against it. May we know through this forum what is right before God because the whole situation is getting on my nerves that I nw expect news of delivery of my friends six months after wedding. Its no more new to me.

What you really should do is mind your own business. How does the fact that your friend was pregnant at her wedding affect you? Abi Are you the groom? Children are a blessing from God,and if God Himself has deemed it fit to bless your friends with children irrespective of their fornication, WHO are you to point fingers, and whisper behind your hand? Better be careful.

Heb 13:4 " Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

How God will judge Premarital se.x and ungodly se.x including the with pregnancy, we do not know, but the Bible says GOD WILL JUDGE.

For more information, you can check my profile, there was a tough argument about a topic, Ungodly se.x.

God bless you.
God2man.







God bless you.
God2man.

Heb 13:4 " Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

How God will judge Premarital se.x and ungodly se.x including the one with pregnancy, we do not know, but the Bible says GOD WILL JUDGE.

For more information, you can check my profile, there was a tough argument about a topic, Ungodly se.x.

God bless you.
God2man.







God bless you.
God2man.

Ajibam: Biblical,it is wrong..Joseph even try to divorce Mary when he knew as about her pregnancy.
don't defile yourself, wait till the right time.if your spouse disagrees! please try to convince him,if he insist,I don't think he is the one the lord choose for you....

Please, please and please, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pregnancy. It is because of this mentality that unwed mothers would rather risk their lives in seeking abortions,than nurturing the children God has blessed them with. Fornication is wrong, but then let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

God2man: Heb 13:4 " Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

How God will judge Premarital se.x and ungodly se.x including the with pregnancy, we do not know, but the Bible says GOD WILL JUDGE.

For more information, you can check my profile, there was a tough argument about a topic, Ungodly se.x.

God bless you.
God2man.







God bless you.
God2man.

God2man: Heb 13:4 " Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

How God will judge Premarital se.x and ungodly se.x including the with pregnancy, we do not know, but the Bible says GOD WILL JUDGE.

For more information, you can check my profile, there was a tough argument about a topic, Ungodly se.x.

God bless you.
God2man.







God bless you.
God2man.

Again, out of context scripture!!!

Goshen360:


Again, out of context scripture!!!

What exactly are you saying?

ARareGem:

What exactly are you saying?

What I'm saying is, that scriptures Heb 13:4

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

is not addressing pre-marital sexx. It's addressing those who have sexx OUTSIDE their marriage. It says MARRIAGE. What is MARRIAGE? Is it courtship? The context further proves by saying WHOREMONGERS and ADULTERERS.....Who is an adulterer if not someone is MARRIED but still sleeping with another WHILE his or her spouse is alive or still in a MARRIAGE.

That's why I said, it is out of context scriptures, if anyone is going to throw scriptures at pre-marital sexx, get a scriptures that says so, not out of context scriptures.

Many people read that scripture in the superlative mood and some read 'into' that scripture. Do you understand I'm saying now?

^^ I understand. For some reason I had not noticed what you pointed out. A lot of people (myself included) use that verse in the wrong context. Hmmm... thanks.

Bludeville:
Please, please and please, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pregnancy. It is because of this mentality that unwed mothers would rather risk their lives in seeking abortions,than nurturing the children God has blessed them with. Fornication is wrong, but then let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

I can cast the stone,inasmuch I can't do it.
am talking of pregnancy before marriage. if you can't wait, try it and bear the consequences...
is a Matter of choice

Goshen360:

What I'm saying is, that scriptures Heb 13:4

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

is not addressing pre-marital sexx. It's addressing those who have sexx OUTSIDE their marriage. It says MARRIAGE. What is MARRIAGE? Is it courtship? The context further proves by saying WHOREMONGERS and ADULTERERS.....Who is an adulterer if not someone is MARRIED but still sleeping with another WHILE his or her spouse is alive or still in a MARRIAGE.

That's why I said, it is out of context scriptures, if anyone is going to throw scriptures at pre-marital sexx, get a scriptures that says so, not out of context scriptures.

Many people read that scripture in the superlative mood and some read 'into' that scripture. Do you understand I'm saying now?

Am i learning something new?
Oga Goshen360, i agree with your explanation on adultery, but you did not teach us the meaning of whoremonger, are they married too?

God bless you.
God2man.

ARareGem: ^^ I understand. For some reason I had not noticed what you pointed out. A lot of people (myself included) use that verse in the wrong context. Hmmm... thanks.

My sister, it is never out of context, it is within the context, whoremonger for the single state, adulterers for the married state.
The Bible is teaching us to keep ourselves from both premarital and ungodly se.x.
How is it Honourable? Is it after premarital se.x? It is honourable and joyful, when the two come together pure and chaste, and the marriage is undefiled.

God bless you.
God2man.

God2man:

Am i learning something new?
Oga Goshen360, i agree with your explanation on adultery, but you did not teach us the meaning of whoremonger, are they married too?

God bless you.
God2man.

God2man:

My sister, it is never out of context, it is within the context, whoremonger for the single state, adulterers for the married state.
The Bible is teaching us to keep ourselves from both premarital and ungodly se.x.
How is it Honourable? Is it after premarital se.x? It is honourable and joyful, when the two come together pure and chaste, and the marriage is undefiled.

God bless you.
God2man.

First, @ God2man, read that verse from AS MANY AS POSSIBLE translations that exist, it's never applicable to the singles, it's 'husband and wife' being address, hence the reference to MARRIAGE. Marriage is the only institution that joins a man and a woman and they BECOME husband and wife.

2. Look up the word meaning for whoremonger from a concordance AS USED in that verse and read whatever meaning you have back into the text, it will help.

3. I agree, a single person can be a whoremonger but it also applies to a married. The whoremonger being referred to here is ONE IN MARRIAGE. The context says MARRIAGE is honourable, how do we take the context of marriage mentioned here and then turn around and say it applies to unmarried? You destroy the whole context!!! So, we understand the whoremonger being referred is one in MARRIAGE.

Find out, by doing what I said if it is true or not.

Goshen360:



First, @ God2man, read that verse from AS MANY AS POSSIBLE translations that exist, it's never applicable to the singles, it's 'husband and wife' being address, hence the reference to MARRIAGE. Marriage is the only institution that joins a man and a woman and they BECOME husband and wife.

2. Look up the word meaning for whoremonger from a concordance AS USED in that verse and read whatever meaning you have back into the text, it will help.

3. I agree, a single person can be a whoremonger but it also applies to a married. The whoremonger being referred to here is ONE IN MARRIAGE. The context says MARRIAGE is honourable, how do we take the context of marriage mentioned here and then turn around and say it applies to unmarried? You destroy the whole context!!! So, we understand the whoremonger being referred is one in MARRIAGE.

Find out, by doing what I said if it is true or not.

From The new Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.
4205= WHOREMONGERS in Greek "Pornos" meaning a male prostitute, fornicator, debauchee, libertine also meaning a man, who lives immorally, having se.xual relationships with many people.

Whoremonger in marriage and whoremonger before marriage, the truth is whoremonger can be a fornicator and can also be an adulterer.

So, in that context, The Bible warned us against having se.x before and after marriage.

How can marriage be honourable in all? The foundation of any marriage will determine the purity, so, if the two met and had se.x before marriage, how can the marriage be hounourable?

I do not like too much argument, i thank God that you agreed that whoremonger can be single, that's all.

However, you are free to use any other translations to interpret the meaning of whoremonger. The meaning of whoremonger will never change. Whoremonger is whoremonger. It can aply to the single and the married.

I rest my case.

God bless you.
God2man.

Ajibam:
I can cast the stone,inasmuch I can't do it.
am talking of pregnancy before marriage. if you can't wait, try it and bear the consequences...
is a Matter of choice

I'm sorry, could you rephrase? You are very incoherent, i tried to decipher but all i really see is " blah blah blah, I'm a righteous b*****ch"

I have heard all ur comments and reactions, but the question I keep asking is; what is the essence of unwrapping so hurriedly, a gift that has been destined to be unwrapped. Another question is; what is the guarantee that the pregnancy will get to full term? Why not wait till the right time to enjoy sex and have godly children as a married couple so that u won't attract the wrath of God!

@OP, you do not need to go with the tide because others are doing it despite the word of God and morals does not make it right.

God2man: Heb 13:4 " Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED, but the whoremongers and adulterers, God will judge"

How God will judge Premarital se.x and ungodly se.x including the one with pregnancy, we do not know, but the Bible says GOD WILL JUDGE.

For more information, you can check my profile, there was a tough argument about a topic, Ungodly se.x.

God bless you.
God2man.

God bless you.
God2man.

Hello God2man, you have captured this well. The only approved sex is in marriage where the lady has been given to the man as his wife and the man has left his parents to cleave to His wife.

See how the bible classifies those that are not virgins at marriage based on the context of the scripture below:

Leviticus 21:14
A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, or an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife.

Widow - The husband is dead
Divorced - Left her husband or put away
Profane (defiled) - Defiled usually by rape which is not consensual but forcefully done.
Harlot - anyone who sleeps with someone who is not her husband due to lust whether monetary or non-monetary.
Virgin - Has known no man.

Ofcourse all these people still marry but for the harlot will need to repent and divorced needs to go back to the spouse or remain. The raped was forcefull taken and is of no fault, same as widow.
*By the way the spirit of the message is for both sexes.


@bludeville, you are correct on the pregnancy not being the issue here as it is the outcome of fornication or adultery of which the latter is where is wrong.

There is no wisdom in Premarital se.x.

I know a brother, very good brother, fervent and committed to the things of God. One thing happen after another, they did it before marriage, now, it is hunting them. I sincerely believe the wife is pregnant now, because we have been praying for them.

The period of courtship or dating is tempting, one should find time to discuss important thing like character, prayer, giving to the work of God,reading christian books on marriage, preparing for marriage, how to manage your finances, checking your medical status and so on, instead of having se.x.

Se.x in an unwanted time will always result to guilt, hatred, and rejection, Oh! What a day of joy for you to have it at the right time. That is after weding.

God bless you.
God2man.

@ God2man,

What does "marriage" in that context mean? Can you pull out the meaning from concordance for us please? Thank you.

Goshen360: @ God2man,

What does "marriage" in that context mean? Can you pull out the meaning from concordance for us please? Thank you.

it is a win win situation. I can't pull it out. I am sorry.

Argument is not good for me.

God bless you.
God2man.

@OP,
Ofcourse God created sex for pleasure and pro-creation. And He approved it in marriage. When the woman is given to the man in marriage and the man leaves to cleave. Virginity is no more even priced for the marital bed instead we have even supposed Christians doing and supporting this act. You should not be surprised however at the rate people now choose to look for other means to justify the act of sex outside marriage even calling it special revelations to them only but Jesus has this to say about it:


Revelation 2:20,24-26
20 “But I have this complaint against you. You are permitting that woman—that Jezebel who calls herself a prophet—to lead my servants astray. She teaches them to commit sexual sin and to eat food offered to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she does not want to turn away from her immorality.
24 “But I also have a message for the rest of you in Thyatira who have not followed this false teaching (‘deeper truths,’ as they call them—depths of Satan, actually). I will ask nothing more of you
25 except that you hold tightly to what you have until I come.
26 To all who are victorious, who obey me to the very end, To them I will give authority over all the nations.

It is the latter times and the devil is fighting tooth and nail using advance ploys like he did to Eve in the garden of Eden to question the words of God...'did God really say...'?
We should do our bit by teaching correctly and leaving the Holy Spirit to complete the good work in them.

Issy-E:
I'm realy getting worried or should I say confused the way things are going in Christiandom. I have discovered that nine out of every ten brides on their wedding day are about three months pregnant already. I was told as young gal that it was a kind of taboo for that to happen to a girl. Our seeming strong christian bros and sisters are not left out in this trend. What do I do. Should I and other young christians accept it as the right way of life or stand against it. May we know through this forum what is right before God because the whole situation is getting on my nerves that I nw expect news of delivery of my friends six months after wedding. Its no more new to me.

1Thess 5:22
'Abstain from all appearance of evil'

2Cor 6:3
'Giving no offense in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed'

Gal 5:22-23
'But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23.Meekness, TEMPERANCE :against such there is no law'

How do we see sex? A handshake between friends? A Christian should exercise temperance or self control. Will they die in the few months before wedding if they don't get intimate? Why engage in something that ridicules the name of Christ? The Church too isn't helping matters with long drawn out marriage committee red tape and all

Go to a registry and legalise the union if you can't wait for Church wedding. It is perfectly right in the sight of God.

Let us learn to flee every appearance of evil. Grace is not license

If i coment now, many will b offended, so i hold my peace. *silent mode activated*

Goshen360:



First, @ God2man, read that verse from AS MANY AS POSSIBLE translations that exist, it's never applicable to the singles, it's 'husband and wife' being address, hence the reference to MARRIAGE. Marriage is the only institution that joins a man and a woman and they BECOME husband and wife.

2. Look up the word meaning for whoremonger from a concordance AS USED in that verse and read whatever meaning you have back into the text, it will help.

3. I agree, a single person can be a whoremonger but it also applies to a married. The whoremonger being referred to here is ONE IN MARRIAGE. The context says MARRIAGE is honourable, how do we take the context of marriage mentioned here and then turn around and say it applies to unmarried? You destroy the whole context!!! So, we understand the whoremonger being referred is one in MARRIAGE.

Find out, by doing what I said if it is true or not.

Lol.

Marriage people do whoremonger, single people nko ? Ok, single also do abi ?

Is premarritle sex the christian way ?

should unmarried people engage in sexual activity ?

What is the married bed ?

Do unmarried people have a married bed(sex) ?

what is the sex bed for unmarried people called

Is the unmarried bed (sex bed) for unmarried people recognised in the bible ?

Who sets the standard for what christians should do ?

Should we be doing what is not 'lawful' ?

My friend Goshen, should 'christians' engage in premarital sex ?


how then can the force of God's word act and protect its followers if they refuses to do only what is lawful ?

Can a young man/woman that abstained from sex befor marriage contract venereal disease let alone HIV ?

Can the wisdom of men deliver/protect like that of God ?

truthislight:

Lol.

Marriage people do whoremonger, single people nko ? Ok, single also do abi ?

Is premarritle sex the christian way ?

should unmarried people engage in sexual activity ?

What is the married bed ?

Do unmarried people have a married bed(sex) ?

what is the sex bed for unmarried people called

Is the unmarried bed (sex bed) for unmarried people recognised in the bible ?

Who sets the standard for what christians should do ?

Should we be doing what is not 'lawful' ?

My friend Goshen, should 'christians' engage in premarital sex ?


how then can the force of God's word act and protect its followers if they refuses to do only what is lawful ?

Can a young man/woman that abstained from sex befor marriage contract venereal disease let alone HIV ?

Can the wisdom of men deliver/protect like that of God ?