In the midst of intensive arguments and confusion going on in the body of Christ today, I want to correct a serious and long held erroneous teachings that Christ came to make the Law(s) of Moses higher for Christians. This teaching is false and erroneous. Christ didn't come to give Christians or his followers more laws, rules and regulations nor make the already existing laws of Moses higher. The people of the law or under the dispensation of law of Moses of which Christ was born into, could not even keep the law of Moses. Why then would Christ come to still raise the standard of what people could not keep?

Some people say or teach, Christ came to show the 'true intent' of the law. What is the true intent of 'thou shall not commit' order than what it says - thou shall not commit adultery. It can't mean anything else and it must remain. The people under the Law could still not keep thou shall not commit adultery, meaning they can't keep the whole law. They're still committing adultery even when the law says otherwise. You break one, you break all is the spirit of the law.

John 1:17
Amplified Bible (AMP)
For while the Law was given through Moses, grace (unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ.

The Law had already being given by Moses through angels. The scripture says Christ came with Grace and truth. What is the truth that the people of the law are lacking towards 'thou shall not commit adultery' for example?

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

Many people use this verse and say, Christ was raising the standard towards thou shall not commit adultery. This is erroneous interpretation for ages. Christ is not raising the standard. Raising the standard will mean, you can't keep it more and more because the people can't even keep the lower standard, then why raise the standard. What is Christ says and what is the truth here?

Christ was addressing and curing the root cause of adultery as well as other sins against the Law. What do I mean? The revelation was given to the Apostles James,

Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. James 1:15

The heart is the source of all issues of life. Especially when such heart is flowing from love. The heart must be supported by Grace and truth in Christ.

to be continue . . .

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MEILYN: whats with the, law law, grace grace?. Its getting boring abeg.

what Goshen lacks is application. his scripture and topics do not address or reference whats happening in the world today. he has one of these fantasy doctrines that stays in a vacuum of its own and is totally unrelated and unconnected to the world we live in

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lol @ one trick pony

obadiah777: * cough* heresy *cough*

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MEILYN: whats with the, law law, grace grace?. Its getting boring abeg.

Because God took away one (the law covenant) to establish the new (the covenant of Grace). People keep teaching laws of Moses to Christians not knowing they are teaching Christians or giving them strength and ability to sin more. Law is the strength of sin. So, you ser someone hammering on law, such have the strength of sinning. Christ is the CURE FOR SIN not the law of Moses!!!

obadiah777: what Goshen lacks is application. his scripture and topics do not address or reference whats happening in the world today. he has one of these fantasy doctrines that stays in a vacuum of its own and is totally unrelated and unconnected to the world we live in

At least, unlike you, I don't teach heretic like 90% of bible is allegory, teaching and saying Christ is angel Michael, denying the virgin birth of Christ prophesied on the prophet, mis representing scriptures etc.

Ishilove:
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me and Goshen got that kinda relationship. he comes to my threads to tell me i am talking rubbish and i return the favor

obadiah777: me and Goshen got that kinda relationship. he comes to my threads to tell me i am talking rubbish and i return the favor

lmao

MEILYN: lmao

i believe i have a scripture for that sire
galatians 6 vs 7 A man reaps what he sows.

obadiah777: i believe i have a scripture for that sire
galatians 6 vs 7 A man reaps what he sows.

indeed sire indeed... A man who kills by the sword, shall die by the sword sire.

MEILYN: indeed sire indeed... A man who kills by the sword, shall die by the sword sire.

Goshen done led more people into the bottomless pit than anyone since the history of nairaland. i believe he deserves a guiness book of record. we need a nairaland guiness book of record.

AWARD

This award goes to the person who has led the most people into the bottomless pit and the nominees are

1-Alfa seltzer
2-Logicboy
3-Goshen
4-musKeeto
5-pagan 9ja

*opens envelope*

and the award goes to GOSHEN

obadiah777: Goshen done led more people into the bottomless pit than anyone since the history of nairaland. i believe he deserves a guiness book of record. we need a nairaland guiness book of record.

AWARD

This award goes to the person who has led the most people into the bottomless pit and the nominees are

1-Alfa seltzer
2-Logicboy
3-Goshen
4-musKeeto
5-pagan 9ja

*opens envelope*

and the award goes to GOSHEN

lmao, hahahahahahahahahaha *falls from tree*

MEILYN: lmao, hahahahahahahahahaha *falls from tree*

hope say you no break ya back sire lol

obadiah777: Goshen done led more people into the bottomless pit than anyone since the history of nairaland. i believe he deserves a guiness book of record. we need a nairaland guiness book of record.

AWARD

This award goes to the person who has led the most people into the bottomless pit and the nominees are

1-Alfa seltzer
2-Logicboy
3-Goshen
4-musKeeto
5-pagan 9ja

*opens envelope*

and the award goes to GOSHEN

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Look at what i woke up to this morning.

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The man says he is determined to destroy the law of Moses.

By the confessions of his own mouth.

Its a very heavy load and I know Goshen is not fully aware of the penalties involved for uttering such such words.

But who can save his brothers soul??

He will surely get his reward.

obadiah777: * cough* heresy *cough*

obadiah777: what Goshen lacks is application. his scripture and topics do not address or reference whats happening in the world today. he has one of these fantasy doctrines that stays in a vacuum of its own and is totally unrelated and unconnected to the world we live in

Alice in wonderland Sire.

He wants to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

The man has lost his mind on this Issue of grace.

Goshen360:



Because God took away one (the law covenant) to establish the new (the covenant of Grace). People keep teaching laws of Moses to Christians not knowing they are teaching Christians or giving them strength and ability to sin more. Law is the strength of sin. So, you ser someone hammering on law, such have the strength of sinning. Christ is the CURE FOR SIN not the law of Moses!!!

The sermon on the mount is pure law.

You cannot have a greater revelation than Yashua, you can never be greater than Yashua.

It is you that is teaching others to sin proclaiming the law is dead, and yet we still see sin within this world daily.

MostHigh:

The sermon on the mount is pure law.

You cannot have a greater revelation than Yashua, you can never be greater than Yashua.

It is you that is teaching others to sin proclaiming the law is dead, and yet we still see sin within this world daily.

Exactly what I'm saying that is, having the law more and more doesn't stop people from sinning. Christ the more is the CURE for sin.

Keep teaching people law, you keep strengthening them to sin more and whoever goes on and on in the law, have the strength to sin more because law is the strength and power of sin.

You have to tear one down (the law) in order to build the other (grace and truth).

Goshen360:

Exactly what I'm saying that is, having the law more and more doesn't stop people from sinning. Christ the more is the CURE for sin.

Keep teaching people law, you keep strengthening them to sin more and whoever goes on and on in the law, have the strength to sin more because law is the strength and power of sin.

You have to tear one down (the law) in order to build the other (grace and truth).

what a joke. Witout laws there is no sin

obadiah777: * cough* heresy *cough*

why are your posts getting 3 likes on em?
Are you using your other three handles to like your posts? :-D





na wa ooh people can do anything for attention..lol.

obadiah777: Goshen done led more people into the bottomless pit than anyone since the history of nairaland. i believe he deserves a guiness book of record. we need a nairaland guiness book of record.

AWARD

This award goes to the person who has led the most people into the bottomless pit and the nominees are

1-Alfa seltzer
2-Logicboy
3-Goshen
4-musKeeto
5-pagan 9ja

*opens envelope*

and the award goes to GOSHEN

i thought my name would be among one of the nominees


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MEILYN: what a joke. Witout laws there is no sin

You just helping to establish the teaching here - scripture says, the only way not to sin is NOT to have the law because sin is the transgression of the law but when there's no law, there's no sin because, there won't be anything to break...

Goshen360:

You just helping to establish the teaching here - scripture says, the only way not to sin is NOT to have the law because sin is the transgression of the law but when there's no law, there's no sin because, there won't be anything to break...

mr goshen keep living your lawless life.... lawlessness is tantamount to freedom and wrecklessness, u cant keep living as you like, doing anything you want and claim to serve God. If there are no Laws in Lagos then we will see what it becomes in 2weeks. If there are no laws then there is no purnishment/hell... I rest my case, keep preaching your grace, keep deceiving people thats ur problem.

Yooguyz:
why are your posts getting 3 likes on em?
Are you using your other three handles to like your posts? :-D





na wa ooh people can do anything for attention..lol.

who be this one? You better talk watin you know.

Alwaystrue: Titus 2:11-14
11 For the GRACE of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every LAWLESS deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

I have told you to always STUDY the word in 'context'. First, I don't know what translation you quote but before I quote KJV, that verse 14 is talking about our past position, not our present state. . . who GAVE himself that he might redeem us. Are you redeemed or you are yet to be redeemed? That word you capitalized LAWLESS deed is 'iniquity' in the KJV. A Christian is not given the law of Moses but we have the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ, follow the title of the thread.

MEILYN: mr goshen keep living your lawless life.... lawlessness is tantamount to freedom and wrecklessness, u cant keep living as you like, doing anything you want and claim to serve God. If there are no Laws in Lagos then we will see what it becomes in 2weeks. If there are no laws then there is no purnishment/hell... I rest my case, keep preaching your grace, keep deceiving people thats ur problem.

Who is talking about government law here? Is traffic law in the law of Moses? What is wrong with you that you can't comprehend simple message? Are Christians given the laws that was given to Moses for Israel? If you think so, then give us scriptures. Thank you.

obadiah777: Goshen done led more people into the bottomless pit than anyone since the history of nairaland. i believe he deserves a guiness book of record. we need a nairaland guiness book of record.

AWARD

This award goes to the person who has led the most people into the bottomless pit and the nominees are

1-Alfa seltzer
2-Logicboy
3-Goshen
4-musKeeto
5-pagan 9ja

*opens envelope*

and the award goes to GOSHEN

LMFAO!