dr_joshua2000: Pharmacist should handle anything concerning drugs? see how shallow you think. Whose traditional job is it to prescribe, pharmaceutical companies even write that drug should be taken under physicians prescription. Dispense ur drugs, clarify mistakes in prescription that's your only jobs in teaching hospitals. You can go to the villages and communities with no doctors if you want to prescribe and the pharmaceutical companies if you want to be the lord. Pharmacists are just too lazy, seeking to reap more bounty than they deserve. @ on a good day. Moreover nurses will soon start one year internship that should cover the so-called residency young has been talking about and that will make them more relevant than the hospital pharmacist who sit down all day doing nothing.

dr_joshua2000: Pharmacist should handle anything concerning drugs? see how shallow you think. Whose traditional job is it to prescribe, pharmaceutical companies even write that drug should be taken under physicians prescription. Dispense ur drugs, clarify mistakes in prescription that's your only jobs in teaching hospitals. You can go to the villages and communities with no doctors if you want to prescribe and the pharmaceutical companies if you want to be the lord. Pharmacists are just too lazy, seeking to reap more bounty than they deserve. @ on a good day. Moreover nurses will soon start one year internship that should cover the so-called residency young has been talking about and that will make them more relevant than the hospital pharmacist who sit down all day doing nothing.

dr_joshua2000: Pharmacist should handle anything concerning drugs? see how shallow you think. Whose traditional job is it to prescribe, pharmaceutical companies even write that drug should be taken under physicians prescription. Dispense ur drugs, clarify mistakes in prescription that's your only jobs in teaching hospitals. You can go to the villages and communities with no doctors if you want to prescribe and the pharmaceutical companies if you want to be the lord. Pharmacists are just too lazy, seeking to reap more bounty than they deserve. @ on a good day. Moreover nurses will soon start one year internship that should cover the so-called residency young has been talking about and that will make them more relevant than the hospital pharmacist who sit down all day doing nothing.

Laalamed:

very correct. do mind people them. i do.not their chaotic ,baseless and pointless arguement. i am expecting them to prove their points by showning us links. many of them could not get facts before vomiting meconium mixed with bile.
doctors never claim to do their jobs but they want to do work of doctors. never.
for pharmjoshua, ubth is running pharmD go and enroll their.
even in usa not all universities run pharmD and most nations of the world do not run pharmD.
if pcn and nuc need pharmD they can go ahead doctors cannot stop them. doctors are not in charge of nuc and pcn. pharmacists should not blame doctors for their failure to run pharmD. in fact i care less about pharmD cos it does not change jobs of doctors. it benefits pharmacists because they would make more money. i do not care as long it would not affect my salary or my job. even in usa where there is pharmD pharmacists are struggling with nurse specialists over prescription.
make i do something. later.

adeola_drg: And who is struggling with nurse practitioners for prescriptions. As far as i know, the work of this two will never overlap, we remain the drug experts no matter how much years of residency any other profession does!

Stop saying pharmacists want to do the work of doctors!! That statement is boring already.

adeola_drg:

Been watching you spilling rubbish ever since, you dont know much.

Oya show a link that says US pharmacy schools still offer b.pharm! As a matter of fact, PharmD became the minimum standard for practicing as a pharmacist in the US since the 80's. Wus argument is pointless now? Shift joor!

phantom: very funny! Drug experts yet you turn around , package a drug and then advise it should be TAKEN ON A PHYSICIANS PRESCRIPTION.

phantom: very funny! Drug experts yet you turn around , package a drug and then advise it should be TAKEN ON A PHYSICIANS PRESCRIPTION.

Laalamed: Pharmacists are confused people. Do not mind them. They want to be prescribing and dispensing drugs. They monopolize pharmaceutical industries and they want to be king in hospitals. In my clinic, i do not need more than a part-time pharmacy technician. Greedy people.

adeola_drg:

I can feel your pain bruv.. I'm happy u said this, it shows u dont even practice all u've been saying. I've been following this thread from the beginning even tho i post few comments.

I warned you about what u just said, didn't i? We do not want to become kings in hospitals! All we ask for is: provide adequate space for us to practice pharmaceutical care!

Now tell me wus greedy if u'd prefer a pharmacy tecnician. They'd just help you with compounding and dispensing they were trained to do, they can't provide pharmaceutical care in ur clinic!! Never, they dont have such indepth training. So r u telling me u go to ur pharm techs for drug advise?? Hahaha, no wonder u came to NL for advise on malaria drug for a patient on RIPE therapy, u rmbr? Ease the beef, get a pharmacist, it won't kill, it'd only tell on the well-being of ur patients!

adeola_drg:

I can feel your pain bruv.. I'm happy u said this, it shows u dont even practice all u've been saying. I've been following this thread from the beginning even tho i post few comments.

I warned you about what u just said, didn't i? We do not want to become kings in hospitals! All we ask for is: provide adequate space for us to practice pharmaceutical care!

Now tell me wus greedy if u'd prefer a pharmacy tecnician. They'd just help you with compounding and dispensing they were trained to do, they can't provide pharmaceutical care in ur clinic!! Never, they dont have such indepth training. So r u telling me u go to ur pharm techs for drug advise?? Hahaha, no wonder u came to NL for advise on malaria drug for a patient on RIPE therapy, u rmbr? Ease the beef, get a pharmacist, it won't kill, it'd only tell on the well-being of ur patients!

Laalamed: I am not in any pain. Feeling good. Presently enjoying my life, do some research and start next projects. Etc.
On RIPE and antimalarial, i am doing a research. Thanks God i got useful information from better source. I was disappointed in u guys response that i decided to let it go. Problem with most of guys is that u do not understand principles and rationale before a reform or policy is made. Go and find out basis for pharmD in usa and why most countries including of the world european union have not made pharmD compulsory for pharm job entry? Mind u i ve nothing againstpharmD. Even in ubth where there is pharmaceutical care jobs of doctors are not affected. Why are u crying like babies? So i demand that pcn and nuc should pharmD before end of this year. Lol.
NOTE that i am not beefing pharmacists. For what? If i see pharmacists that are well-behaved we can form group practices on mutual agreement. Not a big deal.What i hate is this hatred that doctors are stopping pharmD. It is a lie. Hold pcn responsible.

phantom: very funny! Drug experts yet you turn around , package a drug and then advise it should be TAKEN ON A PHYSICIANS PRESCRI
PTION.

adeola_drg:

Thats where u don't get it. 1) We dont even need pharmD before we can carry out efficient pharmaceutical care, just that the pharmD program is clinically loaded compared to b.pharm 2) PharmD program is not to affect the work of doctors in any way, instead its to support it. Now what u dont know is... There was a time the program would have been passed into law, but the doctors in whatever chamber it was, weda na national assembly abi na senate, teamed up with others to turn it down, if not we'd av had pharmD pharmacists come in from the UK to pioneer the program in naija. The story of how Uniben started the program still beats me, my dean explained it to me some years back buh i dont still understand it, what i know is they faced stiff confrontations from doctors. See the fact that u dont av any issue with the program doesnt mean other doctors dont.

And on that thread, u were given the safest drug to go with RIPE, what else do u want? Move joor!

youngRx: whats all this fuse about history of healthcare and traditional roles sef?? so the traditional role of doctors is to prescribe, so what?? who is concerned with history these days?....
this is the 21st century for God's sake! roles and duties are changing, the whole world is changing to make things better. you doctors should beter get use to that and work on how you will adapt to the changes. cos once the pharmacists get their right to prescribe and nurses start minor surgeries, u guys wil be outta your jobs.
now get this straight, even if it has never been done anywhere in d world before, we wil start the revolution here in nigeria. then the whole world will folow. if you like dont listen to Dr young, stay here and argue all day about traditional roles. wait till a pharmacist or nurse become the minister of health in nigeria, then you wil understand better.

adeola_drg: Apply brain sef, if it was left to PCN, trust me we wont be talking about this.

Laalamed: Which safest drugs. U are recommending drug in RIPE without requesting lab parameters of patient. See drug experts. I laugh in mozambique. Go and sleep jor. Olodo.

Laalamed: U do not know what u are talking about. How could doctors stoped pharmD? U are blaming doctors for ur failure to have pharmD. Lol. It is govt that stopped it cos u fail to provide superior govt. Both pcn and govt officials are bunch of politicians that will never tell u the truth. Get that in ur brain. Next time convince govt AND public that u need pharmD i will support it. Do u think i care?

joshuapharm:

I brought on this, pls lets end it here. If we say it more than this, laalamed won't still understand.

Come o, I need an explanation on that statement I made bold. You know u have a lot of doctors in govt shey?

Laalamed:

u disappoint me badly. it is adeola that brought issue of RIPE but ur response prove that u need to read more. it is not only mp that u need as lab parameter. malaria had been confirmed. as clinical pharmacist i was expecting to probe more to clinical status of patients by getting lab parameters like LFT and E,U,CR etc. but u did not ask.did u?

on govt policy and how is being made and changed frequently u would never understand and if u understand u would never accept. get close to govt u will know better. on health policy u need more research so u can tell me new thing. for now let us go sleep as we agreed.

joshuapharm:

U always like to prolong things don't you? Adeola reminded you that u asked for advise on which malaria drug was best shey? That was because u said u didn't employ a pharmacist in ur clinic. U expected me to probe liver and renal function? U must be high on Valium! If u wanted to know which drug was safe for some1 who has high ALT or AST levels, then u shud av stated, do I work for you?.. I would av commented on that now, but NO!.. And I told u in my last post that when it goes up and come down, do all the tests in this world, it would still come down to one of the drugs I mentioned. Buh u shud have known which drugs to use since u don't need pharmacists in ur clinic!! Lmaoooo, U see ur life? Enjoy ur sleep doc!

dr_joshua2000: PharmD is less than a masters degree, its even a glorified BSC with a doctor name, crazy degree in my opinion. Several countries do it for just 4 years. Imagine nurses asking for doctor in nursing degree as a 6 years course, lab scientist asking for doctor of lab science to be a 6 years course. Their sole aim is to bear the name doctor and be at par with physicians. But no matter how long a driver studies he won't be a pilot, though some drivers are asking to be called pilots these days in the same spirit with pharmacists and the other bandits tagged health workers. If you want to be a doctors go to the university and study medicine no one is stopping you @ least I dumped physiology for medicine. Naija is the funniest place

dr_joshua2000: PharmD is less than a masters degree, its even a glorified BSC with a doctor name, crazy degree in my opinion. Several countries do it for just 4 years. Imagine nurses asking for doctor in nursing degree as a 6 years course, lab scientist asking for doctor of lab science to be a 6 years course. Their sole aim is to bear the name doctor and be at par with physicians. But no matter how long a driver studies he won't be a pilot, though some drivers are asking to be called pilots these days in the same spirit with pharmacists and the other bandits tagged health workers. If you want to be a doctors go to the university and study medicine no one is stopping you @ least I dumped physiology for medicine. Naija is the funniest place

Dr young: With the recent post from Laalamed and Dr Joshua I bow out. Internet warriors. Both of you are contradicting each other immensely that it makes the noble profession of medicine a joke. Unfollowing straight-up.

Laalamed:

nonsense.olodo.