Buraidah said: "A woman of Ghamid came to the Prophet and said: "I have committed fornication", He said: "Go back". She returned and on the next day she came to him again, and said: "Perhaps you want to send me back as you did to Maiz b. Malik. I swear by Allah, I am pregnant." He said to her: "Go back". She then returned and came to him the next day. He said to her: "Go back until you give birth to the child." She then returned. When she gave birth to the child she brought the child to him, and said: "Here it is! I have given birth to it." He said: "Go back, and suckle him until you wean him." When she had weaned him, she brought him to him with something in his hand which he was eating. The boy was then given to a certain man of the Muslims and he (the prophet) commanded regarding her. So a pit was dug for her, and he gave orders about her and she was stoned to death. Khalid was one of those who were throwing stones at her. He threw a stone at her. When a drop of blood fell on his cheek, he abused her. The prophet said to him: "Gently, Khalid. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, she has repented to such an extent that if one who wrongfully takes an extra tax were to repent to a like extent, he would be forgiven". Then giving command regarding her, prayed over her and she was buried." Hadith of Abu Dawud, #4428

It is clear from the above that a woman who committed sin was killed despite genuine repentance. That shows repentance is not a guarantee for forgiveness of sin in Islam.

Since repentance is not a sure requirement for forgiveness, what hope do muslims have to go to heaven as no unforgiven sinner will be allowed in?

Are muslims not gambling with their eternal lives?

her punishment in this case is her repentance because she had made her punishable sin public and by herself demanded for the punishment, repeated until she got it.

others might have committed the same sin, but did not make it public, instead kept it a secret and seek repentance from the "One" Who can forgive him/her similar in seeking when the bible reported that Jesus called the "One" Who can save him and his call was heard.


in islam the door of mercy [barb rahmah] is opened, always.

so when you keep your sin secret and do not take it to the street as if proud of it, but seek repentance in secret, God is forgiving, full of mercy.


Allaah said

"Not a word does he (or she) utter but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it).” [50:16-18]

“But verily, over you (are appointed angels in charge of mankind) to watch you,
Kiraman (Honourable) Katibeen —writing down (your deeds),
They know all that you do.” [82:10-12]

“And indeed We have created man, and We know what his own self whispers to him. And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (by Our Knowledge).
(Remember) that the two receivers (recording angels) receive (each human being), one sitting on the right and one on the left (to note his or her actions).
Not a word does he (or she) utter but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it).” [50:16-18]

Allaah'ѕ мєя¢у σνєя υѕ ↴

When you do a good deed it will be written for you ten times or above up to 700 or even above that, the likes of it, but if you commit sin, it will be written you committed it once.

Let's see another benevolent from Allaah ↴

It was reported from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The angel on the left does not write down anything until six hours have passed after a Muslim does a bad deed. If he regrets it and asks Allah for forgiveness, he casts it aside [does not write it down], otherwise he writes down one (sayyiah/bad deed).”

Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Mu’jam al-Kabeer, 8/158.

The hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 2/212

still the inhabitant of hell are the majority one wonder how come.

Surely those who will go to hell only have themselves to blame, GOD is not an injustice GOD.

May GOD have mercy on us.

Sorry RoyPCain, your assertions are not only incorrect but unacceptable as well.

Firstly, true, the woman asked for punishment of her sin but she did not ask for death because she must have been aware of the type of punishment for the type of sin she committed. She must have been waiting to be flogged:

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
Qur'an 24:2

Why was she killed instead of being beaten?

Secondly, sin of fornication according to allah does not deserve mercy. Made public or secret. "Let not compassion move you in their case". There is no forgiveness for such a sin even if made secret to man, allah will surely punish it, probably in Hell.

[b]I repeat, what hope of heaven do muslims who have ONCE committed fornication have, taking into consideration that allah does not have compassion for such a sin?b]

If allah is so merciful as you have tried to make people believe, why was Muhammad not punished by allah for killing the woman despite her repentance?

^You only show your disbelief. The Prophet (SAW) through whom the Qur'an was revealed knew the verse in question and applied the extant punishment for adultery which is stoning.

In Islam, you don't just take a verse and translate it any way you choose. If you are going to believe that the Prophet (SAW) transmitted the verse you quoted, then you must agree that he applied the correct rule for adultery by his Sunnah which is an integral part of Islamic law. You cannot believe in one without believing in the other. Read more with this link http://muslim-responses.com/The_Punishment_of_Sexual_Immorality/The_Punishment_of_Sexual_Immorality_

In Islam, death is not seen as an end with your relationship with God. Hence, it is absurd to imply that because the lady faced capital punishment, she cannot receive God's mercy. You are simply projecting Christian beliefs into Islam.

God's special grace and mercy applies to some in this life, for others in Barzakh (the intermediate life of the dead) and for some on the day of judgement.

Your further arguments are redundant because they only prove your disbelief in Islam which is not new.

i see that you want your own answers, instead of the truth, in spite of the efforts of the muslims trying to educate you.

since you can research and quote verses that seem appropriate, please search and find the verses that say; 1]. obey God and His Messenger [sa]. 2]. if you love Allah, follow His Messenger [sa], Allah will love you back and will forgive you your sins, and make your way easy. 3]. whatever the messenger [sa] permits you, take, and whatever he forbids you, do not do.

the above are evidences that the Messenger [sa] was instructed 'outside' of Quran, like in sunnah and hadith. so when a married person whose illegal intercourse is ruled upon, he is stoned because he had a partner who he could have had the event with, but deprived her instead. that is different from unmarried person who commits the same offense. he is flogged as Umar [RA] did of his son in his reign. and you could be flogged to death, too. son of Umar died at the 80th stroke. but his fathe gave his lifeless body the remaining 20, because it was the command, except that he died before the full punishment was carried out.

Umar [RA} said that he dreamed later and saw his late son saying it was the 20 strokes completing his punishment after his death that got him to paradise [similar to if your eyes are to make you sin [even before the sin] pluck them out for its better to be a blind man in christian heaven than fully seeing man in the lake of hell of the christians], since it was not the death that was prescribed, but 100 lashes. you see obedience is very central to our faith, remembering one sure evidence that Ibrahim [AS} was a muslim, since he obeyed him Lord when he tried to slaughter his son Ismail [as].


our hope is obedience and repentance of seeking forgiveness is part of obedience. your condemnation is believing in one prophet who you elevated to position of God or His son when there is no possible need for any, and your rejection of others or downgrading many [as].

I got all your explanations clearly but the point remains they pose more questions

1. I don't think there is need for anyone to give a different explanation for or interpret any statement that is unambiguous in meaning. Anybody who commits sin of fornication should be given 100 lashes. Simple. How do lashes resemble stoning? I am sure it is not all those who were given 100 stripes that died in the process, why not give the lady the exact punishment she deserved?


2. True, death is not an end of relationship with God but on the Day of Judgment there is no more room for forgiveness. If there is, everybody will go to heaven. Any religion that teaches repentance and forgiveness after death is deception as there is no such things.

3. Remember allah does not have mercy or compassion for a sin of fornication, meaning there is no forgiveness for it. By implication, you either get 100 stripes or go to hell. Then the unanswered question: if a muslim committed fornication and did not get the stripes as is the case with many, what hope of heaven does that person have?

004.016
YUSUFALI: If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful

4. "If they repent and amend, Leave them alone". The woman repented genuinely according to Muhammad, why was she not left alone?

5. How do you determine the repentance and amend of somebody caught in the very act?

^Your assertions are false and reflect your disbelief. Like I said earlier, Muslims don't interpret the Qur'an the way you seek to do. The verse was revealed through the Prophet (SAW) and he made the distinction between fornication and adultery in its implementation. You cannot follow the Qur'an without following the Prophet (SAW). That you don't accept it is one of the reasons you disbelieve in Islam and that we accept it makes us believers.


#QED

I got all your explanations clearly but the point remains they pose more questions

1[/b]. I don't think there is need for anyone to give a different explanation for or interpret any statement that is unambiguous in meaning. Anybody who commits sin of fornication should be given 100 lashes. Simple. How do lashes resemble stoning? I am sure it is not all those who were given 100 stripes that died in the process, why not give the lady the exact punishment she deserved?


[b]2[/b]. True, death is not an end of relationship with God but on the Day of Judgment there is no more room for forgiveness. If there is, everybody will go to heaven. Any religion that teaches repentance and forgiveness after death is deception as there is no such things.

[b]3. Remember Allah does not have mercy or compassion for a sin of fornication, meaning there is no forgiveness for it. By implication, you either get 100 stripes or go to hell. Then the unanswered question: if a muslim committed fornication and did not get the stripes as is the case with many, what hope of heaven does that person have?

004.016
YUSUFALI: If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful

4[/b]. "If they repent and amend, Leave them alone". The woman repented genuinely according to Muhammad, why was she not left alone?

[b]5.[b][/b] How do you determine the repentance and amend of somebody caught in the very act?

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
Qur'an 24:2

allah did not make any distinction in the punishment of both fornication and adultery. As it affects the woman so is the man.

Do muslims have the liberty to twist allah's words as it pleases them?

Rolling on the floor in laughter. Muslims trying to justify stoning of women for adultery 1400 years later while the man goes scottfree.

@cleanvessel; The one who knows what a verse means and who can explain it best among human is Muhammad [SA]. remember he is the one the Quran is revealed to for 'all nations of the whole wide world'?

you are a non muslim and your disbelieving way is why you are telling us what the weight of punishment of unmarried and married is exactly the same. being married makes the sin even more grievous. A married person has a partner to put out the ember of passion, legally. there is no reason to stray. none at all and the punishment will be greater than the one who is burning and there is no legal means with a partner. The mercy of Allah is shown on the single by being flogged and the mercy of Allah is shown the community by flogging of the single and stoning of the married so as to deter each offenses from becoming a norm.

let me give you a simple explanation that may help you. i often read about theft or the flim flam of the yahoo yahoos. should their punishment be greater than that of the wealthy who robs the massed or should it be truly less? if a hungry man steal a love of bread, is the scandal the same level as if a wealthy commits the same offense? is there any good reason for the wealthy person to steal what he can afford without great effort which i think for sure what reason should a man with wife in the house ready for him to go out and stray in the glare of everyone?


muslims do not repent to anyone but to God alone. but a muslim who confesses his sin to the community, did not hid his sin from the community, even though he has repented to Allah, the ruling is that the punishment that is applicable must be applied [there is an app for that].


Allah says He forgives all sins. He may forgive all if you are to die on it [may Allah not make us die on any of them], except that He does not forgive if you die on disbelief; non Islamic Faith. The start of victory as on the path of repentance is Allah alone is worthy of worship and Muhammad [SA} is the last Messenger.



@basilico; man is unjust and since males dominate the society, the evil of man in spite of claiming to be believers, the ignore the laws when it comes to the powerful and influential, but punish the poor and the powerless. the punish woman and turn blind eyes when it comes to man. But the ruling of Islam is applicable to all muslims, equally even though the muslims may be unjust in their ways of applying it because of hypocrisy. so laugh at the muslims but not at islam.