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Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by farolee(m): 3:14pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: So churches are not suppose 2 support the poor is that what you are saying? is not scriptural to support/help the poor and broadcast it to the world.church all over the world dish out billions to help the poor ,but the reward is cancell when you let one one knows what u gave the other hand.that more reason you dont see responds from churches to defend wht they give. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 3:26pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
InvertedHammer: /hehehe and what about those letter Paul wrote to the churches Did he just say, 'win their souls and leave them hungry?' What did Jesus Christ do with the multitude that came to hear the good news? Did he preach or share the word the send them home What did the first church do in the Acts of the Apostles So much for being Christlike mtcheeew!! 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by alex1612: 3:32pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: So churches are not suppose 2 support the poor is that what you are saying?Churches support less privilege often. Do you want them to put it own media before you know? It should not be in such a way that you do to advertise church, doing good but unto God alone. My own do, for Prisoners, sick in hospital, for refuges, scholarships for students, orphans, widows and the rest, if you care to know. Don't ask me the name pls. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by pri3stess(f): 3:43pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
nwanna89: Attended an RCCG service in US recently. One pastor came from nigeria for a four-day event. The first day, he told church members to sow a seed in their life by dropping $500 each. The next day, he told the same church members to sow yet another seed in their lives with $1200. Didnt attend the third day, but am sure it wouldve been the same. In other words, a pauper attending the church cannot also gain from God's blessings.Really? Wow I would have given that man a very deafening slap for spewing such rubbish and I don't care if I was in church, I'm sure even God was angry at him for what he said. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by CharliParker: 3:43pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Lets emulate from TB JOSHUA he is a good example, he has no private jet but he insist in helping people not only in Nigeria but around the world, thats why God is blessing him the more, not private Jet this time 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by pri3stess(f): 3:47pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
InvertedHammer: /SMH Seriously some of you all will go to hell with fuel on your clothes. Mtcheewwwww 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by oselenkejoor: 3:52pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
See how you spewing balderdash! Wait a minute! what do you think the church is? The Church is not some tall cathedral or building. We all are the Church, we are the body of Christ! The basic problem with an average Nigerian is the mindset disorientation, we lament and proclaim our woes about the country, this is bad, things are not working. The question should be How are you yourself helping the poor in your neighbourhood. Dont join people to talk down on the church, you are not only sinning against yourself but against the Holy Spirit. Ukuts gp: Are churches really helping the poor and the less priviledge in our society? considering the way pastors are buying jets, building mega churches worth billions of naira, cruising on an expensive cars even when some members hardly feed and takes care of their families. When you look at churches you will discover that they hardly help the poor and the unemployed members to stand on their feet financially. Building mega churches, buying private jets is not my problem, but helping the needy and unemployed is. My point is churches should contribute to helping the less priviledge in the church and society in general, that is what jesus is expecting churches to be doing and not the other way round. Now the question is: are churches helping the poor and needy in our society today or not? Give your candid opinion. Thanks. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Johnnny(m): 3:52pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
farolee: alex1612: But is it scriptural for Pastors to live flamboyant lifestyles, extravagance and pompous lives like priests of old. Some have even turn the church to business centres by selling Miracle soaps, anointing oils, vests etc. Forgeting that they are doing the same thing Jesus went against in the temple, when he destroyed the tables of people selling such items as these. 5 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 3:53pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
CharliParker: Lets emulate from TB JOSHUA he is a good example, he has no private jet but he insist in helping people not only in Nigeria but around the world, thats why God is blessing him the more, not private Jet this timeGod blessed Nigeria with that man, he just inspires me truth be told. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by nedostic: 3:55pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
In my own submission, I think some churches are trying their best to salvage the situation but we need to equally note that the church is just a minute segment of the society. We ALL owe it to ourselves mostly those of us who professed the LORD JESUS CHRIST as our SAVIOUR to do all we can to help those who are in need. We should not see the poor as being poor for the reason that they are lazy or lack resilience but rather the poor are usually poor for the mere reason that they lack 'some' opportunities to turn around their vulnerable socio-economic state. Methinks, one of the core challenges of the 'modern church' has to do with over emphasis on 'materialism' and less of pragmatic brotherly love. The main theme of christianity is love with charity. LOVE for God and love for human kind! Love in its purest form can be seen as a demonstrative act rather than mere rhethorics. Love is ALL about 'giving' and mostly paying attention to the needy. Lastly, the church has to do more in this regard BUT the onus is on the government to equally come up with palliative measures on curbing poverty by creating jobs for the Nigerian populace most notably vulnerable groups such as rural dwellers, women and youths. Pax Vobiscum! 4 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Nobody: 3:56pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Frankly speaking they are not helping at all. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by HumbledbYGrace(f): 3:56pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Johnnny:let me add to this, some even sell pens for examinations o. 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Fussbot: 4:02pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
abe tie ya were gaan ni? Everyday church sps do dis sps do dat,na ur church sps dey giv u money for food na... U wey dey talk,how much u don give church mae in use 4 charity?mtscheew and bout pastors driving big cars,go and find out bout dos who contributed to the money 4 d pastors car,THEY CAN NEVER BE POOR,al d church members dat are poor are simply STINGY...mtscheew |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by sale1: 4:05pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: Dnt u hv eyes to see d number of poor people in church. Many ar dancing, singing on an empty stomach and behaving as if nothing is wrong but all is nt well. If church can be using the tithe money to meet d need of members wouldnt it be better instead of storing it in banks and member ar suffering? Ask urself. 1.Are they no poor Muslims in our society? 2.Are the imam cooking food for their follow Muslim worshipers in the mosque? 3.And how does this lau lau spending of this pastors affect u? watch wah u say b4 God will punish ur mouth, @least they use their money to buy jet not to sponsor boko haram 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by CharliParker: 4:07pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
The 3 things that will ever last HOPE, FAITH,AND LOVE the greatest is LOVE ,and it requres a great sacrifice, 1 corinth 13vs 13. We should love one another, and also help the needy |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by SlimShawty(f): 4:09pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
I know three teenagers(siblings) in my church who're orphaned.When their parents died,they were left with nothing.The members of the church took responsibility. The eldest gained admission into Covenant University,under the sponsorship of the church.The two younger ones attend good schools here in ph,under the sponsorship of the church.Infact,you'd never believe that they're orphans. Every quarter of the year,there's a samaritan week in my church.Clothes,shoes,foodstuff,and money are given to the poor and needy.Sometimes,collective units in the church take it upon themselves to start up businesses for those who lack capital to do so on their own. And there's also the church bursary that comes up every year...infact the list is endless. Not all pastors are wont to televise,or announce their charity works with gongs and loud trumpets.Some prefer to do it quietly. And as for the church members...who told u they're suffering?Have you ever walked past a church compound and wondered if it's a car shop or if there's a car sale going on there?? I have.Lotsa times,trust me. As far as I'm concerned,churches are trying,even more than the government.Shikenah. 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Pastor Kun:ACTUALLY THE HUGRY LAZY PEOPLE GET EXTORTED THINKIN THEY ARE INVESTING THEIR MONEY @THE END OF THE DAY PASTOR WINS HE SMILES 2 THA BANK WHILE THE HUNGRY LANGUISH UT INTERESTINGLY THEY CLAIM THEY R NOT WRETCHED AND KEEP DOLING OUT THEIR HAD EARNED CASH 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by masotemi: 4:14pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
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Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by childluck(m): 4:15pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Many people in here are hypocrites and it is indeed shameless that we can still be biased along ethnic and religious lines at this age. What is wrong about questioning the activities of the religious bodies ?? Is man made for religion or religion was made for man Christians in here, like myself, should be more open minded and deal with realistic perspectives instead of sentiments that will benefit us not. This is not a bad question in its self even though the intention may be questionable The truth however is that most christians today have allowed themselves to be enslaved by religion even when the Bible says " You should question all spririts ..." 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Mintayo(m): 4:19pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Slim Shawty: I know three teenagers(siblings) in my church who're orphaned.When their parents died,they were left with nothing.The members of the church took responsibility.Church are really trying,thanks for the above,more than the government sef,the church are trying. What people want is that,churches should start announcing on TV or radio on how they help the poor,they want the church to start broadcasting it that they help the poor...smh. Jesus said we should do things in secrets and our Father in heaven will reward us openly. I wonder how many poor people have been helped by the peolple condemning churches in this thread,smh. May God help us. 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by childluck(m): 4:19pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
very well said. Slim Shawty: I know three teenagers(siblings) in my church who're orphaned.When their parents died,they were left with nothing.The members of the church took responsibility. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Nobody: 4:21pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
CrazyMan: Who told you CAN president is not help the poor .go to warri and ask things for yourself before typing what you do not know.must a person announce to the whole world that he wants to help,a good example is T.B Joshua.other pastors are helping but not advertisingadvertising. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Oloriebi22(m): 4:28pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
church help ke?? 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Pattey(m): 4:37pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
stagger: Point of Order! You and your wife give to the needy thru the church, NOT Oyedepo using the church's money to cater to the needy instead of re-stocking his arsenal of diverse luxuries! |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by 1009ja: 4:47pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Some of our supposedly houses of our Lord have lost their ways. The church leaders are in the ministry for mostly selfish reasons and that has dragged the church down. There is something morally wrong when a church leader has four luxury jets when church members are not able to send their own children to same school that their church owns and for which they are heavily 'taxed' by the church. In Nigeria, the ministry for the most part, has become a comercial enterprise, a corrupt one. |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by pbling: 4:54pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
no tru profet al i c r moni profet,dey ll tel u our God is a richli God |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by royalexcel2: 4:54pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Virgin Finder: Mind your business and leave the churches alone. Thank you.MY dear , the truth must be told , it is for the benefit of the body of Christ , to shame the devil and exalt the Name of the Lord . 1 Like |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Pattey(m): 4:56pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
I will say this again; The Old Missionary Churches did a lot for Nigeria. They gave us hospitals, schools, portable water and countless social amenities. As at 1942-50 if I'm not mistaken, 97% of educated people in Nigeria were products of missionary schools. What are the new generation churches doing today besides enriching church coffers and pastor's vaults with the Widow's mite? What a shame! Mind you, the old churches did not even develop Nigeria with indigenous tithes and offering! I mean, how much did we have back then? They were bring the church's money from overseas to come and develop our society. Today, churches making money even here on Nigerian soil are not making adequate efforts to live up to the creeds handed down to them by Christ. What a shame! 2 Likes |
Re: Are Churches Really Helping The Poor And Unemployed In Our Society Today? by Anniettieufia(m): 4:57pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
Good question, Good answers expected, For instance , What is the name of your NGO ? How do you distribute your resources to the less privilege? How many students are you paying their fees ? 1 Like |
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