PastorKun:


Don't mind the useless hypocrite.

God bless you useful pastorkun.

Does your church ever use Malachi in teaching the voluntary practice of tithing? A simple Yes/No will do

Bidam:
God bless you useful pastorkun.

trustman:


Look at the question you were asked:


Then look at your answer.
What do you make of that?

I say again that we may have to conclude that Mark, pastorkun and others have rightly labelled you.

vooks:
Does your church ever use Malachi in teaching the voluntary practice of tithing? A simple Yes/No will do

A modern day pharisee with unreasonable questions set to trap me. Is Malachi not a scripture?

Malachi is as inspired as the rest of the 65 books my brother.
Do they use Malachi in your church to teach voluntary tithing?

Bidam:


A modern day pharisee with unreasonable questions set to trap me. Is Malachi not a scripture?

Bidam:


A modern day pharisee with unreasonable questions set to trap me. Is Malachi not a scripture?

What trap?
A simple question is asked and you are going round in circles.

Is Leviticus 3 not scripture?
Do you Bidam follow it today?

So does your church teach tithing using Malachi?

vooks:
Malachi is as inspired as the rest of the 65 books my brother.
Do they use Malachi in your church to teach voluntary tithing?

Yes not only malachi but the whole scriptures in givings.

Thank you my brother,
Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing as voluntary giving.
Do they quote Malachi 3:8,9 and 11?

Bidam:
Yes not only malachi but the whole scriptures in givings.

Am i under any obligation to answer frivolous questions? Why the fixation on my church doctrines?

trustman:


What trap?
A simple question is asked and you are going round in circles.

Is Leviticus 3 not scripture?
Do you Bidam follow it today?

So does your church teach tithing using Malachi?

My brother, you are under no obligation to divulge nothing

Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing as voluntary giving.
Do they quote Malachi 3:8,9 and 11?

Bidam:
Am i under any obligation to answer frivolous questions? Why the fixation on my church doctrines?

vooks:
My brother, you are under no obligation to divulge nothing
Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing as voluntary giving.
Do they quote Malachi 3:8,9 and 11?

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Chei, see kweshun naw....

I don't think that guy you asking that kweshun knows what's hidden in that question, neither does he understand the question completely. But, I'm watching online.....hope he gets it. .

Someone will have to see the irony in that kweshun in order to be bold to answer it. Lemme watch and see though.

Goshen360:


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Chei, see kweshun naw....

I don't think that guy you asking that kweshun knows what's hidden in that question, neither does he understand the question completely. But, I'm watching online.....hope he gets it. .

Someone will have to see the irony in that kweshun in order to be bold to answer it. Lemme watch and see though.

My friend go siddon. I am under no obligation to answer foolish and unlearned questions. The guy is just here to win an argument not to teach. He lacks humility.

vooks:
My brother, you are under no obligation to divulge nothing

Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing as voluntary giving.
Do they quote Malachi 3:8,9 and 11?

Yawn. Like i said since you are deaf, we don't invoke curses on antitithers and non tithers, we use Malachi to teach tithing not that i have heard it in my church anyway. Givings is the least things we teach in church. There are other weightier matters we teach.

Bidam:
Yawn. Like i said since you are deaf, we don't invoke curses on antitithers and non tithers, we use Malachi to teach tithing not that i have heard it in my church anyway. Givings is the least things we teach in church. There are other weightier matters we teach.

What exactly are you saying here?
Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing?
But you've never heard it (tithing teaching)in your church?

trustman:


What exactly are you saying here?
Your church uses Malachi to teach tithing?
But you've never heard it (tithing teaching)in your church?

what's with the repetition? Have you run out of your silly questions?

My brother,
You use Malachi to teach tithing but you haven't heard it in your church? Which is it? Do you you read those verses I shared?

Bidam:
Yawn. Like i said since you are deaf, we don't invoke curses on antitithers and non tithers, we use Malachi to teach tithing not that i have heard it in my church anyway. Givings is the least things we teach in church. There are other weightier matters we teach.

vooks:
My brother,
You use Malachi to teach tithing but you haven't heard it in your church? Which is it? Do you you read those verses I shared?

And i ask you what's with the repetition?

vooks:
Does your church ever use Malachi in teaching the voluntary practice of tithing? A simple Yes/No will do

Please don't be so hard on Bidam.He has just admitted he is from a Muslim background.Now that he is willing to learn the truth about tithing as a Christian,it is up to you guys to nurture him to understand this thiefry better rather than condeming him.Pls let us be fair on him.

My brother,
It is well.

Bidam:
And i ask you what's with the repetition?

chysam:


Please don't be so hard on Bidam.He has just admitted he is from a Muslim background.Now that he is willing to learn the truth about tithing as a Christian,it is up to you guys to nurture him to understand this thiefry better rather than condeming him.Pls let us be fair on him.

No, you don't get it. I am just bored and tired of disgruntled and frustrated folks who opened tithes threads and take it out on tithers. This thread wasn't opened yesterday, the question is why the fixation on only tithes? why not go and sort it out with God himself. I wouldn't have bothered commenting here if my monikker wasn't mentioned on countless occasion with attacks and bile on my person. Atleast the bible admonish us to be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, and you can see who is asking questions in an arrogant and rudeless manner as if i am accountable to him because i give tithes. Coming from a muslim background is not the issue here, i stated it to defend my stance on the fact that i have not seen any pastor rain curses on those who don't tithe.

What i have gleaned on this forum since i came in is that tithing maybe a preeminent doctrine in some of these folks churches hence their bitterness and frustration. Maybe due to the way pastors in their churches demand tithes which i perceive is more out of a desire for, or a perceive right to income rather than a welfare of the church.

In their churches, pastors use manipulation and fear to motivate them to give and the misapplication of this teaching has in many cases divided the people of God and so in this case everyone is seeking his own good rather than the Body. I will advise you to prayerfully study scripture and see why God acknowledge some givings and reject some like that of cain and abel. Truth is one. God isn't interested in sacrifice of fools but the motive and the heart of the giver. Tithing is about worship to God whether it is 1%,10%,22% . Prayer is not compulsory,fasting is not compulsory,studying your bible is not compulsory, Going to church is not compulsory, no one is advocating you are going to hell when you do not put into practice these things. Bless you.

vooks:
My brother,
It is well.

It is well without your say so. Bless you.

Just make up your mind whether your church uses Malachi 3:9-12 or not. You have the whole day to tie yourself in knots

Bidam:
It is well without your say so. Bless you.

Easy solution for Bidam...

If you're tired of tithe threads, don't enter into them.

Bidam:
Tithing is about worship to God whether it is 1%,10%,22% . Prayer is not compulsory,fasting is not compulsory,studying your bible is not compulsory, Going to church is not compulsory, no one is advocating you are going to hell when you do not put into practice these things. Bless you.

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Bidam:
No, you don't get it. I am just bored and tired of disgruntled and frustrated folks who opened tithes threads and take it out on tithers. This thread wasn't opened yesterday, the question is why the fixation on only tithes? why not go and sort it out with God himself. I wouldn't have bothered commenting here if my monikker wasn't mentioned on countless occasion with attacks and bile on my person. Atleast the bible admonish us to be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, and you can see who is asking questions in an arrogant and rudeless manner as if i am accountable to him because i give tithes. Coming from a muslim background is not the issue here, i stated it to defend my stance on the fact that i have not seen any pastor rain curses on those who don't tithe.

What i have gleaned on this forum since i came in is that tithing maybe a preeminent doctrine in some of these folks churches hence their bitterness and frustration. Maybe due to the way pastors in their churches demand tithes which i perceive is more out of a desire for, or a perceive right to income rather than a welfare of the church.

In their churches, pastors use manipulation and fear to motivate them to give and the misapplication of this teaching has in many cases divided the people of God and so in this case everyone is seeking his own good rather than the Body. I will advise you to prayerfully study scripture and see why God acknowledge some givings and reject some like that of cain and abel. Truth is one. God isn't interested in sacrifice of fools but the motive and the heart of the giver. Tithing is about worship to God whether it is 1%,10%,22% . Prayer is not compulsory,fasting is not compulsory,studying your bible is not compulsory, Going to church is not compulsory, no one is advocating you are going to hell when you do not put into practice these things. Bless you.

Bidam has now suddenly turned into not only now a mind reader but also a seer. He knows what is happening in the minds of other discussants as well as their churches. 

Unfortunately unlike he thinks those of us who are not for the 'forced' tithing are not taking it out on tithers. We are only letting them see the folly of their position.  

To sort it out with God like Bidam advised is to ask: 
  'What does God's word say about it?', 'How does God's word say it should be done or practiced?'
'Am I following the way God's word says I should do it, if it is meant for me?'
Anything else is man-devised system that may be operating outside God's prescribed way. 

None of us on this side is bitter and frustrated like Bidam wants very much to assume. We are standing firm in the liberty we have in Christ. 

Anything, including GIVING, not done in line with God's way becomes wood, hay and chaff before Him. Recall the Pharisees who gave and prayed (legitimate things) but did them for the wrong reasons: Jesus said they already had their rewards - they wanted the praise of men and got it. 

If you tithe because you want to assuage your conscience, or satisfy your church or present a scorecard before others then you may succeed in meeting those goals. But only a right motive will please God. 

vooks:
Just make up your mind whether your church uses Malachi 3:9-12 or not. You have the whole day to tie yourself in knots

On the contrary i don't. Except you disbelieve that all scripture are not inspired by your Jewish God.

MarkMiwerds:
Easy solution for Bidam...

If you're tired of tithe threads, don't enter into them.

I won't if you stop mentioning my moniker.

trustman:
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Bidam has now suddenly turned into not only now a mind reader but also a seer. He knows what is happening in the minds of other discussants as well as their churches. 

Unfortunately unlike he thinks those of us who are not for the 'forced' tithing are not taking it out on tithers. We are only letting them see the folly of their position.  

To sort it out with God like Bidam advised is to ask: 
  'What does God's word say about it?', 'How does God's word say it should be done or practiced?'
'Am I following the way God's word says I should do it, if it is meant for me?'
Anything else is man-devised system that may be operating outside God's prescribed way. 

None of us on this side is bitter and frustrated like Bidam wants very much to assume. We are standing firm in the liberty we have in Christ. 

Anything, including GIVING, not done in line with God's way becomes wood, hay and chaff before Him. Recall the Pharisees who gave and prayed (legitimate things) but did them for the wrong reasons: Jesus said they already had their rewards - they wanted the praise of men and got it. 

If you tithe because you want to assuage your conscience, or satisfy your church or present a scorecard before others then you may succeed in meeting those goals. But only a right motive will please God. 

You can twist whatever you feel like twisting. Your conscience is your judge.

shdemidemi:


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Yeah, just like a fool that says in his heart there is no God.

My brother,
Who disbelieved what? Please don't be rude
I think of al the tithing crew you are the sobermost dude here.
When will you share with me the story of your conversion?

Bidam:
On the contrary i don't. Except you disbelieve that all scripture are not inspired by your Jewish God.

vooks:

My brother,
Who disbelieved what? Please don't be rude
I think of al the tithing crew you are the sobermost dude here.
When will you share with me the story of your conversion?

Ok, keep up with your delusions and dishonesty. I think i have your time this morning.

My broda,
You are bitter and angry. Relax

Bidam:
Ok, keep up with your delusions and dishonesty. I think i have your time this morning.

vooks:
My broda,
You are bitter and angry. Relax

Who? that's a laff! am as cool as cucumber, who has an issue with God's tithe? definitely not me.