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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 11, 2013
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by 01mcfadden(m): 5:54pm On Oct 11, 2013
aboki pilot....ewu gambia

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by manny4life(m): 5:55pm On Oct 11, 2013
ba7man: Enforcing safe practices in Aviation is far more important than analyzing a Black Box in Nigeria.

If there are no Plane crashes, there won't be Black box analysis. Why walk through Refurbished Airports to board rickety, unsafe Planes??

Yeah the airplane was old but what's rickety about the plane? From the look of things, this looks like "PILOT ERROR".
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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by manny4life(m): 5:57pm On Oct 11, 2013
I suggested that NCAA should re-certify all PILOTS in Nigeria as part of their improvement process, many pilot do not go for recurrent training, and thus forget little things that can save them.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by delegiwa(m): 5:58pm On Oct 11, 2013
We should do the right thing and stop blaming anyone for the result of our 'stewpidity'. If you don't look left and right (and up in the case of 9ja) and cross the road and get hit by a trailer, your people shouldn't blame the government. If a pilot decides to trust his 20yrs experience and ignore an aircraft system warning. He should also take the blame when shyte happens.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by idlaw2k3(m): 5:59pm On Oct 11, 2013
We will manage it...... That was just what the pilot was thinking, after all the flight is less than 45mins. undecided

That is the attitude of Nigerians in general.

We can manage anything in this country,

rickety cars? no problem, we import them and manage it!,

unsafe boats we get on them and manage it,

even bad Governments officials who are supposed enforce laws meant to protect the public
we manage them.
After all it did not start today.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by naijaking1: 6:00pm On Oct 11, 2013
baybiemee: And a heartless fellow said it was an act of God

Why are people so criminally ignorant. Are you calling for the ministers head because she said it was an act of God? It shows that you have never carried a standard insurance from reputable companies, if you did you would understand "an act of God" clause inserted just about everywhere.
Rain, thunder storm, volcano, bad weather, etc are internationally and industrially referred to as 'an act of God'. It doesn't mean juju as we know it(unless those juju have power to create bad weather, volcano, or storm, which I doubt)
What is wrong with a minister presuming an act of God before details are known? Nothing!
Except that Nigerians are so ignorant, and so much so that it bothers on criminality.

Is the minister also responsible for the poor educational background of the pilots

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by ceejayluv(m): 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013
ba7man: Enforcing safe practices in Aviation is far more important than analyzing a Black Box in Nigeria.

If there are no Plane crashes, there won't be Black box analysis. Why walk through Refurbished Airports to board rickety, unsafe Planes??
Wrong! There can never be NO plane crashes. No matter the stringent regulations, an accident is an accident...

For the records, check out the
American Air accidents records...
www.airsafe.com/events/us_ten.htm
The inevitable will always happen.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by lertee(f): 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013
MillionDollars: like this post if u tink d DEVIL is a liar!
Lol,are you trying to be funny? undecided
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013
picoba:
The pilot sound to be an half bake pilot. Education system in Nigeria!
I guess the pilot had is training here in Nigeria.


4 ur mind u sabi talk nonsense.. U learnt English in Nigeria tooo

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Fullback: 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013
What wie they arguing about. Chelsea Man U??

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by PointB: 6:03pm On Oct 11, 2013
The Pilot should be posthumously charged with:
1. act of terrorism
2. multiple counts of first degree murder
3. destruction of property, and
4. Arson

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by macdelene(m): 6:03pm On Oct 11, 2013
So the pilot paid less concern abt d life of his passengers and decided to gamble wit it. He is think that there was were planestops in d air where he would park d plane if it breakdown? Its just that u can't sue d dead I would ave said d families of those decease should sue but RIP to d dead.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by theripper3: 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2013
Who actually cleared that plane for take-off and certified it air worthy?

I still find this news spurious though cuz this has to be the fastest Black box information retrieval ever.

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by ocelot2006(m): 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2013
donphilopus: why blaming him na?
Do you know whether he was coming back from suspension?
He'll be eager to pilot a plane after a year of suspension na


That is no excuse. This is a clear case of pilot error.

The captain should've listened to his FO.
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2013
picoba:
The pilot sound to be an half bake pilot. Education system in Nigeria!
I guess the pilot had is training here in Nigeria.

yup education system in naija cheesy cheesy
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by ikeyman00(m): 6:05pm On Oct 11, 2013
@@@

if the birds can't get its wing out to norm there wouldnt be enough lift: can u ignore that shocked

no flap u are looking for a stall
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by delegiwa(m): 6:05pm On Oct 11, 2013
naijaking1:

Why are people so criminally ignorant. Are you calling for the ministers head because she said it was an act of God? It shows that you have never carried a standard insurance from reputable companies, if you did you would understand "an act of God" clause inserted just about everywhere.
Rain, thunder storm, volcano, bad weather, etc are internationally and industrially referred to as 'an act of God'. It doesn't mean juju as we know it(unless those juju have power to create bad weather, volcano, or storm, which I doubt)
What is wrong with a minister presuming an act of God before details are known? Nothing!
Except that Nigerians are so ignorant, and so much so that it bothers on criminality.

Is the minister also responsible for the poor educational background of the pilots

You dey mind the olodos? Everything in this country is politics, ethinicity and religion. A plane crashes and you are already calling for the head of the aviation sector without even waiting for the result of the investigation and when the prelim report comes out, you say it has been doctored for 'political gains'; and when you think you have heard it all, someone makes up his/her own meaning of 'An Act of God'! This our society sef...

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by hardywaltz(m): 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2013
Why don't I believe this c.ork & bull story by AIB; a Pilot will fly to his death?
Blame it on the dead since they can't defend themselves

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2013
idlaw2k3: We will manage it...... That was just what the pilot was thinking, after all the flight is less than 45mins. undecided

That is the attitude of Nigerians in general.

We can manage anything in this country,

rickety cars? no problem, we import them and manage it!,

unsafe boats we get on them and manage it,

even bad Governments officials who are supposed enforce laws meant to protect the public
we manage them.
After all it did not start today.

And this is why I will never board a local flight in Nigeria.

The risk is not worth it.
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:07pm On Oct 11, 2013
Most Aircrashes recorded in history have been due to pilot error... Even the Air France Airbus that crashed in 2009 enroute Brazil to Senegal was as a result of pilot error.
If the pilot heard a warning and decided to NOT abort take off because he would lose some allowances or that the plane would be grounded, then it's Pilot error and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Do you sack the IG of police because some idiot corporal has shot some unarmed civilian over 20 Naira? There's nothing the IG can do but sack and prosecute the man! Unfortunately, the pilot isn't alive to receive his punishment but he will be remembered in ignominy.

In August, I was on an Aerocontractors flight to Lagos and as the plane was speeding for takeoff, the pilot aborted take off at the last minute. The plane was returned to the Tarmac and grounded temporarily. This shows a sane pilot who was more concerned with safety than his airline's losses and his own too. Lets criticize with sanity and caution

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:07pm On Oct 11, 2013
talk true: Captain ignored the warning message!!!

seems that way.
smh
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by wengerjay(m): 6:08pm On Oct 11, 2013
Records of Plane Crashes in Nigeria since 2011.

Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Pvin: 6:09pm On Oct 11, 2013
I suggest that a proper investigation should b carried on d life history of d pilot who ignored the warning given by the computer to see if he has any connection to d Islamic sect 'Boko'.
Nd pls, I will like to know d Nigerians who re d stakeholders in Dana airline

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by manny4life(m): 6:09pm On Oct 11, 2013
the_ripper3: Who actually cleared that plane for take-off and certified it air worthy?

What has pilot error got to do with who cleared them for takeoff?

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by 01mcfadden(m): 6:09pm On Oct 11, 2013
idlaw2k3: We will manage it...... That was just what the pilot was thinking, after all the flight is less than 45mins. undecided

That is the attitude of Nigerians in general.

We can manage anything in this country,

rickety cars? no problem, we import them and manage it!,

unsafe boats we get on them and manage it,

even bad Governments officials who are supposed enforce laws meant to protect the public
we manage them.
After all it did not start today.
they all want to be managers.
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by delegiwa(m): 6:09pm On Oct 11, 2013
the_ripper3: Who actually cleared that plane for take-off and certified it air worthy?

We shall find out soon. However bear it in mind that just as cars develop instant fault midway your journey, so do planes. We have heard of planes that developed fault just after take off and turned back to base. In this case, the prelim report SUGGESTS that it COULD be pilot error...
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by donphilopus: 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2013
ocelot2006:


That is no excuse. This is a clear case of pilot error.

The captain should've listened to his FO.
you ought to understand what i mean now, i mean the guy should be blamed
Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by Nobody: 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2013
delegiwa:

You dey mind the olodos? Everything in this country is politics, ethinicity and religion. A plane crashes and you are already calling for the head of the aviation sector without even waiting for the result of the investigation and when the prelim report comes out, you say it has been doctored for 'political gains'; and when you think you have heard it all, someone makes up his/her own meaning of 'An Act of God'! This our society sef...

For some people, common sense and research isn't their strongest points, but namecalling and mudslinging... Our society get kwashiorkor

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by DerideGull(m): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2013
naijaking1:

Why are people so criminally ignorant. Are you calling for the ministers head because she said it was an act of God? It shows that you have never carried a standard insurance from reputable companies, if you did you would understand "an act of God" clause inserted just about everywhere.
Rain, thunder storm, volcano, bad weather, etc are internationally and industrially referred to as 'an act of God'. It doesn't mean juju as we know it(unless those juju have power to create bad weather, volcano, or storm, which I doubt)
What is wrong with a minister presuming an act of God before details are known? Nothing!
Except that Nigerians are so ignorant, and so much so that it bothers on criminality.

Is the minister also responsible for the poor educational background of the pilots


Have you not heard Nigeria is filled to the brink with dingbats masquerading as pseudo-intellectuals?

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Re: Pilots Were Arguing Before Agagu's Plane Crashed - Blackbox by dellynike(f): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2013
i wont believe till i listen to the CVR.the pilot is dead so he can't defend himself as i don't think anyone would willingly fly a faulty plane.

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