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Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by maclatunji: 9:53am On Oct 18, 2013
Salam alaykum and hello to our Non-Muslim readers. A lot of the content on Nairaland from the Islam section thus far has not been related to the current experiences of Muslims in terms of personal opinions and lifestyles. I intend to change that by posting more opinion pieces and Muslim lifestyle content. I present to you Nathan Ellington speaking to the Daily Mail as part of this new initiative...



NATHAN ELLINGTON: People in football are not aware of what Muslims need to do... one manager dropped me because I was fasting even though I was not struggling

Nathan Ellington is a footballer who converted to Islam in 2005 and in his debut Footballers' Football Column he explains the challenges he has had to overcome in the game. The former Wigan, West Brom, Derby, Watford and Crewe striker explains how one manager dropped him while he was fasting during Ramadan and says there is no reason why he cannot fulfill both his football and religious commitments side by side. You can watch his video here...


Whether it's good or bad, people can speak to us, we can explain what's going on. It might be the case that a player needs something at a club, but he might feel more comfortable speaking to us then we can speak to the PFA and help them.

As a Muslim football player I encountered some problems in the past. I had one agent of mine being in the presence of a manager and when my name was brought up he'd be talking negatively about me because I'm a Muslim. I hadn't even changed that much at the time. He felt the need to say something about me. I wasn't even fasting or praying at that point.

A friend of mine called me saying players have been talking about me saying I'm praying in the corner somewhere and joking about it. It was supposed to be banter, I think. This gets around. I started getting a bad name just because I'm Muslim.

Then there was the time a manager dropped me because I was fasting. I'd started Ramadan, the month each year where Muslims around the world don't eat or drink in the hours from dawn 'til sunset, and halfway through the manager didn't realise I was doing it until someone on the training ground mentioned it.

The manager then told me he was dropping me from contention. I thought it was a joke. Then we had a more serious conversation and he said it was playing on his mind that I wasn't eating or drinking. I said I was playing before without him noticing.

I pointed out there were no signs I was struggling in any way and he should only worry if I'm not doing well, like Demba Ba has said in the past. He still dropped me to the bench, and sometimes I was not in the Squad at all.

There were times when managers, coaches and players didn't pay so much attention to what they were eating or drinking and they still played well. The fact I was doing something slightly different than they know, well it now became a problem.

I know it affects some people more than others, but If I feel that I can cope I don't see why it's a problem. I trained fine for Crewe during this Ramadan. I might get a dry mouth during running sessions. But I can still do them. I might feel more tired after training and have a nap. Your body gets used to it. But what can you do? If someone's made their mind up, you've just got to stay strong.

Younger players generally won't say anything. It's hard enough to make it as a footballer but it gets harder if they start bringing in their religion. I see young players who don't want to do certain things because it's different and they're scared to ask to pray on a Friday or ask for halal meat in the canteen or at digs where they may be staying with a family. They're compromising their religion, it shouldn't be like that.

But it's getting easier. That's why the Association of Muslim Footballers, which I played a part in setting up in 2011, is there. I was one of the first people in football to openly put myself out there as a practicing Muslim. I got judged and had to get through it.

It's like the black guys back in the day who were the first to get stick before it became easy for the rest of us. A lot of bad stuff happened, a lot behind the scenes. It was very unjustified. I try to make sure there's awareness, this is what we're about. Muslims aren't different, we're very professional.

I got a call recently to speak to a young player in a youth team because the coaches said he was a Muslim and needed help juggling training and religion. They were saying he's more interested in religion than football. I thought, hang on a minute.

When I asked the player how he was getting on I didn't get any signs that he was putting football behind anything. He was doing his best at football but he was just trying to do what he has to do within in the boundaries of his religion. It doesn't compromise his football. Why can't you do both? That sort of thing needs to change.

People need to realise you can pray five times a day and it's not a problem, it shouldn't matter to anybody else. I reverted to Islam a little while before I married my wife in 2005. It took about two years before I started praying. It wasn't straight away.

I fasted maybe for a couple of days at the beginning then more and more. At the beginning I didn't think I had to do everything. I looked at Islam in a relaxed fashion, the same way as I did Christianity. I'd been brought up as a Christian and just felt as long as you believe and you're a good person you'll be OK.

Then as I learned more and more about Islam, I realised that everything is recorded and you will be judged according to God's rules and not what I pick and choose. I built it up gradually. I didn't change completely straight away, it would have been too overwhelming to do that. It became a learning and implementing experience.

The more you learn the more you understand. You slowly change according to your knowledge. You improve yourself when you're ready. Everybody is on their own journey and they go at a pace that they feel comfortable with.

When I learned more, I began to pray more, I became excited and wanted to share my experiences with everyone. I found that a challenge because not many people are interested in religion, even more so within football culture. I found there was a time when to speak and when not to. Other people have to ask you about it.

There's no point you instigating it. In the early stages I was listening, watching and reading and really wanted to tell the world.

Part of your job as a Muslim is to make others aware of the religion. It's not just something for me, it was something for everybody. But when it came to relaying things it was difficult to remember everything. That was another challenge.

Now I get a lot of people asking me about it. When I'm not around, people want to know what I'm doing. That was a transitional part for me. If people want to understand what I'm doing I'm happy to tell them.

It was a challenge at the beginning to get used to the way of life of praying on a regular basis. I was worried about how I was seen around the clubs and with the managers.

They would say I'm too interested in religion. It's silly. On the bus I might be reading the Koran or trying to learn Arabic. Others would be betting or playing cards. That was seen as normal but mine was seen as if I wasn't interested in football anymore. Generally gambling is seen as bad in society but here it was seen as better than what I was doing. I got seen as someone not interested in football anymore. It's very frustrating.

Even now you'll hear the odd comment. Just because I practice Ramadan some people have that thought. I'm training exactly the same. The only difference is I'm practicing my faith.

Whether it's good or bad, people can speak to us, we can explain what's going on. It might be the case that a player needs something at a club, but he might feel more comfortable speaking to us then we can speak to the PFA and help them.

A player might be coming over from a different country and feel isolated. Their family might find it difficult. The culture is very different here. They can't go to nightclubs and do things like that. They need to find like-minded people and feel at home. If that's covered and they're happy, it helps.

At Christmas, clubs might have a party or go to a certain place. Muslims can't go to these places, if there is alcohol there for example. If the club understands they won't insist they come or fine them if they don't, or they might change the venue or what they do.

The player won't worry they're going to be fined for not going. That kind of thing makes the workplace better and more cohesive, mixing all religions and cultures.

In the future clubs might work with us. They could come to us wanting advice. It might be research for a player in another country they might think what will he need and they can put that to him when they offer him a contract. They might find the nearest mosque for him or cater for any needs he has.

A lot of players, managers and coaches don't know what practicing Muslim football players have to do. If they do, it makes it easier to get more success from players and teams. The more awareness the better.

Source: Daily Mail

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by DMainMan: 10:11am On Oct 18, 2013
nyc 1.
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by ummsulaym(f): 2:05pm On Oct 18, 2013
Hmmmm! Even in other fields, we have alot of muslims complaining of similar problems... I really don't know how being a practicing muslim affects productivity and/or efficiency at work if not positively... If they do not complain about this, they will complain about that...
Imagine my lecturer asking If i want my future career jeorpadized *simply because of a veil*. I told him everyone dresses to work and this is my own dress code though a different style. He smiled and told me that 2 or less out of hundred organizations will hire me dressed like that.
Can you imagine that! It's not as if he wished me bad but that shows how much he knows of 'Western criticism and hyprocrisy'...
Our life and death are for Allah... May HE see everyone through and do the best for us and for dear brother Nathan Ellington in all endeavours.
***Wa'aleikumus-salam @OP*****

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by yahrant140(m): 5:18pm On Oct 18, 2013
We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by LajaLaba: 5:18pm On Oct 18, 2013
grin grin grin
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by LajaLaba: 5:19pm On Oct 18, 2013
yahrant140: We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'
Tell them

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by TUNEX89(m): 5:20pm On Oct 18, 2013
Rubish!
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:25pm On Oct 18, 2013
discrimination is every where... Op pls summarize ur nxt post
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by pumpingmachine: 5:25pm On Oct 18, 2013
yahrant140: We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'
I must also let you know that your use of English language is awful and your comment is plagued with ludicrous grammatical errors

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by kizito047(m): 5:26pm On Oct 18, 2013
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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by iykak47: 5:27pm On Oct 18, 2013
yahrant140: We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'
shockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshocked

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:27pm On Oct 18, 2013
Do ur best, and leave the rest to ur God then dealing with managers won't be a problem for you anymore... Christians fast too though.

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by mustaphagreens(m): 5:28pm On Oct 18, 2013
TUNEX89: Rubish!
wrongly spelt boy, It's 'rubbish' and not 'rubish',pls tunex or whatever u r called don't bring fanatism into this thread i beg of u, just for ur own good !!!
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 18, 2013
pumpingmachine: I must also let you know that your use of English language language is awful. Your comment is plagued with ludicrous grammatical errors
its not about the grammatical error. is about the information. most important is to understand it. tongue

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 18, 2013
If any religion or religious practice will keep me from living my life to the fullest, then I think its time to do away with it.

Was the sabbath made for man or man for the sabbath?
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by johnwizey: 5:32pm On Oct 18, 2013
yahrant140: We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'
Peace indeed

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:33pm On Oct 18, 2013
I also used to think playing football and fasting cannot go together. I play football every Saturday, Sunday, public holidays and other days I'm not going to office (including this morning) and I do so even while fasting. I even played match while fasting this last Ramadan (some Nairalanders that attended the last Ramadan iftaar in my house witnessed this last August cheesy).

I know I'm just an amateur, but it should be even easier for professionals whose system would have adjusted to the demand. I remember fasting Egyptian national team beating non-fasting Nigerian team in a match years back. I also remember Ahmed Musa's fantastic performance in WYC Canada 2011 while fasting.
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Superking: 5:33pm On Oct 18, 2013
Abayomin70: Guy go shave
O boi you really made me laugh. grin In fact I'm still laughing (hysterically). grin grin grin
But sha, your advise no bad at all! Na wetin the guy need most. grin grin

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by bukatyne(f): 5:34pm On Oct 18, 2013
maclatunji: Salam alaykum and hello to our Non-Muslim readers. A lot of the content on Nairaland from the Islam section thus far has not been related to the current experiences of Muslims in terms of personal opinions and lifestyles. I intend to change that by posting more opinion pieces and Muslim lifestyle content. I present to you Nathan Ellington speaking to the Daily Mail as part of this new initiative...



NATHAN ELLINGTON: People in football are not aware of what Muslims need to do... one manager dropped me because I was fasting even though I was not struggling

Nathan Ellington is a footballer who converted to Islam in 2005 and in his debut Footballers' Football Column he explains the challenges he has had to overcome in the game. The former Wigan, West Brom, Derby, Watford and Crewe striker explains how one manager dropped him while he was fasting during Ramadan and says there is no reason why he cannot fulfill both his football and religious commitments side by side. You can watch his video here...


Whether it's good or bad, people can speak to us, we can explain what's going on. It might be the case that a player needs something at a club, but he might feel more comfortable speaking to us then we can speak to the PFA and help them.

As a Muslim football player I encountered some problems in the past. I had one agent of mine being in the presence of a manager and when my name was brought up he'd be talking negatively about me because I'm a Muslim. I hadn't even changed that much at the time. He felt the need to say something about me. I wasn't even fasting or praying at that point.

A friend of mine called me saying players have been talking about me saying I'm praying in the corner somewhere and joking about it. It was supposed to be banter, I think. This gets around. I started getting a bad name just because I'm Muslim.

Then there was the time a manager dropped me because I was fasting. I'd started Ramadan, the month each year where Muslims around the world don't eat or drink in the hours from dawn 'til sunset, and halfway through the manager didn't realise I was doing it until someone on the training ground mentioned it.

The manager then told me he was dropping me from contention. I thought it was a joke. Then we had a more serious conversation and he said it was playing on his mind that I wasn't eating or drinking. I said I was playing before without him noticing.

I pointed out there were no signs I was struggling in any way and he should only worry if I'm not doing well, like Demba Ba has said in the past. He still dropped me to the bench, and sometimes I was not in the Squad at all.

There were times when managers, coaches and players didn't pay so much attention to what they were eating or drinking and they still played well. The fact I was doing something slightly different than they know, well it now became a problem.

I know it affects some people more than others, but If I feel that I can cope I don't see why it's a problem. I trained fine for Crewe during this Ramadan. I might get a dry mouth during running sessions. But I can still do them. I might feel more tired after training and have a nap. Your body gets used to it. But what can you do? If someone's made their mind up, you've just got to stay strong.

Younger players generally won't say anything. It's hard enough to make it as a footballer but it gets harder if they start bringing in their religion. I see young players who don't want to do certain things because it's different and they're scared to ask to pray on a Friday or ask for halal meat in the canteen or at digs where they may be staying with a family. They're compromising their religion, it shouldn't be like that.

But it's getting easier. That's why the Association of Muslim Footballers, which I played a part in setting up in 2011, is there. I was one of the first people in football to openly put myself out there as a practicing Muslim. I got judged and had to get through it.

It's like the black guys back in the day who were the first to get stick before it became easy for the rest of us. A lot of bad stuff happened, a lot behind the scenes. It was very unjustified. I try to make sure there's awareness, this is what we're about. Muslims aren't different, we're very professional.

I got a call recently to speak to a young player in a youth team because the coaches said he was a Muslim and needed help juggling training and religion. They were saying he's more interested in religion than football. I thought, hang on a minute.

When I asked the player how he was getting on I didn't get any signs that he was putting football behind anything. He was doing his best at football but he was just trying to do what he has to do within in the boundaries of his religion. It doesn't compromise his football. Why can't you do both? That sort of thing needs to change.

People need to realise you can pray five times a day and it's not a problem, it shouldn't matter to anybody else. I reverted to Islam a little while before I married my wife in 2005. It took about two years before I started praying. It wasn't straight away.

I fasted maybe for a couple of days at the beginning then more and more. At the beginning I didn't think I had to do everything. I looked at Islam in a relaxed fashion, the same way as I did Christianity. I'd been brought up as a Christian and just felt as long as you believe and you're a good person you'll be OK.

Then as I learned more and more about Islam, I realised that everything is recorded and you will be judged according to God's rules and not what I pick and choose. I built it up gradually. I didn't change completely straight away, it would have been too overwhelming to do that. It became a learning and implementing experience.

The more you learn the more you understand. You slowly change according to your knowledge. You improve yourself when you're ready. Everybody is on their own journey and they go at a pace that they feel comfortable with.

When I learned more, I began to pray more, I became excited and wanted to share my experiences with everyone. I found that a challenge because not many people are interested in religion, even more so within football culture. I found there was a time when to speak and when not to. Other people have to ask you about it.

There's no point you instigating it. In the early stages I was listening, watching and reading and really wanted to tell the world.

Part of your job as a Muslim is to make others aware of the religion. It's not just something for me, it was something for everybody. But when it came to relaying things it was difficult to remember everything. That was another challenge.

Now I get a lot of people asking me about it. When I'm not around, people want to know what I'm doing. That was a transitional part for me. If people want to understand what I'm doing I'm happy to tell them.

It was a challenge at the beginning to get used to the way of life of praying on a regular basis. I was worried about how I was seen around the clubs and with the managers.

They would say I'm too interested in religion. It's silly. On the bus I might be reading the Koran or trying to learn Arabic. Others would be betting or playing cards. That was seen as normal but mine was seen as if I wasn't interested in football anymore. Generally gambling is seen as bad in society but here it was seen as better than what I was doing. I got seen as someone not interested in football anymore. It's very frustrating.

Even now you'll hear the odd comment. Just because I practice Ramadan some people have that thought. I'm training exactly the same. The only difference is I'm practicing my faith.

Whether it's good or bad, people can speak to us, we can explain what's going on. It might be the case that a player needs something at a club, but he might feel more comfortable speaking to us then we can speak to the PFA and help them.

A player might be coming over from a different country and feel isolated. Their family might find it difficult. The culture is very different here. They can't go to nightclubs and do things like that. They need to find like-minded people and feel at home. If that's covered and they're happy, it helps.

At Christmas, clubs might have a party or go to a certain place. Muslims can't go to these places, if there is alcohol there for example. If the club understands they won't insist they come or fine them if they don't, or they might change the venue or what they do.

The player won't worry they're going to be fined for not going. That kind of thing makes the workplace better and more cohesive, mixing all religions and cultures.

In the future clubs might work with us. They could come to us wanting advice. It might be research for a player in another country they might think what will he need and they can put that to him when they offer him a contract. They might find the nearest mosque for him or cater for any needs he has.

A lot of players, managers and coaches don't know what practicing Muslim football players have to do. If they do, it makes it easier to get more success from players and teams. The more awareness the better.

Source: Daily Mail

@bolded:

No everyone who calls 'Lord' are His...

Everyone gets the same treatment when they are perceived to be different/unique.

A girl who doesn't make up/wear trousers is 'mocked' amongst those who do; A man who decides to be a virgin till marriage is seen as gay/learner/impotent (NL is a perfect reference); A student who is studious is termed 'ITK', 'Efiko'; A person who cannot be compromised is 'wicked', 'strict' etc.

It is not a muslim exclusive treat.

Everyone should learn to stand up for what they believe in AND ensure they DO NOT expect everyone to conform to their views.

You don't drink alcohol or wear an indecent dress, don't go to a club and start whinning. Stay in your lane. You can't do what others are doing? Give your advice and move on.

Everyone should embrace the concept of 'Live and let's live'

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by DrWalter: 5:34pm On Oct 18, 2013
D unbelievers are not here yet
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Wadosky(m): 5:34pm On Oct 18, 2013
I dont think people have problem with islam,its just the terror thing that brought the negative views.

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Superking: 5:36pm On Oct 18, 2013
At times I eat just twice a day. First meal before 6am and last meal after 6pm. What would you call that? Somebody help!

Abeg I no wan tlobble at all lipsrsealed
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by aurenflani: 5:36pm On Oct 18, 2013
iykak47: shockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshockedshocked
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by bukatyne(f): 5:36pm On Oct 18, 2013
ummsulaym: Hmmmm! Even in other fields, we have alot of muslims complaining of similar problem... I really don't know how being a practicing muslim affects productivity and/or efficiency at work if not positively... If they do not complain about this, they will complain about that...
Imagine my lecturer asking If i want my future career jeorpadized *simply because of a veil*. I told him everyone dresses to work and this is my own dress code though a different style.
He smiled and told me that 2 or less out of hundred organizations will hire me dressed like that.
Can you imagine that! It's not as if he wished me bad but that shows how much he knows of 'Western criticism and hyprocrisy'...
Our life and death are for Allah... May HE see everyone through and do the best for us and for dear brother Nathan Ellington in all endeavours.
***Wa'aleikumus-salam @OP*****

Some organizations will not employ people who not fit into a certain lifestyle...

It is NOT a Muslim thing.

Muslims are NOT the victims of discrimination, unique people are

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by emmabest2000(m): 5:37pm On Oct 18, 2013
Abayomin70: Guy go shave
Lol you are wicked grin
Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by UchihaItachi(m): 5:38pm On Oct 18, 2013
mustaphagreens: today i'm third to comment tomorrow it might be you...click 'like' if u believe


Where is the dislike button? undecided

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nuvally: 5:38pm On Oct 18, 2013
yahrant140: We muslims must let the world entirely knows that 'islam is the only religion of peace'

Keep quiet my friend!

I hate religious fanatics.

Whether u're a Christain, Muslim or P, you must adhere to every rule/regulation guiding ur place of work.

I vividly can't employ a person who goes out to pray 5 times a day as a Receptionist in my Hotel.

If the rules don't favour u, go somewhere else. You can't bend the rules.
You can't play football with an Empty stomach.

This is what I call self-pity. Does Islam teach that Too?

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nobody: 5:38pm On Oct 18, 2013
kini eleyi ko wa bayi, wetin dis one teach us now?

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by Nokio1: 5:40pm On Oct 18, 2013
Must you play football,why dont you go to Yemen and learn a new trade...yes i am islamophobic. ETT

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Re: Nathan Ellington: People In Football Are Unaware Of What Muslims Need To Do... by bukatyne(f): 5:40pm On Oct 18, 2013
Jarus: I also used to think playing football and fasting cannot go together. I play football every Saturday, Sunday, public holidays and other days I'm not going to office (including this morning) and I do so even while fasting. I even played match while fasting this last Ramadan (some Nairalanders that attended the last Ramadan iftaar in my house witnessed this last August cheesy).

I know I'm just an amateur, but it should be even easier for professionals whose system would have adjusted to the demand. I remember fasting Egyptian national team beating non-fasting Nigerian team in a match years back. I also remember Ahmed Musa's fantastic performance in WYC Canada 2011 while fasting.

It might be out of concern and not discrimination.

I remember years back, a Muslim was carrying something during Ramadan and everyone was shouting 'he is fasting', 'he might not be strong', 'don't stress him etc.'

I would not feel comfortable if someone who I know is fasting is doing something strenuous.

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