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| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 7:54pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
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| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Still don't make sense. What has genetics got to do with location? And genetically speaking, those who occupied middle east at that point in history, are related to the people in ancient Egypt and Nubia. They all followed the flow of the Nile River to settle in different parts of the present day middle east. They were just as negroid as the Nubians. Europeans are related, however, Africans who all came from the Haplogroup E aren't, yes? Bruv, stop posting junk! 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:04pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:27pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Ay...You're being difficult for no reason. Don't worry people who are not knowledgeable on this topic usually are. shymexx:Did I say that  No. I clearly said phenotype(physical features) are a result of a specific environment, due to adapting to it. My god this is common sense. If that was the case then a Afar wouldn't be related to a say Dinka. Like I said a million times there was constant genes flow throughout Africa. Second haplogroups ARISE IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS due to mutations. Haplogroups in Africa are all African where as those not in Africa are not. Middle Eastern DO carry some African admixture and Haplogroups, but the bulk of it is Eurasian.All your doing is eye balling anthropology like the rest of these people on here. This Adaman islander looks black but is genetically distant from Africans. [img]http://sawbonessurio.files./2011/05/andaman-islander.jpg[/img] shymexx:Dude...You just deflated your own argument... By saying that you're agreeing with Eurocentrics that the Ancient Egyptians were the result of migrations happening from the North and that they were Eurasian people. Do you even know what you're saying?? The Ancient Egyptians were a Nile Valley people who came from the SOUTH. So how the heck can they be the same?? Unless you're saying modern Middle Eastern people are related to Ancient Egyptians, which is still flawed and you're still agreeing with the Eurocentrics. Not only that the Ancient Egyptians DESPISED the Asiatics AKA Middle Eastern people. Hecjk I can post loads of sources if you want me to... But more importantly...Here's something hard for you to swallow.  Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19215865 Incidentally, many of the STRs used in this study are the same ones that tied ancient Egyptians to sub-Saharan Africans in the DNA Tribes analysis. The Ancient Egyptians group FARTHESR away from even Upper Egyptians(who are African) and horner...Those two groups that have close links to Near Eastern people. The Ancient Egyptians instead group with[i] inner Africans[/i]. shymexx:Again Negroid is an outdated and scientifically flawed term(like I said a million times). No wonder why you're having an hard time comprehending this topic. No wonder... shymexx:What ?? Didn't I freaking say Africans are related due to constant gene flow in prehistoric times? Are you even reading my post clearly Dude....Haplogroup E is only ONE African Y-DNA and its not the oldest, though most male Africans carry it.shymexx: If it wasn't for me posting my junk, people would still be saying nonsense things like: 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:29pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
KidStrangleHold makes some sense. 2 Likes |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Uh huh. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:39pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
And Pagan9...When I said the originally Middle Easterners looked black I meant in prehistoric times. You have to understand that most of the Earth was still populated by darker skinned people, including Europe. Pale skin didn't evolve yet. Pale skin didn't evolve until 15-6k years. When it did the lighter skinned people of the North replaced the darker skinned black looking middle easterners. To say it in easier terms. Look at the New Papaun people. They are the oldest Eurasians(along with Australian Aboriginals), yet look black but are genetically distant from blacks. Also look at India...The Dravidians use to be all throught out India until the lighter skinned Aryans pushed them more south. This is the same thing that happened in the middle east. I heard the same thing happened in China in prehistoric times. Negritos use to inhabitant southern China until arriving cold adapted lighter skinned people from Northern China pushed them farther out and into Southeast Asia(where they are today). Again same thing happened with the NEar east. Mind you there are still darker skinned people in Yemen...  Just trying to clear up some things. Ligher skinned people really didn't come until later when dark skin was not needed for their enviroment. And mind you...Southern Arabia is still in the Sub Tropics where darker skin is needed to an extent. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:45pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
hmm this is why Bedu Arabs are brown skinned to an extent. Socotrians and SOuthern Arabians are darker. (Qarra, Mahra, Harasiis, etc.), to the extent that some of my Arab friends have called them "EThiopian-looking". they also have their own languages, which is NOT Arabic. my problem is that, some black-centric people are using these pre-historic claims to lay claim over achievements that cannot be attributed to their ancestors, neither has it any relationship or anything to do with them. and then they use these claims to forge fake geneologies and sometimes to justify foreign religion (christianity). |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:48pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: I agree with you on that. Some hardcore Afrocentrics try to lay claim of Dravidian civilization. Yes they looked black, but they had nothing to do with Africa or Africans. I call people who look black in Asia, black Asians, not saying they are related to Africans but just to make things easier when describing them. Blacks are not limited to Africa, just as white is not limited to Europe. Heck I believe the first white people came from where between Turkey and central Asia. Just my opinion though. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:50pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: [s]Ay...You're being difficult for no reason. Don't worry people who are not knowledgeable on this topic usually are. Have you got a brain? Africa is the most diverse continent on the planet, due to admixture with groups and different migration waves around the continent. But all the people are related. It seems you just love hanging yourself with a noose with the "Middle Eastern" crap. How about forget about middle east for now since there was no middle east at that point in history and there was nothing called a middle eastern? Let's debate based on timeline, the Nile Valley migration and how there was no way no other race of people would have occupied that place at that point in history apart from pure Africans? Excavated bones from all over the middle east, to the gulf also provide credence to this assertion. The bones are all negroid bones with origins in East Africa. All your doing is eye balling anthropology like the rest of these people on here. This Adaman islander looks black but is genetically distant from Africans. This just don't make sense. What has an Adaman Islander living in far away India got to do with a place that used to be part of Africa and a stone-throw from East Africa? Some would even argue that all the black tribes in Euroasia actually migrated out of Africa as well, just as the aborigines in Oceania. And that they're related to present day Africa. If ancient Africans could travel all the way to the Americas during prehistoric time (as asserted by Prof. Ivan Van Sertima), what makes you think those Adaman Islanders aren't actually from Africa? However, that's a topic for another day.
You just showed how dumb you're. I said the FLOW OF THE NILE RIVER. THE NILE RIVER FLOWS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH - NOT NORTH TO SOUTH. It flows upwards according to the map. If you don't even know how the Nile River flows, why should I take anything you have to say seriously? The people followed the flow of the Nile River upwards towards North Africa - hence why the Nile Valley civilisations were built over there. However, that doesn't change the fact that ancient Egypt was the first daughter of Ethiopia as asserted by Heretodus and other Greek historians because they were basically the same people, up to everywhere in present day middle east. Bruv, go to bed!! 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:52pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
So this guy doesn't even know the Nile River flows upward, yet he's arguing stupidly. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Nile River, Arabic Baḥr Al-Nīl or Nahr Al-Nīl, river, the father of African rivers and the longest river in the world. It rises south of the Equator and flows northward through northeastern Africa to drain into the Mediterranean Sea. It has a length of about 4,132 miles (6,650 kilometres) and drains an area estimated at 1,293,000 square miles (3,349,000 square kilometres). Its basin includes parts of Tanzania, Burundi, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Kenya, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Sudan, and the cultivated part of Egypt. Its most distant source is the Kagerahttp://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/415347/Nile-River |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by tpia5: 8:55pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
shymexx: . . . . . . i guess others should also start shouting hate at every opportunity then: Not Being To Lagos, a 'bush person'? I just cant stand Lagos girls! A Handsome Yoruba Man With Ogbomosho Tribal Marks Or---------- Egba, Ijebu Unfair To Ogun West – Obasanjo Ijebu Guys Versus Ondo Guys [aka Ondo guys are stingy womanizers and drunkards] Ibadan and Lagos ranked Ist and Fourth dirtiest cities in the world Ibadan:the Most Insulting City In Nigeria Ekiti Is The 2nd Poorest State In Nigeria-commissioner Ekiti Govt Accused Of Feeding Kids With 'Juju Cutlery Ondo Girls : Are They Really Sex Addicts? Anyone Help With Rituals, Ife,juju,black Magic Etc. Lagos, World’s 3rd Worst City To Live Lagos Girls Are Shameless Is That True 95 % Of Lagos Babes Are Just Girl Friend Material Not For Wife you didnt see those, abi? |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:01pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
The flow of the Nile River influenced the migration of the people upwards, before they all started migrating back into Africa later in history due to the arrival of other races and constant invasions by different people. The constant invasions birthed the Arab ethnicity due to admixture. However, that doesn't change the timeline in history and the earliest inhabitants of those areas. And ancient Egyptian never saw themselves as different from other Africans hence why there's no record of them going to war with none of them. From the earliest periods to the 23rd dynasty. Heck, Nubia did invade ancient Egypt a few times to rid it off invaders hence why it was later divided into two - with negroes on one side in upper Egypt (South due to the flow of the Nile River) - and the invaders on the other side in lower Egypt(North due to the flow of the Nile River). 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by tpia5: 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
and you conveniently ignore these: Amazing Facts About Ijebus THE PRIDE OF Ijebus: Unbelieveable Facts... 20 Amazing Facts About Ijebus Ijebu Girls Are The Best Wife Material because ? |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
tpia@: Most of those threads were created by other ethnic groups. However, you can't deny the fact that a lot of Yoruba's don't like Ijebu people. You were raised in naij and you should know this. I wasn't raised there, but I know it firsthand. So stop acting like it's something new. I guess that's why some Ijebu's (who're in the minority) are looking for an alternative origin. Can you blame them for that? Regardless, I don't see anything wrong in people exploring their ancestry. Folklore isn't just enough. Ijebu history didn't start in Nigeria. So where did it start from? That's the question people are asking. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by tpia5: 9:10pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
shymexx: if you can mention who ijebus like among other yorubas, you might be on the solution to your personal issues. i guess you assume yoruba is like britain where everybody likes each other? you arent fooling anyone but yourself with your hate rants. as per alternative history or whatever, thats not my business per se. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Malakh: 9:15pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Kid strange you are really loosing it, the history of human race is in the Bible, read Genesis 10 |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:18pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
tpia@: Where's the hate in my posts? Anyway, Ijebu's love everyone. We love the Awori's so much, we gave them the Eyo festival and influenced them. Heck, their exiled king, Dosumu was allowed to settle in Epe with his followers and they even have an Awori king in Epe now. They're settlers but we've never troubled them. We're like one big family with the Egba's. We co-exist with the Ilaje's on the coast. There are many Ijebu settlers in Ibadan and apparently, they make up 25% of the population. We don't fight - we spread love!  1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:18pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Malakh: Kid strange you are really loosing it, the history of human race is in the Bible, read Genesis 10 LOL 3 Likes |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:19pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
tpia@: Yeah, "amazing facts" threads created by Ijebu's to balance the hate. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:28pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
shymexx:if ijebus are not yorubas, where do ijebu_ife come frm |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 9:39pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
Goldenbrown549: And where did I assert that Ijebu's aren't Yoruba's? However, that doesn't negate the fact that Ijebu's have no link whatsoever with Oduduwa. Ijebu's are called "omo obanta" and not "omo oduduwa" - can you peep the difference? Regardless, Oduduwa isn't the progenitor of the Yoruba race and he also met people in Ife and not all Yoruba subgroups have links with Oduduwa. Anyway, my argument on this thread is about allowing people to explore their origins. I still don't know why all these Yoruba crap keeps popping up. I'm Yoruba and I'm not denying that. And most Ijebu's also align with Yoruba. However, if certain people want to explore other things - why can't they be allowed to do that? No one is disturbing the Itsekiri's who're mostly Ijebu's to claim Yoruba - so why the need to disturb people who don't want to be Yoruba? Perhaps, if you have experienced some of the hate some of these people give out towards having an Ijebu identity, you would have empathy for those seeking a new identity. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 10:18pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
I have taking my time to read through page 0-3 n all I will say is #youGuysAreMovingInCircle... hmmm... history .Myth . Legend . Ideology. philosophy. wants n desires. religion. jst to prove a point that will neither add nor remove anything from our present existence... #rubbish No matter what is said ,discovered or believed, we all Negroid, Caucasian, Mongoloid e.t.c. originated from a single spot like {•} #typingFrom042 |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 11:02pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
TerraCotta: Jebusites are to Ijebu as Edomites are to Edo, or Orissa in India is to Orisha in Nigeria. There is no cultural, ethnic or religious relationship beyond the coincidence of terms that sound alike. This is not an unusual situation around the world; the human mouth can only produce so many sounds and some of them are bound to be similar. I just saw this post after reading through your post history and, your back and forth with kats on the other thread. I definitely have a lot of respect for you when it comes to legends about history, especially when it comes to Yoruba history. However, I'm sure you know the ethnic settlements in present day Nigeria started towards the end of the BCE and early into the Common Era. So where did all these people migrate from? I'm not disputing what you said about the Jebusites, Edomites et al because the Bible as far as I'm concerned is also a book of folklore with no archaeological evidence(s) to back-up most of the things in there. The only records we have for migration waves are the Egyptian pyramid text and the different migration waves that happened, due to invaders. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 11:06pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: All you've done is blow a lid due to drunkenness while confirming the East Asian blacks ARE genetically related to Africans. EVERY GODAMMNED RACE IS. ALL civilizations out there are made up of descendants of African emigrants. That's all we need to know! |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:05am On Nov 23, 2013 |
Was at college, thats what took me so long to reply. Also you seem to lash out on people who have a different view than you. Anyways... shymexx:Yes I do have a brain and it seems to work more than yours. So you're contributing native African diversity to foreign admixture?? Sorry...It just doesn't work like that. [img]http://2.bp..com/-5tyw9e4D61k/TuwqIRUHe6I/AAAAAAAAAj0/v9THtuQCUAw/s1600/african_diversity_egypt_beautiful_girls_mostdiversity.jpg[/img]  And no duh all groups are related, you keep saying the same things I'm saying. -__- shymexx: *face/palm* Like I said before...You are truly a difficult person. Even PAGAN clearly understands what I am saying. Dude...Didn't I say the early Middle Easterners looked no different than Africans? Not only that the first place those OOA people went was SOUTHWEST ASIA AKA the Middle East. So no duh Negroid remains would be found there dingleberry. But thats not the point since I already agreed that the early Middle Easterners looked no different from Africans. This is getting annoying. Heres your objective...FIND me a source/study that states the early Near Easterners were related to Africans. Haplogroup J is the dominate Y-DNA in Middle Eastern men. I arose around 30k years and is native to the Near East. Again show me a study which agrees with your claim. Or your argument is worthless. shymexx: 1. My point was(which you clearly did not understand) is that Negroid the word you and others love so much is not limited to Africans but to Eurasians, Eurasians like the Adaman Islanders WHO DO NOT CARRY AFRICAN ADMIXTURE. If they do then post be a genetic study. That is the reason why the term Negroid is flawed because there are different groups who have Negroid, yet are not related to each other. I know its hard for you to grasp that. Also like I said ALL Eurasians(inlcuding Europeans) are descendants of the OOA migrates. You and others need to stop acting like only those Pacific Islanders and Adaman Islanders are the only ones that are. 2. Ivan Van Sertima Never said Africans traveled to the Americas Prehistoric times. He said that the Ancient Egyptians and West Africans did, but there is no hard evidence for that. shymexx: You keep showing how moronic you are. You're doing a good job at it btw. Now...When the heck did I mention the Nile river did not flow from south to north?? Its WELL KNOWN that the Nile river flows from SOUTH to NORTH! That how post was moot. You're putting words in my mouth due to having no argument and trouble understanding what this argument is about. Your post has NOTHING repeat Nothing nada to do with what I just posted...Dude here is a quote of what you said: those who occupied middle east at that point in history, are related to the people in ancient Egypt and Nubia. Now little Jimmy, here is what I said: By saying that you're agreeing with Eurocentrics that the Ancient Egyptians were the result of migrations happening from the North and that they were Eurasian people. The 'North' as in the Levant...Yes Eurocentrics still believe in a dynastic race theory or just believe the bulk of the Ancient Egyptian population came from the Near East. So bringing up the Nile Valley is moot, when I basically AGREED that it flows from SOUTH to NORTH by saying the Ancients CAME FROM THE SOUTH! The Ancient Egyptians only recently migrated to the Levant that was when they conquered it under the 19th dynasty. Prior to that there was only minor migrations, not only that but Lower Egypt was sparely populated based off this study: Butzer’s (1976) figures demonstrate that throughout the dynastic period the Egyptian population numbers were denser between Aswan and Qift, and between the Faiyum and the head of the Delta. The Delta and the southern wide floodplain were more sparsely populated. So any claims about huge migrations into the Near East or from Near East into Egypt during predynastic times is void. But it gets worse...Here is how the Ancient Egyptians viewed their Near Eastern 'African' bretherns... Asiatics (whites) are both cowardly and pitiful, leading a marginal existence, constantly fighting but with nothing ever settled. They are also sly and ultimately treacherous, attacking without warning. This passage characterizes Asiatics as both primitive and threatening.. In this case, the passage reflects Egypt's combination of colonial domination and outright military conflict.." Merikare goes on (Lichtheim 1976: 103-104) from Project Guttenberg full text of: A HISTORY OF EGYPT FROM THE EARLIEST TIMES TO THE PERSIAN CONQUEST BY JAMES HENRY BREASTED, II, 760-1, 773. 2 II, 761. Inscription "the Asiatics of all countries came with bowed head, doing obeisance to the fame of his majesty." book text: "Thutmose's war-galleys moored in the harbour of the town; but at this time not merely the iceaUh of Asia was unloaded from the ships; the Asiatics themselves, bound one to another in long lines, were led down the gang planks to begin a life of slave- labour for the Pharaoh (Fig. 119). They wore long matted beards, an abomination to the Egyptians ; their hair hung in heavy black masses upon their shoulders, and they were clad in gaily coloured woolen stuffs, such as the Egyptian, spotless in his white linen robe, would never put on his body. Their arms were pinioned behind them at the elbows or crossed over their heads and lashed together ; or, again, their hands were thrust through odd pointed ovals of wood, which served as hand-cuffs. The women carried their children slung in a fold of the mantle over their shoulders. With their strange speech and uncouth postures the poor wretches were the subject of jibe and merriment on the part of the multitude ; while the artists of the time could never forbear caricaturing them. Many of them found their way into the houses of the Pharaoh's favourites, and his generals were liberally rewarded with gifts of such slaves; but the larger number were immediately employed on the temple estates, the Pharaoh's domains, or in the construction of his great monuments and buildings." Along the same lines, the Prophecy of Neferti (c. 1950 BC) portrays Asiatic immigrants as a flock of rapacious birds descending on Egypt, taking advantage of civil wars of the First Intermediate Period (c. 2150 - 2050 BC) to infiltrate parts of the rich Egyptian delta (Lichtheim 1973: 141): A strange bird will breed in the delta marsh, having made its nest besides the people.. All happiness is vanished, The land is bowed down in distress, Owing to those feeders, Asiatics [whites] who roam the land.. From: --Stuart Tyson Smith. (2003) Wretched Kush: ethnic identities and boundaries in Egypt's Nubian empire. Routledge, pp. 28-31 Seems like the Ancient Egyptians really didn't like their so called African Near Eastern bretherns...Trust me I have MORE and Thus you have this.  Meanwhile with their AFRICAN Nubian neighbors to the South it was a Love/Hate relation:  shymexx: Bruv, go get an education!! |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:11am On Nov 23, 2013 |
Malakh: Kid strange you are really loosing it, the history of human race is in the Bible, read Genesis 10 Sorry I don't get my sources from a kids bed time story book, which says a man separated an ocean. According to the Bible humans were created 6,000 years ago as a result of Adam and Eve. While science says humans(homo sapiens) arosed 200k years ago or much earlier. You take your pick. Science? Or a kid bedtime story? I'm losing my mind? Pff...You lost your indignous religion which was forced onto your ancestors. Thats if you are of West/Central descent and not Ethiopian. |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:17am On Nov 23, 2013 |
ROSSIKE: Where in my post did I say such a thing? Stop projection. You have no argument which is why you're agreeing with me now that EVERY person is descendant of those OOA migrates. Yes that is true...But MUTATIONS happen and you or Shymexx have not posted me a study which shows those black Asians or pacific Islanders carry any African genes. Until you do that both of you guys points are moot. I know its hard for you to swallow, but those Pacific Islanders and Asian Negritos are genetically DISTANT from Africans. [img]http://erectuswalksamongst.us/Images/Figure%207-2.GIF[/img] Of course you're going to be denial about it, but until you show me a study that states otherwise all your claims are irrelevant. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:19am On Nov 23, 2013 |
Now who's next? |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:47am On Nov 23, 2013 |
@kidstrangehold This guy's brain is obviously oversaturated with junk - your rebuttal isn't worth quoting, to be honest. I didn't even want to extend the debate to show you that those black tribes in India are actually negroids, who migrated over there. The ancient Kush kingdom (kush means black) actually went as far as southern mesopotamia and white Nile Basin, all the way to the Indian subcontinent - down to the red sea and gulf of Aden. And the kushites were pure Africans. Anyway, this was I said you're ret.arded, since you're back to twist your stupidity. I said: And genetically speaking, those who occupied middle east at that point in history, are related to the people in ancient Egypt and Nubia. They all followed the flow of the Nile River to settle in different parts of the present day middle east. And you said: By saying that you're agreeing with Eurocentrics that the Ancient Egyptians were the result of migrations happening from the North and that they were Eurasian people. Subsequently, I had to correct you that the Nile River flows from South to North, hence why the people migrated from the South out to the present day middle east region. This was to counter your stupid assertion about North to South migration. I'm done with this junk - you're not worth debating. You posted a lot of crap that's not even worth debating. However, I'll leave you with the map of the ancient kush kingdom  1 Like |
| Re: Ijebu: Jebusites? What A Myth! by Nobody: 1:47am On Nov 23, 2013 |
LOL....I tell u one thing, Kid. They'll come back. I want to know your take on something more directly related to this here topic, though. This whole thing began when I disagreed with Shymmexx's assertion that the ancient Jebusites were black. Jebusites were, it appears, part of the Bronze Age Canaanite culture complex. While there's vestigial evidence of dark- or black-skinned people in large swathes of Asia in pre-historic times (eg, the so-called Australoids), do you think Bronze-Age Canaanites (of about 3,000 to about 1,000BC) were black in any sense of the word 'black'....and do you think its tenable for any West African group to trace its descent from them? |
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