spencerwilliams: u ar just decievin ur self,now use amplified bible if u hav nd open 2 dat same place,amplified used d word linen trunks,now go 2 ur dictionary nd find out d meanin,trunks are men's wear only,nt 4 women atall,4rom ur answa i see dat even if i show u d oda 2 places in d scripture where men wore trousas,d devil wil stil give u anoda idea 2 misinterpret it,but i know dat dat scriptur alon can make a heaven bound christian know d truth,earlier u all where just sayin show me wher men wore trousas,i know u were nt even expectin 2 see any place like dis in d bible,but now u hv seen it nd u ar stil argueing,i wount talk much wit u,but i hope 2 com across people lik u one on one so dat we wil know how to talk beta,but like i said no nid 2 argue,becos 2timothy 2:23-26 has taught me how to respond 2 people like u.God bless u

spencerwilliams: u ar just decievin ur self,now use amplified bible if u hav nd open 2 dat same place,amplified used d word linen trunks,now go 2 ur dictionary nd find out d meanin,trunks are men's wear only,nt 4 women atall,4rom ur answa i see dat even if i show u d oda 2 places in d scripture where men wore trousas,d devil wil stil give u anoda idea 2 misinterpret it,but i know dat dat scriptur alon can make a heaven bound christian know d truth,earlier u all where just sayin show me wher men wore trousas,i know u were nt even expectin 2 see any place like dis in d bible,but now u hv seen it nd u ar stil argueing,i wount talk much wit u,but i hope 2 com across people lik u one on one so dat we wil know how to talk beta,but like i said no nid 2 argue,becos 2timothy 2:23-26 has taught me how to respond 2 people like u.God bless u

spencerwilliams: what do u tink d bible was talkin about wen it comes 2 being free 4rom d law,i can see where ur proplem is coming from.U nid 2 know dat d law is nt abolished.

frosbel:

You are totally deceived by religion. Come out of tradition and embrace freedom in Jesus.

Fanaticism is not a virtue.

spencerwilliams: what do u know about freedom,ur statement alone shows dat u are already yeildin 2 d fleshy desires,u remind me of how some prostitute use d grace of God 4 licenc 4 imorality,like dey always say,stop livin dis holy holy lifstyl of urs,com nd experien d freedom christ gav 2 us on d cross,althoug hv nt seen u but u sound like does people playin wit grace of God.

spencerwilliams: what do u know about freedom,ur statement alone shows dat u are already yeildin 2 d fleshy desires,u remind me of how some prostitute use d grace of God 4 licenc 4 imorality,like dey always say,stop livin dis holy holy lifstyl of urs,com nd experien d freedom christ gav 2 us on d cross,althoug hv nt seen u but u sound like does people playin wit grace of God.

frosbel:

lol.

I know where you are coming from , I was once a fanatic like you , following after the traditions of MEN.

You will be delivered.

spencerwilliams: what do u tink d bible was talkin about wen it comes 2 being free 4rom d law,i can see where ur proplem is coming from.U nid 2 know dat d law is nt abolished.

vickyO:
I'll pretend I didn't see the bolded. HERESY
Did you read the OP's post at all? The storyline?

spencerwilliams: i just wish i could meet people lik u 2 know if u even study d scripturs,let me tell u sometin do u know frm d way d bible explains holynes,it is sometin dat even people around u will see i mean pegan,unbelivas,do u know,nd u know naturaly no one wil see a woman wearin trousas nd cal her holy holy,am nt tryin 2 say if dey cal u holy holy it means u ar holy,all am tryin 2 say is dat even people of d world undastand modesty,nd dey know how christians nd unbelivas dress.don't b decieved by modernity,ask ur grandmoda how she felt,wen she saw women wear trousas.don't b mislead HOLINESS &RIGHTEOUSNESS THE WAY TO HEAVEN(spirit soul nd body)read1thessalonians5:23

spencerwilliams: and what bolded heresy ar u talkin about.

haibe: Brother: At least its not tight like the ones other girls wear

Me: Was her trousers tight

Brother: No

Me: So how come the trouser is sinful to you and the shirt is not

Brother: *a bit of silence*

*A girl and a boy walked out from the church, both putting on the polo t-shirt designed for the programme*

Me: So which of these two are committing sin for putting on this polo shirt?

Brother: None

Me: How come?? Whose dress is this polo shirt, for men or women??

Brother: I think both...

Me: Really? If polo t-shirts can be for both men and women, why can't trousers be for men and women??

Brother: *laughs*

Me: At least the trousers for men are different from that of women, so why do you see it as a sin even though you don't see anything wrong with the polo shirt this boy and girl are putting on??

Me: Or does God allow women to wear some men's cloth and not others??

Brother: No

Me: So why is it a sin for a woman to wear trousers but not shirts?

Me: look at those youth corpers (lady and a man) behind us, they are both putting on the same thing head to toe including their face cap and shoes, which of them is commiting sin?

Brother: I Don't know oo..

Me: or maybe christians shouldn't be serving then..

Brother: Why not..

Me: Do you still think that lady(my friend) will still go to hell because of those trousers she was putting on?

Brother: I don't think so

Me: Right, The attributes of a christian lady's dressing should be moderacy, decency and modesty. If she is born again, she has no problem as regards making heaven, leave her dressing for the holy spirit to handle, what matters is for her to be saved. We shouldn't just look at the outward dressing of a person to conclude their spiritual state, decency is enough for a lady's dressing to be.

Brother: You are right bro..

Me: you are welcome bro, see you later.

...............Ends...........

captivating:

@OP this makes a lot of sense..

I often wonder why people condemn female's putting on trousers but dont condemn female's putting on shirts, are shirts not made for men at first too? So why do they leave shirts and hang on trousers,it's because most of these people are confused.

Btw, trousers for female are different from trousers for male, so I see no point in saying females shouldn't be wearing trousers meant for them.

haibe:

Its called confusion if they don't know and hypocrisy if they know.

I see no reason why they condemn trousers and leave others.

captivating:

I think in this case it's confusion because most of these people just follow what their pastors say blindly. No time to confirm them and see things without being biased.

Image123: OP's conversation bothers a lot on human reasoning. Almost anything can be reasoned out to be not that bad BTW, depends on who is doing the reasoning and convincing. One thing is unclear. What is being discussed. Is it that trouser is a sin or not, or is it that according to Deut 22v5 trouser is not for men?

haibe:

both, and its human reasoning at a point in other to remove the irrationality in thinking trousers are strictly men wears when other wears are worn by both sexes without condemnation from any one.

haibe: If trousers are strictly for men, can you prove that to me?

Also if trousers are strictly for men, shirts are strictly for who

Image123:

It seems you are more on the line of according to Deut 22v5 trouser is not for men? No need to be emotional, there is nothing irrational in thinking that trousers are strictly men wears. It was something very rational to see just a couple of decades ago. It's like today when a public official in Nigeria laments that people are calling common stealing corruption(whatever that statement means). In his world view, stealing has become so common and part of life that he sees it as normal. But God does not see it as normal, stealing will never be normal.
Deuteronomy is quite straight.
Deu 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
One may bring up other arguments like arguing if it is a sin, or if people obey other scriptures etc. But as for Deut 22v5 oh, It is not right for a woman to be dressed in man's clothing, or for a man to put on a woman's robe: whoever does such things is disgusting to the Lord your God.
VERY Clear.

Ukuts gp: where is trouser mentioned in that verse? And are u doing all d laws in that chapter? If u are nt doing it, then u are an hypocrite.

Image123:
There are unisex clothings na like some socks and some goggle for instance. But until just some decades ago, there was no debate about who trousers were for. Like someone already showed, men had even being wearing them since Bible times. even cross dressers today know this. You're aware that the bra is for women?

haibe:

Who made shirt a unisex cloth?

If shirt can be a unisex cloth, why can't trouser be a unisex cloth?

Image123:
Everyone has being wearing them since forever.

Image123:
Everyone has being wearing them since forever.

haibe:

No, either a male started wearing it or a female started wearing it.

So who is the sinner for wearing it later on, male or female

haibe:

you didn't answer my question.

who made shirt a unisex cloth?

If shirt can be a unisex clothing, why can't trousers be a unisex clothing too?

Image123:
Simply because we all know that from the beginning, it was not so.

Image123:
Who started wearing first then, at least we deal wih what we know or have light on. Him that knoweth to do.