nairaxchan: I hope something is done about this post and this issue is taken up, or we take the alternative- boycott their products

Xtaceeey: Ok.

And to think I just applied by sending my cv.

Ok but wait...

Xtaceeey: Ok.

And to think I just applied by sending my cv.

Ok but wait...

kalan:

Sorry which product?
Do you know that they control almost 75% of telecom here in Nigeria? Who do you think is behind all the calls you make? the internet data you use? the sms you send? 75% is been controlled by huawei. They controll all of ETISALAT, AIRTEL, VISAFONE, GLO, SPECTRANET, SWIFT NETWORKS now penetrating MTN. in fact they control all the Caller tunes you hear in MTN.

Their fones are just a small fraction of their products.


On the OP lamentation, let me lay some facts and let you be the judge.


SOME GENERAL FACTS:
ASIAN companies are slave masters.
China are about 2 billion people, so their culture is to employ much and pay little.
Chinese expect loyalty 100%. hence the master slave mentality.
They dont belive in God so, their work is their god. those people can work 24/7 non stop for 7 days.
They respect their ladies a lot hence Chinese companies specifically Huawei regards their female staffs with honor


SPECIFICALLY on Huawei working conditions

1. They have a lot of workforce especially young graduates working for them averagely 2500 nationwide

2. They have 2 categories of staff- Full STAFF and OUTSOURCE staff. Among these there are those who are in Manage service team. These works in NOC, which I believe OP is one of them.

3. The Full staff enjoys all conditions like, Staff bus, medicals, Insurance, Pensions, 13 months salary, Overtime pay, 3 weeks leave and 12 sick leave yearly, Bonus sharing, according to your performance salary increase once/twice a year, Hotel accommodation and outstation allowance when you travel which could be up to 5x your salary in a month. Christmas gifts during xmas times like December.

They pay your leave BONUS which amount to your salary once in DECEMBER PLUS 13 month so that is 3x your salary. between 5k-25k monthly recharge cards- depending on your level, discounted phones rates, every one assigned a LAPTOP for work. they give extra 7 days leave for marriage, burials and others stuff

4. Entitle to all federal govt pronounced public holidays and work 8am-5pm MON-FRI. Note you should leave your desk when its 5PM and go home without waiting for your boss or taking permission from him.

5. There is no sexual harassment whatsoever from Bosses towards female staffs. if you hear, its the Nigerians dat are doing that to themselves
6. staffs are encourage to marry each other and the companies gives them a "fat" gift for that.

7. There is no "OGA" mentality. everyone is the same. your respect is in your salary and performance
8. They can give you any position you like e.g Manager RF solutions, that does mean your salary is bigger that an ordinary engineer.
9. During employment you negotiate your salary, if you say peanuts they will pay you peanut, if you say fat salary that your experience can back up you may get it.

10. promotion and salary increment is on performance basis which are based on KPIs decided between you and your immediate supervisor
11. They are very very good on training and Development. All Huawei engineers I know are very solid.
12. You have opportunities to travel within and outside the country.
13. you are not permitted to hit anyone during work hour, either within or outside the office premises no matter how provoked you are, that is immediate dismissal- end of story.

14. Graduate entry level salary is between 100k - 150k
15. Very safe office environment. you can leave your purse on top of your desk and come back tomorrow n find your money intact. if stolen by a jayjaycee, you can track the thief through CCTV cameras installed every where.

17. You rise fast if you treat customer as king and customers showers you with praises.
18. They pay you your gratuity within 2-3 months after you resign/sack
19. sacked rate is very very low, in fact reverse is the case.


FOR OUTSOURCE STAFFS 80% OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT PRESENT.


what are the evils I noticed among them:


FOR OUTSOURCE STAFFS and FULL STAFF

1. They are slave drivers, if you are lazy, you cant cope, you will be frustrated and your salary will stagnate
2. They sound racist - they feel they are better than us
3. The top positions are reserved for chinese/indian staffs, the highest Nigerians get is senior manager.
4. They can lie and teach you how to lie professionally just to get bye
5. They are very vindictive - they dont forgive or forget any wrong done to them, you will surely get repaid.
6. 85% of them treat local staff with disrespect except you personally stand up to your right and challenge such personally
7. they are hardened smokers!!!
8. They look at all local staff with suspicion as if you are a potential risk!
9. you are not permitted to run your personal business while working with them, that is instant dismissal if found out
10. they are very very strict on security, especially information security, if caught you can be dismissed
11. compared to other telecom company, remuneration is poor.
12. Chinese and indian staff are paid in dollars while local staffs are paid in Naira
13. if you're good on eye-service, you will flourish very well. Office polities is rampant.


Let me stop here, i know all these because I worked there for sometime before i moved to greater things.

I can appreciate how the OP feels, but that is the system every where, even in SHELL, Chevron, their staffs are still not satisfied.
its just human nature.

I usually say, if you cant beat them, while not leave them. God help us.

i-dojo:
I have worked with Huawei for the last 3 years and YES I think they need to do a lot to improve the working conditions of their staffs (outsourced or full) but I have always said these words "working in Huawei could be better, but it could also be a whole lot worse".

I have been on both sides of the fence....after 5 months of post-service unemployment I joined Huawei as an outsourced staff (on a much much better package than I'd ever thought a Chinese company would give). The reminders of those 5 months at home was a huge driving-force, letting me see through all the large work and long hours, and letting me put in my ALL with minimum complaints. I was lucky enough to have my work noticed by my superiors (Chinese and Nigerian) and after spending 16 months as an outsourced staff, I was converted to a full staff with all the benefits (well, almost all) highlighted by Kalan.

Yes....working in Huawei has it perks. I think racism is a bigger issue than maltreatment of staffs mentioned by OP (yes, some of that exists). Certain (keyword: Certain, not all) Chinese staffs are outright and very open racists!!! You also have scenarios where a young Chinese half your age is brought to understudy you and in a few months he is made your "Teamlead". Many people say the coming of the Chinese to Africa is the "second colonialism" and the actions of some of these guys drives home that fact.

I think its because many Huawei staff work closely with the staff of the Network Operators (often working directly from their offices) and on a daily basis we get to see the benefits of working of such major companies. SO, many-a-times we get to compare ourselves and our working conditions with that of the operators and find we come (very) short. This could be very discouraging and disgruntling. At the same time, we work closely with the staffs of Sub-Contractors of Huawei who get even lesser benefits for even more work. The sub-cons look up to "porting" to the vendors just as we vendors look up to "porting" to the operators. (and I just as I believe the operators look up to porting to the oil-and-gas industry)

In conclusion, like I said earlier, "working for Huawei could be better, but could be a whole lot worse!!!!"

funkybaby:

Another interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing.

Do you mind stating how much they pay outsourced staff with about one year experience?

i-dojo:



The general pay for an outsourced staff is about N150k (which comes to about N140k - N145k after tax). Sometimes if you are lucky, you could get about N170k or N200k depending on your project and your supervisor.

However, the "experience" matters alot. How well you adapt after employment is very Key! Huawei is a sink or swim world...do not expect any spoon feeding. If you cant keep up, you'll be blacklisted.

goodnature: The problem of this company (HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO. LIMITED) may persist if the right thing is not done. Do you know that I notified this company about Telecommunications opportunies in Nigeria in early 2002 before they came to Nigeria? I wrote our embassy in China to send me names of Telecommunications companies in China that I could woo to Nigeria and the company's name (HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO. LIMITED) was one of the companies sent to me. I then sent the company (HUAWEI) a letter and follow-up email to notify them about telecommunications opportunities in Nigeria. But I know they are making use of the opportunities to make money in Nigeria without being contacted. This company even tried to buy NITEL in 2005. See THE PUNCH 01/02/2005 page 1. I still have the copies of the letter and follow-up email sent to them in March, 2002. I also still have the copy of the letter sent to our embassy in China in Jan, 2002 to get their contacts and the letter sent to me from Nigerian embassy in China where the name of the company (HUAWEI TECHNOLOGHES CO. LIMITED was among the names of the companies sent to me. If God still remains God, HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO. LIMITED will continue to have problems if the right thing is not done. My email is: bola.lamina@gmail.com

funkybaby:

Another interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing.

Do you mind stating how much they pay outsourced staff with about one year experience?

Oxasbi: This is so inhuman we re nt robots 4 cryin out loud. were is Labour n the Nigerian Gov

Raxxye:

What you are saying about CNPP is true. My friend got an offer there early last year, but refused it(even though he was jobless) because of the gruelling work condition he saw the staff pass through. He felt he might die within a month if he accepted the offer and stayed. Their site was in one riverine area in Ondo State. 3 months on and 12 days off. They eat their own food and drink their own water while at work. They pay their own transport when going on the 12 days off(to and fro), plus their terrible living condition while at work, plus lots of other ill-treatments! Those Chinese guys are devils!

kalan:

articulate2013: Hello House,

I just got this mail that has been circulating within quarters at Huawei Technologies.
Kindly read through and express your view.

Thanks

Subject: ILL TREATMENT OF HUAWEI OUTSOURCED STAFF

Dear Sirs,
This is to bring to your notice the terrible attitude of Huawei
Technologies Company management in Nigeria towards their staff, especially
on the Airtel Managed Service.
There is a limit to which every human being can be pushed before he
pushes back. We have been pushed to that point and now we will push back
hard, so hard that it will result to a diplomatic issue.
We will list some of our reasons for vexing and hope the well meaning
people, that are still uncontaminated within the management level will take
this up.
Why should Huawei give an FME forty sites to maintain? This sites include
Airtel, Etisalat, MTN and Visafone. How do they expect the FME to be
efficient? We are also certain that the Customers are not aware about this.
This engineers work round the clock, without any form of incentive, risking
their lives even at night for a company that shows no sympathy. Many have
died on duty without any form of compensation. Today we say enough is
enough!
Early this year, the FMEs were FORCED to buy smart phones from Huawei
Technologies (a company we supposedly work for) through the (Huawei owned)
outsourced companies namely Rutotech, Lighting Networks and Qualiserve.
The cost of these phones were deducted from our salaries. Which kind of
company does that?
The worst of the victims are the Airtel NOC staff. The working conditions
are so poor that a seven months old baby was forced out of her mother's
womb prematurely (Her name is Fortune Longjohn). We work for forty eight
hours (48hrs) a week which is against Nigerian Labor Law, yet we do not get
any shift allowance. Like Mr Sunil Gupta (an indian) has boasted in the
past that the Nigerian Labour is on Huawei's payroll. Soon, we will find
out how true it is.
Some of the staff have worked for almost 3years and earn less than those
who have worked for just few months. The salary you earn in the NOC is
based on the "connection" you have. Imagine someone earns N100,000, while
another earns N300,000 doing the same job - Injustice!
One of the worst management "racist" decision is replacing Mr. Francis
Agbodike (a seasoned profession with vast international experience) with
the likes of R.S Tomar and Anicho Ogbonnaya. These two men, Tomar and
Anicho are far from being professionals, they take on personal vendetta on
staff, they know little or nothing about the job. It was only Agbodike that
brought Airtel Network outage to a single digit count. But because he is
outspoken against the injustice in the NOC, he was booted out.
Mr Tomar has once said that even if we do not want to work, there is a long
queue of people willing to take our jobs for a smaller salary. This
statement is highly demoralizing for people who give their lives to the
network. We work on a 48hr shift per week, public holidays and weekends
still yet we are not appreciated.

We are therefore calling on Airtel Nigeria Management to look into the
matter. We are not happy and will not want to seek the option of sabotaging
the network. We can and will choose that course of protest if this ill
treatment continues.

Also We are calling on the Huwei Management in China, The CEO Guo Ping, The
Founder Ren Zhengfei and Chairwoman - board of directors Sun Yafang. Please
call to order your staff in Nigeria.

We are also calling to the Chinese High Commission in Nigeria to use your
good office to bring sanity into this injustice.

We are also calling on the Nigeria Labour Congress, you have been accused
of gross corruption, this is the time to salvage yourself and rescue your
people from modern slavery in Huawei Technologies.

Finally We call on Mr Tony Ojobo, Director Public Affairs of the NCC and
Dr. Eugene Juwah the Executive Vice Chairman of the NCC. Huawei
Technologies should be investigated and then properly regulated.

We do not believe in violence, but if this issues are not addressed soon,
we might have to bring down the network. AND THIS IS NOT AN EMPTY THREAT.
Thank You.

Dignity Of Labour In Nigeria

baba11: .....likewise me....

funkybaby:

Thanks for this enlightening write up.

My unemployed cousin got a technical role with them and she refused to accept the offer. She was called up to pick up the offer letter and she didn't even bother going. Her excuse was that she's heard so much of how shabbily their staff are treated.

I told her that her decision was totally stupid and and your write up has proved it.

delta234: We,the masses of Nigeria should boycott these guys, with respect to whatever products/services they claim to be rendering in Nigeria. Since the government is not able to lift even a finger against these guys, it behoves on us to take necessary action(s).I remember the case of NB Plc when their erstwhile Managing Director was involved in 'dirty' politics.
I also think that more Nigerians(wealthy) should be encouraged to enter this sector and take it away from the foreigners who dominate that sector.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

LadyH: Hmmmm..... I hope they get their justice.


diz fin bout asians formin BOSS in our own country gotta stop.

Oguieke:
inhuman in huwai

idojo1:
I have worked with Huawei for the last 3 years and YES I think they need to do a lot to improve the working conditions of their staffs (outsourced or full) but I have always said these words "working in Huawei could be better, but it could also be a whole lot worse".

I have been on both sides of the fence....after 5 months of post-service unemployment I joined Huawei as an outsourced staff (on a much much better package than I'd ever thought a Chinese company would give). The reminders of those 5 months at home was a huge driving-force, letting me see through all the large work and long hours, and letting me put in my ALL with minimum complaints. I was lucky enough to have my work noticed by my superiors (Chinese and Nigerian) and after spending 16 months as an outsourced staff, I was converted to a full staff with all the benefits (well, almost all) highlighted by Kalan.

Yes....working in Huawei has it perks. I think racism is a bigger issue than maltreatment of staffs mentioned by OP (yes, some of that exists). Certain (keyword: Certain, not all) Chinese staffs are outright and very open racists!!! You also have scenarios where a young Chinese half your age is brought to understudy you and in a few months he is made your "Teamlead". Many people say the coming of the Chinese to Africa is the "second colonialism" and the actions of some of these guys drives home that fact.

I think its because many Huawei staff work closely with the staff of the Network Operators (often working directly from their offices) and on a daily basis we get to see the benefits of working of such major companies. SO, many-a-times we get to compare ourselves and our working conditions with that of the operators and find we come (very) short. This could be very discouraging and disgruntling. At the same time, we work closely with the staffs of Sub-Contractors of Huawei who get even lesser benefits for even more work. The sub-cons look up to "porting" to the vendors just as we vendors look up to "porting" to the operators. (and I just as I believe the operators look up to porting to the oil-and-gas industry)

In conclusion, like I said earlier, "working for Huawei could be better, but could be a whole lot worse!!!!"

articulate2013:



You need to put a whole lot of things into perspective to really understand why the Staff of Huawei Technologies will be that bitter. Presently Huawei Technologies is the Biggest Telecommunication Vendor in the World. At the moment Huawei Technologies Controls over 55% of the Nigerian Telecommunications Equipment market and still growing at an alarming rate. In fact with the rate it is going, the market is tending towards a monopoly, as they are muscling out other vendors like Alcatel Lucent, Ericsson, Nokia System Networks, Motorola etc.

The staff pay package, welfare, working conditions and Training is far better at all the above mentioned Vendors and Huawei's doesn't even come close to it.
The practice the world over is for NOC staff to be entitled to Shift allowance ( cos they work 24/7) and also entitled to Overtime ( cos they work more than the regular 40hrs/week). None of these is applicable to the NOC Staff of Huawei both on Etisalat and Airtel Project.

I agree with you that the writer didn't do such a good job with the write up, but the claims the Writer made in that write up are nothing but the Gospel truth about happenings in the Company.


I know these things because I worked at Huawei Technologies for a couple of years and I still have a lot of Friends there.

Shyna112:
The worst place to work is huawei, i work with them for more than 3 years as a microwave transmission engr, you are made to travel almost every day to the core north where they are crisis, you dont have any time for your family always away from home for more than 5month, you are made to travel at night in other to meet up with transmission work and if you don't, you are given a bad grade, and bad grade reduces your salary all this must be put to a stop, because we nigerians aren't slaves, we have our own right to work and to be treated in a good manner, that is just one of the problems we have with outsourcing work, huawei outsource staff are just like slaves, something must be done about this on time, just that i don't know who to report to, i would have taken up a personal case with them.