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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by ochejoseph(m): 3:54pm On Dec 09, 2013
UPDATE! LETS STOP COMPLAINING
LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE DOING. SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO IMPORT AND BECOME PERPETUAL SLAVES ?

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 3:58pm On Dec 09, 2013
Okija_juju:



Easier said than done sir..

For such high powered research to thrive, you need good and stable power supply. You also need good and stable education system (as most researches are carried out by universities). O and lets also not forget that there is a limit to how much one can bend science as it stands.

My take is that rather than focus on sponsoring researches aimed at trying to grow fishes on trees, lets first of all fix the things that are within our immediate control, like Fuel.. Maybe we should first start trying to sponsor researches that would reduce our reliance on imported petroleum products.

We cant have it all.. Nigerias problem is not that we are not self reliant in home grown food stuff. Its because we are not self reliant in anything.

Sardines can be imported from Morocco, I dont care, but atleast lets be exporting the petroleum products that we have to them as well.. Malaysia can keep selling us phones, but how about we start selling them cocoa or cashew nuts..


This banning habit is the dumbest idea ever.. Imagine, we banned importation of packaged juice, but allow Dangote and CHI Nigeria import processed juice and re package it to sub-standard quality and sell it to us.. grin Thats why I either drink freshly squeezed juice or buy imported brands because all the governments policy has done is take away my consumer right to chose and give these companies a sort of mopolistic hold on an entire country..

[b]This is where you've got it all wrong again. The research for genetic breeding have long been done and these fishery companies are already using the method to meet consumers demand. In fact most fishes you eat these days are Genetic breeds and they grow bigger and weigh more, which maximizes profit for the company.

What about Chickens?
Turkeys?
Meat?

Do you think these companies give them regular feeds? Hell NO!!!

All they need to do is build a plant here and run the process in Nigeria. They can come in with some of their expatriates and employ Nigeria graduates as assistants, train them and in less than 10 years. They'll have a new breed of professionals in fisheries.

How many Asians do you think can afford a tertiary education?
How many go to the University? But they are specialists in their fields cos they were trained by the industry the work for.

Don't discourage this, every country passed through this stage. We cannot continue importing that which we can produce locally.

Mba nu!! Ona e meme sad sad
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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by taharqa: 4:00pm On Dec 09, 2013
*smh* @Nigerians.... After reading this thread, every single comment, I now reali realise and appreciate d concept of 'Government': which is that only a few persons should make decisions that runs a society/state, and not d Majority (except perhaps tru having d power to 'choosing' those few persons and influencing them). I now better appreciate the WISDOM of those persons who 'invented' this Concept. Might be the Smartest thing man ever 'invented'..
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 4:02pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

I think you're rather STU.PID.

Does Argentinians eat their sea water fish? YES

Does Irelandians eat their sea water fish? YES

Does Norway eat their sea water fish? YES

SO WHY IN THE NAME OF POPSICLE CAN'T YOU EAT YOUR OWN FISH? embarassed embarassed embarassed

I hate Nigerians mentality. I bloody hate it. I just want to nuke the $hit out of that f@$ked up country called Nigeria. Nothing good ever pleases Nigerians. The word "NIGERIA" irks the $hit out of me. embarassed embarassed embarassed
I actually underestimated your dumbness, you are far more clueless than I gave you credit for, birdbrain.
There are species of fishes that are origin to a particular country due to the natural of their water and thats the major reason why countries including Argentina,Ireland and Norway imports fishes abroad.
You prolly think since everyone is farming catfishes then we have enough,hell no. Species of fishes like sarbalo,sardine,herring,titus and tuna are not in Nigerian waters,even the specie of fish people mistake for croaker is actually not croaker as croakers and sarbalo are mainly imported from Argentina.
Maybe you should ask yourself how many metric tons of fishes Nigerians consume annually,we dont have the capacity to supply that huge amount of fishes to the domestic market annually let alone satisfying peoples need for the different variety of fishes.
This is not one of those technologies or agricultural produce that will generate export duties to govt account, its pointless banning the importation of fishes.
Hope you get that into your coconut head, chronic goon.

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:05pm On Dec 09, 2013
speedyboi:
because we don't need it. Let us package and garnish the 'alarans' and 'kotes' grin in Nigeria and they will taste just as good as geisha.
but we don't have alaran and kote in Nigeria (mackerels). They can only be found in high seas. They can't be bred in fish ponds too. That's why they are called Atlantic Mackerel.

And i don't think cat fish is rich and extremely high in vitamin B 12, vitamin D and omega 3.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:06pm On Dec 09, 2013
chucky234: I actually underestimated your dumbness, you are far more clueless than I gave you credit for, birdbrain.
There species of fishes that are origin to a particular country due to the natural of their water and thats the major reason why countries including Argentina,Ireland and Norway imports fishes abroad.
You prolly think since everyone farming catfishes then we have enough, sarbalo,sardine,herring,titus and tuna are not in Nigerian water,even the specie of fish people mistake for croaker is actually not croaker as croakers and sarbalo are mainly imported from Argentina.
Maybe you should ask yourself how many metric tons of fish Nigerians consume annually,we dont have the capacity to supply amount of fishes to the domestic market annually let alone satisfying peoples need for the different variety of fishes.
This is not one of those technology or agricultural produce that will generate export duties to govt account, its pointless banning fishes.
Hope you get that into your coconut head, chronic goon.

I think you should read more science books and stay away from SpongeBob SquarePants for sometime.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:10pm On Dec 09, 2013
I laugh in Urdu. The question is how prepared are we to meet up with the shortfall? what are we doing against smuggling in these products? In the long run, the masses suffer it most because those in governance still get all this imported stuff yet, do not encourage its importation to enable us have varieties at cheap rates to buy.

Until we have an enabling environment supported with easy access to cash to set up necessary tools for our provisions, I do not think it is wise to applaud such moves.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:15pm On Dec 09, 2013
Naijamericana:

Abi? Ask them o! Why dont we stop importation of fuel or better yet the industrial scale theft of crude oil, nko? $1billion a month in oil theft! So we are banning import of rice and fish, like its something that will suddenly make naija richer. Sometimes our people are so easily swayed by the bullcrap the politicians spew. Why dont we ban importation of cellphones as well? We are banning car import might as well ban them as well.

I don't think it is in any ways their fault. If you read through most of the responses we have on this thread, you will agree with me that we get the leaders we deserve.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 4:17pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

You should read more science books and stay away from SpongeBob SquarePants for sometime.
Joke of the century....
You dont need a science book to know that sea fishes like mackerels,titus,tuna,sarbalo can never survives in Nigerian waters, common sense will tell you that.
What about stockfish imported from Norway or Blue Whitening (kpanla) imported from Ireland, your science book didnt tell you that you can never find such specie of fishes in any Nigerian waters.
Olodo rabata.

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:17pm On Dec 09, 2013
solomon111: Fuel is a major commodity.
It would be foolishness for govt to stop it now when we can't sufficiently refine for local consumption.
By the time dangote refineries come on stream and govt stops fuel imports,i hope you won't start complaining about monopoly.
And yes,banning cement has helped the economy by the creation of jobs as increase in demand of local cements has led to increase in supply by dangote and co which has led to the employment of increased manpower.

Are you for real? I think you do not understand the business climate of Nigeria. Mind you, most of your acclaimed local production of cement are just local packaging. I think it is better you sought more information before coming to expose yourself.

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:20pm On Dec 09, 2013
favour ume:

We will get there, na small small grin. Now BOI is trying to get funds accross. Even commercial banks have been told to give loans to credible business. With this ban, we will have people to sell to.
BOI?.... yes
commercial bank? NO
Commercial bank would not give loan for fish farming even they claim to do. It's a very risky venture.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:21pm On Dec 09, 2013
solomon111: It seems Nigerians don't realize yet that our comparative advantage is in agriculture.
Agriculture as a whole contributes up to 40% of our GDP.
If we want to create enough jobs,we need to develop all the forms of agriculture available to us.
And we can't keep looking for the easy way out by importing.

Have you asked yourself or read what structural transformation implies? If you say Agriculture contributes up to 40% of our GDP, from what perspective is this? Is it in terms of value added, employment, or consumption? I would appreciate a response on my question and we can then take it further from there.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:22pm On Dec 09, 2013
saxywale:
BOI?.... yes
commercial bank? NO
Commercial bank would not give loan for fish farming even they claim to do. It's a very risky venture.

Please, do you mean BOI now give loans to SMEs?
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:23pm On Dec 09, 2013
saxywale:
but we don't have alaran and kote in Nigeria (mackerels). They can only be found in high seas. They can't be bred in fish ponds too. That's why they are called Atlantic Mackerel.

And i don't think cat fish is rich and extremely high in vitamin B 12, vitamin D and omega 3.

Bro we can import the Baby mackerels and breed them in modified salt water. We can breed any specie of fish with a little genetic modification.

This policy is a good one, let's embrace it.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 4:24pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

I think you're rather STU.PID.

Does Argentinians eat their sea water fish? YES

Does Irelandians eat their sea water fish? YES

Does Norway eat their sea water fish? YES

SO WHY IN THE NAME OF POPSICLE CAN'T YOU EAT YOUR OWN FISH? embarassed embarassed embarassed

I hate Nigerians mentality. I bloody hate it. I just want to nuke the $hit out of that f@$ked up country called Nigeria. Nothing good ever pleases Nigerians. The word "NIGERIA" irks the $hit out of me. embarassed embarassed embarassed

Get a life and stop beating yourself silly.

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:26pm On Dec 09, 2013
chucky234: Joke of the century....
You dont need a science book to that sea fishes like mackerels,titus,tuna,sarbalo can never survives in Nigerian waters, common sense will tell you that.
What about stockfish imported from Norway or Blue Whitening (kpanla) imported from Ireland, you science book didnt tell that you can never find such specie of fishes in any Nigerian waters.
Olodo rabata.

I don't want to argue with you anymore. If you think you're going to import a different specie of baby fishes and then throw them into the ocean. You really need to have your head checked.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Okijajuju1(m): 4:48pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

Bro we can import the Baby mackerels and breed them in modified salt water. We can breed any specie of fish with a little genetic modification.

This policy is a good one, let's embrace it.


Nigeria should spend so much on raising fishes artificially when we can be focused on refining fuel locally and using flared gas to power plants and industries..

Not every locally available good must be banned.. Thats why its called commerce.. The day I tasted the difference between Coca Colas 'Cappy' and Coca Colas 'Minute maid', I officially stopped drinking locally packaged juice... angry
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Nobody: 4:48pm On Dec 09, 2013
GboyegaD:

Please, do you mean BOI now give loans to SMEs?
yes, they do. I only know for fish farming though. i recently watched a BOI documentary where some groups of fish farmers where given loans.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 4:54pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

I don't want to argue with you anymore. If you think you're going to import a different specie of baby fishes and then throw them into the ocean. You really need to have your head checked.
Cluelessly dumb as always.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by favourume(f): 4:58pm On Dec 09, 2013
Okija_juju:



[b]Easier said than done sir..

For such high powered research to thrive, you need good and stable power supply. You also need good and stable education system (as most researches are carried out by universities). O and lets also not forget that there is a limit to how much one can bend science as it stands.

My take is that rather than focus on sponsoring researches aimed at trying to grow fishes on trees, lets first of all fix the things that are within our immediate control, like Fuel.. Maybe we should first start trying to sponsor researches that would reduce our reliance on imported petroleum products.

We cant have it all.. Nigerias problem is not that we are not self reliant in home grown food stuff. Its because we are not self reliant in anything.

Sardines can be imported from Morocco, I dont care, but atleast lets be exporting the petroleum products that we have to them as well.. Malaysia can keep selling us phones, but how about we start selling them cocoa or cashew nuts..


This banning habit is the dumbest idea ever.. Imagine, we banned importation of packaged juice, but allow Dangote and CHI Nigeria import processed juice and re package it to sub-standard quality and sell it to us.. grin Thats why I either drink freshly squeezed juice or buy imported brands because all the governments policy has done is take away my consumer right to chose and give these companies a sort of mopolistic hold on an entire country..

Atleast, it has created plenty jobs for people- the workers, those selling the packaging material, and others involved undecided
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 5:01pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough:

Bro we can import the Baby mackerels and breed them in modified salt water. We can breed any specie of fish with a little genetic modification.

This policy is a good one, let's embrace it.
You banned the importation of matured fishes killed from their natural habitat then went ahead to import baby mackerels to breed in artificially modified salt water.
You are way dumber than GEJ, hahaha dumbest.

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 5:02pm On Dec 09, 2013
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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by freethug: 5:04pm On Dec 09, 2013
ochejoseph: Seriously I used to think it was a bad Idea but not anymore ,

1 with the No of Titus Gesha etc that Nigerian Students alone consume any right thinking Company would have thought of establishing a processing plant in Nigeria but No! For several Decades this Guys prefer to create Jobs for their people and ship the Fish for us to CONSUME

2. When the Obasanjo administration banned chicken I was a student at that time , I screamed to the heavens that it was suicidal as we lacked capacity to produce the quantity of chicken needed . I was completely wrong , I underestimated the entrepreneurial powers of the average Nigerian , today we are producing More chicken and eggs than we can consume . I could not believe we were importing eggs at a point in this country

3. We are not a land locked country ,our vast stretch of atlantic ocean could be used for something better than kidnapping ,piracy and Oil Bunkering

4 I know several families that produce and supply Chickens to Cold rooms, and this has created another stream of Good Income for several Household

We must Believe in ourselves ,we must stop this consuming Mentality , I grew up know Derica Tin tomatoes, Gesha ,Titus etc its time we stop wasting our harvests and start creating our own brands .

GOD BLESS NIGERIA

I am sorry i do not agree with you, we produce Eggs in abundance, but 80% of the chicken you find in the cold rooms are smuggled in through Cotonou, the policy to ban importation of Chicken was a selfish one by Obasanjo, who thought his farm could provide the whole of Nigeria with Chicken, his farm cannot even meet Chicken demand from Ogun state.
This policy if true is very stupid and not well thought out, we should have concrete structures on ground, and the most important thing that drives business in a country is POWER, the Government should tackle that area first, because when we use diesel to generate power, it makes more sense to import.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by GboyegaD(m): 5:06pm On Dec 09, 2013
saxywale:
yes, they do. I only know for fish farming though. i recently watched a BOI documentary where some groups of fish farmers where given loans.

Ok. If it is extended to other sectors, then good otherwise, it is an idea that is bound to fail.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by chucky234(m): 5:09pm On Dec 09, 2013
speedyboi:
because we don't need it. Let us package and garnish the 'alarans' and 'kotes' grin in Nigeria and they will taste just as good as geisha.
lol....
And you think kote is native to Nigeria.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Dee60: 5:11pm On Dec 09, 2013
ochejoseph: Seriously I used to think it was a bad Idea but not anymore ,

1 with the No of Titus Gesha etc that Nigerian Students alone consume any right thinking Company would have thought of establishing a processing plant in Nigeria but No! For several Decades this Guys prefer to create Jobs for their people and ship the Fish for us to CONSUME

2. When the Obasanjo administration banned chicken I was a student at that time , I screamed to the heavens that it was suicidal as we lacked capacity to produce the quantity of chicken needed . I was completely wrong , I underestimated the entrepreneurial powers of the average Nigerian , today we are producing More chicken and eggs than we can consume . I could not believe we were importing eggs at a point in this country

3. We are not a land locked country ,our vast stretch of atlantic ocean could be used for something better than kidnapping ,piracy and Oil Bunkering

4 I know several families that produce and supply Chickens to Cold rooms, and this has created another stream of Good Income for several Household

We must Believe in ourselves ,we must stop this consuming Mentality , I grew up know Derica Tin tomatoes, Gesha ,Titus etc its time we stop wasting our harvests and start creating our own brands .

GOD BLESS NIGERIA

I concur.
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Okijajuju1(m): 5:12pm On Dec 09, 2013
favour ume:

Atleast, it has created plenty jobs for people- the workers, those selling the packaging material, and others involved undecided

What jobs?! grin

All they did was take away the power of choice from clients, eliminated competition and gave the power of monopoly to the producers.

Employment you said.. Even the darn packaging materials (Tetrapack) are manufactured abroad.. grin

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Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by phantom(m): 5:15pm On Dec 09, 2013
simpleseyi: This is the best thing Jonathan has done since his assumption of office. Poor masses don't need to eat fish. Chickens and turkeys have been banned since by the monster called Obasanjo thereby making the poor masses eat more of low quality fish because prices of the smuggled frozen foods have sky rocketed. Now that Jonathan has taken the best decision of his life since the time he married Dame Sheppopo by banning importation of fish, the poor masses should eat their eba or fufu without fish or chicken or meat. That is the punishment for being poor. Where were your parents when others were embezzling money and looting the treasury? You can all "Go and Die". Jonathan's over 1.3 billion naira food budget can buy him human beings, I suspect that is what he eats.

Several nonentities have died and have been taken to "heaven and hell" by the "angels" before they resurrected and made CD naming all the people they saw in hell. None of them saw Maryam Babangida, Segun Agagu, Sanni Abacha, Augustus Aikhiomu,, Mike Akhigbe, Jonathan's brother, Dame Shepopo's foster mother and other looters. I beg help me ask all the Lazarus that are making and selling CD of heaven and hell visit that who and who did they see.

GOD is watching on a 5D television.
grin this man you dey mad o! But na true you talk sha lol
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by jamislaw(m): 5:24pm On Dec 09, 2013
Nawa o
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Naijamericana: 5:27pm On Dec 09, 2013
If you want to develop the agricultural sector here are some pointers to consider...

1. Create interest in farming and proved subsidies like they do in developed nations
2. Institute tariffs on imported products and commodities. That way, you stimulate people to go into farming and earn income for the country thereby killing two birds with one stone
3. Provide agricultural loans for farming
4. Don't focus on just satisfying domestic demand, create the mindset of being an exporter of high quality goods
5. Invest in infrastructure (electricity)
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Naijamericana: 5:28pm On Dec 09, 2013
Naijamericana: If you want to develop the agricultural sector here are some pointers to consider...

1. Create interest in farming and proved subsidies like they do in developed nations
2. Institute tariffs on imported products and commodities. That way, you stimulate people to go into farming and earn income for the country thereby killing two birds with one stone
3. Provide agricultural loans for farming
4. Don't focus on just satisfying domestic demand, create the mindset of being an exporter of high quality goods
5. Invest in infrastructure (electricity, roads, storage facility)
Re: FG Bans Fish Importation by Okijajuju1(m): 5:29pm On Dec 09, 2013
freethug:

I am sorry i do not agree with you, we produce Eggs in abundance, but 80% of the chicken you find in the cold rooms are smuggled in through Cotonou, the policy to ban importation of Chicken was a selfish one by Obasanjo, who thought his farm could provide the whole of Nigeria with Chicken, his farm cannot even meet Chicken demand from Ogun state.
This policy if true is very stupid and not well thought out, we should have concrete structures on ground, and the most important thing that drives business in a country is POWER, the Government should tackle that area first, because when we use diesel to generate power, it makes more sense to import.



No Power,
No Road
No Water
No railways
High taxes
Multiple taxes
Unfavorable market conditions
poor technical/technological/mechanical and IT support
Insecurity
weak economy
poor research
Lack of skilled labour
High interest rates



Meanwhile, the government has just removed the cheapest source of protein, Omega 3 and other nutirent from the reach of the poor..

Some people are supporting it saying that we should start producing our own food locally which is cool.. However, how many poor families can afford our locally caught & reared fish?!

How many Nigerian homes can afford "LIVE CHICKEN"?!

grin

Next thing na to ban the eating of Kpomo in Nigeria to promote our leather industries.. grin Meanwhile, poor man no get 1 lether product for ehn body.. Even ehn bathroom slippers sef no be leather.. grin




May Baba God never allow you to see poverty with your eyes.. Just because you dey chop food with assorted meat, no mean say na so everybody dey chop o!! Even Kpomo sef is no longer cheap for some homes.. Incase una don forget, minimum wage is 20 Thousand Naira (which is not even being paid in all states sef) and 20'k minimum wage means approximately 650 Naira per day.. How much be catfish again?! grin



I think what we need is a genuinely poor Prosident and leaders.. The rich in Nigeria have all lost touch with reality. No wonder David Mark once said GSM is not for the poor.. Now Geisha is soon gonna be not for the poor.. Next on their list will be Kpomo and Pure water.. grin After that Amageddon.. grin

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