Atheists like logical thinking ....now here's logic
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You believe in the "big bang/evolution" theory? ..."what set that engine in motion?, what is the origin of that "spinning ball of matter"?"
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"where did the raw materials for the 'forming' of the universe come from, if there is no creator"
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And the big Question is
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"WHY IS THERE SOMETHING AT ALL, INSTEAD OF NOTHING?"
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These all point to creation, but if you have another posssible means, ....please state
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Oghos1: these atheists are getting it wrong.

You only need to look around you to see evidence of these.
Go back to your villages and tell me all the native doctors there are powerless.
All my brothers in the east (without being tribalistic) look around you and tell me that people who do rituals for blood money, occults and other forms of dark powers do not exist.

You don't even need to go back as far as creation.

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Hmmm
datz food 4 tot


as soon as u ponder on dis, u leav d world of atheism, 4 der is no way deze thinz popped up spontaneously.
I believe der is a creator
who dat creator is, is what remains

No one knows why there is something, rather than nothing. 'god' is just an easy way out.

If God could come from nothing, why can't the universe come from nothing?

aManFromMars: No one knows why there is something, rather than nothing. 'god' is just an easy way out.

If God could come from nothing, why can't the universe come from nothing?

lets forget easy ways now
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Okay. ..i agree with you, ...there is no God, .....but how else could there have been something instead of nothing. ....saying nobody knows, is proving yourself to be agnostic, and no atheist

aManFromMars: No one knows why there is something, rather than nothing. 'god' is just an easy way out.

If God could come from nothing, why can't the universe come from nothing?

bro ...i'm being logical here, ...
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I ddnt say God created ...now did i....
I'm saying that its not logical, to say that the universe was not created ....that it sprung up by itself .....BEN CARSON, world's leading brain surgeon even said that the human brain CANNOT have come by chance ....
These things are too organised and intelligently put in place, to discard creation

Dibu_Ojerinde:
lets forget easy ways now
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Okay. ..i agree with you, ...there is no God, .....but how else could there have been something instead of nothing. ....saying nobody knows, is proving yourself to be agnostic, and no atheist

WRONG, 0/10

Saying you don't know is honesty. It has nothing to do with atheism.

Why not pick up this book and read. "A universe from nothing: why there is something rather than nothing" by lawrence krauss

I'm yet to read the book myself anyway, but who knows, you might find an answer there

Good question OP but who created God, what and where did God come from?

I'm not an atheist but these are the questions you expect to be asked in retaliation from an atheist.

Swagalord18:
bro ...i'm being logical here, ...
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I ddnt say God created ...now did i....
I'm saying that its not logical, to say that the universe was not created ....that it sprung up by itself .....BEN CARSON, world's leading brain surgeon even said that the human brain CANNOT have come by chance ....
These things are too organised and intelligently put in place, to discard creation

And who said it came by chance? Who?

Reincarnated: Good question OP but who created God, what and where did God come from?

I'm not an atheist but these are the questions you expect to be asked in retaliation from an atheist.

+confused+
who is talking 'bout God here?

rationalmind:

And who said it came by chance? Who?

oh so you know it can't have

rationalmind:

WRONG, 0/10

Saying you don't know is honesty. It has nothing to do with atheism.

Why not pick up this book and read. "A universe from nothing: why there is something rather than nothing" by lawrence krauss

I'm yet to read the book myself anyway, but who knows, you might find an answer there

i've read the book .....hence my topic

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The man even says that .....as soon as you ask that question, ..you have gone beyond ...the normal ..

^^

Swagalord18:

"where did the raw materials for the 'forming' of the universe come from, if there is no creator"
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And the big Question is
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"WHY IS THERE SOMETHING AT ALL, INSTEAD OF NOTHING?"
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If you answer where God came from, i'd answer these questions.

Swagalord18:
oh so you know it can't have

No, natural selection is the answer not chance.

"WHY IS THERE SOMETHING AT ALL, INSTEAD OF NOTHING?"
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These all point to creation, but if you have another posssible means, ....please state

this is a flawed conclusion because by this logic, you can say that everything that exists must have been created...including God. This leads to an infinite regress.

Nobody knows why there is something instead of nothing, religions pretend to know but they actually don't. God has not and cannot be proven to exist and consequently atheist choose not to follow the easy answer and say GOD DID IT!

Swagalord18:
i've read the book .....hence my topic

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The man even says that .....as soon as you ask that question, ..you have gone beyond ...the normal ..

And what do you have to say about his zero net energy argument.

From the review I read online, he argued that, if the net energy of the universe is zero, and the universe adds up to nothing, why should we invoke a God to explain its cause

Who created God?

My favourite question to religionists when they say God did it is to ask them how he did it. Once you ask them that question, just watch their silence.

They ask you to explain how science explains it and fail to tell you how God did it

I am not an Atheist, neither am I a religious extremist.
but as a Christian, I really wanna understand what I
believe in. I want to know whom I worship.

I am not worshipping God cos I was born in a Christian family
I'm doing so cos I have had my time to find out if truly this
being/deity called God really exist.
And truly HE DOES EXIST!!!

here are some reason why I really believe he exist:
everything is the world is orderly.
there are rules guiding everything.
look at the law of rain recycling
look at the law of planting a seed;
when it dies, it comes to life again.

but for now, I don't go to church.
I worship God in my house.

Swagalord18:
bro ...i'm being logical here, ...
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I ddnt say God created ...now did i....
I'm saying that its not logical, to say that the universe was not created ....that it sprung up by itself .....BEN CARSON, world's leading brain surgeon even said that the human brain CANNOT have come by chance ....
These things are too organised and intelligently put in place, to discard creation

Ben Carson is a Christian so he won't be objective...... Well two arguments can be placed to you

1) using your own logic, if we assume there is God, then who created God.......
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2) we could also say some aliens who evolved over trillions of years did some experiments that resulted in our galaxy

Swagalord18:
bro ...i'm being logical here, ...
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I ddnt say God created ...now did i....
I'm saying that its not logical, to say that the universe was not created ....that it sprung up by itself .....BEN CARSON, world's leading brain surgeon even said that the human brain CANNOT have come by chance ....
These things are too organised and intelligently put in place, to discard creation

Can you create energy?

And who gives a Bleep what Ben Carson says? Is he God? That is his opinion, and he is well entitled to it. People are born with brain defects, is that also proof of God's organization skills?

unmask: Who created God?

GBAM! My point proven.


At OP, you don't question the believes of a person, if you yourself don't know how to rationally prove that your religion is not based on mythological believes or infact...delusion grandeur. Go about your gaddamn life and serve your God. If you can bring people to Christ/ bring people to believe that there is a God, then do so without condemning their current ideology.

rationalmind:

No, natural selection is the answer not chance.

lmao .....so natural selection brought about the universe from nothing

Reincarnated: ^^





If you answer where God came from, i'd answer these questions.

off context
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I never said "God created" ...so u can go ahead and answer me

obisage: I am not an Atheist, neither am I a religious extremist.
but as a Christian, I really wanna understand what I
believe in. I want to know whom I worship.

I am not worshipping God cos I was born in a Christian family
I'm doing so cos I have had my time to find out if truly this
being/deity called God really exist.
And truly HE DOES EXIST!!!

here are some reason why I really believe he exist:
everything is the world is orderly.
there are rules guiding everything.
look at the law of rain recycling
look at the law of planting a seed;
when it dies, it comes to life again.

but for now, I don't go to church.
I worship God in my house.

interactions of matter

If God created, from what did he create. The artist needs crayons, paint and a canvas.

- is he in our universe? Can we have access to him? The characters in a book can never have access to the author's mind.

Most importantly, would an omni-x God be bothered about belief or lack of belief of his creations?

Swagalord18:
off context
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I never said "God created" ...so u can go ahead and answer me

let's assume we all say we don't know the answers to your questions, so what point are you trying to bring out?

Swagalord18:
off context
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I never said "God created" ...so u can go ahead and answer me

You implied that there was a creator. See below (I helped you bold it)
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Swagalord18:

"where did the raw materials for the 'forming' of the universe come from, if there is no creator"

You said "if there is no creator" which implies that you meant there is a creator and that creator is GOD, hence "He created". You do not question the believes of another person, when you yourself have no way of proving the existence of your own believes. If you can answer where your creator came from (logically) then I will answer those questions for you.

Swagalord18:
lmao .....so natural selection brought about the universe from nothing

This is what I hate. Genuinely trying to misrepresent what someone says.

Here is what you said

Swagalord18:
BEN CARSON, world's leading
brain surgeon even said that the human
brain CANNOT have come by chance

I attempted to show you no one says the human brain came by chance therefore, ben carson is absolutely wrong.

You reverted and asked if the universe came by natural selection.

Mr Troll:
this is a flawed conclusion because by this logic, you can say that everything that exists must have been created...including God. This leads to an infinite regress.

Nobody knows why there is something instead of nothing, religions pretend to know but they actually don't. God has not and cannot be proven to exist and consequently atheist choose not to follow the easy answer and say GOD DID IT!

i'm sure you're not dumb ....
Look around you ....all the cycles and creatures and the earths perfect position and shields....
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I've been in your shoes before, ...but when i went deep into education, ......i saw that Ben Carson was right

I'm going to my place of work now .....
I'l get back to y'all later in the day

Swagalord18:
i'm sure you're not dumb ....
Look around you ....all the cycles and creatures and the earths perfect position and shields....
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I've been in your shoes before, ...but when i went deep into education, ......i saw that Ben Carson was right

what nonsense is this?

Earths perfect position? I'm sure you got deeply educated by answersingenesis.

Btw, you don't know me so stop the foolish assumption that you have been in my s appeal to emotions. Give proof of a creator or shut up. I have little patience for recycled garbage.