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How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 10:33am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Three years ago, when General Godwin Alabi-Isama turned 70; he came to Nigeria from the US to celebrate his birthday. His close friend, General Alani Akinrinade who attended the ceremony, gave him two copies of General Olusegun Obasanjo's My Command. By that time Alabi-Isama had heard about the book but had never read it. Akinrinade had told his friend that the book would turn his belly. It surely did. General Alabi-Isama discovered that there were so many distortions of fact in the book, and he immediately dismissed it as a tapestry of inaccuracies. As he read it, he marked out not less than eighty two passages in My Command where General Obasanjo simply told outright lies to massage his ego and damage the reputation of his colleagues. Alabi-Isama then thought that since he was still a moving encyclopaedia on the three Marine Commando Division, it was time to tear the painted mask of Obasanjo's lies. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 10:35am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Four days after he resumed duty, Obasanjo's first battle experience as a commander of 3 Marine Commando Division was a disaster. In what Alabi-Isama describes as a complete disregard of the sound advice of his sector commanders, he ordered Godwin Ally to attack Ohoba, a town 40 kilometres south of Owerri. The Division lost over 1,000 troops. This loss still enrages Alabi-Isama, who suggests that in a saner society, Obasanjo should have lost his commission on account of that tragedy. Why would he be bothered? Did the high command in Lagos ever sanction Murtala Mohammed of 2 Division for ordering an Asaba - River Niger crossing, against the advice of Akinrinade in which about 2,000 troops died by drowning and bullet wounds in the River Niger? Alabi-Isama reminds us many times that Obasanjo, the blundering Commander of 3 Marine Commando Division "had no battle experience and had never fought at any of the three fronts of the war. He had never commanded a battalion or a brigade, now he had to command a division in battle. That was why his military administration and logistics placing was that of a cadet". |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 10:41am On Dec 15, 2013 |
By Sam Omatseye Last week, in the presence of other generals, a new book was launched by a participant and witness. The book, titled The Tragedy of Victory, shot to attention through a series of interviews the author, General Alabi Isama, granted this newspaper.http://thenationonlineng.net/new/obituary/ |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Nobody: 10:48am On Dec 15, 2013 |
The man wrote a letter and asked a lot of questions many "Nigerians" are asking. However, rather than provide answers, you lot have resulted to cheap gimmicks and character assassination. The whole thing just shows that those in-charge of Nigeria are the dumbest people ever. These people shouldn't even be allowed to lord over a horse barn/stable or a fish pond. And the fact that these people are in-charge of the biggest black country in the world, just shows how messed up we're as a people. SMFDH! 1 Like |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 10:54am On Dec 15, 2013 |
shymexx: The man wrote a letter and asked a lot of questions many "Nigerians" are asking. However, rather than provide answers, you lot have resulted to cheap gimmicks and character assassination. When a man like Obj that his nation and people have been extremely kind and generous to writes the kind of letter riddled with lies, misrepresentation of facts and pettiness like he did, it becomes expedient for his character to be examined with a microscope. Obasanjo was no hero, isnt one now and is not about to save Nigeria by writing a dubious letter that attempts to sabotage someone else's administration. 1 Like |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Nobody: 10:59am On Dec 15, 2013 |
wesley80: Who cares if he is/was a hero or not? The crux of the matter is that GEJ is the president of Nigeria and he owes every Nigerian out there an explanation on how he's managing the affairs of the country and the oath he swore to. And OBJ, as a Nigerian citizen, has a right to ask questions. The questions have been asked - how about tell GEJ to provide answers? Whatever OBJ does/did/has-done/is-doing is none of my business. He's his own man and he isn't a public official anymore. Stop this inane character assassination and focus on the real issue - which is the letter. Go provide answers to that! 1 Like |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 11:10am On Dec 15, 2013 |
shymexx:And what part of my post gave you the impression that I give a flying fork about what Shymmex cares? The man is a two faced lying General that will do anything and all things to achieve his goal including distorting facts as people know and witnessed. His antecedents are enough to throw whatever he wrote into the garbage bin. Your 'bumbling General' has zero credibility except in the eyes of his ethnic and political followers. Whatever he wrote is only fit for the garbage bin, no sentiments. Dump 'em all! 4 Likes |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 11:10am On Dec 15, 2013 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=TWtwldLwBqA |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Nobody: 11:28am On Dec 15, 2013 |
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Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by seanet02: 11:42am On Dec 15, 2013 |
I cannot wesley is backing up his gibberish with a reference from the nation? is the nation now credible? |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 12:00pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
seanet02: I cannot wesley is backing up his gibberish with a reference from the nation?The nation covered a speech at a book launch. That's credible enough for me. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by seanet02: 12:03pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
wesley80: The nation covered a speech at a book launch. That's credible enough for me.but not credible enough when they criticized Jonathan for looking the other way when Odua bought 2 armoured cars with 250m? Can you please change your handle to HYPOCRITE? |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by wesley80(m): 12:08pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
seanet02:What speech were they covering then? |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by southsouthman: 12:31pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
shymexx: The man wrote a letter and asked a lot of questions many "Nigerians" are asking. However, rather than provide answers, you lot have resulted to cheap gimmicks and character assassination.. A message in a normal setting is not as important as the motive and how it is presented. The problem is the motive for leaking a private letter to the public and making unconfirmed stories as issues. If he meant well for the country, he would have done it differently. To call people at the helm of affairs dumbest tells u r not an objective person. This will distort ur analysis of issues. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by seanet02: 12:41pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
wesley80: What speech were they covering then?They were displaying genuine documents showing the recklessness, irresponsibility and and corruption ridden life of Jonathan |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by redsun(m): 12:54pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Until men Like obj are publicly executed in nigeria for crimes against humanity,nigerian will never tow the path of rationality. As long as they remain relevant,the suffering people will remain foo.lish and enslaved |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Abagworo(m): 1:00pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Whether by hook or by crook Obasanjo one of the greatest Nigerians if not the greatest. Biafra surrendered to him in 1970. He was the 1st military ruler to hand over to civilian in 1979 He was also the only civilian that has ever handed power to another civilian in Nigeria's history in 2007. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Pukkah: 1:03pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
shymexx: The man wrote a letter and asked a lot of questions many "Nigerians" are asking. However, rather than provide answers, you lot have resulted to cheap gimmicks and character assassination. Honestly, with this kind of useless thread, in spite of the far reaching issues contained in Obasanjo's letter, I feel like giving up on Nigerians. The man was specific in many parts of his letter. He cited instances and named names. Then all some people can do is to call him names and abuse him. I don't know what God put inside the heads of some people! Who cares about Obasanjo? We are talking about how to save the citizens! |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Pukkah: 1:08pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
southsouthman: . The problem is the motive for leaking a private letter to the public and making unconfirmed stories as issues. If he meant well for the country, he would have done it differently. To call people at the helm of affairs dumbest tells u r not an objective person. This will distort ur analysis of issues. So Obasanjo leaked the letter? Can you provide any proof for this. If you can't then you should apologize to Syhmexx for faulting his statement that the people at the helms of affairs are dumb. Nay, it is worse than that. The people they are ruling are even dumber than those at the helms. Amaechi was right about the connection between corruption and the indulgence of the people. Someone has brought up issues that some of us have discussed on this forum many times and you're there faulting his manner of delivery without ANY attempt to address ANY of the many issues he raised! What kind of country and citizens are these for God's sake! |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Pukkah: 1:10pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
wesley80: And what part of my post gave you the impression that I give a flying fork about what Shymmex cares? The man is a two faced lying General that will do anything and all things to achieve his goal including distorting facts as people know and witnessed. His antecedents are enough to throw whatever he wrote into the garbage bin. Your 'bumbling General' has zero credibility except in the eyes of his ethnic and political followers. Whatever he wrote is only fit for the garbage bin, no sentiments. Dump 'em all! Which real ethnic and political followers does Obasanjo have? You guys will go to any length to evade the issues in the letter! Anyway, Obasanjo himself probably had this in mind when he wrote:
Obasanjo is not done yet:
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Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by jmaine: 1:15pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
I did like OBJ to go further and provide cogent proofs about some of the baseless accusations he made in his purported self serving letter. We know why OBJ did that and we are not surprised. Let the political games continue . . . . 1 Like |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by 1wolex85: 1:28pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Used to think this wesley80 guy was a reasonable person. Its ok if you support gej, but the things some of you do to support him is absolutely ridiculous!!! How does this thread relate to the letter obj wrote? Lets assume gen isama's account of events is d correct one, what has it got to do with the letter? The biggest problem of this administration is not gej himself but the sycophants both internal and external who always make him feel he is doing the best that he can. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Pukkah: 1:35pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
jmaine: I did like OBJ to go further and provide cogent proofs about some of the baseless accusations he made in his purported self serving letter. Are you serious about this request? You still want Obasanjo to provide more evidence on the one term, his previous letters, water project for Port Harcourt, polarization of the country along ethnic and religious lines, insecurity, division of the Governors' Forum, Buruji Kashamu, politicization of the Police, inability to tame corruption, Bola Tinubu's visit to Jonathan, heavy oil theft, support for non-PDP candidates, kidnapping and armed robbery, increasing unemployment, threat of war by ethnic champions, the Olokola and Brass LNG, withholding of investment by IOCs, allegation of $7b, etc Did you read the letter at all? Some of the issues that Obasanjo was cautious to talk about are training of snipers, people under political watch list, etc. Short of telling him to come and run the government, Obasanjo has done his bit. The ball is now in Jonathan's court. As a piece of advice, these are testy times for the Presidency. It is better to keep quiet than come up with some watery, silly and hollow responses to Obasanjo's letter. So far, some of the inane and foolish responses to the letter have come from Reuben Abati, Tukur and APGA. Ignore the letter if you've got nothing of value to say. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by jmaine: 2:03pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Pukkah: I consider it absolute stupidity to advise me to ignore OBJ letter simply because you feel you have something better to say. Since you are OBJ mouth piece on this issue, i did like you to furnish us with tenable proofs about the following accusations OBJ made below. 1) Can you provide proof that GEJ with the indulgence of Al Mustafa is training an Abacha-esque Killer squad somewhere. 2) Also provide proof that GEJ decision to allow the electoral process reflect the wishes of the people in Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Edo and Anambra is largely due to an under hand deal between the Presidency and those politicians who won their elections. 3) The so called deal between Tinubu and GEJ that induced me and millions of other South westerners to thumb print for GEJ. I need straight point and point blank answers than the usual chatter folks like you deploy for simple queries. |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by jmaine: 2:11pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Am wondering the moral fibre OBJ has to write an obnoxious letter reeked with unfounded allegations just to score cheap points. We are not deceived by OBJ antics. 1 Like |
Re: How Obasanjo Lied His Way To Heroism by Pukkah: 2:17pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
jmaine: You're the one exhibiting legendary stupidity here. I can never be Obasanjo's mouthpiece. I'm not his fan. If you had read my post very well and carefully, you would have seen tha I divided the issues into two. For the issues I first listed, they really don't need any so called proofs, except from lazy minds or paid hacks. Go and read again. The second part which I said Obasanjo was cautious in talking about need more proofs. Again, read. In any case, all intelligent and discenring people can see that most of the issues raised need no further proofs. How come you ignored all of them and decided to hold on to issues that I had earlier said Obasanjo was cautious about? This is not a time for hairsplitting or back and forth or bringing up nebulous issues or opening silly threads. Many issues there don't need further proofs because they are self-evident or already have references. It is absolutely ridiculous, foolish and asinine to wave off all the contents of the letter on the altar of proofs, Obasanjo's intention or his personality. Currently, a lot of people feel very strongly about what's happening in Nigeria. I believe that Jonathan's supporters, paid and unpaid, should also for the fear of God show remorse, introspection and patriotism rather than continue to bury their heads in the sand. I'm not ready for any rubbish ping pong on this matter that's so clear to every reasonable person that's acting reasonably. |
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