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| Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Fynestboi: 8:37pm On Dec 20, 2013 |
Hello literati, undergraduates and learned Nairalanders It is my utmost delight to welcome you to this online debate on behalf of the Chief coordiators,cordinators organisers, and initiators. You are welcome to the elimination rounds in the ongoing Nairaland Interschool Debate. The stage is said to be survival of the fittest, you lose  you are out The competition on this thread will be between two intellectuals; UNN and KSU [size=28pt]UNN(supporting.) VS KSU(opposing.)[/size] [size=18pt]Topic: Topic: Corruption is a societal evil crippling our country Nigeria; who takes the most blame our leaders or the followers?[/size]. Date: 21ST December 2013. Time: 12pm-3pm prompt CHIEF COORDINATOR Olawalebabs Fynestboi Richiez COORDINATORS (mr and miss) BOAY ALICIA KEYS HONEYDEAR ABU MIKEY KESSY MISCALLENOUS ONWONDI AGROVICK WILL007 Cordinators Incharge: boay and aliciakeys Judges: Jaybee Caracta Time: 12pm-3pm No African time   Venue: Nairaland Education Section For more fixtures, click here Thread locked to be declared open 12:00pm on debate day. For extensive reading on history, planning, etc, and further discussion, pls click here: Nairaland interschool debate planing thread |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Fynestboi: 8:40pm On Dec 20, 2013 |
PROCEDURES 11:55 – Debaters and judges take seats, register presence, while schools post their school Anthem 12:00 – Coordinators declare the debate open 12:00pm – 12:20 - Debaters post their arguments. Within 15 minutes. Better if less than 750 words to make it easier for judges to read all, but no harm making it longer, but it must not exceed 850. 12:20 – 1:20pm - A debater takes on his opponent, attempts to puncture his opponent’s points. This a debater does by quoting, highlighting the area to puncture and countering it i.e regular way to reply on Nairaland. While this is going on the judges can take their time to go through the write ups by the debaters. And also Debaters respond to punctured areas in his earlier arguments. He may buttress further. At this time frame. 1:20 – 1:40pm – Judges post questions to debaters either based on what the debater has posted or just reasonable question within the theme. Judges should be specific as to who they are posting the questions to. E.g “Mr ...., could you expatiate what you meant by so so so? or ...., pls give examples of your claim that xxxx”. This is not compulsory. A judge that doesn’t have question to post to the debaters need not do so. 1:40 – 2:00pm – Debaters respond to questions raised by judges 2:00 – 2:20pm – 2 Questions will be entertained from the audience i.e viewers. This will be based on ‘fastest hand’. The coordinators will announce ‘audience, you may now ask your questions’. After the 2 questions have been posted, any other viewer-post will be hidden. NOTE: -The judges and audience can throw their questions without quotations but the contestants should answer with quotations and separated for each questions. 2:20 – 2:30 – Debaters respond to audience questions and concludes their arguments. Debaters who were not asked any questions can still conclude his/her arguments. 2:30 – 2:40 – Judges compile the scores and mail to coordinators: 2:40 – 3:00pmThread thrown open for regular Nairaland discussion. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Fynestboi: 8:49pm On Dec 20, 2013 |
RULES 1.) Two contestants representing their school in this Interschool Debate Elimination stage will have to confirm their availability for the debate a day before the debate proper. Failure to do so will result in the defaulter been disqualify and the opposing or supporting side that duely declare availabily will automatically be declare as the winner. 2.) The recommended font size is the default size (size 8.) and the colour is GREEN for the supporting side and BLUE for the opposing side. Please note that you are to use the designated colour all through the debate period. 3.) The essay should be min. 750 max. 1000 words . 4.) The use of SMS language and abbreviations are strictly forbidden. 5.) All materials used should be properly referenced at the end of the essay. 6.) All essays, responses and conclusion must be submitted within the stipulated time frame stated in the time schedule as posted by the coordinator |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Fynestboi: 8:49pm On Dec 20, 2013 |
JUDGING CRITERIA (5 marks each) 1. Presentation (opening, flow, closing, response to judges questions, audience questions and contestants rebuttals) 2. Logic of arguments 3. Strenght of facts, examples, cases. 4. Persuasiveness 5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Emmyk(m): 11:36am On Dec 21, 2013 |
Good day Mr. Chairman, erudite judges, the coordinators, accurate time keeper, distinguished audience. I am Emmanuel by name, representing Kogi State University, Anyigba in this debate on the topic which says; Corruption; A societal evil crippling our country Nigeria; our leaders take most blame rather than the followers. I will go straight to the business of the day. The global corruption watchdog, Transparency International, has ranked Nigeria as the 35th most corrupt nation in the world. The Corruption Perception Index December, 2012 released on Wednesday revealed that Nigeria scored 27 out of a maximum 100 marks to clinch the 139th position out of the 176 countries surveyed for the report. But then, what is corruption? Going by Merriam-Webster Dictionary, dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers) By Microsoft Encarta, Corruption is wrongdoing by those in a special position of trust. The term is commonly applied to self-benefiting conduct by public officials and others dedicated to public service. Corruption is a vice that is prevalent in Nigeria. The leaders are like a building’s foundation, while the followers are the structure of the house. We all have a part to play in fighting corruption. Our leaders in the legislative, executive and the judiciary arms contribute largely to this. One of which is: authorities habitually divert contracts to ‘their’companies; these companies do not even exist, and loot public funds to their private pocket. John YakubuYusufu of the Police Pension Office whose case was recently decided converted #1,364,285,419.95 to his personal use; all he could get was a six year jail term with an option of 750,000 naira fine. The legislative house constitutes so many numbers of committees which does not ensure that actual government spending is in line with that which was initially approved by the parliament. Who is to be blame for this? Civil societies have been advocating for an Independent Judiciary to tackle corruption but most times it fell to the deaf ear of those in the realm of power. As it is practiced in Nigeria, section 231and 271 of the 1999 constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria; the president and the governor of the 36 states wield enormous power to appoint the Chief Justice and judges in the 36 states respectively. How then can justice be done to corrupt officials when our legal system is still largely dependent on our executive? A situation whereby the government uses anti graft agency mainly to trail opposition is an evil. Like cases ought to be treated alike “I’m of the ruling party so immunity covers me against prosecution” shouldn’t be the case. Not only that, what about the freedom of information bill in Nigeria? What else is halting it from becoming an act? Corruption! If it passes to an act, it will not go down well with our leaders, be it at the Federal, state or local government ward. According to Jeremy Bentham “the greatest happiness of the greatest number of people should be the aim of a leader” Stella Oduah recently procured two bullet proof vehicles valued at 225milllion naira. How does these cars procurement benefit the masses? President Jonathan, in a media chats, as part of itineraries to mark the Nigeria’s 53rd independence anniversary. He vaguely opined that Nigeria’s problem is not corruption. This tells you how our leader sees corruption. A Nigerian political leader, Obafemi Awolowo raised a salient issue when he said, since independence, our governments have been a matter of few holding the cow for the strongest and most cunning to milk, under those circumstances everybody runs over everybody to make good at the expense of others. Mrs. Oby Ezekwesili, said some months back, “Even though the last one decade has witnessed an increase in our economic growth rate to an average of seven per cent per annum, regrettably, this has not resulted in poverty reduction. The poor governance or its more virulent manifestation; public corruption, is of course the fundamental reason for Nigeria’s poor economic performance despite our globally acknowledged economic potentials to have become not just one of the largest economies of the world, but in fact, one of the most prosperous of those countries. There is no better saying of the governance failure in our nation than the relatively unchanged structure of the economy of Nigeria since our independence; and it is the rapid change of the structure of an economy that determines the level of economic growth, development and prosperity that would happen. In our case, it has remained relatively unchanged. It is the same story of quite a whole number of the African countries.” There is a proverb in Yoruba which says “esin waju ni ti eyin nwo sare”. This literarily means a horse runs and is guided by the one ahead of it. It is not like the leaders are to be blame 100% but I can guarantee you, if they do the right thing, the followers will as well. Thank You. REFERENCES Wikiquote http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Corruption_in_Nigeria EFCC official facebook page http://www.thisdaylive.com /articles/ezekwesili- poor-governance-corruption- bane-of-nigeria-s-devt /162390/ http://dailyindependentnig.c om/2013/10/stella-oduah- as-jonathans-example/Punch - Nigeria is 35th most corrupt nation –TI Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 11:46am On Dec 21, 2013 |
NAME: Prince Justice SCHOOL: UNN TOPIC: Corruption is a societal evil crippling our country; who takes the most blame our leaders or the followers? Supporting that Followers should be blamed and not Leaders |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 11:47am On Dec 21, 2013 |
Chynazom UNN Supporting the motion that followers are to be blamed not leaders. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 12:01pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
My name is Promisechild, the chief speaker of the great citadel of learning (Kogi State University,Ayingba). The topic to debate on is: CORRUPTION IS A SOCIETAL EVIL CRIPPLING OUR COUNTRY NIGERIA: WHO TAKES THE MOST BLAME, LEADERS OR THE FOLLOWERS? I will support that the leaders take the most blame. First of all who is a Leader? A leader is a person who has a vision, a drive and a commitment to achieve that vision, and the skills to make it happen. What are the traits a leader exhibits? * Has integrity- People have to believe that you are pursuing your dream because it's the right thing to do, not just because you are ego driven. * Is a people person- Understands the differences that make people unique and is able to use those individual skills to achieve the goal. * Is positive- A leaderencourages and rewards people and makes you want to do it and do it right. A leader is not a negative person and does not waste time and effort telling everyone what they're doing wrong. *A leader leads by example. Ironically, the opposite is the case in my dear country Nigeria. The above traits are a fantasy in my country. The leaders are the ones encouraging corruption in all nooks and crannies of the country. They will tell you to beat drums is mere children's play the adult is to start echoes. Corruption has been the evil crippling our society which the leaders take the huge blame. When we are talking about leaders we are not talking about political office holder only. My Lecturer in school does usually make an expression, thus I quote "not all politicians are leaders and not all leaders are politicians". Nigeria as the giant of Africa has lost her respect in the global world due to her incessant criminal activities spearheaded by our leaders. Even though no country in the world is corrupt free. The pervasive and deep-rooted nature of corruption in Nigeria is indicated by the fact that in 1996, Transparency International (TI) ranked Nigeria as the 2nd most corrupt nation among the 54 nations surveyed (Morre, 1997). In 1998, Nigeria was again ranked the 2nd most corrupt nation out of the 85 countries polled by TI (Lipset and Lenz, 2000). In 2001, Nigeria was ranked 90 out of 91 countries pooled. By 2009, the Global Perception Index (CPI) by TI rated Nigeria 130th out of the 180 countries surveyed. For the year, 2010, Nigeria ranked 134th out of 178 countries assessed (Abiodun, 2012). In 2011, the TI, in its report on corruption perception, rated Nigeria as the 143 most corrupt nations out of the 183 countries surveyed (Business Day, 2012) . Indeed as Derin (2007) notes, Nigeria has been featuring prominently amongst the most corrupt nations of the world for the past thirty years. The effects and implications of the full scale corruption inNigeria‘s social, political and economic development are myriad. Corruption in Nigeria constitutes a serious barrier to effective resource mobilization and allocation as it diverts resources away from activities that are vital to poverty eradication, economic and sustainable development (Derin, 2007). As a matter of fact, corruption in Nigeria has resulted to a reduction in the quality and quantity of goods and services available to the public as reflected in poor infrastructures, poor quality of education, health care and transportation system. Some anti- graft agencies was introduced by the Nigerian government in order to monitor corruption in the country and to gain the trust of the people but we never knew these anti -graft bodies were set up to persecute the ordinary man in the street while leaving our kpletocratic leaders who stole billions of naira alone. If I may ask what have these bodies done to those specifically accused of maladministration and embezzlement of public funds? Specifically these governors were under trial for alleged corrupt practices and enrichment, among others include the following: NAME and STATE 1 Chimaroke, Nnamani Enugu 2 Gbenga Daniel Ogun 3 Alao Akala Oyo 4 Akwe Dorme Nasarawa 5 Bola Tinubu Lagos 6 Ikedi Ohakim Imo 7 Joshua Dariye Plateau 8 Saminu Turaki Jigawa 9 Jolly Tanko Nyame Taraba 10 Orji Uzor Kalu Abia 11 Peter Odili Rivers 12 Lucky Iginedion Edo Others that are being investigated by EFCC include Wamako Aliyu of Sokoto State, Ibrahim Idris of Kogi State, Timpriye Sylva of Bayelsa state, Boni Haruna of Adamawa state, Michael Botmang of plateau state, Rasheed Ladoja of Oyo state . Other high profile cases of corruption include the ones involving Professor Babalola Borishade and Femi-Fani Kayode, former Aviation minister, over the fraudulent handling of N19.5 billion Aviation International fund, Senator Iyabo Obasanjo Bello and former health minister, Adenike Grange, over misappropriation of N300 million meant for the ministry, where are their cases today? I guess! It has been thrown to the bush. They loot our money and take it to other countries while the people are suffering and having emaciated bones. The followers are now been forced to follow the foot step of their leaders because every part of country is full of corruption. Position in offices now depends on whom you know in government house or the money you can pay in order to be listed in the senator’s slot which has made merit to be sacrificed for flaw and crippling our societal values. With the above points I mentioned I am not trying to confuse you but to convince you that our leaders are responsible for the corruption crippling our country Nigeria. Thank You Reference Who is a leader - About.com Okinba launko- end of the war( poem) Business day newspaper http://www.ajol.info /index.php/afrrev/article /viewFile/80255/70515- Africa Research Review |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by boay(m): 12:02pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
All debaters are advised in their own interest to kindly read the rules, regulations and judging criteria again. Goodluck |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Fynestboi: 12:04pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
The debate is herely declare open.. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by boay(m): 12:05pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
UNN POST your argument... |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 12:14pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Good day chairman, coordinators, highly esteemed judges, co-debaters and my wonderful audience. It’s with great pleasure I am here today on this August event this December. Corruption is a societal evil crippling our country and I am here to let you know why the followers should take the most blame for this. Corruption is an impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle; it is also an inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery) – (Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary). Corruption an action to secretly provide a good or a service to a third party so that he or she can influence certain actions which benefit the corrupt, a third party, or both in which the corrupt agent has authority. Corruption is unarguably a societal evil which like cankerworm has eaten deep into the fabric of Nigeria. Its stench can be felt in every fibre of this fabric called Nigeria. The leaders are corrupt; the followers are more corrupt – yes! More corrupt; the polity is messed up. Nigeria is ranked 139th out of 176 countries in Transparency International's 2012 Corruption Perceptions Index, tied with Azerbaijan, Kenya, Nepal, and Pakistan. The followers are always quick to point accusing fingers and haul the stones of insults and curses at their leaders for being corrupt. But one thing they have failed to understand is that these leaders are an extension, a product of the followers (society); as nobody was born with any leadership position. The followers encourage and applaud corruption through their actions. The society has lost its moral voice – that’s the root of this ill (called corruption). Every leader in Nigeria was once a follower. Let’s take a look at what happens during elections: people always vote the person who throws money around the most; a situation where two people are campaigning for a position, one has a clear road map and plan of what he will do and offer the people if elected but gives no money or freebies or takeaways, while the other doesn’t really have a plan or road map of what he will do if elected but throws money around, gives freebies and takeaways, who do you think the people will elect? Your guess is as good as mine. Most these followers consciously and sub-consciously sell their franchise during election time and when it back fires, they start crying woe. The pressure the society mounts on any their family member (whether immediate or extended) who gets appointed or elected into office is enormous – as they start making outrageous demands, which in most cases “must” be met else s/he is in “Hot Soup”. Our leaders always (from the followers) pick the special assistants, special advisers, personal assistant etc. who always (for the sake of their selfish interest) give “terrible advice” and are sometime the initiating brain behind most corrupt activities of these leaders. When thieves who steal little stuffs like phones, laptop, little amount of money (less than a N100,000.00), food items, electronic gadgets etc. are caught, the mob pounce on them, stones are being hauled, wood, batons, rods , shoes and any other thing that can be used to cause bodily damage and in some cases they being burnt to death (or ashes if they wish) – although some members of this mob do far worse. But what happens when our leaders steal billions of naira? We (the followers) celebrate them, applaud them, give them titles, idolize them, and organize thanksgiving services for them in religious centres. A young man who just started a job and within six months or a year comes up with a car of N7 million to N15 million and you clap for him. The followers rather than hold their leaders accountable, cash into their (leaders) accounts (as beneficiaries). How many times have we Nigerians taken to the streets in protest, demanding the resignation or sack of an elected or appointed leader? When the issue of Stella Oduah and the bullet proof cars worth around N255 million came up, what did we (the followers) do? When Abubakar Kigo and five others indicted in the N32.8 billion Police Pension scam last year were granted bail and later went scot free, what did we (the followers) do? When former Military Dictators (that we all cried woe of how corrupt they were) who “removed their khaki and wore Agbada and Baban Riga” came seeking for our votes during elections, what did we (the followers) do? The followers carryout rigging activities during elections. We say the Police are a corrupt they always demand for bribe and I wonder who gives them the bribe in the first place? What about parents and students who bribe their way (or that of their kids) from JAMB all through to graduation. Tribalism is most prevalent among followers than among our leaders. Time will fail me to go on and on. But in conclusion: Our corrupt leaders are only a reflection of we the corrupt followers. Thank You! REFERENCES 1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption 2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Nigeria 3. Oyinola O.A., Corruption Eradication in Nigeria: An Appraisal, Library Philosophy and Practice (LPP) 4. How to Tackle Corruption Effectively in Nigeria, Sam Ejike Okoye www.gamji.com/article4000/NEWS4930.htm 5. The philosophy of Transforming Nigeria into a Corruption-free Society: Are the probes the Solution? Victor Dike, www.nigeriaworld.com/feature/article/corruption.html 6. www.nigeriafilms.com/news/23337/33/dont-blame-the-government-or-blaming-the-police-fo.html 2 Likes |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 12:16pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Good day everyone! Standing on all observed protocols. I’m delighted to be part of this online debate yet again. I am supporting the motion that followers are to blame for this societal evil crippling our country called Corruption. My chief debater has done well to intimate us on the definition of corruption, let me add that corruption is simply dishonesty for personal gain. (Encarta Dictionaries, 2009). The concept of corruption is mostly viewed as having to do with only bribery, but there is a lot more to that. It cuts across bribery, embezzlement, theft and fraud, extortion and blackmail, exam malpractices, inflation of contracts, etc. The old saying we are all familiar with says the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. You’d wander what this statement has got to do with the topic at hand, but how can I convince this honourable audience that we are to blame the followers for corruption in our society if I fail to remind you that we need to look at the small picture before considering the bigger ones. Before we start to screen our leaders of corruption ‘charges’, let’s stop for a moment and consider the ways of the followers. The followers are not invincible beings; they comprise the ordinary man on the streets who gives out wades of cash to get a wrong kind of ‘favour’, to the uniformed men on the roads, or the students who now find short cuts to pass exams, and even the apprentice boy/girl who steal money from their bosses. How about those involved in fraud, using deception to convince owners of funds and assets to release them, those who have taken to kidnapping. These are little shades of corruption that we sometimes overlook and hang the crime on the necks of our leaders. All these activities in combination disrupts our entire system, it makes for an ungovernable society. Let’s look at it this way; a good foundation is necessary for a building to stand long and strong. But a building laden with shaky foundation, cracks and holes if definitely on its way to crashing. I am of the opinion that we the followers, to a large extent make up the foundation of our nation. Now, if we paint this picture into that of followers versus leaders, we’d be convinced that corruption amongst the followers serves as cracks in the ‘building’ of our country. We are practically using our own hands to destroy what belongs to us. Doubt that? Let me ask this: have you ever imagined the kind of damage is done when some parents give their wards money to pay for special centres when they are about taking external exams like SSCE? If this 900 out of 1000 students taking the exams are supported by their own parents to engage in cheating, believe me a seed has already been sown in the hearts of these 900. They are made to believe that there is nothing actually wrong in cheating sometimes, this seed geminates and carried into the University and even further into life after school. You can imagine the rest of the scenario. Another thing we unconsciously do as a people that aids corruption is to idolize certain wrong achievement. Some people are not after the making process of a person and his/her achievement rather they are interested in the ‘show off’ even when the source of the show off is very visible. It’s an ugly truth that must be told; when people are celebrated in such way they develop certain pride and would definitely want to retain their status, they would believe that the best way to get rich is to look for money by all means at all cost so that the worship from the masses will keep pouring in. Thus, they continue in their ways or even steal more to upgrade the already acquired status. A society laden with members that engage in corrupt practices surely must have to purge itself first of the filth that accompanies corruption. We need to see a shift in followership mentality and develop sense of responsibility, toward our immediate families and environs. We also have to work on ourselves, the followers, before looking to the leaders to do so; the masses (followers) must be re-indoctrinated to the default status (be good, work hard, don't cheat). If we fail to look in the mirror, we will continue to point accusing fingers at our leaders while new crop of corrupt followers keep joining that elite league of leaders and taking us further down the path to national destruction. In my final words, change in issues regarding corruption is what we all crave for, it begins with you and I. Thanks! REFERENCES In Nigeria, we the followers are more corrupt than our leaders in http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by boay(m): 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Debaters can now begin to puncture opponents' arguments and respond to their punctured arguments. You have 1 hour for this. Thanks |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Emmyk(m): 12:33pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Quote from Chynazom " Let me ask this: have you ever imagined the kind of damage is done when some parents give their wards money to pay for special centres when they are about taking external exams like SSCE? If this 900 out of 1000 students taking the exams are supported by their own parents to engage in cheating, believe me a seed has already been sown in the hearts of these 900. They are made to believe that there is nothing actually wrong in cheating sometimes, this seed geminates and carried into the University and even further into life after school." I am sure you are conversant with the popular saying that "It's condition that made crayfish Bend". This is exactly the picture of what we have here. Though I quite agree with you on this, but look at the teachers in Nigerian institute, majority of them are mare educated illiterates. Was it not on live TV the other day, that Governor of Edo state was asking a woman to read her very own credential, but she could not. Now, take a picture of that "teacher", into classroom, What can she offer the students? Nothing! Her head is empty equally!. So, it is this kind of condition that happens, which leads to all the exam runz, like you said above. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
[/quote]When we are talking about leaders we are not Promise child.If we are not talking about political office holders ONLY, I guess you are saying that leaders exist in all spheres of the society. If you admit this, how can we then justify the exemption of political office holders from corruption 'charges'?? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
promisechild: Position in offices now depends on whom you know in government house I will Like to ask; who are those giving this Money (bribe)? The followers right? If followers stop giving bribe, leaders will stop asking. The desire to cut corners, make it quick and fast without sweat, always lead to followers offering bribe and without being asked for it |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 12:42pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Prince Justice:if the leaders didn't ask they wouldn't have given it to them. Everybody wants to live a comfortable live but your leaders are making life hard for the ordinary man |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Emmyk: Quote from Chynazom " Let me ask this: have you ever imagined the kind of damage is done when some parents give their wards money to pay for special centres when they are about taking external exams like SSCE? If this 900 out of 1000 students taking the exams are supported by their own parents to engage in cheating, believe me a seed has already been sown in the hearts of these 900. They are made to believe that there is nothing actually wrong in cheating sometimes, this seed geminates and carried into the University and even further into life after school." EmmyK, does this justify the fact that students should employ any means possible to cheat during exams?? Whatever happened to studying hard for exams?? This thing goes on in circles, we have students who don't read to pass exams, if they end up becoming teachers, what will they have to offer their students?? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
How many times have we Nigerians taken to the streets in protest, demanding the resignation or sack of an elected or appointed leader? When the issue of Stella Oduah and the bullet proof cars worth around N255 million came up, what did we (the followers) do? When Abubakar Kigo and five others indicted in the N32.8 billion Police Pension scam last year were granted bail and later went scot free, what did we (the followers)are you trying to say there wasn't any protest against it ? then tell me what happened to those protest? @ prince justice |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Emmyk(m): 12:45pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Chynazom, I thinking you should be puncturing my points, as I am the second speaker. Thanks.  |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 12:46pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
promisechild: if the leaders didn't ask they wouldn't have given it to them. Everybody wants to live a comfortable live but your leaders are making life hard for the ordinary manThat's it! And that's why we (followers) always seek for the fastest way to achieve this without stress! The LEADERS ask because the FOLLOWERS are willing to give! |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 12:50pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Prince Justice:are the followers in charge of the jobs? Each time we followers stand to know every details from leaders we get threatened by d SSS and police. Cite El rufai as an example. He explained govt funding how it is spent daily. All he got was detention by SSS |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 12:51pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Emmyk:So, if the leaders refuse to do the right thing we continue in our own wrong doings? We sit back and wait for them to take the first step while we go ahead in our little acts of corruption... I doubt how nice an idea this is. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
promisechild: How many times have we Nigerians taken to the streets in protest, demanding the resignation or sack of an elected or appointed leader? When the issue of Stella Oduah and the bullet proof cars worth around N255 million came up, what did we (the followers) do? When Abubakar Kigo and five others indicted in the N32.8 billion Police Pension scam last year were granted bail and later went scot free, what did we (the followers)are you trying to say there wasn't any protest against it ? then tell me what happened to those protest? @ prince justiceI many times have they (followers) taken to the streets in protest for the resignation, removal or sack of an elected or appointed public officer that's been found wanting in corruption related offence? HOW MANY CAN YOU REMEMBER? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 12:57pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
what about the protest carried out by the likes of Dino melaye, fani fakayo ?@prince justice what happened to [/those ? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Emmyk(m): 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
chynazom:Due to process needs to be followed to punish offenders but our anti-graft agencies are indirectly controlled by the government and also, you cannot punish a leader until he vacates the glorious seat. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 12:59pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
promisechild: [color=blue] are the followers in charge of the jobs? Each time we followers stand to know every details from leaders we get threatened by d SSS and police. Cite El rufai as an example. He explained govt funding how it is spent daily. All he got was detention by SSSAnd this Police and SSS are they under the categories of Leaders or Followers? [/color] |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by Emmyk(m): 1:02pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
As regards bad roads in Nigeria, if you keep blaming the followers don't you think the leaders will only continue in their acts? Trust me, they will be assured we the followers are confused individuals. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by chynazom(f): 1:03pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Emmyk:Birds of the same feather flock together they say. These people appointed into the positions are definitely average Nigerians like you and I. They( the corrupt leaders) will naturally pick those singing the same song with them so there wont be clashes. If we have 100% honest people likely to become judges and Chief Justices, do you not think this issue you raised can be curbed? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by PrinceJustice(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
promisechild: what about the protest carried out by the likes of Dino melaye, fani fakayo ?And how many people showed up for those protests? Take your mind back to the OCCUPY NIGERIA protest in January 2012, can you remember how the followers came out in their numbers? What was the result? They came out in their numbers because they were not comfortable with the removal of the subsidy! |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:::Winner:: UNN by promisechild(m): 1:07pm On Dec 21, 2013 |
Prince Justice:the police and SSS they are under which arm of government ? Hope you haven't forgotten that your president is the GFRC |
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