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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Ayatullah(m): 11:14pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
kimco: You are on the same level of faith with PAGAN 9JA. The God of Israel you chose also demanded blood according to your bible......have you forgotten that Jesus blood was shed? So where is the difference. The only True God is ALLAH who need no blood from you for your salvation. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jes7: 11:16pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
What is the point fighting vehemently about something that Christ said nothing about and yet on a daily bases ignore or flagrantly disobey the ones he commands? 2 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 12:55am On Dec 25, 2013 |
JustCurious: It is a shame that a huge lot of 'us' on nairaland, don't know how to bridle our tongue, anymore. We allow the devil to speak through 'us' at will..causing more grief to the body of Christ. We backbite, gossip, pull down, castigate...and then go to church every sunday to ask for forgiveness? Where is the Christlike love in us? Where is the brotherly love and expression? We're always SO quick to hear, QUICK to speak...good but he must learn to make his opinion his own opinion ,respect and don't categorise or inflict ur views on others. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:04am On Dec 25, 2013 |
yormite: who in ur family has half of what pastor Kumuyi or deeperlifers has yet d man is humble and Godly with an heavenly hope smh for uonly God knows who is humble oooooooo,abeg |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:08am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Omadachi: What I expect from the educated ones on this platform on issues like this is to carry out a research on Pastor W.F Kumuyi's claim before coming here to throw insult..With google,a lot of information can be gotten.Must we accept everything to be right becos it has been from the beginning?and what about easter,cos he never told us 2 do dis and me and u do,abi u don do dat one 2 ? 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:13am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Ayatullah:tell us d date den. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:15am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Kamsy10:but he mentioned all christians now or only DL are christians again ? Lol |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:20am On Dec 25, 2013 |
jlounge: I think the thread stems from an address made to DL. Now if you are not of DL why are you bothered? Enlightenment affords everyone the liberty of choice. You have yours and they have theirs.then he shouldn't have called other christians,or did he mean that only DL are christians ?,lol. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:23am On Dec 25, 2013 |
honeydrop91: Can you imagine human beings insulting an annointed man of God all in a bid to prove ur point. Whateva d man sed wz based on his research,has he come to ur housew 2 carry d pot of xmas rice away 4rm your cooker? How dare you Insult him? Some pple r refering to his son's wedding? Abeg,una tear the part of the bible wey talk say "the sins of the son shuld not be visited on the father comot 4 ur bible? Especially a very grown up child who is at a marriageable age. By insulting him,u av gone contrary to the commandments of God,shuld we now call God a bad father for creating people like you. Some of you even sed deeper lifers are poor,abeg jst gimme one instance in which you got an envelope from deeper life asking you for a dime of your money for anything? D kind of money members have in dat church,ur dreams neva even catch am. So pls,get off your high horse of judgement and free the man. Dat wz his opinion and we all av a right to ours buh drop the insults pls,stop inviting curses on you head by runnin ur mouth anyhow.oint of correction,nobody insulted anyone,no one said anyone is poor,d fact dat he is saying every and all christians are wrong is just laughable and he never buttress it rather it is his member dat are stressing themselves to prove a point that dey don't have cos u can't give wat u don't have. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:25am On Dec 25, 2013 |
rabzy:point of correction,paganism is not a religion but a way of life for pple who don't v one before coming of christ so they live life like dat without knowing,get dat into ur skull. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:31am On Dec 25, 2013 |
rabzy: This is what Origen said, one of the early xtians about 200 years after christ died.et start with u now,curse d day u are born now,lead first and other mumu like u would follow. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:32am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Maximus85: This is why I Love being a Jehovah's Witness. Though we made some wrong calculations in the past, we publicly admitted it cos we believe that the light of the truth is shining ever brighter.oga,abeg don't talk cos ur own is ....... |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:35am On Dec 25, 2013 |
seunlayi: [size=18pt]@ OP, what do you have to gain from extracting just the issue of xmas from that message as preached by the GS, we know people like you that joined the congregation just to criticize rather than benefit from that powerful revival message.[/size]we gained nothing but saying 'christians' make d whole thing worldwide.understood ? Or need more clearification? |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:38am On Dec 25, 2013 |
chiwuike20:and give ma a scrioture dat says 'Do not Celebrate CHRIST'? 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:42am On Dec 25, 2013 |
JustCurious:a clown can be of any age,point of correction,as long as he makes anyone to laugh,Bill cosby,Ali Baba are a examples,sorry oooooo these pple are sinners cos DL are d only saint in the worls.lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:48am On Dec 25, 2013 |
dameastra: Its really sad d way pple critise odas. A man of GOD for dt mata.. Even if he is fake or not, As long as he stands up as an intermediary btw man and GOD.. He shud be respected.. Wat happened to every one is entitled to dre own opinion.. Its either u follow or u don't. Nobody forces u to take heed.. U don't need to lambast or call him names. It all depends on your understanding... Is it wen u throw parties n all dt u celebrate?? Wat happens to a complete family avin a tym out in periods like ds. N if u say deeper life members r poor, its because u r being delusional n u can't see beyond ur nose.. Comments shud be tot abt b4 bin posted.. Its very neccessaryand words thought of B4 saying cos it might. Lead pple astray,cause tension,make pple less secure,confuse a lot and d ultimate,make less of d religion,point taking ? Or u wanna argue more. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:51am On Dec 25, 2013 |
orakporemmanuel: 63-1216 WE.HAVE.SEEN.HIS.STAR.AND.HAVE.COME.TO.WORSHIP.HIM_ TUCSON.AZ V-13 N-8 MONDAY_arrant rubbish,I doubt if u pass thru d four corners of a good school. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 1:53am On Dec 25, 2013 |
DoctorStephen: Jesus Christ never preached Christmas nor did the apostles He appointed.I love ur comment but sorry,it doesn't affect d issue @ hand,pls next time,no how to address issues,it is called manner of approach and I doubt if u have 1. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 2:03am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Ayatullah:my friend,so ur own muhammed that a tree cries cos he refuses to speak 2 it is d one abi ? Science neva agree dat one or marrying 2yrs old is one,or fighting for a God that can destroy humans in seconds ? Or promised 200 wifes in heaven,wey u neva know where u go enter and these women go be virgin abi,iyawo sara in heaven,so una God no dey respect but dehumanize women,I laugh in swahili,lol. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by sokarsenal(m): 2:51am On Dec 25, 2013 |
tpacalipse: Me I know who I celebrate, and He is God. Your opinion ain't matter to me on this. So, shove the hell it!religion and its many 'wahala'.....you know who you are supporting and it's God.....did Jesus christ tell you to celebrate him.....or if no be 'eye service' you dey do, why did Jesus not celebrate it himself or encourage his discipline to celebrate it |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by sokarsenal(m): 3:06am On Dec 25, 2013 |
freda506: Yeah! Watching t.v and driving cars can also not be found in Acts of apostleswatching tvs and driving cars are not 'core' religious observations....are they?...........even Jesus told his disciples to do the last supper (aka holy communion) in rememberance of him......if him want una to celebrate him birthday, why didnt he say it or celebrate it himself while he was on earth.......human beings and 'aproko' 2 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by sokarsenal(m): 3:07am On Dec 25, 2013 |
freda506: Yeah! Watching t.v and driving cars can also not be found in Acts of apostleswatching tvs and driving cars are not 'core' religious observations....are they?...........even Jesus told his disciples to do the last supper (aka holy communion) in rememberance of him......if him want una to celebrate him birthday, why didnt he say it or celebrate it himself while he was on earth.......some human beings and 'aproko' |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by sokarsenal(m): 3:18am On Dec 25, 2013 |
engineerd: SO by extension celebrating EASTER is Idolatrous? You might give scriptural references to back EASTER, BUT it seems SADISTIC to only celebrate the death and not life of one of the DIVINITIES of GOD.i am not a christian....buteven me have seem somewhere in your bible that says 'do this in remembrance of me'......that was Jesus talking about the last supper communion before his death (hence easter).....even we FREE THINKERS read the bible more |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ekemit(m): 3:54am On Dec 25, 2013 |
“Arise, GO UP to Bethel and dwell there”. Gen 35:1 In Bethel, idolatry and its practices and festivals are forgotten, In Bethel, following the ways of the World is halted; In Bethel, there is RENEWAL of fellowship with God and the REBUILDING of the altar of consecration and commitment to the service of God; In Bethel, there is REVIVAL of holiness and RIGHTEOUSNESS; In Bethel, there is REVELATION and CLARITY of the Will and Purpose of God for our lives; In Bethel, there is RESTORATION to the first love; In going up to Bethel, WE DROP the property of the devil that we have carried along with us in the journey of life; In Bethel, there is HOLINESS, righteousness and REAL PURITY of heart and life; In Bethel, ALL SELF IS GONE and CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL; In Bethel, all deception, diplomacy and struggling for the vain things of life are eradicated. As we gradually move on to the end of this year, it is time for STOCKTAKING and time to listen to our Maker as He clearly SPEAKS and COMMANDS us to “ARISE, GO UP TO BETHEL AND DWELL THERE”. DON’T just pass by Bethel, DWELL THERE! DON’T just talk about it, DWELL THERE! DON’T just pray about it, but DWELL THERE! DON’T just desire it, just arise, GO UP and DWELL THERE until HIS DEW falls on your thirsty soul and HIS FIRE descends to consume all worldly passions and give way to preparedness for the Coming of the Lord. I pray the Lord will give you the GRACE AND STRENGTH TO ARISE FROM TODAY and GO UP TO BETHEL and DWELL THERE |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by haykins01(m): 5:34am On Dec 25, 2013 |
if una like make una para from now till tomarow all i have to say is this
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 5:50am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Acidosis: Damn you need to grow the fffucked up! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by MyDesire01: 5:56am On Dec 25, 2013 |
But do we really know what we celebrate in the name of christmas? Below is a food for thought as u go about singing "Merry christmas" The Christmas Challenge · Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly. For millennia, pagans, Christians, and even Jews have been swept away in the season’s festivities, and very few people ever pause to consider the celebration’s intrinsic meaning, history, or origins. · Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue mankind from the “curse of the Torah.” It is a 24-hour declaration that Judaism is no longer valid. · Christmas is a lie. There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25th . · December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and murdered. · Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees, mistletoe, Christmas presents, and Santa Claus – are modern incarnations of the most depraved pagan rituals ever practiced on earth. Many who are excitedly preparing for their Christmas celebrations would prefer not knowing about the holiday’s real significance. If they do know the history, they often object that their celebration has nothing to do with the holiday’s monstrous history and meaning. “We are just having fun.” Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday. Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices. Imagine that on that day, Jews were historically subject to perverse tortures and abuse, and that this continued for centuries. Now, imagine that your great-great-great- grandchildren were about to celebrate Hitlerday. April 20th arrived. They had long forgotten about Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. They had never heard of gas chambers or death marches. They had purchased champagne and caviar, and were about to begin the party, when someone reminded them of the day’s real history and their ancestors’ agony. Imagine that they initially objected, “We aren’t celebrating the Holocaust; we’re just having a little Hitlerday party.” If you could travel forward in time and meet them; if you could say a few words to them, what would you advise them to do on Hitlerday? On December 25, 1941, Julius Streicher, one of the most vicious of Hitler’s assistants, celebrated Christmas by penning the following editorial in his rabidly Antisemitic newspaper, Der Stuermer: If one really wants to put an end to the continued prospering of this curse from heaven that is the Jewish blood, there is only one way to do it: to eradicate this people, this Satan’s son, root and branch. It was an appropriate thought for the day. This Christmas, how will we celebrate? |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by newspapers: 6:14am On Dec 25, 2013 |
Pastor W.F Kumuyi, The General Overseer of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, issued a warning to members of his church against celebrating Christmas, saying the annual celebration of Christmas is idolatrous and unscriptural. Kumuyi warned that partaking in the celebration made Christians to go back from the commandment of Jesus Christ. He said, “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol. Never! We always say it is the December retreat. We are only gathering together because it is the holiday period and love the Lord more, and rededicate ourselves more. “When you find anybody coming in, or any leader, trying to introduce the idolatry of mystery Babylon, that they call Christmas and you want to bring all the Christmas carol saying that is the day that Jesus was born, and you don’t find that in the Acts of the Apostles or in the early church, then you don’t find that in the church either. If you don’t know that before, now you know.” He warned that any of the church’s leaders that tried to introduce the “idolatry of Christmas” into any section of the church would be sanctioned, while also encouraging other believers in Christ to jettison the celebration as part of their sacrifice to perfection. http://www.naijareport.com.ng/christmas-idolatry-pastor-kumuyi-celebrating-xmas/ IM |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ericgold(m): 7:29am On Dec 25, 2013 |
donodion:I don't really know why people are just so blind to see the truth here,am not a fan of kumuyi but I do share the fact that xmas is unscriptural. A constitution narate the rules and regulation governing a society right? Why the bible guide us christains and if dt is true where have you seen jesus while on earth,tht he celebrated his Bday okay if u say that maybe it just to celebrate him,what about after his death? Did his disciples celebrated his bday Tell me if u see anywhere in the bible that says Jesus or his disciples celebrated his bday? Me too want to learn and knw....jesus said celebrate my death not my birth,the only feast he instituted was the feast of passover I.e the lords supper(check matt 26:26-29).and its every first day of the week he says we shud remember HIM..but ur so called pastor dis days don't knw dt,they only preach what will enrich dem financially and otherwise... Be warned for God is not mocked. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ericgold(m): 7:43am On Dec 25, 2013 |
john107: D problem most pple have with Christmas is with d date nd nt becos they couldn't find d word 'christmas' in d bible or where it was commanded. Afterall d word 'bible' is nt in d bible, and we celebrate easter even though its nt commanded, so dats nt d issue at all. Is it wrong to celebrate christmas? Is it idolatrous to sing 'Joy to d world, the Lord is come, let earth receive her king'? No. Its a thing of joy. The angels proclaimed d gud news to d shepherds. Even wisemen came from afar bringing gifts to pay him homage. So its perfectly right to celebrate christmas. GKS celebrate theirs in October, while others celebrate it in early January. D only issue pple have here is d date which shouldn't be a problem at all. D date might have used by pagans to worship dia gods. Bt d truth is dat good will always prevail over evil. Darkness is nt d opposite of light but rather d absence of light. When there is no light, darkness prevails. Christ is the Light. He is the conqueror. He conquered sin and death had no power over Him. The pagan sungod can NEVER overshadow d joy of Christmas. (Make we no give them level). So therefore, come all ye faithful, joyful and triumphant, come and behold Him, come let us adore Him for He is Christ the Lord, who was born to set us free!first of all am not a kumuyi member or neither am I an hausa man, secondly I don't celebrate easter,cos jesus did not as us to and again it not just the date in d aspect of xmas,so u want to tell me dt JESUS while on earth did not knw wen he was born and easily put the date in the bible,u said the word bible is not even in the bible and I find that really funny,ok lemme me ask u a quick question have u send the word novel inside a novel?? Read the d the new testament to knw wat christ wants from us as his children. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kennyamusan(m): 7:45am On Dec 25, 2013 |
My-Desire01:because pple drinks,danced and wine in april means I shld not celeb8 my birthday ? Celebration means a lot 2 different pple,To some,it Is party but who am I to condemn ,I am not God,and who told u pple don't party in easter period. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Soloter(m): 7:46am On Dec 25, 2013 |
icankel: I for comment if sey I no get deeper life member wey me n am dey rival one babeEven among the twelve that it took Jesus a whole night vigil to select, there was a thief and suicider. why can't you save your life by repenting and surrendering to the Lordship of Jesus? Only then will you bear the fruits of righteousness. |
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