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hopefully, you now see why i said that they are not saved and their Mo was not assured of salvation. What you called aimless link is an online koran.

Sahih International
Or do they say, "He has invented it?" Say, "If I have invented it, you will not possess for me [the power of protection] from Allah at all. He is most knowing of that in which you are involved. Sufficient is He as Witness between me and you, and He is the Forgiving the Merciful."
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Sahih International
Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

those are Mo's words from the koran, not just some vision in some hadith.

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And who says i'm not or have not? You like most atheists are just shooting blanks running from pillar to post. Do you have any one important thing to say, or yet another question pulled out of the pocket?

mazaje:

You have failed to show me where it i written that he will not be saved. . .He says he doesn't know what will be done with him or them. . .The passage doesn't mention after life, doesn't mention anything. . .Its possible he was talking about a situation that is different from what you want me to believe. . .Where does it state in the koran that he is not sure of going into paradise?. . .SHOW ME!!

peterphd:

Firing blanks? Naa, I'm not a Chelsea striker.You haven't answered how you know yahweh is God and The Flying Spaghetti Monster (PBUH), alusi, alekwu, olodumare are "gods".So its like you're the one doing a Torres here until you answer the question.

PS: please when you tell us how you know, tell us why yahweh created the gods.

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i alrady did, you said they are christian apologists. i'm not interested in copy and paste or reinventing the wheel as it were, the link is still there. i guess this is your new fixation.

mazaje:

You did no such thing. . .This is what you posted from the koran. . .

Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

This lacks details. . .It does not mention the afterlife, does not mention paradies, does not mention anything. . .He could be talking about anything. . .I do not know what will be done with me or you where?. . .On what issue?. . .

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Deu 4:28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

most gods are the works of men. i know God is God for many reasons, one is because He is true and has saved me.

mazaje:

You did no such thing. . .This is what you posted from the koran. . .

Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

This lacks details. . .It does not mention the afterlife, does not mention paradies, does not mention anything. . .He could be talking about anything. . .I do not know what will be done with me or you where?. . .On what issue?. . .

peterphd:

Bro, but allah has also saved many people too and allah is also true.The bible and isn't the oldest book and Hebrew isn't the oldest language.Those that used older languages had gods they worshipped so tell me how yahweh isn't a Jewish concept.Read your bible, Moses' trick from "God" of turning a stick to serpent was matched by the Egyptians and their Gods...so much for how real yahweh is and the Egyptian gods aren't.

mazaje:

Sure, he is presently in paradise with Allah. . .The hadith says so. . .He was taken into paradise on the back of a winged horse from the al'aqsar mosque. . .He was saved from the fires of hell to which you will go into for not accepting islam as the true path. . .

mazaje:

Sure, he is presently in paradise with Allah. . .The hadith says so. . .He was taken into paradise on the back of a winged horse from the al'aqsar mosque. . .He was saved from the fires of hell to which you will go into for not accepting islam as the true path. . .

Alexk2: I dont think angry is the correct word, bro....itz 'pity' d fellow.
talking from experience, i pity whoever think/blv there is no God.
how can u watch the intelligent design of the earth and all itz skies, the plants and man and still think there is no intelligent brain(God) behind all that...'a fool say to themselves, there is no God' psalm 14:1...

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Google is still free in case you cannot read a koran. Try
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090830185320AAtaIxt

also, try http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/muhammad_salvation.html

That is just to start with. You can do your research. What makes a believer not corrupt as an unbeliever is that the blood of Jesus has washed him and made him a new man. Its like formatting a corrupt file, or using an antivirus.

Atigba: i intend asking the same question,there is a colleague of mine who doesnt believe in God, majority of people in my office hate him for that but he is nice.He is the most truthful and sincere person i have ever come across in my life..All the religions people in my office steal government money he is the only one that believed in doing the right thing i love him for that.

vizkiz: Only a FOOL wuld look in2 d heavens n say there is no God...Only MAD MAN wuld look in2 d sea n say dt d fishes are a mistake...even d babalawo can testify that there is only one Jehovah. So who r u 2 tell me dt my God no dey exist?

Mzsolex: now it's obvious you've lost it... Where on this forum did i ever say there's no Zeus, I don't know dat thing I don't wan't to and I don't give a f.uck about it existence.

Y'all just frustrated mofo's. #peacez

weed-taker:
Because they want you to know that they are truly worshiping God and not that native doctor that you think they are worshiping.

peterphd:
Same way olodumare is universal.he created the world.just ask macof

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No, He's not Jewish or any tribe. He is Lord of heaven and earth.

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No contradiction. There is one God and many gods. Beside God, there is no other God. Would be stunning if you understand this line.

macof:

Goodness is of the heart(not literal), The most religious Christians are horrible hypocrites who are far from what they preach.

Mzsolex: enforced you say?, if 1/4 of these things are enforced you think you'll still be who you are now... Ofcourse there's freewill, reason why a xtrian won't force xtianity down ur throat(that is not thesame 4 a particular religion). @homosexuallity, ]b]even a Sango worshipper will frown at that one.[/b] It has a lot 2 do wit morality than wit religion. Lemme ask you this question, can you hold down a human and slit his throat?

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Dunno about allah saving anybody. i'm told(even by mazaje) that muslims simply do not know if they are saved. It is left for allah to decide at the end whether they will be saved or not. That end has not come.
The older language folks are not atheists, what is your point?Can atheists perform Moses' tricks whatever that is?

macof:
True
Olodumare is the Great Creator above All Gods- others are his heavenly children including Yahweh

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John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

mazaje:

Another contradiction in the bible , eh?. . .

Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

From there is no god but me to i am the god of gods or the best of the gods. . .

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Who is this Jewish god? If you're referring to Jehovah, He is the Lord and Creator of all. BTW, have atheists stopped doubting the existence of a creator or wetin be "you say". i don't know who is olodumare. i would not be surprised though if it is yet another of Jehovah's names. In that case, He created all things.

peterphd:

True only to yoruba history and literature same for the bible (Jewish literature)

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Dunno about allah saving anybody. i'm told(even by mazaje) that muslims simply do not know if they are saved. It is left for allah to decide at the end whether they will be saved or not. That end has not come.
The older language folks are not atheists, what is your point?Can atheists perform Moses' tricks whatever that is?

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Deu 4:28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

most gods are the works of men. i know God is God for many reasons, one is because He is true and has saved me.