PocketEconomist: you may be right, but from my experience, the chinese co operate, the indians/pakis co operate, but the Nigerians? I don't go near, they are nothing but trouble, always trying to show off and prove they've arrived. Smh, inferiority complex. I have more hispanic/asian/white friends than Nigerians/black and to be truthful, i feel more comfortable this way.

tensor77:
But truly slavery can no longer be held as an excuse. I don't know of any serious intellectual in America uses that as an excuse. We shouldn't get things twisted and be very honest. Forget about the extreme views of posters like Cap28.
The single cause of the challenges in black America is neither racism or slavery but the breakdown of the family unit.

dasparrow: @Post

I lived in England briefly as a young child but have lived in America for quite a long time as an adult. I am not sure whether US or UK is more racist. Personally, I think that both countries are equally racist but go about racism in different ways. I know for a fact that USA is a very racist country. My goodness! The racism there can make one loose it if one is not careful.

@Cap28

Happy new year and I enjoyed reading your contributions on this thread and agree 100& with your point of view as always. Keep up the good work!

boss1310: my answer is also a question.can a black man be a prime minister in uk

tensor77:
But truly slavery can no longer be held as an excuse. I don't know of any serious intellectual in America uses that as an excuse. We shouldn't get things twisted and be very honest. Forget about the extreme views of posters like Cap28.
The single cause of the challenges in black America is neither racism or slavery but the breakdown of the family unit.

checkdate: honestly,i have not been in any of those countries before.

sethken:


And you seriously don't believe that slavery and systematic subjugation has a hand in the breakdown of the AA family? I believe it does. Whites in America post slavery, employed and continue to employ to this day, systematic policies designed to perpetually subjugate and keep especially African American males economically subordinate to their White male counterparts. The election of Barack Obama has not made things better, it has deepened the divide between Whites and Blacks. Whites understand that when you empower the man economically, you empower the society. Empowerment of the Black man carries along with it familial stability, and the overall growth of the black family. The White man understood this from slavery, and continue to understand this to date. The White man in America is also afraid of reprisal from the wrongs of the past. So, it is better to keep the Black man where he is, so that he will not lash out. Economic despondency in most Black communities brings about infighting among Blacks, in other words, divide and conquer. The Black man in America is his own worst enemy. The White man sees a bit of the lashing out in Obama's affordable health insurance act. Most Whites believe that Obamacare Care is a social welfare program designed to favor Blacks at the expense of the tax paying Whites. Most Whites are miffed at the election of Obama, a bi-racial man who is sympathetic to the Black struggle. Remember, Mitt Romney, received 61% of the White votes to Obama's 39%, so go figure.

otokx: [s]There is no place like Africa, our own dear native land.[/s]

sethken:
And you seriously don't believe that slavery and systematic subjugation has a hand in the breakdown of the AA family? I believe it does. Whites in America post slavery, employed and continue to employ to this day, systematic policies designed to perpetually subjugate and keep especially African American males economically subordinate to their White male counterparts. The election of Barack Obama has not made things better, it has deepened the divide between Whites and Blacks. Whites understand that when you empower the man economically, you empower the society. Empowerment of the Black man carries along with it familial stability, and the overall growth of the black family. The White man understood this from slavery, and continue to understand this to date. The White man in America is also afraid of reprisal from the wrongs of the past. So, it is better to keep the Black man where he is, so that he will not lash out. Economic despondency in most Black communities brings about infighting among Blacks, in other words, divide and conquer. The Black man in America is his own worst enemy.

cap28:
Tensor what is your understanding of the word "legacy".
the dictionary defines legacy as anything handed down from the past, as from an ancestor or predecessor for eg: the legacy of ancient Rome.
Wealth can be handed down to future generations and poverty, ignorance, illiteracy and backwardness can also be handed down - now if your ancestors were discriminated against, banned from educating themselves by law, banned from owning land by law, banned from setting up businesses by law, banned from voting in order to change their situation by law, what kind of legacy do you think you would inherit from such ancestors?

shine12:
Also a black child can easily end up not going to the University if He/She's parent does not have enough money in the US (Imagine how can being able to afford a University education depends on you being able to jump high like a chimpanzee and dunk a basketball that 99.9% of the fellow spectators are white any ways, this is modern day gladiators man), in UK you are guaranteed a government loan if you are a citizen and all you need is your grade.
Also, I know loads of black people in the UK doing really great and making a difference.
People will always be racist,so as Nigerians and the last time I listened to some Nigerian parents, they confessed how they will never allow their kids to marry people from a particular part of the country or the world.

Nelly Ghenghen: Here we go again! black man with s.tupid talks on racism. really who is more racist than Africans? would we allow a white man to be the president of Nigeria? Can we allow a white man/woman to be a minister or a senator in Nigeria? or even local govt chairman?? Can a white person win MBGN? most times you even hear stuff like "she's too light skinned, she shouldn't win MBGN, she doesn't rep Africa".

Few months back your coach told someone to go back to belgium "white dude" and it was okay, if reverse was the case you'll see all black people crying offence.

We Africans are racists too, the only thing is other races don't give us the opportunity to shi.t them.

Mr Knowitall:

lol I guess you got me this time. We shall meet again... am using my phone browse thats why.

tensor77:
Well my issue with you is that you hold on to this idea of perpetual victimhood. I believe that the African Americans have been able to overcome this legacy of slavery even if some of their adversaries don't stop reminding them of it. Playing the victim card leads nowhere.
We have had the Martin Luther King civil rights movement which led to the ending of segregation, we have had the affirmative action which is a form of quota system favourable to ethnic minorities.
The legacy they should inherit is the legacy of an overcomer.

cap28:

That's not true, Africans are entrepreneurial especially Nigerians, but the problem is that we are living in a world where the odds are stacked against us.

The bottom line is that the European would rather aid the progress of an Asian rather than an African.

I will use South Korea as an example - in the 1950s the united states actively assisted this country in its economic development in order to ensure that it did not fall under communist control from china, compare that to the US's involvement in DRC in the 1960s.
DRC has an estimated mineral wealth of $24 trillion, the US rather than aid in the development of that country preferred instead to overthrow a democratically elected prime minister (Lumumba) and impose a corrupt dictator (MObutu) who presided over the economic destruction of that country for over 30 years - what stopped the US from applying the same economic policies that they applied in South Korea to DRC? It is apparent that the Europeans do not want to see the progress of the black African race but would rather over see the wholesale destruction and ra.pe of us and our resources.

Blacks historically are hardworking people, we were instrumental in building the white man's industrialised societies.
Lazy people are not enslaved.

The issue of Asians opening shops in black areas is a big problem which needs to be addressed by black people, as far as I am aware no black person can set up shop in an Asian neighbourhood and expect to be successful so I see no reason why Asians should be allowed to run flourishing businesses in black neighbourhoods, especially given the fact that Asians can not stand black people.

I think the reason blacks patronise Asian shops in black areas goes back to the low self esteem we collectively suffer whereby we accord more respect to foreigners than to each other - this is a legacy of slavery and colonialism.

ITbomb:
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