A Christian prayer conference in India! and with pastor Chris in it, strangest thing I've seen this year

Arinze4eva: A Christian prayer conference in India! and with pastor Chris in it, strangest thing I've seen this year

Why's that?

India will burn! New doors for missions will open.

I saw dis since last yr, d meeting's gon be awesome, we r taking over, glooory

Exactly...india would never remain the same...it will burn with the fire of the Holy Spirit.

Imagine if india with a population of 700 million people (I'm surs it should be more), if they get this gospel...imagine the impact it would have in Asia!....Next is China... the church is marching on....Hallelujah
# Glooooooooooooooooray

Not to sound like the wet blanket but come on everybody here knows not everybody in India will accept the gospel as there is no place in the world where the gospel is accepted 100% not even in Israel. China next? Keep telling yourself that.

Tell our Christian leaders to stop making merchandise of the gospel in the name of "prayer conference".

Cash registrations, this conference is not a free public program. ...Why do you take it to the public then? Why must "conference PRAYER" be paid to register to participate? If you can't organize free program, is it by force you must organize one?

i'm fully in support of this programme

this is the first time i will see pastor Chris
ministering outside his church-christ embassy

what a glorious time it will b for that region and continent of the world

pls seun, make a front page topic immediately. thanks

see, what do u think

Goshen360: Tell our Christian leaders to stop making merchandise of the gospel in the name of "prayer conference".

Cash registrations, this conference is not a free public program. ...Why do you take it to the public then? Why must "conference PRAYER" be paid to register to participate? If you can't organize free program, is it by force you must organize one?

one of the mixed multitude... You are not part of us and God will deal with you personally except you repent.

zig2ryme04:

one of the mixed multitude... You are not part of us and God will deal with you personally except you repent.

Your threats are actually nothing to me. I've gone past that. And what will you do if God doesn't deal with me?

FOOL FINDER: Not to sound like the wet blanket but come on everybody here knows not everybody in India will accept the gospel as there is no place in the world where the gospel is accepted 100% not even in Israel. China next? Keep telling yourself that.

With my God, ALL things are possible

Goshen360: Tell our Christian leaders to stop making merchandise of the gospel in the name of "prayer conference".

Cash registrations, this conference is not a free public program. ...Why do you take it to the public then? Why must "conference PRAYER" be paid to register to participate? If you can't organize free program, is it by force you must organize one?

Your opinion is duly noted, thanks for stopping by.

zig2ryme04:

one of the mixed multitude... You are not part of us and God will deal with you personally except you repent.

Exactly...he forgot its a Christian leader conference, hence not for everybody... and that monies would be needed for organisation, payment of staff n other workers and also, materials to be used like books, wi-fi, maybe cost for running the generator, meals etc

He sees it as merchandising the gospel...cos he knows nothing about ministry, if he did, he'd know the gospel is expensive to push out to others

Gombs:


Exactly...he forgot its a Christian leader conference, hence not for everybody... and that monies would be needed for organisation, payment of staff n other workers and also, materials to be used like books, wi-fi, maybe cost for running the generator, meals etc

He sees it as merchandising the gospel...cos he knows nothing about ministry, if he did, he'd know the gospel is expensive to push out to others

You no say we no sabi read and we don't know the difference between CHRISTIAN conference and Christian LEADER'S conference. You no say we no sabi anything. Keep deceiving Y'ALL SELVES.

Goshen360:

You no say we no sabi read and we don't know the difference between CHRISTIAN conference and Christian LEADER'S conference. You no say we no sabi anything. Keep deceiving Y'ALL SELVES.

Why do you keep acting out an hypocritical script? Are you against a prayer and an evangelistic tour?

If you really are called to be an apostle of Christ.You wouldn't condemn one of your own..Rather you would pray for the success of this mission so the banner of Jesus will be revealed the more in india.

This is 2014..I beg you stop being a toy and tool in the hands of satan.

Bidam: Why do you keep acting out an hypocritical script? Are you against a prayer and an evangelistic tour?

If you really are called to be an apostle of Christ.You wouldn't condemn one of your own..Rather you would pray for the success of this mission so the banner of Jesus will be revealed the more in india.

This is 2014..I beg you stop being a toy and tool in the hands of satan.

Did you read what was my first post and did you read the threat that was issued against me? You, as my brother, can you issue such threats even when we disagree?

What exactly was I against? The program?

I don't know if they are paying for this on but it's not an issue People do pay money to register for conferences keh. That means there will be feeding and materials.

Goshen360:

Did you read what was my first post and did you read the threat that was issued against me? You, as my brother, can you issue such threats even when we disagree?

What exactly was I against? The program?

i read your initial post quite well and i see nothing wrong in people paying a token to register for an outreach.

Did you see them telling you the payment was compulsory? Wats wrong in giving free will offerings,cash and donations to propagate the gospel?I guess this is where we will always disagree and debate on..SMH!

Joagbaje:
I don't know if they are paying for this on but it's not an issue People do pay money to register for conferences keh. That means there will be feeding and materials.

Oh yes, people do pay for business conferences.

Bidam: i read your initial post quite well and i see nothing wrong in people paying a token to register for an outreach.

Did you see them telling you the payment was compulsory? Wats wrong in giving free will offerings,cash and donations to propagate the gospel?I guess this is where we will always disagree and debate on..SMH!

Give us biblical ground to charge FEES for Christian meetings or conference, either BY REGISTRATION OR SEAT RESERVATION. A big you no see flyers ni?

Goshen360:

Give us biblical ground to charge FEES for Christian meetings or conference, either BY REGISTRATION OR SEAT RESERVATION. A big you no see flyers ni?

Good..stop mirepresenting my post by using the word CHARGING fees which i never said.When Paul for example said he robbed other churches to be a blessing to the church in corinth during his evangelistic crusades what do you think he meant

Bidam: Good..stop mirepresenting my post by using the word CHARGING fees which i never said.When Paul for example said he robbed other churches to be a blessing to the church in corinth during his evangelistic crusades what do you think he meant

You mean Paul was a robber? I thought you have once enrolled in the concordance class. What happened to you?

Besides, how does Paul issue correlate with registration fees for Christian conferences or for seat reservation? I'll like to be your student in this aspect.

Goshen360:

You mean Paul was a robber? I thought you have once enrolled in the concordance class. What happened to you?

Besides, how does Paul issue correlate with registration fees for Christian conferences or for seat reservation? I'll like to be your student in this aspect.

And where did my statement said Paul was a robber? I cant quote the exact scripture cos i am on phone..You can google it..Are you not our rabbi on this forum

Bidam: And where did my statement said Paul was a robber? I cant quote the exact scripture cos i am on phone..You can google it..Are you not our rabbi on this forum

1. You came into the thread saying this,

Bidam: Why do you keep acting out an hypocritical script? Are you against a prayer and an evangelistic tour?
If you really are called to be an apostle of Christ.You wouldn't condemn one of your own..Rather you would pray for the success of this mission so the banner of Jesus will be revealed the more in india.
This is 2014..I beg you stop being a toy and tool in the hands of satan.

You implied I was against the program instead of addressing what I was actually against - that is, registration and reservation fees.

And then, I said\asked you this,

Goshen360:
Did you read what was my first post and did you read the threat that was issued against me? You, as my brother, can you issue such threats even when we disagree?
What exactly was I against? The program?

And then, you came up with this,

Bidam: i read your initial post quite well [b]and i see nothing wrong in people paying a token to register for an outreach. Did you see them telling you the payment was compulsory? Wats wrong in giving free will offerings,cash and donations to propagate the gospel?[/b]I guess this is where we will always disagree and debate on..SMH!

Here, you didn't see anything wrong in people PAYING a token TO REGISTER FOR AN OUTREACH, in this case a Christian meeting\conference. On the other hand, you switch to free will offerings, cash and donations AS IF IT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WILL BE COLLECTED DURING THE PROGRAMME but you know we're talking about FEES that is collected in disguise of registration\reservation fee IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE OR BEFORE ONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM - two different things.

And then I challenged you to produce a scripture on which registration\reservation fees could be charged for Christian conferences\meetings,

Goshen360:
Give us biblical ground to charge FEES for Christian meetings or conference, either BY REGISTRATION OR SEAT RESERVATION. A big you no see flyers ni?

And you came up with this,

Bidam: Good..stop mirepresenting my post by using the word CHARGING fees which i never said.When Paul for example said he robbed other churches to be a blessing to the church in corinth during his evangelistic crusades what do you think he meant

If you didn't imply the highlight to the scripture I asked you to produce in respect to fees for Christian meetings or conferences, please do so now. I need you to produce scriptural basis on which reservation\registration fees for Christian meetings should be charged BEFORE CHRISTIANS CAN PARTICIPATE IN SUCH PROGRAMMES.

Goshen360:

You mean Paul was a robber? I thought you have once enrolled in the concordance class. What happened to you?

Besides, how does Paul issue correlate with registration fees for Christian conferences or for seat reservation? I'll like to be your student in this aspect.

Where did he call Paul a robber?
2 Corinthians 11v8

It turns out that the other churches paid my way so that you could have a free ride. 

New Living Translation
I "robbed" other churches by accepting their [size=32pt] contributions so I could serve you at no cost.[/size]


Like bidam asked, what did you think Paul meant? Of course Paul knew spreading the gospel was expensive. The above bold means free of charge, meaning it could have been charged for.

Instead of u to be happy the word and gospel is going to India, u are here castigating. And u think that u are wiser that God to know they are actually merchandising the gospel. It is not compulsory, those who'd wanna be there are not complaining, but you dey here dey drink panadol for another man headache.

Those who go to seminary school pay monies, why didn't you call it merchandising the gospel?
Those who go for Bible seminar/school, why didn't you call it merchandising?

I wonder if you are actually born again and spirit filled. U would want it to be that every man attending the conference should buy their foods themselves, what about resource materials and what about the cost of running the conference. Even at that, you'd still say it was badly organized. I don't know why you think those pastors are out there in India to make monies...

Luke 6v45
New International Version
A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

You have evil in ur heart!
U didn't rejoice for the work going on in India, u are here bothered about the money to be spent!

Gombs:

Where did he call Paul a robber?
2 Corinthians 11v8

It turns out that the other churches paid my way so that you could have a free ride. 

New Living Translation
I "robbed" other churches by accepting their contributions so I could serve you at no cost.


Like bidam asked, what did you think Paul meant? Of course Paul knew spreading the gospel was expensive.

Instead of u to be happy the word and gospel is going to India, u are here castigating. And u think that u are wiser that God to know they are actually merchandising the gospel. It is not compulsory, those who'd wanna be there are not complaining, but you dey here dey drink panadol for another man headache.

Those who go to seminary school pay monies, why didn't you call it merchandising the gospel?
Those who go for Bible seminar/school, why didn't you call it merchandising?

I wonder if you are actually born again and spirit filled. U would want it to be that every man attending the conference should buy their foods themselves, what about resource materials and what about the cost of running the conference. Even at that, you'd still say it was badly organized. I don't know why you think those pastors are out there in India to make monies...

Luke 6v45
New International Version
A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

You have evil in ur heart!
U didn't rejoice for the work going on in India, u are here bothered about the money to be spent!

Stop this your ranting and address what I queried. On what scriptural ground do ministers have to charge registration\reservation for seat FEES for Christians BEFORE they can attend A PRAYER CONFERENCE?

Goshen360:

Stop this your ranting and address what I queried. On what scriptural ground do ministers have to charge registration\reservation for seat FEES for Christians BEFORE they can attend A PRAYER CONFERENCE?

U must be blind or dyslexic or both.....uv been answered above

Gombs:

U must be blind or dyslexic or both.....uv been answered above

Your deception is noted. Hold lemme pull it out!

Goshen360:

Your deception is noted. Hold lemme pull it out!

Ok fine, we agree, they are merchandising the gospel...thanks for pointing that out. Your opinion is noted. Thanks for stopping by

Gombs:

Where did he call Paul a robber?
2 Corinthians 11v8

It turns out that the other churches paid my way so that you could have a free ride. 

New Living Translation
I "robbed" other churches by accepting their [size=32pt] contributions so I could serve you at no cost.[/size]

The bold will mean, contributions WAS collected from somewhere, say church A SO THAT church B could be served AT NO COST. What do we see in church B, in this case, Prayer conference, REGISTRATION AND SEAT RESERVATION FEES ARE CHARGED AT TOKEN COST. Okay, you know what, I'm gonna call that number provided and ask how much is the seat reservation\registration fees.

Wait o, I thought you said it wasn't for Christians but for LEADERS,

Gombs:

Exactly...he forgot its a Christian leader conference, hence not for everybody... and that monies would be needed for organisation, payment of staff n other workers and also, materials to be used like books, wi-fi, maybe cost for running the generator, meals etc
He sees it as merchandising the gospel...cos he knows nothing about ministry, if he did, he'd know the gospel is expensive to push out to others

^ The highlight in BLUE is supposed to have been taken care of BY THE SCRIPTURE YOU QUOTED, that monies would have been collected from another source to take care of this conference but here ^ re-read what you wrote ^ up there - that monies would be needed for organisation, payment of staff n other workers and also, materials to be used like books, wi-fi, maybe cost for running the generator, meals etc

Again, prayer conference is not by force. If una pastors can't organize conference and prayer meetings without charging fees BEFORE people can attend, they shouldn't do such. I'm not ignorant and I'm not talking of collections during the event, but before the event as towards or for purpose to allow people to attend, it is grossly unscriptural.

Gombs:

Instead of u to be happy the word and gospel is going to India, u are here castigating. And u think that u are wiser that God to know they are actually merchandising the gospel. It is not compulsory, those who'd wanna be there are not complaining, but you dey here dey drink panadol for another man headache.
Those who go to seminary school pay monies, why didn't you call it merchandising the gospel?
Those who go for Bible seminar/school, why didn't you call it merchandising?
I wonder if you are actually born again and spirit filled. U would want it to be that every man attending the conference should buy their foods themselves, what about resource materials and what about the cost of running the conference. Even at that, you'd still say it was badly organized. I don't know why you think those pastors are out there in India to make monies...
Luke 6v45
New International Version
A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.
You have evil in ur heart!
U didn't rejoice for the work going on in India, u are here bothered about the money to be spent!

I don't know who is evil between you and me. I'm never against the meeting itself - I do organize programmes too. Your dishonesty and hypocrisy wont let you see or address what I'm against.

2. What bible school\seminary did the Apostles attended? All those are from organized religious groups that had introduced business methods into Christianity. I'm not against bible school but paying to understand or learn God's word is outright unApostolic.

3. You don't have to believe if I'm born again or not - It's the Spirit that bears witness that I'm God's son not YOU.

4. If you think it's evil in my heart for speaking against fees charging before Christian meeting could be attended, then let God be my judge. Afterall, one of your members had issued a threat against me, so let's wait for God to judge.

zig2ryme04:
one of the mixed multitude... You are not part of us and God will deal with you personally except you repent.