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The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 8:31pm On Sep 14, 2008
As gay church arrives Nigeria, Christian, Muslim clerics declare:It’s evil!

A welter of criticism has greeted the emergence of the first openly declared gay church in the country.
Both Christian and Muslim clerics have not only condemned it, they equally dismissed it as evil.

In very strong terms, therefore, they want the National Assembly to enact laws to stop what they describe as a festering sore from gaining roots and spreading.

The Archdeacon of Oleh Diocese in Delta State, Ven. M.A.E Igri, in his reaction, said “the church is not biblical and out of tune with God’s plan. God created man and woman to be married to themselves. The situation where a man will be married to a man is wrong and unacceptable.”

Coincidentally, while the Lagos debauchery was on, Anglican priests in Nigeria were holding an All-Anglican Clergy conference at Nsukka, Enugu State, where they spoke against gay marriages that is currently threatening the cohesion in the Church.
Similarly, the National Missioner of the Ansar-u-deen Society of Nigeria, Abdurrahman Ahmad called on the National Assembly to legislate against homosexuality in Nigeria.
Said he: “All people of conscience and people of faith must rise to fight this evil.”

Genesis
For the first time in Nigeria, men who openly declared themselves as homosexuals gathered penultimate weekend at a church in Ojudu, a Lagos suburb.
Under the auspices of a yet-to-be registered church - House of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church - the men held a seminar and night vigil.
The heavily guarded event paraded men who wore necklaces, rings, conducted themselves and spoke softly like women.

Grand Irony
Ironically, the homosexuals held the fiesta in the hall of United Bible University, Yakoyo Road, Ojudu, Lagos. The venue also serves as a place of worship for Christian Pentecostal Mission (CPM). The event, Sunday Sun learnt, was championed by a lawyer and Theologian, Rev. Roland Babajide Macaulay. On the days of the event, a retinue of mean – looking, ill-tempered security men barred our reporter from entering the venue and meeting the men.

However, when Sunday Sun revisited the place Wednesday evening, the hall, SARRMAC Auditorium, was being arranged for an evening worship by CPM. The church’s minister distanced the CPM from it.
“We have no connection with them whatsoever. We only hire this hall for service. We don’t own it,” he said. But he however, acknowledged hearing of the event.

Unmasked
As revealed by a plaque on the wall of the auditorium, the building was commissioned by the convener of the event, Rev. Roland Babajide Macaulay, on Saturday, November 10, 2001.
Sunday Sun investigation reveals that the man is the son of the founder, president and director of studies of United Bible University, Rev. Dr. Augustus Olakunle Macaulay. When our reporter sought to speak with him, a female secretary of his said he was out of town.

On his own
Contacted on phone, Rev. Macaulay denied having any link with the event. “God forbid! I don’t support any thing that’s contrary to the teachings of the bible and God,” he said, sounding shocked.
Asked to comment on his son’s glaring contradictory stance, he declined, saying, “I don’t want to discuss that. All I can say is that the man is my son and he’s over 40.”

Pressed for a proper interview, Rev. Dr. Augusts said he was at Owerri conducting a seminar, and from there he would head to Akwa Ibom and won’t be back until end of the month.
The United Bible University was established in 1994. The date is boldly emblazoned on its outer wall. To prove the top connection of the owner of the University, a new storey building - Moses Iloh Hall - was commissioned on Saturday June 17, 2006, by Hon. Oluyemi Cadoso, former Commissioner for Budget and Planning in Lagos State. The institution, according to a message on the wall of the new hall, aims to “develop moral Christian and ministerial education.”

Honours list
A board in the University’s SARRMAC Auditorium listed Mrs O.A. Adeboye as O.A. Adeboye as Appreciation Award and Best Award Winner, for 1980 to 1994. Those listed as Activity Award Winners include Mr. C.A. Sodipo, Lady Evang. C. Arinola Ogunye, Mr. A.O Adeneye, Evang. S.A. Aroyehun, Mrs. E. Doyin Mould-Olupitan, Evang. V.A. Akande, Mr A.O. Oduwole, and Mrs B.A. Sodipo.

Other names on the list include Mrs M.O. Makanjuola, Mrs Bandele Jacobs, Mr. J. Babatunde Ebadan, O. Oduwole and Mr. Emmanuel B.O. Shobande.

Homosexuality and HIV/AIDS
In a recent survey, Integrated Biological and Behaviour Surveillance ranks homosexuals second to female sex workers, as the group with the highest figure of HIV/AIDS. In fact, the survey puts the prevalence rate among men who have sex with men (MSM) at 13.5 percent.

Closet existence
Sunday Sun learnt that the church, House of Rainbow Metropolitan Community Church has been existing in the closet since 2006. The church, according to a source, is affiliated to other metropolitan community churches in America and Europe.
In a public statement, Rev. Roland Macaulay is quoted as saying that the church is “a mission and vision to transform hearts, lives and history and especially, to help people reconcile their sexuality and spirituality.”

Raging controversy
The ordination of gays as priests in the Anglican Church has raised a lot of dust and it is threatening to splinter the Anglican Communion. The leaders of the church in America and Britain have conciliatory view on the matter. But African bishops are resolute on non-admittance and ordination of gays.

Woe betide them
At a week-long All-Anglican Clergy Conference which ended penultimate Friday at Nsukka, Enugu state, the issue reverberated. The Primate of All Nigeria Anglican Communion, Most Rev. Peter Jasper Akinola said that, “Anglican orthodox members of this church are poised to do the mission of the church and those who say that gay is their concern woe onto them.”

Crime and punishment
A lawyer in Lagos, Mr Godwin Ewa took a critical look at the gathering of gays and described it as a fad in Europe and America being imported into the country.
“Nigeria is a dumping ground for all manners of products and perverted ideas and lifestyle. From this development, it won’t be long before we begin to hear of gay rights, same sex marriage and so on,” he said.

Lamenting that homosexuality is an infringement and a complete assault on the nation’s core values, Ewa blamed it on the lax law and lenient punishment for offenders. The law classifies it as “unnatural offences” under Section 214 and “indecent practices between males” under Section 217 of the Criminal Code,” he said.
According to him, the Criminal Code criminalizes homosexual, gay marriages, lesbianism and sodomy. When an offender is convicted, he or she could be jailed for up to 14 years.



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Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 12:01am On Sep 15, 2008
I guess, Nigeria is finally advancing gradually!

MAMAJAMA will finally be comfortable to move back home.  cry
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by 1luvkipsus: 9:51am On Sep 15, 2008
I thought you were gay!!! Just 'thoughting'.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Nobody: 2:32pm On Sep 15, 2008
aru !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 2:35pm On Sep 15, 2008
@elodie:

was that question for me?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Nobody: 3:06pm On Sep 15, 2008
BIG B1, ARE YOU ONE OF THEM( GAY ) ARU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! toufiakwa.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 3:18pm On Sep 15, 2008
I've seen your pic, you look OK. Why don't you come visit so that I can give you some samples?

I think there is nothing better than you making the judgement!

What do you say?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 3:29pm On Sep 15, 2008
I think United States of America is purely responsible for this craziness.

America is so worried about the treatment of Mu slim women in the middle east, but sees nothing wrong with men marrying men and women marrying women.

It used to be only in America, I guess, it would now be, and in Africa too!

It's crazy.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 3:41pm On Sep 15, 2008
It used to be only in America?? ROFLMAO!!!! From Way back in history, even recorded in roman history, but nooo,  it used to be only in America? LMAO!!! We should all forget that even history of the middle east includes stories of gay kings, cause it only used to be in america.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 3:56pm On Sep 15, 2008
It used to be only in America?? ROFLMAO!!!! From Way back in history, even recorded in roman history, but nooo,  it used to be only in America? LMAO!!! We should all forget that even history of the middle east includes stories of gay kings, cause it only used to be in america.

Are the gay kings in middle east marrying one another?

Pay attention.
Here is my point: America happens to be one of the first (if not the first) to initiate and embrace homosexual marriages.

Again, only in America; a land that ignores all her problems, but wants to be involved with others' problems.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 4:01pm On Sep 15, 2008
Here is an article on Gay Marriage around the world , 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage




History
Main article: History of same-sex unions

There is evidence that same sex unions have occurred since the beginning of recorded history in Egypt, China, Greece, Rome and Japan. [11] Famous lovers include the Egyptian couple Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum and the Greek couple Harmodius and Aristogiton. The first recorded use of the word "marriage" for same-sex couples occurs during the Roman Empire. A number of marriages are recorded to have taken place during this period. [12] The rise of Christianity changed attitudes to same-sex unions and led to the persecution of gays. In the year 342, the Christian emperors Constantius and Constans declared same-sex marriage to be illegal.[13] In the year 390, the Christian emperors Valentinian II, Theodosius I and Arcadius declared homosexual sex to be illegal and those who were guilty of it were condemned to be publicly burned alive. [14]


Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by milknhoney(f): 4:10pm On Sep 15, 2008
Big B1:

Again, only in America; a land that ignores all her problems, but wants to be involved with others' problems.
America doesn't ignore her problems. Unlike Nigeria, they don't put it on display but on hush mouth.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 4:13pm On Sep 15, 2008
Here is an article on Gay Marriage around the world ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

Just in-case you did not know, Wikipedia could be modified at anytime by any ninny.

The last time I checked, United States of America has openly endorsed the HOLY MATRIMONY between men and men and women and women.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 4:15pm On Sep 15, 2008
America doesn't ignore her problems. Unlike Nigeria, they don't put it on display but on hush mouth.

The topic doesn't say compare America to Nigeria.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Nobody: 4:18pm On Sep 15, 2008
BIG BI WHERE ARE  YOU ? AGAINST OR WITH ?.
FOR ME SORRY I WONT MARRY A  FELLOW WOMAN .
ARUUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by MrCrackles(m): 4:19pm On Sep 15, 2008
wonders upon wonders!

gay people sef get them own church?

very soon, they would have thier own banks and own government!
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 4:21pm On Sep 15, 2008
BIG BI WHERE ARE YOU ? AGAINST OR WITH ?.

Where were you? I've already answered you.

AGAIN:

I've seen your pic, you look OK. Why don't you come visit so that I can give you some samples?

I think there is nothing better than you making the judgement!

What do you say?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by milknhoney(f): 4:24pm On Sep 15, 2008
Big B1:

The topic doesn't say compare America to Nigeria.
You basically just called yourself out. Are you not the one comparing in the arrival of gay churches in Nigeria and America? Are you not the one who initially posted that America hides their problems and display the problems of other countries? You my friend, are a pointless debator.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 4:27pm On Sep 15, 2008
The last time I checked, United States of America has openly endorsed the HOLY MATRIMONY between men and men and women and women.
And I think this is where this mess is coming from.

I hate to judge; I have nothing against Gay (as long as you keep it to yourself), but I also do not think my country needs to deal with this rubbish at this time.

We have enough issues in Nigeria!
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by milknhoney(f): 4:35pm On Sep 15, 2008
Big B1:

The last time I checked, United States of America has openly endorsed the HOLY MATRIMONY between men and men and women and women.
And I think this is where this mess is coming from.

I hate to judge; I have nothing against Gay (as long as you keep it to yourself), but I also do not think my country needs to deal with this rubbish at this time.

We have enough issues in Nigeria!
Ezigbo nwoke. You have just made the point i was trying to make. You have no idea what you are debating about. You are simply posting for the sake of taking up space. The last time you must have checked that United States fully endorsed same sex marriage, you must have been watching Queer Eye for the Straight guy. US doesnt endorse same sex marriage. What they do is give people the choice to choose their life styles. Hence the name of "America, The Home of the Free." Kene Chukwu that more people don't think as you do. I can only imagine how demented Nigeria would have been.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Nobody: 4:35pm On Sep 15, 2008
YOU SAW MY PIC AND SOOOOOOOOOOOOO. ?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 4:36pm On Sep 15, 2008
I have an account myself on Wikipedia, but that story right there is actually close to the truth and if you notice on the same, it does point out that america is not the first country to legally accept gay union. The Wikipedia article does include some really good sources that can not be edited by any ninny to help buttress my point that America is not the first, nor the third.

Nigerians has always had gays people living and breathing in their midst. To suddenly link gay relationships in Nigeria to that in America is a ridiculous move, in my opinion. I am sure America did not send out gay ambassadors to my school, back in the days to call all the gals and guys to become lesbians and what not. And I am certain that using america as excuse for gay marriage in Nigeria, knowing there is no direct link,  would be a stupid argument to make. If you really believe this is a problem in Nigeria, then limit the attacks to Nigeria. Not try over and over to link it to America by trying to put blame on America, yet again. America is not the first and will not bve the last.

Gay Union is a california, and I believe massacheusetts issue. Not a Nationwide endorsement. I am not sure of what the situation in massacheusetts is but I believe the union is restricted to certain states.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by BigB11(m): 4:50pm On Sep 15, 2008
Ok, well said.
Now do you think opening Gay Church in Nigeria at this time is right or wrong?

Again, I have nothing against gay (in fact, my best friend, MAMAJAMA is gay, and I still treat him with absolute respect).
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 4:56pm On Sep 15, 2008
Big B1:

Ok, well said.
Now do you think opening Gay Church in Nigeria at this time is right or not right?

Again, I have nothing against gay (in fact, my best friend, MAMAJAMA is gay, and I still treat him with absolute respect).


Well… what are these gay churches doing to the Nigerian people is the main question? I really do not see anything wrong with these churches as in, even as I do not see the wrong in the many shrines scattered all over the same country, and still active.

I am a deeply religious person, and I do believe that gay act is wrong on all levels but what can I do about it? FORCE people not to be gay? Nah!! I have better ways to spend my time. COMPLAIN about how their gay lifestyle affects my eye?? Nah!!! Complain about how the churches take away from the other churches in the community? Nah!! I believe they pose a challenge to the Christian society, as have the many shrines have and continue to do.

I think we have other issues to worry about in that country, rather than focus energy on hating the churches for being gay. Just do not attend one of them and preach to your gay friends about how the bible says it is abomination. When you are done, dust your sandals and move on. That is how I approach these issues. They get to choose what they want to do even as I choose what I do with my own life so I see no reason why I should focus much energy on such issues.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by c33b33(m): 5:01pm On Sep 15, 2008
na wa o!will NIGERIA be the next after S.A?Let me see how they interprete the homosexual passage in the BIBLE
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by bawomolo(m): 6:08pm On Sep 15, 2008
In very strong terms, therefore, they want the National Assembly to enact laws to stop what they describe as a festering sore from gaining roots and spreading.

what a bunch of gullible people called Nigerians. you bitch about lawmakers not attending to major issues then u start babbling about moral issues such as gay marriage and indecent dressing. yeye people. as for Big B1, the US is actually regarded as behind the developed world when it comes to the issue of gay right
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by bawomolo(m): 6:09pm On Sep 15, 2008
c33b33:

na wa o!will NIGERIA be the next after S.A?Let me see how they interprete the homosexual passage in the BIBLE

nigeria is constitutionally a secular country, what does the bibeli have to do with anything
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by blackspade(m): 6:17pm On Sep 15, 2008
Even though I don't agree with any Homosexual ideology, if Nigeria wants to become progressive, we have to respect all people's viewpoints and lifestyles. This means everyones opinion should be respected, and not dictated from Government, or anyone else.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Mamajama(m): 6:21pm On Sep 15, 2008
@BIGB1.  some times they say silence is the best answer to a fool, but sometime you must respond so the fool won't make the same mistake again.

It is clear to me that stupidity does bounds  in the heart and you are a clear example.

AS many voluptuous and IKEBE woman that are out there,  why would anyone want another hairy man climbing over their back?  

Since you know MR BIGB1  please enlighten us.

Facts your dad IBB  AKA  BABANGIDA was known for importing gay men from Egypt while he was ruling Nigerian.

Secondly Gay  and homosexuality existed in the North before it was publicly accepted in some American district.  Visit Kano or Kaduna.

BIGB1 stop spreading rumors, please name one church in America that only has gay couples as the denomination?

or how many states in America has recognize same sex marriage?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 6:22pm On Sep 15, 2008
blackspade:

Even though I don't agree with any Homosexual ideology, if Nigeria wants to become progressive, we have to respect all people's viewpoints and lifestyles. This means everyones opinion should be respected, and not dictated from Government, or anyone else.

I have issues with people trying to link the word PROGRESSIVE with these issues. Nigeria being more accepting of gay community has absolutely nothing to do with being progressive. This does not in any way mean everyone’s opinion should be respected at all because that should have been the norm in the first place and these will not change the political and social situation in that country in any wise.

So, please let us not link bats and ghouls here.
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by blackspade(m): 6:25pm On Sep 15, 2008
^^ You think people's rights to live how they like should be questioned? Please, explain where you get your knowledge, or lack of I must say?
Re: The Arrival Of Gay Church In Nigeria! by Kobojunkie: 6:26pm On Sep 15, 2008
Please read the post before and then this one to get how your question may not compute here.

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