Qstar, stop this your atheist nonsense.
Scientists already have proof for god: www.nairaland.com/1812604/scientific-proof-god-real-atheists

Apatheist: Qstar, stop this your atheist nonsense.
Scientists already have proof for god

Lol.

qstar:

Lol.

I'm no longer atheist.
I now worship the evolved god.

qstar:

Then "Jesus" is the strongest myth.

The truth about these stories is, it's not as if these men didn't exist, but overtime, their stories have been edited and re-edited that the current versions are very unreliable.

krista is just a myth while that of Jesus is true life story.

If the stories has been edited, use the manuscripts that are trusted.

Sometimes i feel we r on trade mission with God.

He created us.........for an end product or gain or whatever God calls it-there is smthing He wants to acheive from us at the end of the day..but then He brought d bible......as a guide, as a criterion to meet with His end product of creating us........that is wher d problems lies...

If u make heaven,,,good for u
if u make hell,,,it is then u will knw that He is a loving God, n at d same time,a dangerous God!

No repentance in d grave.....that God is strict, ''He no dey hear i beg if u die finish''......He won't help u......or show mercy...

And i've bin asking....but He said He is a loving God......and even teaches us to love others,y has He refused to show mercy to those crying in hell.......this is wht i cannot fathom ever since!
Yet some said there is no God.

I refer to Him as 'dat God' those in hell now understand better:

LET US LIVE RIGHT 2 MAKE HEAVEN,THAT GOD WON'T PITY US IN HELL.

Remember the gold rule, constructive critizism not distructive, dnt be the devil your self, be warn

apatheist:
Biologists Confirm God Evolved From Chimpanzee Deity

Researchers say today’s Lord Almighty shares
many traits in common with the chimp deity,
including color vision and omniscience.

BERKELEY, CA—Challenging long-held views on
the origins of divinity, biologists at the
University of California, Berkeley, presented
findings Thursday that confirm God, the
Almighty Creator of the Universe, evolved from
an ancient chimpanzee deity.
The recently discovered sacred ancestor, a divine
chimp species scientists have named Pan
sanctorum, reportedly gave rise over millions of
years to the Lord Our God, Maker of Heaven and
Earth.
“Although perhaps not obvious at first glance,
there are actually overwhelming similarities
between the Supreme Being of today and this
early primate deity who preceded Him,” said Dr.
Richard Kamen, a leading biologist who also
heads Berkeley’s paleotheology department. “The
holy chimp moved around on all fours, but its
descendants eventually began walking upright to
expend less energy while foraging across the
infinite reaches of the universe. This of course
led to the bipedalism of modern-day God.”
“In fact, you can see a distinct likeness to God
in the chimpanzee deity’s skeletal structures,
not to mention its prototypical expressions of
vengeance and wrath,” Kamen continued. “The
great-ape god was, however, considerably smaller
in stature, having not yet developed the
capacity to occupy all space and time
simultaneously.”
According to experts, divine life began as a
single-celled all-powerful organism roughly 3.6
billion years ago, eventually evolving into a
multicelled, sponge-like deity that bobbed and
floated across the chaos of the early universe.
Kamen explained that over hundreds of millions
of years, the godlike life form became more
complex, with limbs that allowed for locomotion
across the endless expanse of the heavens, and
sophisticated photoreceptor cells capable of
seeing all things.
Based on newly obtained evidence, the Pan
sanctorum is thought to have first experimented
with creation ex nihilo around 7 million years
ago. Kamen noted that the chimpanzee deity
made several early attempts to produce
rudimentary solar systems, but on each occasion
was spooked upon inadvertently creating fire,
which is said to have caused it to screech loudly,
angrily swat away the newly formed sun, and
then scamper across the universe to hide from
the flaming sphere.
“Natural selection played a huge role in the
evolution of divinity, and in this regard, the
adaptive value of Pan sanctorum’s immortality
proved critical to its survival,” said Kamen,
adding that with its opposable thumbs, the
divine ancestor was eventually able to fashion
primitive tools for creating crude oceans and
basic mountain ranges. “Today’s Lord Almighty
actually still has a small bony protuberance in
the small of His back, the vestigial remains of a
tail we believe was used by an even older,
monkey-like god to facilitate climbing, allowing it
to escape into the heavens when faced with
danger.” [like the Tower of Babel, and
spaceships]
“That potential for threats made it an
evolutionary imperative for the primate god to
develop omnipotence, ”Kamen continued. “As
well as sharp claws and pointed incisors.”
Though its smaller brain limited its cognitive
abilities, the chimpanzee deity is believed to
have possessed not only self-awareness, but also
spatial intelligence, object permanence, and a
rudimentary capacity for knowing all that is, all
that has been, and all that ever will be.
However, it was only relatively recently that the
heavenly species developed the intellectual
capacity for higher reasoning, critical thinking,
and infinite wisdom, according to Kamen. For Pan
sanctorum, he noted, the passage of divine
judgment was “purely a matter of primal
instinct.”
“While complex speech would not emerge until
the evolution of the Cro-Magnon god from Pan
Sanctorum, the chimpanzee deity was capable of
using grunts and hand gestures to convey basic
emotions such as happiness, anger, or the
forgiveness of sin,” Kamen said.
“However, it appears that the chimp deity often
exhibited extremely aggressive behavior, in some
cases unleashing its divine wrath with little if
any provocation toward the mortal chimps it
created in its own image.”
He added, “It is our understanding that these
creatures lived in a kind of jungle-like
forerunner to the Garden of Eden, until a day
came when their enraged creator cast them out,
flinging feces at them as they fled.”

I'm profiling the discussants on this thread just to clear out apparent inconsistencies:

Please answer these questions:

*Do you believe God exists? if yes, then which religion fuels your belief?

*Do you believe God exists and yet you hate whoever he is?

qstar: @eberex. Do you agree that God is: all-powerful(omnipotent), all-loving(omnibenevolent), all-knowing(omniscient) and all-present(omnipresent)?
Do you agree?

Of course I do. So what's your point?

efficiencie:

I'm profiling the discussants on this thread just to clear out apparent inconsistencies:

Please answer these questions:

*Do you believe God exists? if yes, then which religion fuels your belief?

I believe in the evolved GOD.

*Do you believe God exists and yet you hate whoever he is?

The god in your buy-bull, is a douchebag, especially in the old testament.

Apatheist:
I believe in the evolved GOD.


The god in your buy-bull, is a douchebag, especially in the old testament.

your response concludes that God exists and you hate him. If this conclusion is correct please answer these:

WHY DO YOU HATE GOD?

DO YOU ALSO HATE THE GODS OF OTHER RELIGIONS OTHER THAN THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS?

Eberex:

Of course I do. So what's your point?

if yes, you believe God's all powerful then you believe also that God exists.

if you believe God exists then please answer these questions:

WHO OR WHAT IS YOUR GOD?

WHICH RELIGION FUELS YOUR BELIEF IN GOD?

DO YOU HATE GOD?

IF YES, YOU HATE GOD,WHY DO YOU HATE GOD?

efficiencie:

your response concludes that God exists and you hate him. If this conclusion is correct please answer these:

WHY DO YOU HATE GOD?

DO YOU ALSO HATE THE GODS OF OTHER RELIGIONS OTHER THAN THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS?

LMFAO.
I do not believe in any god, or God, or gods, whatever.
The character Yahweh in the Judeo-Christian book of myths is an asshole and a hypocrite, same goes for the character Allah in the novel, Qu'ran.

efficiencie:

if yes, you believe God's all powerful then you believe also that God exists.

if you believe God exists then please answer these questions:

WHO OR WHAT IS YOUR GOD?

WHICH RELIGION FUELS YOUR BELIEF IN GOD?

DO YOU HATE GOD?

IF YES, YOU HATE GOD,WHY DO YOU HATE GOD?

I believe in God whose name is 'I AM WHO I AM''
Religion has nothing to do with believing God
and I don't hate God

Apatheist:
LMFAO.
I do not believe in any god, or God, or gods, whatever.
The character Yahweh in the Judeo-Christian book of myths is an asshole and a hypocrite, same goes for the character Allah in the novel, Qu'ran.

Your premises sir are illogical and do not lead to valid conclusions. your premises are:

premise 1 I do not believe in any god, or God, or gods,
whatever

premise 2 The character Yahweh in the Judeo-Christian
book of myths is an Naughty Person and a
hypocrite, same goes for the character Allah in
the novel, Qu'ran.

your premises contradict eachother!

if you DO NOT BELIEVE in the existence of any God going by premise 1 then how do you BELIEVE God to be a naughty person and a hypocrite going by premise 2?

please correct this?

Eberex:

I believe in God whose name is 'I AM WHO I AM''
Religion has nothing to do with believing God
and I don't hate God

Is Jesus the Son of God, an arch-angel or a prophet of God?

qstar:

if you believe God exists then please answer
these questions:

WHO OR WHAT IS YOUR GOD?
WHICH RELIGION FUELS YOUR BELIEF IN GOD?
DO YOU HATE GOD?
IF YES, YOU HATE GOD,WHY DO YOU HATE
GOD?

efficiencie:

Your premises sir are illogical and do not lead to valid conclusions. your premises are:

premise 1 I do not believe in any god, or God, or gods,
whatever

premise 2 The character Yahweh in the Judeo-Christian
book of myths is an Naughty Person and a
hypocrite, same goes for the character Allah in
the novel, Qu'ran.

your premises contradict eachother!

if you DO NOT BELIEVE in the existence of any God going by premise 1 then how do you BELIEVE God to be a naughty person and a hypocrite going by premise 2?

please correct this?

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at your stupidity.

Did you not read where I called them books of myths and novels?

Have you read Harry Potter? What do you think of Snape? If you think Snape was a douche does it mean that you believe Snape is real? Did you not see I used the word "character " for the gods, and "novel " for the books?

See how religion brings out the stupidity in people. reread my post.

Apatheist:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at your stupidity.

Did you not read where I called them books of myths and novels?

Have you read Harry Potter? What do you think of Snape? If you think Snape was a douche does it mean that you believe Snape is real? Did you not see I used the word "character " for the gods, and "novel " for the books?

See how religion brings out the stupidity in people. reread my post.

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efficiencie:

Is Jesus the Son of God, an arch-angel or a prophet of God?

You just answered your question. He is the Son of God. But I doubt if you understand what ''Son'' means.

Apatheist:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at your stupidity.

Did you not read where I called them books of myths and novels?

Have you read Harry Potter? What do you think of Snape? If you think Snape was a douche does it mean that you believe Snape is real? Did you not see I used the word "character " for the gods, and "novel " for the books?

See how religion brings out the stupidity in people. reread my post.

and here i was thinking that the dude was a reasonable fellow giving the way he had argued in his previous posts. now he just confirmed that religion makes people sick in the brain.

Apatheist:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at your stupidity.

Did you not read where I called them books of myths and novels?

Have you read Harry Potter? What do you think of Snape? If you think Snape was a douche does it mean that you believe Snape is real? Did you not see I used the word "character " for the gods, and "novel " for the books?

See how religion brings out the stupidity in people. reread my post.

guy pls use eraser and clean this nonsense you wrote up there. my nine years old niece is already frustrated by this post.

sambisa5: Sometimes i feel we r on trade mission with God.

He created us.........for an end product or gain or whatever God calls it-there is smthing He wants to acheive from us at the end of the day..but then He brought d bible......as a guide, as a criterion to meet with His end product of creating us........that is wher d problems lies...

If u make heaven,,,good for u
if u make hell,,,it is then u will knw that He is a loving God, n at d same time,a dangerous God!

No repentance in d grave.....that God is strict, ''He no dey hear i beg if u die finish''......He won't help u......or show mercy...

And i've bin asking....but He said He is a loving God......and even teaches us to love others,y has He refused to show mercy to those crying in hell.......this is wht i cannot fathom ever since!
.

The truth is that God is not only a loving God, he is also a God of judgement. His love is great and his wrath is equally great. God has never hidden these two sides of him from us but we always want to see only his love side and use it to condemn his wrath. It doesn't work that way. God does not change,and if that's the case then it is obvious he did not develop wrath in him because of man. I believe these two characteristics were in him ever before creation and that is why he has always warned man from day one in the garden of eden on the danger of going against him which will result to tasting the bitter side of him. That's why he went as far as making the redemption plan for us through Jesus Christ so that we may escape this other side of him(judgement/wrath). God cannot change his nature, the best he can do is what he has done by making a way of escape for us. If anybody refuses to embrace the way of escape then the person has himself/herself to blame. If God had hidden this other side of him from us and be telling us that he is only a loving God then we could accuse him of deceit when he visits people with his wrath but here is a God who has NEVER pretended about his wrath. He has never seized to warn man on the need to avoid tasting that part of him so he has done his part. We can't understand him fully while on earth but if truly we want to be fair in viewing God then we must not be one sided about it( I.e. Viewing him only from his love angle) we must view him from both angle(love and judgement/wrath).
We could say that heaven is a complete manifestation of God's loving nature while hell/lake of fire is a complete manifestation of his judgement/wrath. And of course God's nature is eternal because he is unchangeable. Its left for us to choose which side of him we want to taste/experience eternally. Someone(torchwave) gave another insight on the JUST nature of God in another thread. I may have to bring his post here so that you ll also understand that angle of God too. God bless you.

efficiencie:

your response concludes that God exists and you hate him. If this conclusion is correct please answer these:

WHY DO YOU HATE GOD?

DO YOU ALSO HATE THE GODS OF OTHER RELIGIONS OTHER THAN THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS?

this guys doesn't really know sarcasm, does he?

efficiencie:

Your premises sir are illogical and do not lead to valid conclusions. your premises are:

premise 1 I do not believe in any god, or God, or gods,
whatever

premise 2 The character Yahweh in the Judeo-Christian
book of myths is an Naughty Person and a
hypocrite, same goes for the character Allah in
the novel, Qu'ran.

your premises contradict eachother!

if you DO NOT BELIEVE in the existence of any God going by premise 1 then how do you BELIEVE God to be a naughty person and a hypocrite going by premise 2?

please correct this?

SMH, this dude sure needs a chill pill.

Don't you get it yet? Apatheist, in premises 1, was saying that he doesn't believe in any god, God or gods and in premises 2 was referring to the pattern of "God" displayed in the Bible and Qur'an (which indeed discribes nothing but a hypocritical, attention-hungry, blood-thirsty megalomaniac).

alexleo:

The truth is that God is not only a loving God, he is also a God of judgement. His love is great and his wrath is equally great. God has never hidden these two sides of him from us but we always want to see only his love side and use it to condemn his wrath. It doesn't work that way. God does not change,and if that's the case then it is obvious he did not develop wrath in him because of man. I believe these two characteristics were in him ever before creation and that is why he has always warned man from day one in the garden of eden on the danger of going against him which will result to tasting the bitter side of him. That's why he went as far as making the redemption plan for us through Jesus Christ so that we may escape this other side of him(judgement/wrath). God cannot change his nature, the best he can do is what he has done by making a way of escape for us. If anybody refuses to embrace the way of escape then the person has himself/herself to blame. If God had hidden this other side of him from us and be telling us that he is only a loving God then we could accuse him of deceit when he visits people with his wrath but here is a God who has NEVER pretended about his wrath. He has never seized to warn man on the need to avoid tasting that part of him so he has done his part. We can't understand him fully while on earth but if truly we want to be fair in viewing God then we must not be one sided about it( I.e. Viewing him only from his love angle) we must view him from both angle(love and judgement/wrath).
We could say that heaven is a complete manifestation of God's loving nature while hell/lake of fire is a complete manifestation of his judgement/wrath. And of course God's nature is eternal because he is unchangeable. Its left for us to choose which side of him we want to taste/experience eternally. Someone(torchwave) gave another insight on the JUST nature of God in another thread. I may have to bring his post here so that you ll also understand that angle of God too. God bless you.

well spoken.......u've said it all!

sambisa5:

well spoken.......u've said it all!

na whr una dey na? abi una no wan argue again ni!?

efficiencie:

na whr una dey na? abi una no wan argue again ni!?

what do you mean by argue
That it is someone interest that you make heaven and not hell........

And u call it argue.it is a chioce dear.....to go to hell.....hope it's not too late for you guys sha...

When it calls for it,we argue it...but not forcing anybody to accept,afterall not everybody believed jesus while he was on earth and he didn't break their heads to force the truth into it........

sambisa5:

what do you mean by argue
That it is someone interest that you make heaven and not hell........

And u call it argue.it is a chioce dear.....to go to hell.....hope it's not too late for you guys sha...

When it calls for it,we argue it...but not forcing anybody to accept,afterall not everybody believed jesus while he was on earth and he didn't break their heads to force the truth into it........

actually i was referring to the God haters!

efficiencie:

actually i was referring to the God haters!

kk

sambisa5:

well spoken.......u've said it all!

Thanks dear

efficiencie:

actually i was referring to the God haters!

Now you are the one making false premises here. How can someone hate something that he doesn't even believes it exist?

alexleo:

The truth is that God is not only a loving God, he is also a God of judgement. His love is great and his wrath is equally great. God has never hidden these two sides of him from us but we always want to see only his love side and use it to condemn his wrath. It doesn't work that way. God does not change,and if that's the case then it is obvious he did not develop wrath in him because of man. I believe these two characteristics were in him ever before creation and that is why he has always warned man from day one in the garden of eden on the danger of going against him which will result to tasting the bitter side of him. That's why he went as far as making the redemption plan for us through Jesus Christ so that we may escape this other side of him(judgement/wrath). God cannot change his nature, the best he can do is what he has done by making a way of escape for us. If anybody refuses to embrace the way of escape then the person has himself/herself to blame. If God had hidden this other side of him from us and be telling us that he is only a loving God then we could accuse him of deceit when he visits people with his wrath but here is a God who has NEVER pretended about his wrath. He has never seized to warn man on the need to avoid tasting that part of him so he has done his part. We can't understand him fully while on earth but if truly we want to be fair in viewing God then we must not be one sided about it( I.e. Viewing him only from his love angle) we must view him from both angle(love and judgement/wrath).
We could say that heaven is a complete manifestation of God's loving nature while hell/lake of fire is a complete manifestation of his judgement/wrath. And of course God's nature is eternal because he is unchangeable. Its left for us to choose which side of him we want to taste/experience eternally. Someone(torchwave) gave another insight on the JUST nature of God in another thread. I may have to bring his post here so that you ll also understand that angle of God too. God bless you.

Well said brother.

God has never once hidden His full character from us, man only simply loves to cherry-pick which side of Him they want to emphasize while they ignore and play blind to the other side, or they hold unto one view of Him and try to use that side to call Him a hypocrite when He shows His other side.

God is loving and longsuffering; even so the scripture also calls Him "slow to anger". What does "slow to anger" mean, if not that He can finally get angry. We must see all the parts of God, to FULLY understand any single part of Him.

God is both loving and just and in between His love and justice He is also gracious to us. God is both good and severe; and in between His goodness and severity He is merciful to us. But even so, He is also just and severe.

Romans 11v22 -Behold therefore the GOODNESS and SEVERITY of God: on them whiche fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness....

Its not just atheists and unbelievers alone that have this dogmatic one-sided opinion of God and Christ. Even we christians to do it too; in issues like grace versus law, God's sovereignty versus man's freewill, christian suffering versus dominion mentality. We drift to the extreme we favour and we criticize or refuse to listen to the other side which also have good biblical points than can help us know God more fully. Most times in scriptural debate, truth is found in the balance between both extremes.