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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 6:51am On Jul 29, 2014 |
Empiree: Your help needed please. This is real story and i need sincere admonition on this. Everyone is welcome to contribute pls, including usermane guy, my friend. Religious point of view is mostly appreciated. Secular point is welcome too. next time leave out anything that resembles my user name. Sad story, I feel for the guy and mother. I think he might need to see a shrink, experts in relationship, maybe he should find a way of hosting children events in his home so his mother might get used to the idea of him having a life, him and his mother would have to talk thïngs out, I think her underlying fear could be abandonment. First thing encourage him to see psychiaristrist. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by sino(m): 9:27am On Jul 29, 2014 |
vedaxcool: On the moon issue, I will go with mac on this, it doesn't just make sense that muslims would have sat down and sunken so low to the extent of farbricating citing the moon, I don't blame the sultan for any of this, he just worked with the information at his disposal. I expected oloyede should have handled the matter better rather than in such a brazen and rude manner, we find ourselves in situations that requires tack and wisdom, he should have applied both. 12 mid night existed, but was not known as 12 mid night lol, i have forgotten the arabic word used for different parts of the night, i learnt it a very long time ago...and yes, the night comes before the day, so until fajr, night it is (generally speaking). |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 9:47am On Jul 29, 2014 |
REPORTED SIGHTINGS OF THE MOON AND ASTRONOMICAL MODELS One might be tempted to say that if the moon sighting is reported by trustworthy and adil (just) witnesses even though the astronomical models show it to be impossible, that should call into question the validity of those models rather than result in the discounting of the witnesses’ testimony. To understand why that is not necessarily the case, it is important to understand that it is entirely possible and even common for people to think they have seen the moon when in reality they have not. Clouds, dust, pollution, and other natural factors can sometimes be confused for the young crescent. And of course, today there are many manmade objects in the sky as well that can confuse even an experienced observer, including aircraft and satellites of various types. This type of confusion even existed in the era of the Imams of the ahl al-bayt (as), as evidenced by this hadith from Imam Jafar Sadiq (as), in which he was asked how many witnesses are sufficient in sighting the crescent. The Imam replied: "Verily, the month of Ramadan is one of the Divine obligations, so don’t base it on conjecture. And sighting the crescent is not for a group to go out, and then one says, “I have seen it,” while the others say “We didn’t see it.” If one sees it, a hundred see it, and if a hundred see it, a thousand see it. And in sighting the moon, the testimony of less than fifty is not sufficient if there is no obstacle in the sky; and if there is an obstacle, the testimony of two men who enter and leave a city is acceptable." In sha Allah, soon I will open a thread on "Islamic rulings on moonsighting" as explained with differences by various muslim's scholars of various schools. Still on research...the above is part in sha Allah. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 10:12am On Jul 29, 2014 |
sino: Oh, I see, permit me to ask if the moon was seen after 12 would it still be accepted as being an indication of when to start or stop fasting? |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by sino(m): 10:55am On Jul 29, 2014 |
vedaxcool: 10.5 Question: How much time is required for the 1st hilal to remain in the sky after sunset for visibility according to your findings? Why it is invisible if it remains above the horizon for more than 40 minutes after sun set? (Jan 20, 1999) Answer: Time varies for locations and months. On one particular evening a crescent may be thinnest in Japan but the same crescent will be 15 hours to 18 hours thicker in USA, and would remain in the sky above horizon at different latitudes for different duration. Sometimes the crescent may remain above horizon for more than 1 hour but it may not be seen, because it does not have any light of its own; it merely reflects sunlight, which it can only reflect if moon is at least a certain angle from the sun. Even when it meets minimum angle requirement, in some cases, the crescent is invisible because of being too low on the horizon, such that the background light of the setting sun on the horizon is brighter than the crescent. If you understand that moon does not have its own light, then its presence on the sky does not mean it is visible. You should realize that on 28th or 29th evening of a lunar month the moon disappears from sight; this is mainly for the same reason that it is not at sufficient angle to reflect sunlight. http://www.moonsighting.com/faq_ms.html#Criteria I think from the above, it can be deduced that it is impossible to see a new moon after 12 midnight, even the time limit for visibility is very short, i could remember one sighting that was reported at my mosque, people were gathered and looking, but i was focused on going into the mosque for prayers cos the prayer had started, on finishing my prayer and azkar, i now wanted to view the new moon, alas! it was nowhere to be found! mind you, this was not in the month of Ramadan. So such sighting at 12 midnight is definitely not the moon. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:53pm On Jul 29, 2014 |
vedaxcool: will tell him |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:20am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Bolivia declared Israel a terrorist state due to its aggression against palestine. Chile, Brazil, Ecuardor & Peru had all re-called their Ambassador from the Israeli regime due to its aggression against Gaza. But Israeli Ambassadors still remain in Egypt, Jordan & Turkey under heavy security. 1 Like
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:58am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Who is fooling who?? John Kerry is flying the world over asking for cease-fire and an end to the war in the middle-east, yet we all know the Us is d one supplying weapons to the Israelites, this war has been on since the 8th of July. Now Israel comes out to ask for more weapons and ammunitions, only for reports to come out today, the Us actually supplied the weapons on the 20th July. They have also come out to say they intend to increase funding to the Israeli military by $600million in 2015. The whole world is really messed up, no truth anywhere again 1 Like |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 10:30am On Jul 31, 2014 |
they are nasty. and when i said that isis was zionist creation i was tagged conspiracy theorist. Ever wonder y this bogus caliphate mute on this?. only flexes muscles on innocent muslims. as for those arab and muslim nations, won ti je dodo enu won kole so ododo. God go personally punish dem with severe possible punishment |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 10:48am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Empiree. I saw your post. That's a very sad story. I understand the mother trying cling on to the child but seriously that is selfishness. She has enjoyed and lived her own life, why hold the son down? Why stop the guy from living his own life? The guy holds the ace to everything here. I understand he may be concerned about her health issues but he can always arrange for a private nanny or care giver to be with his mum always. All he has to do is to make regular calls and visits. I understand the difference in location and cultural status . But he needs to break the circle. The mother would be hurt initially but she would heal with time. All he needs do is to explain his feelings. He needs to change environment and mentality. What would have the mother done if she had no kid? Won't she live her life? This ain't about being cruel or lacking feelings but about common sense. Wait didn't he go to school or college? What happened when he was there? |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:38pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
onegig Thanks a lot. I actually thought about nursing home or have her register for Home care service. But that was brushed aside. You know i just avoid saying things sometimes. I put blame on him. Regardless, he should stand up for himself and do what is right bcuz at some point his mother wouldn't be able to make decisions. Just dont understand him sometimes. I think your suggestion about caregiver is still the way to go. They kind of stubborn in my view. Thanks for your contribution |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 7:08pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
Empiree: onegig Does your friend actually understand "The goal of life?" |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 7:09pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
'The world stands disgraced' - Israeli shelling of school kills at least 15 www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel A Palestinian collects body parts in a classroom at the Abu Hussein UN school. Photograph: Lefteris Pitarakis/AP A damaged Classroom of the school "Washington is restocking Israel's dwindling supplies of ammunitions." -The Telegraph. Those who condemned Israeli infanticide & genocide in Gaza should also condemn those who supply the arms & ammunitions to that murderous regime. The legendary Iranian Commander of the elite AlQuds Brigades, Qassem Sulaimani, wrote a letter to Palestine, he invoked the curse of Allah upon the following: "May God curse those who have & are oppressing you...." "May God curse every oppressor who defended this criminal regime & support it, the global tyranny, America..." "May God curse whoever blocked the ways of delivering aid & helping to you & participation in the Zionist crimes...." "May God curse anyone who sees your sorrow & bitterness & with cowardly silence gives Zionist permission of killing innocent people..." God curse & destroy them all! #GazaUnderAttack |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:18pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
AlBaqir: Na him really sabi. Someone was just talking to him 3days ago (informal rehab) as someone suggested earlier. I guess God Almighty created us differently. But isnt this too complicated. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 7:26pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
Then i doubt he is ready for any solution. If he wouldn't listen to an advice, then why did he ask for it in the first place? Even if he manages to get married under that roof. The mum's daily interferance would be the killer of that relationship. Or how do you expect to focus on building his home when his mother is always in the picture 247 and needing his attention always? The only other option that might work is he transferring the care to one of his sisters. At least they are also kids of this same woman and have a responsibility of caring for her also not withstanding their marital status. If he's not open to any of this, then he should stop complaining and keep it up. He is a mummy's boy at over 50 and i don't think that would change any soon. It is that simple. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 7:34pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
Albaqir.. The israeli government officials are physco patients. Can you imagine the comment by one of their MPs? ”NATO bombed 5,000 civilians in Kosovo just because it was insulted; 27,000 Iraqi civilians were bombed during the American invasion because they posed a danger to the US; there is not a country in the world that can talk to us about morality.” - Israeli MP http://jpupdates.com/2014/07/29/european-countries-fail-protect-jews-state-israel-will/ So i can also just go on and kill 11 million people tomorrow and no one has a moral ground to criticise me just because Hitler did the same thing. Can you imagine these beasts and murderers? |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:48pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
onegig: Then i doubt he is ready for any solution. If he wouldn't listen to an advice, then why did he ask for it in the first place? The last time I checked, they avoided the madness too. He's going to have to deal with it so long as he doesnt call me in the middle of the night. Actually, at 50, nothing much to do to rescue him. The ball is in his court. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tpia1: 8:41pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
He can still marry at 50 if he wants to. He just needs to get his mum a companion or have her live with him if that's workable. He's even rich- why exactly can't he get a wife? And if he has problems approaching women, has he considered arranged marriage or asking his mum to help him find someone herself? |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:09pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
It was narrated from Sa’d that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Verbally abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (disobedience) and fighting him is Kufr.” Grade : Sahih (Darussalam) Sunan Ibn Majah English reference : Vol. 1, Book 36, Hadith 3941 Arabic reference : Book 36, Hadith 4076 |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 9:26pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
tbaba1234: It was narrated from Sa’d that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Kindly explain the hadith bro. Sharh sunan Ibn Majah will be more appreciated. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:29pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
AlBaqir: I am not qualified to explain the hadith, I take from it what is apparent. And Allah knows best. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tpia1: 9:36pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
bro, stop all this kufr thing, of all the problems in nigeria and facing nigerians today, i think kufr should be the least of your worries. when you first joined nairaland, you started out in the christian section (preaching), and nobody disturbed you or called you kufr there. In fact, you spent more time in christian section then than you did in Muslim section. If kufr was that important to you, then you would not have been so comfortable chatting with christians in christian section. Just saying, I dont know what brought about your kufr comment, but its getting a bit too much here- this is the third time i'm seeing someone refer to kufr in less than a month. lets caution ourselves, nobody knows the mind of God. if i am reading you wrong, then ignore my post. 1 Like |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 9:37pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
tbaba1234: That's why I said "sharh (commentary) sunan Ibn Majah will be appreciated". I do not want to quote several ayah of the glorious Quran or several other hadith that contradict the hadith perhaps I misinterpret the "reported saying" of the prophet (saws); hence, my asking of the sharh. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:37pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
And the above hadith is in reference to? |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:39pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
Empiree: And the above hadith is in reference to? No one, I saw it and what came to mind was the chaos in the muslim world. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:41pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
tpia1: bro, stop all this kufr thing, of all the problems in nigeria and facing nigerians today, i think kufr should be the least of your worries. Calm down, no need to get upset or worked up. No one is accusing anyone of Kufr. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:43pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
AlBaqir: Ok, if I do find any useful commentary, I will post. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:46pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
tpia1: He can still marry at 50 if he wants to. Sure he can. If you read my first post, it says he and his mom always argue when it comes to marriage. She usually ignore when he talks about it. Then they started arguing according according to him. You know it's similar to narrative by Mr. Nouman Ali Khan where a mother wants to be around her son even while married. Her son is like her retirement funds or Social Security check. She thinks that when her son is married he would have less time for her. This is just what i think is going on. But in this case it's too far. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 9:49pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
It was narrated from Ibn ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “The believer who mixes with people and bears their annoyance with patience will have a greater reward than the believer who does not mix with people and does not put up with their annoyance.” Grade : Sahih (Darussalam) Ibn Majah English reference : Vol. 1, Book 36, Hadith 4032 Arabic reference : Book 36, Hadith 4168 |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:50pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Yes, never mind bro. The hadith is correct. Have heard about it. It's famous hadith anyway. And since this is just general qoute, aint see any problem in that. It's indeed what we need to ponder over. Argument and fighting is not the way to go. Sometimes, we need to ignore trouble markers for the sake of unity. |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by yetunsbay(m): 10:00pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
Salam Alaikum I talked wit a muslimah concerning my intentns abt her but unfortunately she's engaged.Bt later I noticed I also hv clear intentn to a frnd of hers whc I let her aware concerning my mind status for easy ride BUT later on told me she has a follower also. QUESTION--------Is it Islamically ideal to walk down to her(i.e d new muslimah)& explain my thoughts or forget abt it ? I just hope d Former muslimah woudnt bin gazing at me like a womanizer.....only Allah judge by intentns. JAZAKUMULAHU KHAIRAN |
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 8:01am On Aug 01, 2014 |
yetunsbay: What makes Islam unique is the fact that there are steps and guide (divine) for every aspect of human life. In Islam, you don't just walk up to a woman and disclose your intention. Islam value and protect woman more than you can ever imagine. In Islam you need approval from her wali (parents or guardian). In turn they will talk to their daughter and allow you guys to talk. Unfortunately, no one cares about this Islamic moral standard anymore. We simply follow animalistic 'western civilization' where you can approach woman anyhow. yetunsbay: 'Morally' speaking (as per the norms of this society)she might be thinking like that. But Islamically there's absolutely nothing wrong in that. He knows best. 1 Like |
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