eduxerxes: In Summary,

(1) FG should not appoint non-doctors as chief medical director.
Is this not selfishness ? Is it only doctors that work in the hospital? why will they go on strike for this selfish
reason and suffer patients ?
(2) Only doctors should be made consultants-
other workers who work in the hospital no matter their qualification should not be made a consultant?
-Is this not the height of wickedness and selfishness by doctors?
So if a staff of the hospital have Ph.D, he should not be a consultant when their mates working at other places are consultants ?
(3)Only doctors should be made directors---
Ladies and gentlemen, the law says anyone on level 15 is a director in the civil service--- so why will doctors say that only them should be made directors and other workers who
rise to level 15 should not be made a
directors ?
(4)Level skipping---they want doctors to also skip levels like other- now these bunch of murderers called doctors wants to enjoy wђã†̥ others are enjoying but they dont want
others to enjoy what they are enjoying----
it is based on these reasons & more that they went on strike-----
Check out more here:

www.nairaland.com/1795086/nma-strike-doctors-wicked-must

phantomm: @ the bolded. i hope you know that radiographers are the ones who 'photograph' the patients.the radiologists who are the doctors in that department interprete the results..
in the labs ,the lab technologists do the bench work or test the samples.the onus still lies on the pathologist who is a doctor to ratify the results.
my brother these allied professionals are attaching undue importance to themselves.they are not that important.

heykims: Enough of all these rantings, JOHESU if u re so sure of ursef nd d relevance of ur discipline, advocate for d privatization of the entire health sector.
Let everything be privatized nd everybody in d health sector knows where he/she belongs..

eduxerxes: In Summary,

(1) FG should not appoint non-doctors as chief medical director.
Is this not selfishness ? Is it only doctors that work in the hospital? why will they go on strike for this selfish
reason and suffer patients ?
(2) Only doctors should be made consultants-
other workers who work in the hospital no matter their qualification should not be made a consultant?
-Is this not the height of wickedness and selfishness by doctors?
So if a staff of the hospital have Ph.D, he should not be a consultant when their mates working at other places are consultants ?
(3)Only doctors should be made directors---
Ladies and gentlemen, the law says anyone on level 15 is a director in the civil service--- so why will doctors say that only them should be made directors and other workers who
rise to level 15 should not be made a
directors ?
(4)Level skipping---they want doctors to also skip levels like other- now these bunch of murderers called doctors wants to enjoy wђã†̥ others are enjoying but they dont want
others to enjoy what they are enjoying----
it is based on these reasons & more that they went on strike-----
Check out more here:

www.nairaland.com/1795086/nma-strike-doctors-wicked-must

kennylawal: I swear all una never sick, na why u dey run mouth. If you wife wan born, carry am go lap radiology, physiotherapy or wetin u call am. All you hypocrites. If all johesu drop there work, doctors will do them, can they do doctors job. A doctor would hav done a posting in all those johesu fields as student too. they are working, respect. But the doctor and sirgeon are the most important experts in patient care. If you wana be like a doctor too, go take a jamb form and see that medical school no be beans

Drphemmy4u: well said.

Acidosis:

You are an illiterate.

A University Bursar/Accountant, Reigistrar and Librarian all belong to NASU.
They are bosses in their fields already..

Lol, like an average "literate" Nigerian who thinks NASU is all about gate keepers, carpenters etc

Acidosis:

Tell this to "graduates" who do not know their rights from wrongs

For some of us who are highly learned we understand the entire process

By the way, why do you keep 'shouting' pathologists? How many Nigerian hospitals employ pathologists?

Can a pathologist function without those you condemn so much?
Lol

This aint the issue anyway, why should you and your allied block the progress of others? Insecurity? lol

Most Public offices and Ministries are headed by BSc/MSc holders (i.e Bachelors & Masters). abi una carry wetin pass bachelors?

Why do you keep giving the public wrong impression about Lab guys? Haven't you seen Lab scientist and even technologists with Masters degrees, PhDs?

You think every other person on Lab coat (who isn't a medic) schooled in Health Tech?


Our President is truly weak; people like you should be out of the hospital...

amedave: no body is against there growth, the issue is a medical team should be headed by a Doctor, note doctor's are not called consultant because of PhD only, do you know that most teaching hospitals don't have pharmacy student? how do you expect a pharmacist to head in that situation?? pls let these people tell us the truth, even in advance country how many times have u heard a pharmacist is heading an operation/surgery team. OK doctor done strike let them fill the void if they can

kennylawal: I swear all una never sick, na why u dey run mouth. If you wife wan born, carry am go lap radiology, physiotherapy or wetin u call am. All you hypocrites. If all johesu drop there work, doctors will do them, can they do doctors job. A doctor would hav done a posting in all those johesu fields as student too. they are working, respect. But the doctor and sirgeon are the most important experts in patient care. If you wana be like a doctor too, go take a jamb form and see that medical school no be beans

pfijacobs: sorry o bros but from ur comment I tink u are either;
1. An illiterate or
2. High on cheap Sk
Listen to urself... A doctor knowing everytin? We're else do u c dat oda dan nigeria and its stewpid folks like u dat want nigeria to b @ par wit oda great nations.. Fool...
And again ur last statement is so hilarious... We're do u tink physios, dentists, radiographers are trained? Dust bin? No my friend d same. Medical skul dat ur illiterate mind tinks is almighty... Stop talking wen intellectuals are... Women sweep d bakyard wen MEN av a meeting...

Acidosis:

and when the Pharmacists stop the supply of drugs... I'm sure your privatisation will enable you treat your patient with stethoscope.


Failure to acknowledge the fields of other health workers will only lead to a total collapse of the system.

We the general public await the privatisation.

Jummy mine: i am a surgeon, and sincerely i am yet to meet a doctor who says the others who workin the health system are not important. the situation in nigeria is simply pathetic. we have developed a culture of not knowing our places, simply and short!
nowhere except nigeria does a patient call the nurse a doctor and she/he will not correct the patient!
its just like a traditional birth attendant that will not admit beijg diffrent from a nurse.
i workmin ife where some 8f he leaders, nay, creators of this johesu come from and know the way they run their issues. one of these creators even tried to get into amedical program in ghana!
The creation of johesu itself shows how critically essential the individual groups who formed it are.
they dare not strike alone, as nobodynwill know anything is happening, except perhaps the nurses. the physios, and this is not putting anydbody down, led by one of the national johesu hotheads, went on strike in ifefor 3 and a half months. even the ortho dept was running without hitches.
the pharmacists once tried it too, people just continued gtting their drugs fro outside as they used to do even when they were around.
As for the nurses, can anyone here actually claim honestly that serving food, serving drugs, geting the vital signs, makjng the beds and giving the patients a good psychological state are not doable by others? The nurses once went on strike for four months when i was in part 4. We got medical students and the relatives to fill in for the nurses. According to the study of the morbidiy and mortality that was carried out at ghe time, there was no diffrence! That is why when the nursesstrike, they have to lock up the equipment.
As for the kab guys, well, who wouldnt say yhey are essential? They however, and i know most of them know this, hopefully, are being largely replaced by automated systems. a million full blood counts can be run over a year by four lab guys! if automated systems are allowed (they obstruct its purchase and use in govt settings), at least three quarters of hem in the govt establishments wil be out of a job! note that i run e and u and abgs on my icu patients without seing any lab guy.
ALL I HAVE WRITTEN IS NOT WALLAHI TO DENIGRATE ANYBODY, but to point out why people should know their limits and act within it.

THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO GANG UP TOGETHER TO FIGHT THE DOCTORS ITSELF HAS SHOWN

chronique: Everything and every sector in this country has been politicized. Nigeria is just getting messed up daily cos almost everybody is selfish and wants to place his/her request far above every other person's own irrespective of whether it makes sense or not.

wallex1983: Hmmmm,

Still waiting for when NASU and other admin staff of Nigerian universities will come up to say they want to start becoming Professors so that they can become VC and DVC. Surely if Johesu scales through, NASU will follow suite.

Gobe go come start Part 2

Acidosis:

and when the Pharmacists stop the supply of drugs... I'm sure your privatisation will enable you treat your patient with stethoscope.


Failure to acknowledge the fields of other health workers will only lead to a total collapse of the system.

We the general public await the privatisation.

FD_enigma: An Analysis of JOHESU (continued):

Pharmacists:

These professionals are university trained. Unfortunately, in the government sector, their role appears to have been largely limited to procuring, stocking and dispensing of medications. Occasional attempts to involve themselves in patient care is often tainted by the mutual suspicion between them and the clinician (doctor) directly responsible for the patients.
The Pharm.D (Doctor of Pharmacy) programme is currently the standard in the USA but is under some controversy in Nigeria as other university academics (excluding medical doctors) are unhappy by what appears to be a shortcut to a Ph.D equivalent.
Some pharmacists want(ed) to be medical doctors. In some pharmacies, they are already masquerading as doctors.
Some are quite satisfied being what they always dreamt of.