cococandy:
4. Would you agree with me that just because we cannot
see something with our eyes—such as our mind, gravity,
magnetism, the wind—that does not mean it doesn’t
exist?

cococandy: Here are some frequently asked questions for atheists.
Anyone feel free to pick any number and explain to me what they think.

1. Are you absolutely sure there is no God? If not, then is it not possible that there is a God? And if it is possible that God exists, then can you think of any reason that would keep you from wanting to look at the evidence?

2. Would you agree that intelligently designed things call for an intelligent designer of them? If so, then would you agree that evidence for intelligent design in the universe would be evidence for a designer of the universe?

3. Would you agree that nothing cannot produce something? If so, then if the universe did not exist but then came to exist, wouldn’t this be evidence of a cause beyond the universe?

4. Would you agree with me that just because we cannot see something with our eyes—such as our mind, gravity, magnetism, the wind—that does not mean it doesn’t exist?

5. Would you also agree that just because we cannot see God with our eyes does not necessarily mean He does?

10. Is there anything wrong anywhere? If so, how can we know unless there is a moral law?

Apatheist:
I'm sorry if I was getting argumentative..

it's alright

Religion says god is perfect.
How can you believe in a god and not believe in religion?

well I like to think I'm honest. So honestly I understand religion to be man's quest to understand God.like I told you before,I'm christain because I was born christain. I may disagree with the principles and teachings of other religions(and I do)but in the depth of my heart,I've never seen other religions as inferior. I don't have the if-you-don't-believe-in-jesus-you're-going-to-hell mindset.
You see I'm aware people once believed in and worshipped Zeus who is a myth today but very real as of then. It is also possible that 3000yrs from now, Jehovah and Allah will be myths taught in schools as the gods of ancient people and then they might laugh at our funny beliefs and wonder how human beings could have reasoned the way we did.
what does that say about religion? It just shows that religion is dynamic and as long as the human race exists,we will not rest in our quest to discover and truly explain God. It is not counter-intuitive

That is counter-intuitive.
I believe there can be a creator- or creators- but is none of the religious ones.
.
ok then. But that means You're not atheist in the real sense of it. Thanks for your time

Again, I apologize if it seems I am argumentative.

Apatheist:
Logicboy, I see you.

cococandy:

UrbanMystique: I'm not logicboy.

Apatheist:
Sorry. My bad.

Apatheist:
Yes, science evil.
You'd rather think menstruation makes a woman unclean because the Bible says so.
Or leprosy is incurable because the Bible says so.
Or the general life expectancy to reduce.
Or for there to be no computers, no phones, no Internet.
Or for us to be living in the stone age.

See the reasoning of black people.?
Little wonder we are behind the world.

If you believe science is evil, stop using things made with science, break your phone, burn your house, tear your clothes.
Put on loin clothes, tend goats and live in mud houses like your ancestors.

You shall not be missed. The IQ of the people on the Internet will increase.

urheme:
So tell me,
How does internet, computers, phones and all your stupid robotic toys and mechanical gadget elongate a man's life on earth?

How does tending goat and living in mud houses shortens a man's life, when our acestors lived longer than the computer age man.

What is so special about the life you are living now?
You think being on nairaland forum make you any civilised? Keep wallowing in computer animation

urheme:



Point of correction, BUSHman.
I am not a black man

Black woman then.

Your heart is filled with anger and i wonder why,
You have made your submissions, bravo!!

[quote] So tell me,
How does internet, computers, phones and all your stupid robotic toys and mechanical gadget elongate a man's life on earth?

You are kidding, right?
have you ever been to the hospital in a developed country?
If they are stupid, why do you keep using them?

[quote[How does tending goat and living in mud houses shortens a man's life, when our acestors lived longer than the computer age man.

What is so special about the life you are living now?
You think being on nairaland forum make you any civilised? Keep wallowing in computer animation

cococandy: @ qstar. Convincing points you put up there.

But I don't agree with the complexity being confused for intelligence part. That's simply not true.

qstar:

Left to people like you. We would still have been in the stone age.
Left to people like you, we would still have been believing that the earth is the centre of the universe(geocentrism), we would still have been believing that the Solar eclipse is due to an intercourse between the Sun-god and Luna.

Evolution is real. You either evolve with us or quit this universe.

Now, stop derailing the thread, stick to OP.

You mean the failed prophecies?
Or do you mean Pastor Chris' staged "healing miracles"?


[quote]For instance, a MOG calling someone he has never met before and telling him/her what was unknown to anyother person.

Does the supernatural exist?

masonkz: I'm dangling between Agnosticism and Theism. When I'm done reading and researching the bible. I'll know where I fall in

For now, Christians have ABSOLUTELY no answer to some questions I've raised, especially the thread I opened prior to the whole NL crashing saga. The responses would have helped a great deal, but alas, it was avoided. lol

cococandy: You're agnostic means you're open to conviction just like seun.
What kind of proof will convince you?

I agree too that religion is man made.

kolawaxxy: Well... To the atheists, how do you explain the wonders people like T.B Joshua perform?

For instance, a MOG calling someone he has never met before and telling him/her what was unknown to anyother person.

Does the supernatural exist?

qstar:

You need to define, with illustration, what you mean by intelligence.

If i can travel back 900yrs backwards and show people my Android phone, Laptop, grenade, nuclear weapons, internet and telecommunication services, they'd probably start worshipping me as God, or a son of the gods.

A religionists once told me that because the anatomy of the brain is so complex currently, it proves that a God exists.

Now, is that what you call intelligence? and has such intelligence demanded that we worship it?

cococandy:

Ok I get what you mean by intelligence here. No that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about awareness,purpose and obvious intention in the characteristics of created things.
Not because the brain has a billion neurons do I see it as a work intelligence.
No. But because it was clearly designed for a purpose.did all those parts know by themselves to come together and work together for a united purpose just out of the blues? It seems improbable to me.
Such things to me cannot have come out of a mindless event

urheme: Look outside the walls of religion, you will find the proves you are looking for.

simdam500: and i think that why they've gathered here together to look outside every religion... The only tin i think they need again is look outside SCIENCE for once

simdam500: and i think that why they've gathered here together to look outside every religion... The only tin i think they need again is look outside SCIENCE for once

Apatheist:
How can you look outside science?

Apatheist:
How can you look outside science?

qstar:

This guy, you like argument o.

urheme: @apatheist


People still die in your computer age hospital, where is dora, kafee etc and sorry about your grand mother eating all her children, pigs do too.

I love the benefit of science no doubt but the point is it does not prove the non existence of God, it will still kill me anyway so why should i capitalize on it

By telling ur self that science is not life, rather it is bullshit

Seun: Ok, what should we discuss?

Emmaomotob: The existence of magic is the best proof of God's existence,can big bang also prove the beginning of magic.
SEUN WATCH LEST YOU FALL COS YOU MIGHT NEVER RISE AGAIN.