jpphilips:

Ironically, the ones that have lost count marry faster

nellyelitz: That's why i no fit go out with me church member.

jpphilips:


@njoku's boy, I will like to speak with Njoku the father, guess he is only the sane mind who really understood the post Njoku's boy quoted, nevertheless, tell the boy that there are 1 million reasons why men marry and love is the least on the profile.
If the majority of men today, have wives who contribute to the upkeep of the family, can they all file out and tell us they married those women out of genuine love?
would they have married those women should they be jobless?
she must be pretty, tall, working, intelligent, graduate, good home with less baggage, the last people who married for love were women, Men marry you because you fit a profile, most of these guys here are talking nonsense, most of them married for the same reason but too ashamed to admit it.

Now for the Virgins, I have one simple test for you, go to a social network put up a profile with a list thus:

I am a virgin
I come from a polygamous family of 17children, I am number 12
I don't believe in God
I dropped out of SS2 due to financial reasons
I am still looking for a job

put up a picture of a person with the following features;

short
Dark
very ugly like a bat,

If any reasonable man says hello and wants to meet you and that your virginity, know that he really needs you for rituals.

I repeat, men marry for different reasons, love and virginity is at the ebb, I will only make sense to married men, bachelors please don't quote

thank you!!

jpphilips:


@njoku's boy, I will like to speak with Njoku the father, guess he is only the sane mind who really understood the post Njoku's boy quoted, nevertheless, tell the boy that there are 1 million reasons why men marry and love is the least on the profile.
If the majority of men today, have wives who contribute to the upkeep of the family, can they all file out and tell us they married those women out of genuine love?
would they have married those women should they be jobless?
she must be pretty, tall, working, intelligent, graduate, good home with less baggage, the last people who married for love were women, Men marry you because you fit a profile, most of these guys here are talking nonsense, most of them married for the same reason but too ashamed to admit it.

Now for the Virgins, I have one simple test for you, go to a social network put up a profile with a list thus:

I am a virgin
I come from a polygamous family of 17children, I am number 12
I don't believe in God
I dropped out of SS2 due to financial reasons
I am still looking for a job

put up a picture of a person with the following features;

short
Dark
very ugly like a bat,

If any reasonable man says hello and wants to meet you and that your virginity, know that he really needs you for rituals.

I repeat, men marry for different reasons, love and virginity is at the ebb, I will only make sense to married men, bachelors please don't quote

thank you!!

andromida:

Hehehhhehhhehhe

Sweetlemon:

He hit the nail on the head, brutally!

jpphilips:

Con ladies

jpphilips:

teeowl: Personally I feel a lot of women virgins are like a very poor man that is humble. Get it... he is humble because he has nothing to be proud about. In a similar manner with so many female virgins (not all of them), they are virgins simply because they are not sexually attractive and no man is excited about sleeping with them... in that case the whole virgin thing seems like a joke (she is a virgin simply because most men don't want to sleep with her and not because she rejected the s.ex.ua.l advances of so many men).

Sweetlemon:

I strongly disagree. I believe that no matter how unattractive a girl is, one guy somewhere is ready to sleep with her, make her a side chick, date her or even marry her. The marriage part might be a bit tough but I believe some guy somewhere must have hit on her.

Virgins should remain virgins until they are ready to let it go. And I strongly recommend it should be with someone they can marry.

teeowl: Yes one guy somewhere is ready to sleep with her... but will he man up and go and meet her? Will she be approachable when he sees her? how long will it take for him to make the approach (before we know it she is 30 and still a virgin)? It takes longer time... a lot longer time for a plain/boring/unattractive girl to find herself in the right position to find a guy that SHE LIKES (she has to like him also) that would ask her out and be aggressive enough to invite her home (or any where private) and make the move to have sex.... and also beat her last second resistance (when a guy gets a girl to a room alone, she always put up a last minute resistant and if a guy is not experienced he would just give up when he should calmly push forward and make the sex act happen - because she wants it too!).

What am I saying, the more sexually attractive a girl is, the more a guy would be excited to make the sex act happen at all cost, the more plain/boring/unattractive she is the more she has to wait a longer time (before she knows she is still a virgin at 30). A lot of plain/boring/unattractive girls dont have an active social life and they don't meet new guys all the time, which is another problem on its own in a person's dating life (scarcity mentality sets in)...

A lot of guys are chickens when it comes to making the sex act happen... I can imagine a few occasion when I was much younger and I invited girls over to my apartment and I was scared to make the approach and later on I never had the chance to make it happen - and guess what? There are so many guys that are still chickens and get scared of making the sex act happen. The more attractive a girl is the more options she would have - if a guy messes up, there would still be others willing to make it happen for her (women also get ho.rn.y like us and when a sexually attractive girl has a number of guys chasing her for sex, guess what anytime she is in need of some straping, she can always make a booty call to the most attractive of her chasers).

You need to understand that guys are not goats... we also go with what we see to get us s.exu.all.y excited. Seriously if I see a girl with a big yansh (or big bobbies) wearing a sexy dress (I dont mean prostitute dressing) I am much more sexually excited and more aggressive to make the sex happen and strap her good than when I see a plain/boring/unattractive lady. So some ladies are still virgins because the right temptation has not come for a long time all because they are plain/boring/unattractive and dont really excite the majority of the male population to purse sex aggressively! Yes plain/boring/unattractive girls would still get sex, but it takes a longer time (till she is in her mid or late twenties) to get guys that are aggressive enough to make it happen.

Sweetlemon, I hope you get my point some ladies just don't excite the majority of the heterosexual male population to purse sex aggressively - and that in my own opinion is one of the major reason why some ladies are still virgins in their mid - late 20s!

aflyingbird: there r many attractive girls out dere who r still virgins.

aflyingbird: being a virgin has notin to do with whether a girl is attractive or not.

aflyingbird: at d same time, not every girl (attractive or not) gives in to men chasin after dem for sex. some girls make up their minds 2 wait for marriage n it doesn't matter wat a man says, she will stick to her views. might b hard to believe but girls like dis do exist

aflyingbird: sweet talk her into sleeping with him,

aflyingbird: there r many attractive girls out dere who r still virgins. being a virgin has notin to do with whether a girl is attractive or not. a guy who's only after sex can lie n tell her she's d prettiest thang in d world, sweet talk her into sleeping with him, then dumps her after gettin wat he wants. so being a virgin has notin 2 do with attractiveness cuz even an unattractive girl can get sex. at d same time, not every girl (attractive or not) gives in to men chasin after dem for sex. some girls make up their minds 2 wait for marriage n it doesn't matter wat a man says, she will stick to her views. might b hard to believe but girls like dis do exist

tashanja: @OP:
I must say, I am truly impressed by your new found maturity in both your posts and in the manner you handle responses ( good and bad) without it degenerating into a battle of wills - where your opinions must be sacrosanct.
You have definitely come a long way from those days of subjectivity (I recall your thread about some guy and a bed or something and of course your famous goodbye) to being a more objective nicer grounded person.
I also recall you were physically very beautiful from the outside, hope you still are (can't judge since you've taken down your profile picture) but judging from your more recent posts I have to say you are now even more beautiful from the inside; and certainly a wife material, your bf or hubby should be quite happy.
@Topic:
I concur, especially about the issue of sex before marriage.
For example, I once had a fiance' who actually toasted me into the relationship and also had sex by our second date; but never for once did it even cross my mind to consider her less for that than any other I have dated and considered seriously for marriage.
Yes, in the long run who ever you end up settling down with and remain happily in marriage would depend on the strength of your mutual love for one another rather than any other superficial consideration.

cutiemoi:


That's the lie people tell themselves.

soonest:
U go about quoting everybody in this thread. The person my post was meant for took it in good faith. Now if u do hate virgins this passionately u don't go about singing it to high heavens. It's ur life,make ur choice. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion n there's nothing u will say that will change that.

teeowl: Personally I feel a lot of women virgins are like a very poor man that is humble. Get it... he is humble because he has nothing to be proud about. In a similar manner with so many female virgins (not all of them), they are virgins simply because they are not sexually attractive and no man is excited about sleeping with them... in that case the whole virgin thing seems like a joke (she is a virgin simply because most men don't want to sleep with her and not because she rejected the s.ex.ua.l advances of so many men).

Sweetlemon:

I strongly disagree. I believe that no matter how unattractive a girl is, one guy somewhere is ready to sleep with her, make her a side chick, date her or even marry her. The marriage part might be a bit tough but I believe some guy somewhere must have hit on her.

Virgins should remain virgins until they are ready to let it go. And I strongly recommend it should be with someone they can marry.

jpphilips:



I can confidently tell you that 80% of poor men out there are not finding relationships funny, it is either they are attracting married women, ugly bats and prostitutes

jpphilips:

If you have a fiancee who prioritized your virginity above other factors considered in marriage, you are about to marry a f00l, but as a child I don't expect you to know that.

jpphilips:

The bold part of your post was no where, insinuated in any of my posts, for you to have misconstrued that fact, renders you unworthy for a discourse. I don't care how old you are but I can objectively tell you that I take it personal when mentally unfit people quote my comments.

jpphilips:


A woman who is not attractive knows that she is being used, the feeling of being used alone is not worth the sex, reason she holds dear her virginity. It takes two to tango, since women don't really pick men, the probability of her ugliness attracting a competitive male is very slim for whatever social reasons.
It will definitely take time, also remember that an unattractive girl is programmed to believe she is pretty (self confidence matters) so she equally aims very high, so when i see an unattractive virgin, I don't expect any less, if she decides to give it out, there is a 95% chance she will give it to the wrong guy.

There are girls who have a very poor background, their virginity is basically sacrificed on the alter of survival, prolly a close relative who promised her school fees or even feeding, should they be blamed too? never mind the social stigma that comes with r@pe, I am sure most of us have no idea they may be virgins too.

Speaking of which, every sane man needs peace, a manner less girl with attitude problem wont cut it virgin or not, nobody can trade marriage for anything short of love, companionship and procreation.

There are gals out there who may not be rich but their family is strategically positioned to turn a man's life around, if a struggling man is involved, will you ignore such a lady (especially if she really loves you) and run after a virgin loser without a surname? mere discussing with her oozes poverty of astronomical distinction?

Women should know, that virginity is just a bonus to the real value they are meant to add to themselves because when the real decision of who becomes the wifey comes to the table, believe me, virginity becomes inconsequential.

It so happens in a man's world, how many of you gals here who have access to the internet have slept with a barrow pusher? oh! you think they are not blessed with functional "letter I"?

they do but they fall below your social class as such does not deserve your sex, Nigerian gals don't give sympathy fvck, most men actually have the privilege of dating women they really want in life when they become socially competitive.

I can confidently tell you that 80% of poor men out there are not finding relationships funny, it is either they are attracting married women, ugly bats and prostitutes, the moment they become competitive, their kinda girl surfaces, lol from where exactly?
How many of us married our college sweethearts?? anybody? well, the gals said they have grown, while it was obvious they moved higher to more competitive men.

I refuse to accept that amidst our environmental challenges, that virginity is the key that opens the door of marriage, BTW my former acct officer is a virgin at 37, I only replied "you should be" when I heard, considering other social circumstances that need not to be mentioned.

I am humbled when I see very exposed, enlightened and competitive virgins, a loser is a loser, virgin or not.

jpphilips:

If you have a fiancee who prioritized your virginity above other factors considered in marriage, you are about to marry a f00l, but as a child I don't expect you to know that.

princesa:
They are all messing with my head. The relationship talks, the articles, the books, the advices, all of it! Messing with my head!
I don't know who to follow anymore. What do these men really want? This is the phase where I say, I give up.