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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 8:34am On Jul 19, 2014
ijoseda:

There is a very big difference between the college of medicine and the university teaching hospital!
It still boils down to my question as to if pharmacists are employed as consultants in universities..
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by evanscheck(m): 8:34am On Jul 19, 2014
Pennywisdom, lets nt quarrel today.how are u and everything.hope u great. Cant u rest on dis issue.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 9:08am On Jul 19, 2014
ephemm:

NONSENSE!!!
All these "educated" illiterate trading accusations becos one professional heads another institution, why don't U go on strike becos a "shoeless" school teacher head Ur country, when the country filled with mad men & women like U should be headed by a psychiatrist?
Mtcheeww
bro, I never said PSN should go on strike.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 9:24am On Jul 19, 2014
Chartey: Please let me warn you. The other day I didn't want to say much. Stop acting like you know me because you don't. If you've spent so much time on threads about Medicine since 2010, and you're a Pharmacy student, then I can guess the sort of regret and sense of 'what could have been' you have. It's not too late to drop out of your program and get into medical school. If you know so much about me, you'll at least know that's what I did.
as at 2010, all( Anatomy, Medical Lab Sci, Medicine, Nursing Science, Pharmaceutical Science, Physiology, Radiology e.t.c ) were using one thread.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by igboboy3(m): 9:28am On Jul 19, 2014
The ACT requires that the individual have a good knowledge of Pharmacy and even though Pharmacology is not Pharmacy, you can't deny they are not mutually inexclusive.
If Paul Orhii didn't have a Pharmacology degree, it would be a different matter.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 9:28am On Jul 19, 2014
elobyobi:

N0 lie, management is an integral part of Community Medicine/ Public Health. MOney, Manpower, Material, ring any bells?
really?
.
Pls, tell me more abt it.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by elobyobi: 10:48am On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
really?
.
Pls, tell me more abt it.

Nah, I n0 be lecturer, n0 vex
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by decode55(m): 11:38am On Jul 19, 2014
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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Pennywise(m): 11:52am On Jul 19, 2014
okparaugo:

I am not a pharmacist neither do I trade drugs. Smh

Mind yah business. Moreover patent medicine dealers are rich men if educated..

Its a lieee. You are a pharmacist. Take pride in your profession. Smh.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Chartey(m): 12:14pm On Jul 19, 2014
sisiafrika: I made the best choice. Pharmacy is the best reason why I attack any antagonist. You failed out of Medicine then was pushed to anatomy. Nah nah nah, we are different. Face your work, graduate first and get sense before spewing unreasonable thoughts. Food technologist even would do better than the so called 'doctor' in NAFDAC. Wonder what a consultant microbiologist with bias in medical micro. has got to do with the agency. I don't hate the game but the players in majority are disgusting. Face your MB.
Well, since you've given yourself the job of chronicling my life, be good at it. At least when I die, I can rest assured that my wonderful success story would be told without a detail left out, by someone who loathed me publicly and loved me secretly.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Chartey(m): 12:17pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
as at 2010, all( Anatomy, Medical Lab Sci, Medicine, Nursing Science, Pharmaceutical Science, Physiology, Radiology e.t.c ) were using one thread.
Ok, thank you. That babe own don tire me. If she wants to be in my life, she can just send me a pm, then we take it from there.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Pennywise(m): 12:22pm On Jul 19, 2014
The NMA is unreasonable on many fronts not least of all is their death grip on hospital administration in the country. Medical administration is evolving worldwide and Nigeria has to evolve with it. A four year specialist course in Medicine in no way equips an individual with the capacity to run a multi-billion naira health facility. If these hospitals were run as a 'going concern' they would have since been dead.

But then again if the NMA folds its hand and does nothing, Johesu, PSN, Nurses and ward orderlies will take over the administration of these hospitals when they produce their own consultants. The solution therefore is for the owners of these hospitals (govt) to allow competent and properly trained management professionals to assume admin roles or put up these hospitals for sale and concentrate on regulatory function and maintenance of standards.

This battle of attrition between NMA and Johesu is strangulating the health sector. Some people are being over paid at the expense of others.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 1:28pm On Jul 19, 2014
Chartey: Ok, thank you. That babe own don tire me. If she wants to be in my life, she can just send me a pm, then we take it from there.
hmm! In Pharmacy this' called Pharmacotoasting.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by emedy(m): 1:31pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
hmm! In Pharmacy this' called Pharmacotoasting.
u dy come PANS Convention??
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 2:14pm On Jul 19, 2014
emedy: u dy come PANS Convention??
dnt tink so o.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by adeoladrg(m): 2:25pm On Jul 19, 2014
Pennywise: The NMA is unreasonable on many fronts not least of all is their death grip on hospital administration in the country. Medical administration is evolving worldwide and Nigeria has to evolve with it. A four year specialist course in Medicine in no way equips an individual with the capacity to run a multi-billion naira health facility. If these hospitals were run as a 'going concern' they would have since been dead.

But then again if the NMA folds its hand and does nothing, Johesu, PSN, Nurses and ward orderlies will take over the administration of these hospitals when they produce their own consultants. The solution therefore is for the owners of these hospitals (govt) to allow competent and properly trained management professionals to assume admin roles or put up these hospitals for sale and concentrate on regulatory function and maintenance of standards.

This battle of attrition between NMA and Johesu is strangulating the health sector. Some people are being over paid at the expense of others.

My friend grin grin
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by drered(m): 3:30pm On Jul 19, 2014
igboboy3: The ACT requires that the individual have a good knowledge of Pharmacy and even though Pharmacology is not Pharmacy, you can't deny they are not mutually inexclusive.
If Paul Orhii didn't have a Pharmacology degree, it would be a different matter.
Going by your logic a pharmacist being appointed as CMD should be a non issue and a pharmacist can also be president of NMA since the pharmacists and doctor's knowledge is not mutually in exclusive yeah?

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by emedy(m): 3:35pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
dnt tink so o.
Lemme tell Sowi in advance for what u'll miss. tongue
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Chartey(m): 3:50pm On Jul 19, 2014
Pennywise: The NMA is unreasonable on many fronts not least of all is their death grip on hospital administration in the country. Medical administration is evolving worldwide and Nigeria has to evolve with it. A four year specialist course in Medicine in no way equips an individual with the capacity to run a multi-billion naira health facility. If these hospitals were run as a 'going concern' they would have since been dead.

But then again if the NMA folds its hand and does nothing, Johesu, PSN, Nurses and ward orderlies will take over the administration of these hospitals when they produce their own consultants. The solution therefore is for the owners of these hospitals (govt) to allow competent and properly trained management professionals to assume admin roles or put up these hospitals for sale and concentrate on regulatory function and maintenance of standards.


This battle of attrition between NMA and Johesu is strangulating the health sector. Some people are being over paid at the expense of others.
This is an ideally great solution, and it's what NMA wants in the long-term. The problem however is, we lack a comprehensive health insurance system, therefore patients won't be able to afford proper healthcare.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Chartey(m): 3:52pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
hmm! In Pharmacy this' called Pharmacotoasting.
Where in Kd are you pls?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 4:07pm On Jul 19, 2014
Chartey: Where in Kd are you pls?
Romi. Any prob.?
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Samgreguc(m): 4:11pm On Jul 19, 2014
emedy: Lemme tell Sowi in advance for what u'll miss. tongue
cry
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Pennywise(m): 4:20pm On Jul 19, 2014
Chartey: This is an ideally great solution, and it's what NMA wants in the long-term. The problem however is, we lack a comprehensive health insurance system, therefore patients won't be able to afford proper healthcare.

Try and understand what I am saying. You can have a well regulated medical practice environment without health insurance. By this I mean the government should ensure acceptable minimum standards in healthcare delivery by providers. Government should feck off and leave actual provision to private entrepeneurship.

This way Nigeria can boast of bigger and better managed hospitals without bickering among professionals. If there is any brain drain it will be from without into the country. Unnecessary titles become archaic and spurious academic programmes sponsored by unions will be extinguished. Real professionals whether doctors, pharmacists,nurses etc will be better paid on account of the value they bring, while leeches contributing nothing to the system are easily identified and separated from the rest.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by sisiafrika(f): 7:43pm On Jul 19, 2014
Chartey: Well, since you've given yourself the job of chronicling my life, be good at it. At least when I die, I can rest assured that my wonderful success story would be told without a detail left out, by someone who loathed me publicly and loved me secretly.
kEep the fantacy on. Love indeed. Yago jare!
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by sisiafrika(f): 7:50pm On Jul 19, 2014
drered: Going by your logic a pharmacist being appointed as CMD should be a non issue and a pharmacist can also be president of NMA since the pharmacists and doctor's knowledge is not mutually in exclusive yeah?
ehn? Igboboy, where are u
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Chartey(m): 8:44pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
Romi. Any prob.?
No. KASU? I'm in Zaria.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by damola14(m): 11:04pm On Jul 19, 2014
Absolutely nothing would have happened , if pharmacist goes on strike in Nigeria after all they only sell drugs and dispense drugs which emeka does perfectly .
Samgreguc:
and if they do what's bad?
If u want to know if it has been done anywhere use the google.
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Simple put, our NMA isn't doing well. Imagine what could have happened if the Pharmacist went on strike.

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by damola14(m): 11:09pm On Jul 19, 2014
Then effortlessly the stores will be commercialise which is a dream come true for the administrators meaning more money
drered: I'd rather blame PCN than blame you.. If things were the way it should be. Any strike effected by pharmacists would be comprehensive.. Lock down in hospital pharmacies likewise community and industry. Then we'd see how much impact would be felt.. Lol. Common hatred? This is just a comeback from repression that has gone on for so many years. The tides have changed..
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by damola14(m): 11:15pm On Jul 19, 2014
Be reminded to extend your change to world health Organization , gush it only in Nigeria all this none sense happens
adeoladrg: Smh

Before you write on any issue I'd advice that you
make proper research into the subject matter. One
thing you must realise is that the only constant
thing in life is change and when. In today's
medical world due to the ever growing health
challenges and nEed for better care other
professionals in the health sector don't just stop at
getting first degrees, they are specializing in
different areas in their chosen fields to better eqyip
them do peform their fxn better. All this is geared
towards better patients care. Unfortunately
Nigerian Drs see it as a threat to them because
they feel if others are granted consultancy rights
they will come to their level. There is no point
disputing the fact that Drs are leaders in the health
care team. The mark of a true leader is to do your
job and ensure that ur team mates also do theirs.
They cannot do so if they are nor trained to.
Nigerian Drs should come down from their
egocentric world and emulate what other countries
are doing then we would be the better for it. I'll
ask why is it that they are always quick to go on
strike with any liTtle misunderstanding? Why can't
they try every other possible means b4 resrting to
strike?

what JOHESU is
demanding for Is not out of place but it is
happening all over the world. As far as I'm
concerned this matter is not worth the lives that
have been lost and are still being lost everyday due
to this strike.
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Cmanforall: 11:46pm On Jul 19, 2014
Samgreguc:
where is the beef in his post.

Then read this

nouveaux: NMA is a joke. A pharmacist is a business man, an adminatrator. The rigorous curriculum bestowed that on him. With administrative pharmacy and pharmacoeconomics, you can't go wrong with handing your managerial assignments to a pharmacist. If pharmacology was pharmacy, then pigs would fly. Guess a degree in pharmacy, law, public health, and management would allow the 'doctors' be at peace with a pharmacist being the Minister of Health or the CMD? Its okay, so far its on their side, but foul if otherwise. The heat is on!

He said '[/quote]If Pharmacology was Pharmacy, then pigs would fly[/quote]'

Pharmacology is a 4-5yr course in nigerian universities. His statement reflects that hatred Pharmacists have for the pharmacologist, especially if they should be working together in any establishment.
Pharmacologists here can attest to that.....
No be to just fight Doctors, let them resolve their internal wickedness....
Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Nobody: 12:10am On Jul 20, 2014
Cmanforall:

Then read this



He said 'If Pharmacology was Pharmacy, then pigs would fly'

Pharmacology is a 4-5yr course in nigerian universities. His statement reflects that hatred Pharmacists have for the pharmacologist, especially if they should be working together in any establishment.
Pharmacologists here can attest to that.....
No be to just fight Doctors, let them resolve their internal wickedness....
what are we saying and what are you bringing in? Is pharmacology same as pharmacy? Please work on your comprehension and deductive reasoning. Guess pharmacognosy is the same as pharmacy. Also pharm chem is d same as pharmacy. Pharm micro is the same as pharmacy and so on. Swerve biko

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Re: PSN More Reasonable Than NMA? by Cmanforall: 12:15am On Jul 20, 2014
nouveaux: what are we saying and what are you bringing in? Is pharmacology same as pharmacy? Please work on your comprehension and deductive reasoning. Guess pharmacognosy is the same as pharmacy. Also pharm chem is d same as pharmacy. Pharm micro is the same as pharmacy and so on. Swerve biko

I don't hv your time.... Go and work on your brains.... Mentally deranged...

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