dejilg: why curse wen u can prove it?! We wait to see d proof that she is the "evilest of the lot"

PAGAN9JA:
shut up. she is the worst and evilest of the lot. Your statement proves it. see how you blindly accused my Hausa ancestors of whom you know nothing of for killing twins.
This is a result of her works.
Gods curse on christianity and christians.

chibecanglobal: Thank you bro..man becomes truely liberated when he seeks and accepts realities affecting him.
Think of this ;satan in igbo is EKWENSU and this literally means a negative force that affects only those that yield to its antics or advances.So for the so called satan to influence man s thinking process "he" will first seek man s permisssion otherwise the authority to act in any way still resides with man.
This simply means that the so satan is always acting as an agent to a principal (man)and so ultimate responsibility always reside will the principal(man).
O buru na i kwere ya esu.

PAGAN9JA:

shut up. she is the worst and evilest of the lot. Your statement proves it. see how you blindly accused my Hausa ancestors of whom you know nothing of for killing twins.

This is a result of her works.

Gods curse on christianity and christians.

PAGAN9JA:



mary slessor was known to spread bad rumours against all Pagan African religions in order to gain converts.

Now each religion is different from the other, depending on the ethnic group.

and this sly tactic of hers actually worked.

For example, In Maguzawa-Hausa religion, Ifa Orisha (Yoruba) religion, etc, etc. , twins are not killed. Yet pastors in these areas preach against indigenous religions for a crime they never comitted! Even Today.


And we all are aware what evil the spread of christianity in Nigeria has caused. You dont need to be a genius to figure that one out.

italo:

One Christian lady stopped your pagan ancestors from killing harmless twins...that's why you're attacking Christians. We do all we can to eradicate your atrocities.

dejilg: wow, I tot the first post was d proof? What wud u call dis?! If she spreads rumours, what am I supposed to say u r doin? Where is ur source where one can confirm dis?! It seems one will have to be ur kind of "genius" to not ask

PAGAN9JA:


Do you seriously need sources when you have "LIVE" examples on this thread?!

PAGAN9JA:

YOU F00L! MY ANCESTORS NEVER KILLED TWINS!

Your ancestors r.aped Goats. That is how you were born. mumu!

italo:

Why are you getting enraged? The whole world knows that Mary Slessor stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins.

It's a pity she didnt travel up north. An area was recently discovered where your fellow pagans still kill twins in Abuja.

dejilg: like I said, one has to be a "genius" of ur type to not ask for source

PAGAN9JA:

baaa/............baaa..............baaaaaaa

I hope you atleast understood what I said above in your native Goat language, since you are still a learner in human language.

PAGAN9JA:

You are a madman. Maybe your own ancestors killed twins. Stop putting the crimes of your ancestors on mine.

she didnt stop anything. WE know the diabolical methods of the church.

italo:

Your insults can't change reality.

The whole world knows that Mary Slessor stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins.

It's a pity she didnt travel up north. An area was recently discovered where your fellow pagans still kill twins in Abuja.

PAGAN9JA:
You are a madman. Maybe your own ancestors killed twins. Stop putting the crimes of your ancestors on mine.
she didnt stop anything. WE know the diabolical methods of the church.

PAGAN9JA:





show me proof where Hausa killed twins.

italo:

You said so...that's the proof.

PAGAN9JA:

you are crazy or drunk. when did I say that?

PAGAN9JA:
show me proof where Hausa killed twins.

italo:

Many have...true. Many have also done God and religion proud...like Mary Slessor who stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins in Calabar and environs.

adsonstone:

Mary Slessor, a 'Protestant' infact, 'Presbyterian' (a group of Christians which you often tag 'heretic') did God and religion proud.

Thank God you affirmed that.

italo:

Anyone can do good, even Atheists. Because we are all redeemed, though not all saved.

Anyone who follows/claims to follow God/religion and does good as a result has done God/religion proud...even though he/she might still be in error. Was the good Samaritan a Jew or Christian before he could make Jesus proud?

Don't get too excited that I mentioned a Protestant. There are Catholic saints who gave their lives so that others may live. E.g Maximillian Kolbe.

A heretic is one who obstinately persists in heresy. I have no evidence that Mary Slessor did so...or that all Protestants do so.

I challenge you to quote me saying "all Protestants are heretics." You cant! Because I never say so. Majority of them are just innocently fooled by their greedy and proud heretic leaders/ministers/pastors.

We Catholics dont condemn everyone to hell, like some of you Protestants. Remember ChrisOkotie and the like.

adsonstone:


Humans generally can do good...because they have the inherent (God-
given) ability to do good, not because we are all redeemed.

Before our redemption, many have done good and made God proud eg Rahab....and after the Redemption, many still do good eg Mary Slessor.


I, personally, do not condemn anyone to hell..saved or unsaved, Christian or Non-Christian...you may provide evidence if you believe I do.

However, I never declared that you said 'all Protestants are heretics.' My statement says you 'often tag Protestants/Presbyterians heretics' just as you have done about their leaders.

italo:

You once criticized the Pope for saying "Atheists can go to heaven." No?

When I had to show you Romans 2 to corroborate his point.



Many Protestant leaders are heretics. They know the truth yet obstinately persist in error. Some of the congregation too.

I can defend my statement in any 'tribunal.'

italo:

Anyone can do good, even Atheists. Because we are all redeemed, though not all saved.

Anyone who follows/claims to follow God/religion and does good as a result has done God/religion proud...even though he/she might still be in error. Was the good Samaritan a Jew or Christian before he could make Jesus proud?

Don't get too excited that I mentioned a Protestant. There are Catholic saints who gave their lives so that others may live. E.g Maximillian Kolbe.

A heretic is one who obstinately persists in heresy. I have no evidence that Mary Slessor did so...or that all Protestants do so.

I challenge you to quote me saying "all Protestants are heretics." You cant! Because I never say so. Majority of them are just innocently fooled by their greedy and proud heretic leaders/ministers/pastors.

We Catholics dont condemn everyone to hell, like some of you Protestants. Remember ChrisOkotie and the like.

adsonstone:
I can remember I once 'criticized' the Pope for saying 'Atheists can go to Heaven...if they follow their consciences, live right and maintain good works.' (Re-phrased)

italo:

You think such people can't make heaven?

dejilg: yes, u dnt condemn everyone to hell, but u condemn "protestants". If u r not proud to really tell us what Catholicism is or u dnt know it, let ur brothers on dis site teach u. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/

adsonstone:


Why not?

They can...

...but only God ultimately knows if they will or not.

PAGAN9JA:

Ekwensu is not satan. In Igbo Religion, Ekwensu is a Trixter God / Alusi.

Ekwensu was a Trickster God (Alusi) of the Igbo people who served as the Alusi or God of Bargains and the tortoise. Crafty at trade and negotiations, he was often invoked for guidance in difficult mercantile situations. Like most Trickster Gods, the deity was a force of Chaos and Change, thus in his more violent aspects, Ekwensu was also revered as a God of War and Victory who ruled over the wicked spirits and the chaotic forces of nature. His companion was Death. With the advent of Christianity, the more beneficent aspects of the deity were supplanted by missionaries who came to misrepresent Ekwensu as Satan.

He was the testing force of Chukwu, and along with Ani the Earth goddess, and Igwe, the Sky God, make up the three highest Alusi's of the ancient Igbo people.

PAGAN9JA:

Ekwensu is not satan. In Igbo Religion, Ekwensu is a Trixter God / Alusi.

Ekwensu was a Trickster God (Alusi) of the Igbo people who served as the Alusi or God of Bargains and the tortoise. Crafty at trade and negotiations, he was often invoked for guidance in difficult mercantile situations. Like most Trickster Gods, the deity was a force of Chaos and Change, thus in his more violent aspects, Ekwensu was also revered as a God of War and Victory who ruled over the wicked spirits and the chaotic forces of nature. His companion was Death. With the advent of Christianity, the more beneficent aspects of the deity were supplanted by missionaries who came to misrepresent Ekwensu as Satan.

He was the testing force of Chukwu, and along with Ani the Earth goddess, and Igwe, the Sky God, make up the three highest Alusi's of the ancient Igbo people.

qstar:

And the omnipotent God sits on the fence, can't even defend His alleged territory.
Only sends polemics like you to defend his failure all over Nairaland.
Oh! What an omnipotent God we have!

italo:

Why then did you criticize the Pope?

And if I may ask, is the above deeper life teaching? If it is, where is it documented? If it isnt, why not?

voltron: Someone was watching all this action from above and did not strike Lightning and Thunder in the usual fashion... listening to a million alleluyias can be boring y'know