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Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by ERTHAENIGMA(m): 8:49pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
This is a joke. Right? |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by halmeyd(m): 8:51pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
I prefer shina rambo |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by henricson(m): 8:54pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
jayseehe: funny enough. they are my two favorite rappers of all time. Your last statement is whack! Since when does singing about bitches, money, drugs an sex become best lyrics? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by ERTHAENIGMA(m): 8:54pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
olubukato:leave this kids alone who started to listen to rap in 2008. Lil wayne? Greatest mc?FOH! . Same kids would say phenom and young6ix are the best rappers in nigeria. |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
uzoexcel and uzolexis, what a nice combination |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Evri one jst talking, most of em dnt evn do rap music. U dnt talk abt rap n say one particular artiste is d best. U judge rap based on content, rhythmic flow n delivery. Lilwayne is gud 4 hez sick punchlines whch I luv very much, eminem also anoda gr8 rapper, hez rhymes r always on point, same goes 4 jayz n drake n co. D worst thing u can do is 2 pick out one rapper n say hez d best out of oda rappers. Why do u fink rappers come 2geda in dia numbas 2 do remixes. Combination of experience n talent 2 make a gud music. |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by ERTHAENIGMA(m): 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
henricson:leavd reta.rds alone. Lil wayne? Lyricist? Someone please shoot me 2 Likes |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by seankafor(m): 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
turn on the lights remix wizkid ft lilwayne...have anybody listend to it? |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by uzoexcel(m): 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
olubukato: uzoexcel and uzolexis, what a nice combination |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by chuqudy(m): 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
bankydd: With the release ofThe Marshall Mathers LP 2, Eminem declares himself a Rap God, featuring the King of Rap (Kendrick Lamar) on his album, and hoping to finally pass the torch ofthe rap game to a worthy predecessor. One can debate back and forth over whether Em or Jay-Z is the greatest rapper alive, but, rather than waste any time debating semantics between these two self-proclaimed "God MCs," I'm declaring the greatest MC in the history of the game to be neither Em nor Jay. History will show that the existence of a God MC is irrelevant so long as there's life on Mars.People Love the Underdog...Eminem has complicated rhymes and rhythms. There's no denying the man knows how to put together a sentenceand spit it -- if complicated equated to musicality, however, why is"Yesterday" the most covered song in pop culture and not "Crazy Train," the fast-paced and just as classic track from Ozzy Osbourne? There's nodenying Eminem is a legendary MC anda great artist, but, while he may have seemed like the innovator in real time, looking back at his archive, the majority of his work doesn't hold up. His cartoony beats, dated pop culture references (who are Moby and Carson Daly, and why is Em mad at them?) and comical lyrics mostly fall flat. Eminem's problem is he blew up too quick -- so he never really had a chanceto mature as an artist.Lil Wayne, on the other hand, came up in the shadows of Juvenile, Manny Fresh, and Baby. Whereas Em was Aftermath's LeBron James, Weezy started as Cash Money's Allen Iverson. At best, Duane Carter was a sidekick, destined to VH1 reality and dating shows. Slim Shady is Vanilla Ice with credibility and skill; he's the Yankees, and he was supposed to win. Lil Wayne is a blinged out Southern rapper like any other. There's no reason he should still be relevant, but he is. All Marshall Mathers had to do in order to stick out was show up; Weezy had to work for his -- and that's real hip-hop.Less Is More...The career-defining single for each of emcee is Eminem's "Lose Yourself," an ode to the struggle of becoming a rapper, and Lil Wayne's "Lollipop," a song about sex. Both songs are approximately five minutes long, and Em fits about 50 percent more words in his song. Weezy's lyrics are much more repetitive, so Shady is essentially working twice as hard to produce the same effect. This certainly proves Marshall is talented and hard-working. It proves he can spit complicated rhyme patterns. But is that what makes a great song? By accomplishing the same thing (a number 1 single) with half the words, Tunechi proves he has a better grasp of lyricism than the Rap God.While word count seems like a wacky way to compare two lyricists, if we're calling someone the greatest rapper alive, it's an important consideration. Lyrics are words, and, as Twitter has proven time and time again, the less words you use to express a thought, the more appealing it is. Being able to express a concise thought on a subject is the mark of a genius, and doing it melodically is a sign of a musical prodigy -- both of which describe Lil Wayne.Content Marketing...Where most people adamantly take a stance on Eminem being great while LilWayne is "garbage" lies in Shady's subject matter -- "Em raps about reallife and real problems while Wayne just talks about money, drugs, and sex." I understand what is being said, but Marshall's lyrics focus on himself while Weezy's run the gamut of subject matter, from destruction (murder) to creation (sex) to everything in between. While Shady is a master of both horrorcore and emo-rap, Tunechi not only excels at both, but can also touch on a wide variety of subjectsEminem does rap about drugs ("Drug Ballad," anyone?), guns ("Pistol Pistol", and sex ("Superman" just like Lil Wayne, but Mr. Carter is able to touch on one universal subject that Mr. Mathers still struggles with, eveninto his 40s...How to Love. Slim is incapable of writing a love song that Justin Bieber could legitimately pull off. The sign of a truly classic song is in its ability to be covered by artists from different generations, and Lil Wayne's discography will stand the test of time longer than Eminem's because compassion is what truly lasts. Em is incapable of expressing compassion without betraying his image. Weezy can release an entire album of love songs; Shady can't.A Goon to a Goblin...Relatability is an important consideration when determining an artist's "star power," and Eminem is much more relatable than Lil Wayne on the surface. Em is an every man who everyone can relate to on some level, while Tunechi is subtitled in his interviews. Aside from having a recognizable face, Slim dresses, looks, and acts like everyone else on the streets (albeit a bit more amped up). He could be anyone's son, neighbor, father, brother, etc. If you showed up to work looking like Weezy, on the other hand, you're going to be fired, and probably arrested. Lil Wayne is a Martian, and if it weren't for music, he wouldn't fit in anywhere.Unfortunately for Em, star power doesn't equate to being the best MC, and his relatability is only skin deep. People may get angry and want to kill themselves or someone else in their head every so often, but a large portion of his portfolio is angry. Basically, Eminem is a really good battle rapper, which is one of the moreclassical styles of hip-hop. Lil Wayne, however, pushes the sonic boundaries of the game to new levels. Both"Lollipop" and "How to Love" take hip-hop to levels that Shady is incapable of pulling off. Weezy is talented in any musical genre; Marshall Mathers is not.The Real Slim Shady...Unlike the classic debate over 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G. being the greatest MC ever, both Lil Wayne and Eminem are still very much in the game and cranking out hits, with each artist sitting on discographies of over 1000 tracks. As long as Em outlives Wayne (and, unless Weezy shares genes with Keith Richards, it's a definite possibility), Shady will have the last word. He still has a chance to release aunique album that breaks his formulaic approach to music. Eminem could possibly test the boundaries of rap in an unexpected way.That day may never come, however, and until it does, Lil Wayne is the undisputed greatest living MC I am lazy cant read. pls someone summarize this for me |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by lagcity(m): 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Even Drake beta pass Wayne. fork outta here |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Kulzil(m): 8:57pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Shady is obviously the best. He is the only rapper that has no punchlines but keeps selling platinum. Check the songs they both featured and u will see the difference. 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by decepticos(m): 8:57pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
bankydd: With the release ofThe Marshall Mathers LP 2, Eminem declares himself a Rap God, featuring the King of Rap (Kendrick Lamar) on his album, and hoping to finally pass the torch ofthe rap game to a worthy predecessor. One can debate back and forth over whether Em or Jay-Z is the greatest rapper alive, but, rather than waste any time debating semantics between these two self-proclaimed "God MCs," I'm declaring the greatest MC in the history of the game to be neither Em nor Jay. History will show that the existence of a God MC is irrelevant so long as there's life on Mars.People Love the Underdog...Eminem has complicated rhymes and rhythms. There's no denying the man knows how to put together a sentenceand spit it -- if complicated equated to musicality, however, why is"Yesterday" the most covered song in pop culture and not "Crazy Train," the fast-paced and just as classic track from Ozzy Osbourne? There's nodenying Eminem is a legendary MC anda great artist, but, while he may have seemed like the innovator in real time, looking back at his archive, the majority of his work doesn't hold up. His cartoony beats, dated pop culture references (who are Moby and Carson Daly, and why is Em mad at them?) and comical lyrics mostly fall flat. Eminem's problem is he blew up too quick -- so he never really had a chanceto mature as an artist.Lil Wayne, on the other hand, came up in the shadows of Juvenile, Manny Fresh, and Baby. Whereas Em was Aftermath's LeBron James, Weezy started as Cash Money's Allen Iverson. At best, Duane Carter was a sidekick, destined to VH1 reality and dating shows. Slim Shady is Vanilla Ice with credibility and skill; he's the Yankees, and he was supposed to win. Lil Wayne is a blinged out Southern rapper like any other. There's no reason he should still be relevant, but he is. All Marshall Mathers had to do in order to stick out was show up; Weezy had to work for his -- and that's real hip-hop.Less Is More...The career-defining single for each of emcee is Eminem's "Lose Yourself," an ode to the struggle of becoming a rapper, and Lil Wayne's "Lollipop," a song about sex. Both songs are approximately five minutes long, and Em fits about 50 percent more words in his song. Weezy's lyrics are much more repetitive, so Shady is essentially working twice as hard to produce the same effect. This certainly proves Marshall is talented and hard-working. It proves he can spit complicated rhyme patterns. But is that what makes a great song? By accomplishing the same thing (a number 1 single) with half the words, Tunechi proves he has a better grasp of lyricism than the Rap God.While word count seems like a wacky way to compare two lyricists, if we're calling someone the greatest rapper alive, it's an important consideration. Lyrics are words, and, as Twitter has proven time and time again, the less words you use to express a thought, the more appealing it is. Being able to express a concise thought on a subject is the mark of a genius, and doing it melodically is a sign of a musical prodigy -- both of which describe Lil Wayne.Content Marketing...Where most people adamantly take a stance on Eminem being great while LilWayne is "garbage" lies in Shady's subject matter -- "Em raps about reallife and real problems while Wayne just talks about money, drugs, and sex." I understand what is being said, but Marshall's lyrics focus on himself while Weezy's run the gamut of subject matter, from destruction (murder) to creation (sex) to everything in between. While Shady is a master of both horrorcore and emo-rap, Tunechi not only excels at both, but can also touch on a wide variety of subjectsEminem does rap about drugs ("Drug Ballad," anyone?), guns ("Pistol Pistol", and sex ("Superman" just like Lil Wayne, but Mr. Carter is able to touch on one universal subject that Mr. Mathers still struggles with, eveninto his 40s...How to Love. Slim is incapable of writing a love song that Justin Bieber could legitimately pull off. The sign of a truly classic song is in its ability to be covered by artists from different generations, and Lil Wayne's discography will stand the test of time longer than Eminem's because compassion is what truly lasts. Em is incapable of expressing compassion without betraying his image. Weezy can release an entire album of love songs; Shady can't.A Goon to a Goblin...Relatability is an important consideration when determining an artist's "star power," and Eminem is much more relatable than Lil Wayne on the surface. Em is an every man who everyone can relate to on some level, while Tunechi is subtitled in his interviews. Aside from having a recognizable face, Slim dresses, looks, and acts like everyone else on the streets (albeit a bit more amped up). He could be anyone's son, neighbor, father, brother, etc. If you showed up to work looking like Weezy, on the other hand, you're going to be fired, and probably arrested. Lil Wayne is a Martian, and if it weren't for music, he wouldn't fit in anywhere.Unfortunately for Em, star power doesn't equate to being the best MC, and his relatability is only skin deep. People may get angry and want to kill themselves or someone else in their head every so often, but a large portion of his portfolio is angry. Basically, Eminem is a really good battle rapper, which is one of the moreclassical styles of hip-hop. Lil Wayne, however, pushes the sonic boundaries of the game to new levels. Both"Lollipop" and "How to Love" take hip-hop to levels that Shady is incapable of pulling off. Weezy is talented in any musical genre; Marshall Mathers is not.The Real Slim Shady...Unlike the classic debate over 2Pac or Notorious B.I.G. being the greatest MC ever, both Lil Wayne and Eminem are still very much in the game and cranking out hits, with each artist sitting on discographies of over 1000 tracks. As long as Em outlives Wayne (and, unless Weezy shares genes with Keith Richards, it's a definite possibility), Shady will have the last word. He still has a chance to release aunique album that breaks his formulaic approach to music. Eminem could possibly test the boundaries of rap in an unexpected way.That day may never come, however, and until it does, Lil Wayne is the undisputed greatest living MCBrother I have every reason to believe this is a copied post, like seriously why would any1 call how to love a Hip Hop song the guy didn't even rap, for me everything u supposedly wrote here is THRASH, cos lil wayne isn't considered an EmCee. You need some true hip hop lessons.
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Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by armadeo(m): 8:58pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
uzoexcel: but seriously hw dd this thread make front page when there r more important topics...in fact, At first I read your post with utter disbelief, then I realised you probably were serious. I never thought it was possible to rotfl till now. 2 Likes |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by kkash: 8:59pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Due to d wide variety of music genre weezy fits into I get d OP'z point.....so my conclusion is shadey is d better rapper buh wayne is d better artiste due to his flexibility.... |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by uzoexcel(m): 8:59pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
armadeo: |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by saintsrow(m): 8:59pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
All i can say is yee ,shii,,yii lyk Wayne did on #nolove |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Lil Wayne is a disgrace to rap lyrically 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by raficki87(m): 9:00pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
for me lil wayne is C.ronaldo while eminem is Messi both are on a diffent league from odas but Eminem/Messi has a slight edge though not very noticable. 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Truman155(m): 9:02pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
i just feel like posting something but btw eminem is better than wayne QED |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Oahray: 9:04pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Ehn? Lil Wayne? Dude are you serious? Shady would set Lil Wayne ablaze abeg. No think am. |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
uzoexcel: |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by saintsrow(m): 9:04pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
bykebyke: Lil Wayne is a disgrace to rap lyricallyWayne is a God metaphor-ly ,,hin sabi color words lyk crayon |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by jerricho(m): 9:05pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Two words best describe the OP: biased buffoon. 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
ERTHAENIGMA: Buhahaha No mind dem o.. |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Judolisco(m): 9:06pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Lil wayne rap is shit dnt even compare both of them is lyk comparin demba ba wit messi 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
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Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by slydog(m): 9:07pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
All i know is, "why be a king, when i could be a god?" 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by armadeo(m): 9:07pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Hangard: Chop knuckle. Fast lane currently on repeat everywhere I go. I love dem both. 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Nobody: 9:08pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
eminem is good. lil wayne is good kendick Lamar is best |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Chrisdmeek(m): 9:10pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
jayseehe: funny enough. they are my two favorite rappers of all time.You deserve a thousand likes bro. Thought I was alone until I read this piece. Hit me with a play list of songs done by Eminem, 2pac, and Nas and T.I, I'm ready to go all day long without complaints 1 Like |
Re: Sorry, Slim, But Lil Wayne Is The Greatest MC Alive by Kulzil(m): 9:11pm On Jul 20, 2014 |
Eminem is a better rapper then Lil Wayne, and I will break this down. Sales No debate here, Eminem is the best selling rapper of all time. And Lil Wayne doesn't even come close. This obviously goes to Eminem. NOTE: Just because he sells more doesn't mean he is better. It just means that more people go out to buy Eminem then Lil Wayne. Consistency I will give this to Lil Wayne, since he is very consistent and active. While Eminem had a 5 year hiatus from 2004-2009. This goes to Wayne. Lyrics All Lil Wayne has is clever punch lines. His flow is always the same, and it is bad. While Eminem has a numerous amounts of different flows. And he broke lyrical boundaries on songs like "lose yourself" and "till I collapse". Till I collapse is where almost every word was part of a rhyme scheme, in the first verse of the song. "Till I collapse I"m spilling these raps long as you feel 'em Till the day that I drop you'll never say that I'm not killing them 'Cause when I am not then I'm stop penning 'em And I am not hip-hop and I"m just not Eminem. Subliminal thoughts when I'm stop sending them women are caught in webs spin and hauk venom Adrenaline shots of penicillin could not get the illing to stop. Amoxacilin is just not real enough. The criminal cop killing hip-hop filling a minimal swap to cop millions of Pac listeners. You're coming with me, feel it or not you"re gonna fear it like I showed you the spirit of god lives in us. You hear it a lot, lyrics that shock is it a miracle or am I just a product of pop fizzing up. For sizzle my whizzle this is the plot listen up you bizzles forgot slizzle does not give a f." - This is a feat that very few rappers can do. And Lil Wayne doesn't come close to anything like this, infact Lil Wayne even admits that he cant mess with Eminem. And here is the proof: Eminem uses rhyme schemes within rhymes schemes within rhyme schemes. And has even been acknowledged by many other famous rappers out there. Wayne has almost no lyrical talent what so ever. I will admit, in Carter 4 and a few of his older stuff was impressive. But not even close to Eminem's level. Lil Wayne has corny lines, "I"m so Holligrove, New Orleans Lilweezyana home sweet home depot you will need a hammer it go down like Frasier I ain"t talking Kelsey grammer I be stuffting on your boys I need an alka-seltzer sandwich Since I heard Plies I done brought the phantom back Went and got me a 52 inch Maybach I'm eating like a big dog I"m so full, I"m so good I"m so straight, you so fake I'm so real I"m so hood" "I'm so high I make it rain" And so much other stuff. Not saying Eminem has never produced anything that was bad. His albums Encore and Relapse were terrible. But he has many classics. Eminem takes this easy, when it comes to lyrics, flow, rhyme schemes, punch lines. Topics Eminem raps about his life. Lil Wayne continuously raps about the same stuff again and again. It's also booty, money, car. Rinse and repeat. Eminem raps about his life, his alter ego slim shady is a part of Marshall Mathers, that he exaggerates. But he has a variety of stuff. What ever mood your in, and if your going through problems, he will always have a song to make you laugh, cry, etc. Lil Wayne doesn't He likes sticking to the same stuff. His latest album was based on just his piece for the entire album. I will admit, that Eminem is not on top of his game. But he is still good none the less. Not as good as The Eminem Show. But still good. Just listen to Bad Meets evil: The Hell Sequence album. But the sane could be said about Lil Wayne. He is putting out garbage. Eminem takes this. Freestyle No competition. Eminem destroys on all levels. Lets compare some random freestyles. Eminem Lil Wayne Eminem destroys by putting multi syllabic rhyme schemes and takes it to a whole new level. "Pull your verse out the beat and stomp on it, suplex it on cement, like I'm on some straight out of Compton s***". Lil wayne has no complex rhymes or even clever lines like."You're about to see peace destroyed It'll never be restored When I unleash these beastly hordes on your CD stores Wanna stop it You gon' need a priest, at least three swords A license to ill from the Beastie Boys, three Ouija boards A squeegee and please be warned Don't ask what the squeegee's for Or the holy water, acid raps that'll eat these floors Eat a hole in a rhyme book, you see these horns" No debate here Eminem destroys on so many levels. Eminem owns. Overall, Eminem destroys Lil Wayne in almost category. And he is the better rapper. 5 Likes |
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