An apprentice bricklayer, identified as Rasheed Sulaiman, was shot dead while testing the potency of a bullet-proof charm given to him by a herbalist in Asipa community, Osun State. According to a resident, Sulaiman, on Saturday called his cousin, Siji, to follow him to a secluded place to test the charm. It was learnt that Sulaiman had wore the amulet and gave a gun to his cousin to fire at him. The cousin fired the shot and killed Sulaiman instantly, according to reports from Punch. Residents were unaware of the mission of duo, but the sound of a gunshot was said to have attracted attention of the people of the area to where the incident happened. Ads by save netAd Options Siji was said to be found weeping beside the body of the deceased. Siji reportedly explained that the deceased compelled him to shoot at him to test the potency of an amulet. It was gathered that the deceased, who was known to be a tough guy, could be preparing to use the charm for the governorship election in the state. The incident was said to have triggered panic among the elders of the community who believed that some other youths might have similar charms.

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So FOLYKAZE GhostofSparta and any other adherents of the so called "YAS" (Yoruba Advanced Sciences).

Comments?

Also you see why I insist that these things not be tested on humans?

My guy original Juju dey ooooo
But God power pass Juju power
Confirm Juju dey oooooo

youngestfool: My guy original Juju dey ooooo
But God power pass Juju power
Confirm Juju dey oooooo

So what happened in this case?

jayriginal:

So FOLYKAZE GhostofSparta and any other adherents of the so called "YAS" (Yoruba Advanced Sciences).

Comments?

Also you see why I insist that these things not be tested on humans?

Ghostofsparta once asked a question. He said, would yyou as a teacher pour acid on your student to test acid potency?

Ya you got a point there. And I dont even think you are the one that raised it first though kudos for bringing it once again.

I dont think I have to worry about bullet proof charm again since no one is ready for the testing. We have to move on.

Thanks

jayriginal:

So what happened in this case?

No matter Ow Juju dey authentic
E go fail one day
Na God protection never fail
Believe in God

These types of voodoo like other types are for dummies. The native doctor can never lose because these types of voodoo can only be verified if true. If you are shot and you manage to survive regardless of the reasons why you survive, the native doctor takes credit. The only other alternative is that the dummy suffers a fatal wound as in this case and he can't challenge the voodoo man because he is dead. Either way the voodoo man wins. In summary: tail he wins and head dummy loses.

Even if the voodoo man does not take credit, the dummy would give credit to him anyway by using post hoc fallacy i.e. B follows A therefore A must have caused B. In plain language, Dummy says If I did not have Y.A.S.(Yoruba Advanced Sciences), I would have suffered a mortal wound. This conclusion would be made without giving credence to other factors like pure luck, ineptitude of the shooter etc. In many countries including Nigeria people survive gun shot without any belief in ineffectual Y.A.S.

Unfortunately, another one (dummy) bites the dust! This is quite asinine and needless.

As a foot note: if Y.A.S. existed, why did Mallam Alimi implode Oyo empire, behead Afonja and seize Ilorin from the Yoruba? Why were Yoruba towns depleted by slave raiders during the trans Atlantic slave trade? Mind you they did not even have AK 47 and/or other sophisticated weapons then. In recent times, Sani "Abutcher" sorry I mean Sani Abacha's goons decimated the Yoruba without the resistance of Y.A.S.

FOLYKAZE:

Ghostofsparta once asked a question. He said, would yyou as a teacher pour acid on your student to test acid potency?

Ya you got a point there. And I dont even think you are the one that raised it first though kudos for bringing it once again.

I dont think I have to worry about bullet proof charm again since no one is ready for the testing. We have to move on.

Thanks

Mazaje comes to Nigeria quite often and indicated interest in testing with a goat or some other live animal. How far did you guys go with that?

jayriginal:

Mazaje comes to Nigeria quite often and indicated interest in testing with a goat or some other live animal. How far did you guys go with that?

No success yet due to some condition he understand only.

youngestfool:


No matter Ow Juju dey authentic
E go fail one day
Na God protection never fail
Believe in God

I bet the Christians that died this week in Kano are not children of God.

omonuan: These types of voodoo like other types are for dummies. The native doctor can never lose because these types of voodoo can only be verified if true. If you are shot and you manage to survive regardless of the reasons why you survive, the native doctor takes credit. The only other alternative is that the dummy suffers a fatal wound as in this case and he can't challenge the voodoo man because he is dead. Either way the voodoo man wins. In summary: tail he wins and head dummy loses.

Even if the voodoo man does not take credit, the dummy would give credit to him anyway by using post hoc fallacy i.e. B follows A therefore A must have caused B. In plain language, Dummy says If I did not have Y.A.S.(Yoruba Advanced Sciences), I would have suffered a mortal wound. This conclusion would be made without giving credence to other factors like pure luck, ineptitude of the shooter etc. In many countries including Nigeria people survive gun shot without any belief in ineffectual Y.A.S.

Unfortunately, another one (dummy) bites the dust! This is quite asinine and needless.

As a foot note: if Y.A.S. existed, why did Mallam Alimi implode Oyo empire, behead Afonja and seize Ilorin from the Yoruba? Why were Yoruba towns depleted by slave raiders during the trans Atlantic slave trade? Mind you they did not even have AK 47 and/or other sophisticated weapons then. In recent times, Sani "Abutcher" sorry I mean Sani Abacha's goons decimated the Yoruba without the resistance of Y.A.S.

I quite agree with your submissions. I have made same or similar on previous occasions when this same issue cropped up. I have been to a shooting range and so I know the role marksmanship plays and how difficult it is to hit a target even one as big as a human being from as little as a few meters away. Most times these wannabe gangsters/cultists and what not just carry guns and shoot. No training whatsoever. Some of them hold the gun sideways sef. How the hell will they hit their targets then? This is coupled with the fact that often the target is trying to escape. So, poor marksmanship and a moving target equals african bullet proof. Awesome! Its no wonder that the choice of weapons for these people is a cut to size (to compensate for poor marksmanship) which then leads to the proliferation of stray bullets.

Many years ago, I read in the papers that Fela once obtained one of these so called bullet proof charms. He wore the amulet and asked to be shot to test it. It was Beko that noticed and pleaded with him to put it on a goat and shoot the goat instead. The goat died. The article I was reading was on Beko or Fela. Im not sure which one but the story was mentioned in passing.

FOLYKAZE:

No success yet due to some condition he understand only.

Ok.

On "kanoko"

ghostofsparta:

My point is, you atheists here on Nairaland have my admiration. And just like I was once like you anti-theism...I have long seen and witness what it takes to convince an unbeliever of African capacity to effect the supernatural, hence reason to believe there is God. But not the Abrahamic one, but the Yoruban which is the same as that of the Igbos and other native Africans. For spaghetti monster sake, we are not Jews or Arabs, so why should we subscribe to the middle eastern belief system wherein people from such origin (Sam Harris) denounces it. We are blacks. We are superior. We have more than nuclear power. We have ultimate technology. But many don't know. And those who know are not given support or a continually ridiculed. Those who still possess some of these esoteric knowledge are not enlightened and uninformed that the world need to see what we've got down here, it's high time the world stop looking down on us. I have seen a superscientist engaged someone writhing in pain after managing to jump-escape out of an accident whose hands to arm is bloodied and bruised. The Babalawo cursed (se ekpe fun) the wounds to heal back and it began so, instantly and immidiately. These and several others are what still gives me hope that one day, we blax are going to be respected before the world. And that's why I expect you Nairaland aheists to ignore these hardened religionists whose pastors or afas might have been decieved with bedazzling feats not knowing the source of such of energy (if not trick) is still from native powers. I am aware you nairaland atheists need evidential proof for the supernatural, Haba! there are so many such that I even shed tears almost everyday knowing that these things exists amongst our village folks and yet the whites think its not possible to vanish/invisible when you are not Nomad in Crysis, and that's it delusion to believe one can stop bullets when you are not the man of steel or walk on water. In the village where I am, one of the pal I befriended told me someone walked on their river, and I said 'gbagbe ko possible jo' (forget it's not possible) unless he used some sort of plexi-glass and y'all know what he told me? he said the guy whom he saw did it never attended primary school talkless of knowing about any science or technology called 'plexiglass'. I need not to believe him because I have seen other feats too myself. Yesterday in my quest to know, some folks who have always misunderstand me as one of yoU guys who say 'kosogun' (nothing like charm/juju/jazz) almost tried to harm me when he went inside to bring several offensive YAS, because they have been telling me not to quote you guys again instead I should go bring or invite anyone of you to confirm with your eyes. So I'm using this opportunity to invite any of you now or bunch of tou can even cone together with HD cameras. And after you have seen and believe, then we can focus on how to properly plot a way on how to tehnologize them into a modern society. Kanoko for instance can be an alternative to motor vehicle since it shortens long distance, so those who are late for work or appointment can just press a button and it does it trick. Egbe in its many versions can be used to teleport death-bound passengers in a soon-to-crash airplane or accidenting bus to a safe spot. I have so many ideas of how ABP(African bullet proofs) and many other Yoruba Advanced Sciences can be adapted to modern use. It's very unfortunate of the kind of government we have in Nigeria and Yorubaland, otherwise these are areas heavy researches should be funded to. Not sport and pilgrimage. I have stopped trying to convince my black Christians and Muslims Yorubas to see that our native belief system is far better and much more provable than what we have been indoctrinated with but it has only fetch me disdain and labels, few time almost violence. So it's up to you Nairaland atheists to rechannel your energy towards how can we.....and not who do we argue or sharpen our intellect with. They have been brainwashed and its not easy to be re fine tune back.

https://www.nairaland.com/1510778/all-atheists-once-all#19411013

ghostofsparta:

Furthermore, travelling through time which is clearly different from the 'time-hopping' scenarios painted above is very possible because not only have I confirmed it several times, it's also modifiable and guess what..the knowledge of it is gleaned from an aspect of the Yoruban Ifa called isegun or Yoruba Advanced Sciences. Travelling through time is what KANOKO does when used by shortening the distances meant to be traversed naturally. If you use it, say you want to be in Ikorodu quickly while you are in Apapa, all you just need do is to contactivate it while already been attached on you and you begin to move by walking as usual and you will realise as you trek on, you somehow find yourself getting past places that normally if you could sprint like a cheetah wouldn't have reached untill you get to the destination inputed on the YAS when you contactivated it. In my study so far, the wonderfull KANOKO has no repercussion but do have a consequence of relapsing the user to walk those skipped distance during sleep which when woken willl be exasperated and weak, nonetheless I am still trying to meet a very deep old woman whom I'm informed has a version that doesn't feature this consequential limitation and that could also enable one apply it from here to anywhere in the world. I know this sounds ridiculous but I and others have used the normal KANOKO and yes I sweat it out. Truly our ancestors were great to have had superscientists (Oniseguns and Babalawos) among them who figured it out because they constantly commmune with nature. If you or anyone is interested to know, ask and I will tell how I think the science of KANOKO works.

https://www.nairaland.com/1804244/time-travel-real-fictional-how#24822377
AMOS NONYU

Sounds like induced sleepwalking to me!

jayriginal: ..... you see why I insist that these things not be tested on humans?

The spirit behind the charm could blind your eyes and mind to your suggestion.

GeneralShepherd:

I bet the Christians that died this week in Kano are not children of God.

My guy you are right,
you can't question God
Sometimes nature calls
Which we don't have power
Over it.
Be wise

youngestfool:



My guy you are right,
you can't question God
Sometimes nature calls
Which we don't have power
Over it.
Be wise

Bro

What in the world is your submission. Are they or are they not children of God?

jayriginal:

Bro

What in the world is your submission. Are they or are they not children of God?

Muted about it
But u and I know d truth
About it

youngestfool:


Muted about it
But u and I know d truth
About it

Talk jor.

jayriginal:

Talk jor.

Nothing to talk about
If u thinks am wrong then prove me right
And I will prove u wrong

Why in d world didn't he shoot his leg or arm, smh for people testing the potency of bullet proof charms?

PastorOluT: Why in d world didn't he shoot his leg or arm, smh for people testing the potency of bullet proof charms?

Its called faith.

Yet again...I feel compelled to defend that YBP exist and does work but I now find it needless as it won't prove anything here where only texts reigns. However, I personally know for a fact that among YBP specialists, and I mean the genuine ones whom are always very difficult to get/know/meet whose base sometimes can be seen littering around with several among many that were discovered to be ineffectual during rigorous test while the effective ones are sorted and kept away. How much less of some yappies who one way or the other either got hold of how to produce it without knowing not all are DIY kinda things, did it and tested himself with it not knowing tangible ones are not tested with a human subject. Even only certain versions the non-tanglible ones may be tested, regardless of which there are some factors that WILL negate the efficiacy of most YBP which varies from versions to versions. I won't say more than this^ for now.

Feel free to read my piece on tangible and non-tangible YBP H E R E

Talking of sleep walking, there's no such thing as induced sleep walking in the field of somnabulism for I myself do not believe in hypnosis/hypnotism.

jayriginal:

Its called faith.

Blind faith I guess after all the news flying around of failed attempts of people like him?