Ishilove:
Ohh, my... GOD!!!

Goodness, Roy, is there any remedy to her problem? Can't something be done to help her?

V4ginal reconstruction surgery/repair. Specialists are kind of few in that area. And then there's the cost. She underwent it twice before we lost track of her. It helped a bit with intercourse but delivery is still going to be C/S

coogar:

it must get better till the end of time o!



frigidity can be dealt with? how? where's the time to start taking housewife for sex therapy sessions?



women should shape up then! so what's a man to do then? no wonder marital infidelity is almost inevitable.



time to start investing in potent aphrodisiacs to slip in my wife's dinner plate. sex taking a back seat is a no-no! what's the essence of marriage then if what is meant to be freely enjoyed is being rationed?




that's my expectation and we men should start demanding our expectation from our partners. why should we accept the status quo. women can't continue to frown at polygyny & marital infidelity and still deny their husbands at home.

if a woman feels she can no longer meet her husband's needs then she should be a sarah. she should get extra hands like a maiden for her husband. men are being shortchanged with this arrangement & it's now clear why many men in our generation are shunning marriage.

Tsk tsk, coogar... I am very sure your orientation will change when you finally get married. Trust me

Royver:
Vaginal reconstruction surgery/repair. Specialists are kind of few in that area. And then there's the cost.

Goodness

TV01:
Very unlikely. Women are much more "fragile", are more easily subject to "mood driven desire" and don't have a pure "sex imperative" like men.

The vagaries of marriage and life generally mean they have a less desire, less consistent desire and more frequent dips. They have less testosterone, are more prone to illness, suffer through childbirth and are more likely to have reproductive illnesses. Think fibroids, endemetriosis, vagismus, various discharges and sundry ailments.

The flight path I described, most men would be more than able to do live with that, it's mostly the women that mean flying consistently at that altitude is not really likely.


It's a long term deal. Even if not frigidity, you are almost certainly going to encounter some "turbulence ". Many that may affect libido.


Agree about women shaping up, but men have to support them.

And yes, it's absolutely why a lot of fidelity happens. Men have these unrealistic expectations and then look outside when they are not met.

Better set expectations and real commitment would greatly reduce the levels of infidelity. And I can't stress getting a wife that you "fancy die" as well. That helps animate your commitment with motivation.

I think marrying a significantly younger wife helps in a lot of ways. Not least because as the man matures he gets less demanding, more appreciative and more indulgent. Without being prescriptive I think 8 - 12 is good. A gym culture without your propmting is real good as well. Assuming the man is taking good physical care of himself, otherwise it could backfire.


Aphrodisi wetin? Hmmm...I suppose, but I wouldn't.

And don't marry a player, digga, glorified runs girl, ex sugary mama, feminist...actually, it's prolly easier to say what you should marry !

"A younger woman, from a good home, with strong faith and moral values, who is fit, healthy, well endowed, highly accocmplished and a virgin to boot"

And then Captain, expect a routine flight, but be prepared to manage your flight path.


Male female expectations for sex during the course of a normal marriage will rarely match.


I said some things can help. Money is one of these. Outsource as much as possible so wifey can focus on hubby. The current culture of both parents working back-breaking hours just to make ends meet does no thelp.

Men are shunning marriage because it's increasingly a bad-deal for them - apart from sex. Most men would still prefer to marry and have a side-chick, than not marry and have a harem of side-chicks.

I am not championing polygamy, side-chicks or runs. Just the right setting of expectations.


TV

Television, you are making a truckload of sense.

Royver:
A woman left alum in her privates overnight to tighten it. Today she cannot have normal sex as the 'hole' is too narrow and there is no way she will ever deliver babies through that way. Its going to have to be C/S.
So please be warned. DO NOT TRY IT.

See desperation...

5minsmadness:



Bad idea bro trust me on this

Why?

coogar:

be deceiving yourself - most women don't enjoy sex at all & it even gets worse post-birth. this is why the intimacy gadget industry is booming in the first place.

more than 70% of the women out there cannot even cop orgašms via vaginäl sex with a male partner & every man gets orgaśms in every sex session so what exactly do women enjoy?

Where exactly did you get these figures from?? You can't use the few women you shaggged as yardstick in measuring women's libido

carefreewannabe:

If the women they sleep with don't enjoy it, then it means that they just don't know how to do them right and NOT that most women don't enjoy it. It is that simple.

Lol. WORD

TV01:


Before I return to show you how ideologically confused you are. Could you please show me where I said or insinuated that "most women don't enjoy sex" - or indeed, that women don't sometimes have sex purely for pleasure.


TV

This is what you said on August, 19

...for most women, sex is first and foremost a means to an end. For most men, it is an end in itself.

This statement implicates that MOST women do not have s. e. x for fun's sake but to achieve something.

And you were trying to prove the point by saying that s. e. x decreases after a woman has attained "the end" because she didn't have s.ex for the fun of it, which LOGICALLY implicates that a woman does not enjoy se. x so much.

NOW TELL ME HOW YOU CAME UP WITH MOST WOMEN!

damiso: Coogar and carefreewannabe both of you are something else

Coogar I want to contribute to this thread based on personal experiences to buttress points made by others about lowering(ok not lowering but being a bit realistic about your spouse's libido) as there are various factors that could contribute to a woman's loss of libido which has also been talked about on this thread.I consider myself(shy face ) someone who has a healthy se..x drive and we were at it alot in our first year of marriage esp as we did not have a child in our first year.

But yeah we had a 3 month drought (am thinking even 4 sef ) after I had my daughter. And when I say drought I mean zilch zero nada just cuddling with a non se.xual undertone.

I actually had to undergo counselling and had to see a doctor cos it was horrible and I could not believe this was me(heck my husband could not believe this was his vixen wife ).I think I have shared on here once that I had a mild form of post natal depression after the birth of my daughter due to a lot of factors

I just lost my dad
My mum was unable to come over to help so me and hubby had to learn and do all the new born ish ourselves
I was just about 2 years in the uk most of my family and friends were in Nigeria and even though my Inlaws and church members tried they just had their own lives and so when hubby went back to work I felt alone
We were moving house
My daughter was a crying baby and had serious bouts of colic
I had a very very nasty tear that I had to have stitches with a spinal even though I had A VB

It was one of the most traumatic times in my life and my hubby was really really patient with me as he knew I was very fragile both emotionally and physically and even when I kept apologising that I was denying. Him he kept asking me to stop being silly and try to get better.That time of my life taught me that depression is very real.With time and patience(also sought medical help my GP and the NHS were fantastic I even got free prescription for KY jelly for about 6 months ) we eventually got our momentum back and our s..ex life is even much better these days.As a man you might (might not every woman had that experience) have to cope with something like that and believe me if you love your wife her wellbeing at that point will supecede your needs.Funny enough it was the exact opposite after I had my second child but then most of the issues I listed earlier had been dealt with.

So Coogar chill s..ex is very important but sometimes in some cases the libido of a shoe has legitimate and medical reasons and you just have to work and communicate with your wife to help her get momentum back.

damiso, this is a different case altogether.

if you have seen many of my posts, you would know i intend to be a very considerate husband. i don't even believe a woman should he troubled when her pregnancy is in the 2nd or trimester and that should extend till her healing process is complete. i am fully aware of the stress a woman would go through shortly the birth of a baby.

however, that's not the case i am talking about here. i am talking about women who can be described as asexual. they just font want sëx - the only thing making them go through it is cos of children, not because they find sex pleasurable. some women are yet to have children & sëx is a task for them - like they are doing their partners a big favour.

the other category are the women who just stopped trying after marriage or after having all their children. they stop taking care of themselves. sëx is no longer in their agenda, they use the attention they devote on the kids as an excuse to do nothing in the bedroom. why should any hubby put up with such? in the days of our forefathers, polygamy took care of such issues......now that polygamy has almost the same weight as murder, what should men do? sleep with themselves?

Ishilove:
Where exactly did you get these figures from?? You can't use the few women you shaggged as yardstick in measuring women's libido

ishilove, read some medical articles about it now. do your research. all those fairytales the ladies in your church tell you about their orgäsms with their hubbies are bunch of lies. even eve faked her orgäsm in eden.

Ishilove:
Tsk tsk, coogar... I am very sure your orientation will change when you finally get married. Trust me

how do you know this?

coogar:

you are a laboratory rêtard!
who compares birthing a child with penilë penetration? in late pregnancies, hormones are already responsible for the softening & the relaxing of the ligaments that make up the pelvis(you would not get that luxury during sex)

the pelvis are elastic & not rigid during child birth & this gives the pelvis the ability to stretch and open more easily for the birth of the baby. even with that, women still have tears here & there that have to be sown back to shape - that's what you are comparing to penilê penetration?

you are a disgrace to womanhood!



the only reason you think size matters is because you have a slacked vägina. sex is all about knowing which positions to take & the endurance of a man to last the distance enough for his partner to reach her destination. a one-minute man with the biggest size is useless to a woman & useless to himself.

you better go get a vagïnal reconstruction surgery to fix your crumbled vagïnal walls. like i said earlier, the first one-third of your vagïna (the third closest to the opening) is the area that houses all of the nerve endings and is, therefore, the only area that actually registers sensation. ramming it down the whole length is just a waste of time and effort....



you don't enjoy sëx either, stop lying. 80% of women have admitted faking their orgásms. and in the law of average, you would be among those women - with your slacked vagïnal walls. if you cannot afford the surgery, send your people to the village & get a 500g alum. stick it up your puss for a week & you would be fine!



you wish!
olodo 30 kobo. so because a woman can birth a child means if a man's cöck is as big as a baby's head then he would penetratê a woman? where were you when intelligence was distributed by your maker?

I don't read people who have a low IQ so stop trying.

Cococandy, Jenny, Damiso, Edwife, Ishilove have contradicted so stop embarrassing yourself by repeating that women prefer toys to a good man.

LADIES, do you prefer toys because you don't enjoy s. ex.

coogar:

you are a laboratory rêtard!
who compares birthing a child with penilë penetration? in late pregnancies, hormones are already responsible for the softening & the relaxing of the ligaments that make up the pelvis(you would not get that luxury during sex)

the pelvis are elastic & not rigid during child birth & this gives the pelvis the ability to stretch and open more easily for the birth of the baby. even with that, women still have tears here & there that have to be sown back to shape - that's what you are comparing to penilê penetration?

you are a disgrace to womanhood!



the only reason you think size matters is because you have a slacked vägina. sex is all about knowing which positions to take & the endurance of a man to last the distance enough for his partner to reach her destination. a one-minute man with the biggest size is useless to a woman & useless to himself.

you better go get a vagïnal reconstruction surgery to fix your crumbled vagïnal walls. like i said earlier, the first one-third of your vagïna (the third closest to the opening) is the area that houses all of the nerve endings and is, therefore, the only area that actually registers sensation. ramming it down the whole length is just a waste of time and effort....



you don't enjoy sëx either, stop lying. 80% of women have admitted faking their orgásms. and in the law of average, you would be among those women - with your slacked vagïnal walls. if you cannot afford the surgery, send your people to the village & get a 500g alum. stick it up your puss for a week & you would be fine!



you wish!
olodo 30 kobo. so because a woman can birth a child means if a man's cöck is as big as a baby's head then he would penetratê a woman? where were you when intelligence was distributed by your maker?

I don't read texts from people who have a low IQ so stop trying.

Cococandy, Jenny, Damiso, Edwife, Ishilove have contradicted so stop embarrassing yourself by repeating that women prefer toys to a good man.

Let us ask some more ladies, I really need you to understand that you are embarrassing yourself.


LADIES, do you prefer toys because you don't enjoy s. ex?

Coogar says you don't enjoy making love and therefore you prefer toys.

carefreewannabe:

I don't read texts from people who have a low IQ so stop trying.

Cococandy, Jenny, Damiso, Edwife, Ishilove have contradicted so stop embarrassing yourself by repeating that women prefer toys to a good man.

Let us ask some more ladies, I really need you to understand that you are embarrassing yourself.


LADIES, do you prefer toys because you don't enjoy s. ex?

Coogar says you don't enjoy making love and therefore you prefer toys.

If I hear!! No toy can take the place of good ol' tough n' meaty 'manliness'. Absolutely none. Lol

Ishilove:
If I hear!! No toy can take the place of good ol' tough n' meaty 'manliness'. Absolutely none. Lol

Ishilove:
If I hear!! No toy can take the place of good ol' tough n' meaty 'manliness'. Absolutely none. Lol

Naughty girl


Coogar said that wikipedia said that you need your clit to be stimulated and therefore you do not enjoy a man being inside of you. You must be an alien

coogar:


how do you know this?

Maturity.

musKeeto:

What??

carefreewannabe:

Naughty girl


Coogar said that wikipedia said that you need your clit to be stimulated and therefore you do not enjoy a man being inside of you. You must be an alien

Well, I've learnt that we shouldn't believe everything we read. That includes wiki sources

TV01:

Absolutely.
Money (i.e. provision) is an "Alpha" trait that women look for and appreciate in men.

Forget all this talk of equality, where money is a consideration for women (and it is for most), they will have trouble truly feeling a man that can't come up with the goods and make it work for them - even where his financial contribution is greater than hers. And more so where her contribution is greater than his.

Wise use of money can alleviate many issues and keep the woman in the "he's a man" thinking zone. Important in keeping her attraction high.


TV

True true true, especially the bolded. Women keep telling themselves money isn't really a factor when choosing a mate but the facts tell a different story. It is in fact, the most important element in the check list.

carefreewannabe:
I don't read texts from people who have a low IQ so stop trying.

why quote me if you don't read texts from people at all? you are a laboratory rëtard!

Cococandy, Jenny, Damiso, Edwife, Ishilove have contradicted so stop embarrassing yourself by repeating that women prefer toys to a good man.
Let us ask some more ladies, I really need you to understand that you are embarrassing yourself.
LADIES, do you prefer toys because you don't enjoy s. ex?
Coogar says you don't enjoy making love and therefore you prefer toys.

even if all the women on NL claim they reach orgäsm via vagïnal sex, they don't make up to 1% of the women on the planet - so the constant hammering of your question won't achieve anything.

you are a big fool - i wonder why your parents wasted money on your education in the first place. they should have invested the money on the exportation of cowpeas. you shame womanhood if i have to always lecture you on your own body features.

any woman that feels sex can't be painful because the vägina can pop out a baby is a moròn. carelesswannabe, you are a simpleton! i don't even know how you manage to live through the day with your level of idiocy. how do you avoid being crushed by a car when crossing the road - the low level intelligence you display here suggests you would struggle to coordinate your senses to eat when it's dark.

Ishilove:
Maturity.

which maturity?
be deceiving yourself - this is why majority of naija men keep mistresses & rightly so. just because many of them agree to this thing you call "change of orientation" doesn't mean they are not dipping their sausages in other cookie jars.

think about it yourself.....
you have a man that wants sex 6 times a week. then you put up flimsy excuses why you cannot have sex as frequent as you used to.....he suddenly agrees without putting up an argument and you think he's not found solace in the arms of another woman.


ishilove, the writing is on the wall.......

coogar:

why quote me if you don't read texts from people at all? you are a laboratory rëtard!



even if all the women on NL claim they reach orgäsm via vagïnal sex, they don't make up to 1% of the women on the planet - so the constant hammering of your question won't achieve anything.

you are a big fool - i wonder why your parents wasted money on your education in the first place. they should have invested the money on the exportation of cowpeas. you shame womanhood if i have to always lecture you on your own body features.

any woman that feels sex can't be painful because the vägina can pop out a baby is a moròn. carelesswannabe, you are a simpleton! i don't even know how you manage to live through the day with your level of idiocy. how do you avoid being crushed by a car when crossing the road - the low level intelligence you display here suggests you would struggle to coordinate your senses to eat when it's dark.




which maturity?
be deceiving yourself - this is why majority of naija men keep mistresses & rightly so. just because many of them agree to this thing you call "change of orientation" doesn't mean they are not dipping their sausages in other cookie jars.

think about it yourself.....
you have a man that wants sex 6 times a week. then you put up flimsy excuses why you cannot have sex as frequent as you used to.....he suddenly agrees without putting up an argument and you think he's not found solace in the arms of another woman.


ishilove, the writing is on the wall.......

Coogar's girlfriend prefers toys because his joystick is too small.

carefreewannabe:

Coogar's girlfriend prefers toys because his joystick is too small.

and your own boyfriend prefers his vaseline cos the walls of your vägina have collapsed like jericho.

this is why you have been singing size matters everyday. you have been advised, go and get alum and do the needful. kegel won't even solve your issues.

coogar:

and your own boyfriend prefers his vaseline cos the walls of your vägina have collapsed like jericho.

this is why you have been singing size matters everyday. you have been advised, go and get alum and do the needful. kegel won't even solve your issues.

At least his girlfriend DESIRES him more than a plastic toy which cannot be said about you and your girlfriend AS YOU HAVE REPEATED.

coogar:

and your own boyfriend prefers his vaseline cos the walls of your vägina have collapsed like jericho.

this is why you have been singing size matters everyday. you have been advised, go and get alum and do the needful. kegel won't even solve your issues.

carefreewannabe:
At least his girlfriend DESIRES him more than a plastic toy which cannot be said about you and your girlfriend AS YOU HAVE REPEATED.

coogar:

and your own boyfriend prefers his vaseline cos the walls of your vägina have collapsed like jericho.

this is why you have been singing size matters everyday. you have been advised, go and get alum and do the needful. kegel won't even solve your issues.

Both of you go get a room abeg..... Una don use style describe una Instruments finish....wetin remain again?

ceejayluv:

Both of you go get a room abeg..... Una don use style describe una Instruments finish....wetin remain again?

Am sorry. I am out.

carefreewannabe:
At least his girlfriend DESIRES him more than a plastic toy which cannot be said about you and your girlfriend AS YOU HAVE REPEATED.

this is why the internet is such a wonderful place. 80% of the women out there have admitted they have faked orgäsm.....around that percentage of women do not enjoy vagïnal sex.

carefree - stop lying!
on this section, we have found out you make up bunch of lies about yourself. you told us you stay in germany, no you don't! you told us you have a boyfriend, no you don't! were you not the chic begging school fees few weeks ago - based in north cyprus?

carelesswannabe - your name says it all. you are a wannabe. you are as fake as the plastic dïck you keep referring to as your partner's pënis!

coogar:

this is why the internet is such a wonderful place. 80% of the women out there have admitted they have faked orgäsm.....around that percentage of women do not enjoy vagïnal sex.

carefree - stop lying!
on this section, we have found out you make up bunch of lies about yourself. you told us you stay in germany, no you don't! you told us you have a boyfriend, no you don't! were you not the chic begging school fees few weeks ago - based in north cyprus?

carelesswannabe - your name says it all. you are a wannabe. you are as fake as the plastic dïck you keep referring to as your partner's pënis!

Source wikipedia

carefreewannabe:
Source wikipedia

yes this is also wikipedia....

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38006774/ns/health-sexual_health/t/sorry-guys-percent-women-admit-faking-it/

so...sex for marriage don bcom wetin una go dey draw tym table for? Has for me n hubby.........
Anytym he is ready we are good to go....verse versa!!!!

coogar:

yes this is also wikipedia....

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38006774/ns/health-sexual_health/t/sorry-guys-percent-women-admit-faking-it/

Coogar's reasoning

faking orgasm = women do not enjoy s. ex

need for clit stimulation = women do not enjoy penetration

carefreewannabe: This statement implicates that MOST women do not have s. e. x for fun's sake but to achieve something.

Presumaly at some point you'll get to your ideological point of women having sex when they like and with whom the please. Don't worry, I'm not about to slut-shame you . As ever I absolutely accept that you have every right to your beliefs.

The discussion here was about intimate in/compatibility within marriage. It morphed to discuss the things to look for and motivations before marriage and touched heavily on why libido may vary within marriage. My aggregate posts on this thread imply no such thing, the fact you chose to read that into it is a consequence of your muddled ideology and attempt to prove your bona fides .

I have said nothing to suggest I don't think women (1) do not enjoy sex or (2) do not/cannot have sex purely for pleasure. What we have been touching on is the motivation and libido for women about to marry or that are married.

When a couple are merely slutting together, I'd imagine it's all about pleasure. When a womans mind turns to marriage and children (our context here), other motivations creep in and colour the reasons for sex. Your wor-wor ideology may well tell you that women have sex for the exact same reasons as men and should approach it just like men do - please, feel free to knock yourself out!

Just as you previously demonstrated your inability to grasp the concept of matriarchy and made a specatacle of yourself , you have charged in once more to demonstrate your porous thinking; so because we mention that a women may have certain motivations for intimacy it implies we mean she doesn't or can't enjoy it?

carefreewannabe: And you were trying to prove the point by saying that s. e. x decreases after a woman has attained "the end" because she didn't have s.ex for the fun of it, which LOGICALLY implicates that a woman does not enjoy se. x so much.

Nope, I clearly stated that libido varies during a marriage for both couples and for different reasons. Noting that there are obvious and well documented reasons for women to experience this - and typically more reasons than men. I nowhere claimed it's not fun or pleasurable for women just cliamed that there are other motivators before and various other considerations after.

I was very clear that intimacy can still reach dizzying heights but the dynamics of marriage and life itself meant that it proabably wouldn''t be as frequent and take more work. I also asked for married women - especially those with chiuldren - to come and testify.

And a note for men here re the bolded: if a woman marries you out of desperation, merely for what you have, or as a last resort, you will typically not be the picture of the man she feels she deserves. This can seriously affect her real degree of attraction towards you (even if she's like a rabbit pre-marriage), and hence her desire to be intimate when the knot is tied. At the extremes, it can be a trigger for her infidelity. Please choose wisely. 'Nuff said.


Keep bringing it Carefreewannabe - I'm always willing to deliver a good rinsing !


TV

carefreewannabe:
Coogar's reasoning
faking orgasm = women do not enjoy s. ex p
need for clit stimulation = women do not enjoy penetration

if you need to manually stimulate your clitorïs to get desired feeling, why do you need a man at all? how come men don't rub their cöcks after penetration to reach the promised land?

carefree, your brain is situated in the soles of your feet. you can only function properly when you are lying down. when you sit or stand, you have the brain capacity of a slug!