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A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by edoyad(m): 8:43am On Aug 11, 2014 |
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Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by ofala(m): 9:18am On Aug 11, 2014 |
It is very proper to "thank" those that voted or those that are supposed leaders of some ethnic blocks BUT what could be a better thank you? Giving them money for their pockets OR ensuring that generality of Nigerians have at least 12 hours of electricity daily? The need for National rebirth is so glaring and will continue to negatively affect the state,Nigeria till we have leaders who will vow to put the horse before the cart... *As for the ACF, they have right to change persons on their leadership ladder* 2 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Nobody: 9:33am On Aug 11, 2014 |
ACF has no relevance to the middle belt and Christian north. Hausa Fulani have lost the middle belt forever. Onoja knows that. He and the rest of his like are on their own when they sit at the ACF. They represent no one. 8 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by HAH: 10:05am On Aug 11, 2014 |
[quote author=jerseyboy]ACF has no relevance to the middle belt and Christian north. Hausa Fulani have lost the middle belt forever. Onoja knows that. He and the rest of his like are on their own when they sit at the ACF. They represent no one.[/quote My problem with your so called middle. Belt is your opportunism, if today power comes back to the north the same middle belters will start saying they are arewa people. You better take a stance . 4 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by edoyad(m): 10:24am On Aug 11, 2014 |
HAH: I'm struggling to make any sense out of this simplistic generalisation of yours. I take it that every voter in Ekiti opted for PDP and in the case of Osun all voters chose APC ? In case you don't know, many Nigerians decide who they will vote for based on their own free will, driven by many factors. This may not be the case in some areas with very low literacy levels, where the electorate are hearded like sheep to vote based misguided religious interpretations. 4 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Lordlexyy: 10:35am On Aug 11, 2014 |
Go and ask anywhere, an Idoma man or person is never a coward. He stands in what he believes. He's never a backstabber and obviously doesn't speak from both sides of his mouth. Arewa has no relevance to the middle belt. This is an agitation that has been brewing for a very long time. They may have divergents of opinion base on their preferred presidential canditate but apparently, they have been disconnected from the north. It is fruitless and too late now for the north to be pulling up string to hold on the middle belt. The middle belt is independent irrespective of any region and inspite of their cultural differences, they are united more on the basis of their desire and aspiration for equality and justice something that is allien to the Hausa muslims. 5 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by HAH: 10:38am On Aug 11, 2014 |
edoyad: We are talking of an ACF member who went to endorse GEJ while ACF have a stance of not supporting him. The ACF have every right to expel that member. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by manmade(m): 10:51am On Aug 11, 2014 |
ofala: It is very proper to "thank" those that voted or those that are supposed leaders of some ethnic blocks BUT what could be a better thank you? Giving them money for their pockets OR ensuring that generality of Nigerians have at least 12 hours of electricity daily?u can do better than the above remarks, does ACF also have the right on deciding who contest or who doesn't contest for the president ? 2 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Lordlexyy: 10:53am On Aug 11, 2014 |
[quote author=HAH][/quote] Well, i don't know how old you are or how long you have stayed in the country, but it will interest you to know that the term middle belt and its formation isn't an accidental birth but a stance that out lived the independent of this great country. Therefore, to stand on the premise that their loyalty is base on which region produces the president shows you are ignorant about history and reality. 3 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by ofala(m): 10:57am On Aug 11, 2014 |
My brother, my point there is that the removal of any of their members from whatever position is their in-house situation.. What really captured my thoughts there is that supposed opinion leaders are "tricked" to Abj and allegedly bribed in whatever guise while so much in the very fabrics of our National lives are decaying/screaming for attention... manmade: u can do better than the above remarks, does ACF also have the right on deciding who contest or who doesn't contest for the president ? |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Lordlexyy: 11:08am On Aug 11, 2014 |
jerseyboy: ACF has no relevance to the middle belt and Christian north. Hausa Fulani have lost the middle belt forever. Onoja knows that. He and the rest of his like are on their own when they sit at the ACF. They represent no one.Your head correct! And the elders that still grace ACF meetings does so for political crumbs. General Onoja's reaction is simply a reflection of the general feelings among the youths with respect to the north. Anyone who still co joined the two regions does so out of malice, self interest or sheer ignorance, as the cord binding them had long been broken. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by HAH: 11:10am On Aug 11, 2014 |
Lordlexyy: Well, i don't know how old you are or how long you have stayed in the country, but it will interest you to know that the term middle belt and its formation isn't an accidental birth but a stance that out lived the independent of this great country, so stand on the premise that their loyalty is base on which region produces the president shows you are ignorant about history and reality. Middle belt is just another name for Christian northerners association, if not how can someone from Michika or Biu be claiming middle belt, kwarans don't call themselve middle belt they either align with west or call themselves north central ,same with Niger people they don't call themselves middle belt but north central, the only states that call themselves middle belt are those from former Benue-Plateau state. And I repeat Middle belt is an opportunistic Body depending on where the pendulum swings, if a northerners is president they are northerners if not they are against north. Most of your so called Middle Belt leader were made who they are by northerners, including Onoja ,Mark,Jang check your history books tell me one Middle belt leader that has not benefited from northern leadership. 1 Like |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Plus10(m): 11:22am On Aug 11, 2014 |
The president has the constitutional right to seek for second term.As for Onoja,he also has the right to make decision on who to support as far as it's based on individual's choice. 2 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Lordlexyy: 11:28am On Aug 11, 2014 |
ofala: My brother, my point there is that the removal of any of their members from whatever position is their in-house situation..If you had read the whole article, you probably have read where the General said that his endorsement of the President is a personal decision outside of whatever agreement they had at ACF. Whatever you choose to call his action, one is clear and that is, Mr. Onoja never cease to tell anyone who cares to listen on his support for the President, a position Acf know of beside, he isn't only a member of ACF but also a respected leader in the Middle forum, a body that is directly opposite to the ACF. He only exercise his constitutional franchise without apology, fear or favour and openly too, that to me is an act of bravery, and if ACF felt betrayed, which offcourse is their business, they can simply relieved him of his membership which is approriate since the General's body had always been there but his soul had long taken a dive. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Lordlexyy: 11:52am On Aug 11, 2014 |
HAH:Earlier, i politely ask you of your age. If you are old enough then you should know that the agitation for middle belt was in vouge while the northern oligarch were still passing the baton of power. This thing didn't start today and to accuse them as opportunists is evident of your knowledge of history. Secondly, to say some middle belt individuals benefitted from the north openly displayed the politics of nepotism and selection leaders in the north are known for where you get consideration on the bases of your affiliation with them. This obviously is the prejudice or discrimination that the middle belt is running from. The potentials in the region both human and material are inestimable and only an opportunity to have their political will that they can unlocked all these treasures. Kwara or Niger may not claim the middle belt due to the forbearance of the hausa/fulani influence, but they are a small fraction of the bigger picture. 1 Like |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by edoyad(m): 12:00pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
HAH: You failed to mention Southern Kaduna, Most of Taraba , Parts of Kebbi etc. Whether you accept it or not, these areas were ripped off during the delineation of our internal regions. Tell me what a youth from Kano has in common, socially, ideologically or historically with one from Jos, Gboko or Kafanchan. The only thing you can use to lump these people together is the fact that Hausa, which spread as a result of commercial activities was widely used and is still used in many of these places. But if you choose to use that , there is a local government in Benue, Ogbadigbo where you can find indigenes, who have never left their towns speaking Yoruba fluently. What do we say then ? 1 Like |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Nobody: 12:07pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
death, why did you take Achebe na? The man could have written "North falls apart" one hand, and "There was A North" on the other! This is good news, let the Middle Belt take their destiny into their hands! Jihradists have no friends except fellow Jihatdists! ACF is a Jihardist organisation! 3 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by HAH: 12:46pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
edoyad: I don't know how you derive your boundary but you will be economical with the truth to tell me that a part of Kebbi state is in the middle of Nigeria unless you don't know your elementary geography of Nigeria. Simple as I said earlier Middle belt is Association of northen christian |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by edoyad(m): 1:13pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
Regardless of where I draw my boundaries from, whether it is an Association of Northern Christians or Animist, one fact remains, it is real and is in existence. It is this type of denial that has put the far North bottom of every available chart. The North will deny every available statistic on education, poverty , disease and what not. It is the type of reasoning that culminates in Clerics telling their flock that their problems are caused by other regions, other religions and other countries. Just look how far that has gotten us. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Nobody: 1:30pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
Ok. What they are saying indirectly is that ACF is against the Jonathan Presidency. ACF, please who is for Boko Haram?... |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Nobody: 1:33pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
Ok. What they are saying indirectly is that ACF is against the Jonathan Presidency. ACF, please who is for Boko Haram?... And, since when did it become an offence to visit the beautiful people in the villa?**in FFK's voice** I think the baba is just angry that Onoja and Co went before him to partake in the largess. Nigerians should get ready to laugh over the way a lot of politicians will recant their positions for money, as we approach 2015. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by usba: 1:39pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
It is a pity any descent individual would be assuring Ebola Jonathan that his utterly useless leadership is still wanted! |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Nobody: 1:48pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
Is the arewa consultative forum a political party that her members cannot endorse members of other political parties? |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by FunnyPikincom(m): 2:28pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
One thing these Northern Christian and Igbo supporting GEJ doesnt know is that even if Jonathan Win his second term in 2015, He wont support them... Mark my words... I look forward to a day when a Northern Christian become Nigerian President and South South Muslim From Auchi do same |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by VICTORCIZA(m): 2:55pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
middle belt is no longer under the control of acf. middle belt for Gej 2 Likes |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Validated: 3:09pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
HAH: The appellation 'Middle Belt' does not necessarily mean that the region is exactly in the middle of Nigerian map. It would then be wrong to class Delta, Edo, Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom as South-South if we adopt your analogy. Middle Belt represents those minority groups in the North especially in the Benue basin / Kwara / Kogi axis, some part of Kebbi and Niger State, Plateau, especially Christians within these regions. Although you can call these people as Arewa, but for political alignment, the whole Arewa is divided into North East, North West and North Central or Middle Belt. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Yazmin: 8:17pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
Association of Confused Fathers.....ACF! |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by teskyg: 8:46pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
We are with you Onoja.Hausa fulani can not continue to push us to support their selfish intrest.Am proud of your stands and no body can push you against your wish.Everybody has the right to support and decide who the prefer.Middle belt will support GEJ till 2030 if we want . 1 Like |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by ojinuocheibi(m): 9:33am On Sep 25, 2014 |
HAH:if the north made the middlebelt leaders what the are then Who made the north what it is? the north is finish for ever. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by philantoxx(m): 10:07am On Sep 25, 2014 |
onoja did the needful.dead ACF. |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by Omololu007(m): 10:30am On Sep 25, 2014 |
Validated:HAH has said it all,middle belt is anoda name for christian northerners association,if u fink dey represent d minorities in arewa,why cant we hav minorities muslim communities from yobe,borno,adamawa etc.... |
Re: A.C.F. Sacks Gen. Onoja For Endorsing Jonathan, "Sell Out" "You're Broke" by ebgbest(m): 10:56am On Sep 25, 2014 |
[quote author=HAH] We are talking of an ACF member who went to endorse GEJ while ACF have a stance of not supporting him. The ACF have every right to expel that member LEARN HW TO READ+UNDERSTAND He endorse GEJ under meddle belt forum nt ACF |
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