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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by beeboy09(m): 2:27pm On Aug 12, 2014
With only 10 confirmed cases the US cannot just give us this experimental drug for these few? Totally Bias.
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Chimoski87(m): 2:40pm On Aug 12, 2014
bigx
No gay marriage, no ZMAPP

You finished the work here bro as you just spoke my mind. America is after their own hidden agenda in the world that's why if you do not accept any trash they support, you won't get anything from them. Let's take a look at the $110m grant the released for Africa, is it not surprising that Nigeria & Zimbabwe which has passed a law against homosexuality were exempted from it whereas poor Uganda who last week or thereabout said that their own anti-homosexuality law passed in its assembly didn't follow due process & therefore quashed it has been included. I don't blame the yankees but our leaders & in particular our deranged youths who have sworn to be bootlickers of politicians embezzling our collective resources. I am also worried that even the zmapp given to the Liberian government is a non-tested one whereas the one they used on their citizen has already been tested on a monkey
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Maonyz(f): 3:08pm On Aug 12, 2014
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The Minister of Health, Prof. Onyebuchi Chukwu, advised Nigerians to avoid handshake as much as possible, stating that the virus is both contagious and infectious. He also said the virus could also be contracted through the sharing of bedspreads, pillow cases and towels among other personal effects with infected person. He said the disease is not airborne but at close range of a 1meter from an infected person, the disease droplets can be transmitted.

According to MedicalWorldNigeria....The outbreak of Ebola, which emerged in March, spread to Nigeria in late July when Patrick Sawyer, a 40-year-old American of Liberian descent, flew from Liberia's capital to the megacity of Lagos. Authorities in Lagos now claim eight people who came in contact with the deceased U.S. citizen Patrick Sawyer are showing signs of the deadly disease.

Lagos State Commissioner for Health, Dr Jide Idris says Ebola situation in Lagos is 'extremely dire.'
At a press briefing held in Lagos this week, the Commissioner said the Nigerian nurse who died of the Ebola virus died at exactly 2.06pm Monday in Lagos. He said Health officials have begun 'secondary contact tracing", that is, tracking down people who came in contact with people who had direct contact with the late Liberian, Patrick Sawyer, the first case of Ebola virus in Lagos.

Over 22 Nigerians who came in contact with the dead Liberian are suspected to be infected by the virus already and are kept under strict observation. All these people have families and friends whom they must have come in contact with too!
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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by anonymous6(f): 3:13pm On Aug 12, 2014
Thank God they have a cure now
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by codeworks(m): 3:19pm On Aug 12, 2014
ebdib:

Your brain needs a vaccine

yrvs
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 3:26pm On Aug 12, 2014
lafuria1: Lab rats, Smh, what happened to people when Pfizer came with their meningitis trial drug comes to mind.

But in this desperate times, they have no choice but should be prepared for any side effects.

its fools like you that make me puke...all your african drs and native drs cant produce shit,no body ibn your family has produced a pill for the virus and when someone does who has a different skin or nationality to yours,you cry us a river about conspiracy theory..When America refused Nigeria the drug,I am 100% certain you were one of those calling America names but as soon as they give it to Liberians,you cry lab rat...where else would they have tried the drug based on the urgency on groundUSA...they have just 2 patients and that number is not enough to know how efficient the drug is...you talk about Pfeizer like they got away with what they did to the people when the opposite is the case
"Abdullahi v. Pfizer, Inc.
Main article: Abdullahi v. Pfizer, Inc.

In 1996, an outbreak of measles, cholera, and bacterial meningitis occurred in Nigeria. Pfizer representatives traveled to Kano, Nigeria to administer an experimental antibiotic, trovafloxacin, to approximately 200 children. Local Kano officials report that more than 50 children died in the experiment, while many others developed mental and physical deformities.[87] The nature and frequency of both fatalities and other adverse outcomes were similar to those historically found among pediatric patients treated for meningitis in sub-Saharan Africa.[88] In 2001, families of the children, as well as the governments of Kano and Nigeria, filed lawsuits regarding the treatment.[89] Representing the government is Babatunde Irukera. According to news reports, "[r]esearchers did not obtain signed consent forms, and medical personnel said Pfizer did not tell parents their children were getting the experimental drug."[90] The lawsuits also accuse Pfizer of using the outbreak to perform unapproved human testing, as well as allegedly under-dosing a control group being treated with traditional antibiotics in order to skew the results of the trial in favor of Trovan. Pfizer denied these claims, and subsequently produced an approval letter for testing from the Nigerian Ethics Committee. The Nigerian government insisted that it was a fake and a panel of Nigerian medical experts agreed that the letter had been concocted and backdated by the company's lead researcher in Kano. They went on to conclude that Pfizer never obtained authorization from the Nigerian government to give the unproven drug to children and infants.[91]

In 2007, Pfizer published a Statement of Defense letter.[92] The letter makes several claims, including that Pfizer donated 18 million in Nigerian Naira (NGN) (about $216,000 in 1996 US dollars (USD)),[93] that the drug's oral form was presented as safer and easier to administer, that the administration of Trovan saved lives, and that no unusual side effects, unrelated to meningitis, were observed after 4 weeks.

In June 2010, the US Supreme Court rejected Pfizer's appeal against a ruling allowing lawsuits by the Nigerian families to proceed.[94]

In December 2010, WikiLeaks released US diplomatic cables, which indicate that Pfizer had "used dirty tricks to avoid clinical trial payout". The company had hired investigators to find evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general to persuade him to drop legal action.[95] Washington Post reporter Joe Stephens, who helped break the story in 2000, called these actions "dangerously close to blackmail."[90] In response, the company has released a press statement describing the allegations as "preposterous" and stating that they acted in good faith.[96]"

copied from wikipedia

Pfeizer is a company and not the US govt and did you see how your people sold themselves out

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 3:29pm On Aug 12, 2014
Shhhon: Y wuld USA send untested drugs to africa.
Dy r turning africans into experimental
Animals!!!

what drugs to combat the illness have you developed...even your drs are busy running away from patients and when someone decides to come help your deluded sorry asses,you spew rubbish

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by mmark12(m): 3:42pm On Aug 12, 2014
milehigh06:

what drugs to combat the illness have you developed...even your drs are busy running away from patients and when someone decides to come help your deluded sorry asses,you spew rubbish

100% agree with you, dont mind them. if the USA doesnt help they will accuse them of racism, now the USA is helping, the same lowlifes are spewing load of rubbish. where are the Nigerian doctors

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 3:58pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=ak4God]
America want to control the world by all means.

They have been ruling the world since 1948, you are too ignorant to notice


Pls how do we come about this Ebola in the first place?They said through Monkeys,apes animals etc,but are there no monkeys or animals in America?Maybe they re of different species.Infact they have more contacts with these animals than us.They practise bestiality(Having sex with animals),which is a taboo in Africa.The other time they said we should not eat chicken again because of flu,but i could remember when i was younger in the early 80s and 90s when you see any chicken exihibiting a strange symptons(KOLI) we killed the chicken instantly and eat it,nothing happened to us,why is it that now they are saying we cant eat bush meat,chicken and so on?

Since the Virus use these animals as host, it is normal for the Animals to be infected the reason you are advised to stay away from them at least for now, look at how it works, it is simple food chain.
A fruit bat picks a palm fruit on the tree, the fruit falls to the ground, a squirrel eats and gets infected, you eat squirrel and you are gone. OR the squirrel or fruit bat excretes on the grass and releases the virus, the grass cutter eats and becomes a host, you eat grass cutter and you get infected.
Untreated contaminated medical waste will give to the big rat, the cat in your house eats the big rat, and prolly some cat eaters will get it from there. when you stop eating them for a period of time, all the carrier hosts will die with the virus and the new population will be free from the virus.



Also anytime they want to discover any sickness,its always from Black African"s country,why not Egypt,Libya,Tunisia,Algeria and so on?
The fact is that most of these so called researchers go into laboratories and prepare one virus,at the same time the ANTI VIRUS,then take flight to AFRICA,inject the animal they wanted and release the animal back into the forest,then a hunter killed the animal with excitement shared eat among his family or sell it,then virus starts spreading,whereby the Americans have the Anti virus already,Then overnight they claimed to have found the solutions.

This opinion can only thrive in an ignorant mind, they discover these sicknesses in Africa because we are too lazy, ignorant and helpless to do it our self. let me ask you, does Nigeria have an international research team in Europe and America? how are you gonna discover their diseases when you are not even looking for it? here are a few organizations who have a research team on the ground in Africa.
HPRO,IDRC,GRA and OSSERA, to mention but a few.

So when they find one, they inform you, advise you on the mode of its transmission because of course they have studied it for a while, they get the cure and sometimes give it to you free, like the case of ARV, in your unappreciative, disgruntled, ignorant mind, you are still begging for the Zmapp, but they discovered the Ebola Virus since 1976, they did not hide it from you, they warned you and left, what did you do?
you went to sleep, do you know what they did? they took some samples and went into a research, after 11yrs they came out with an unproven cure, guess what you are doing? you are begging like a leper, for a cure that is not certain? shouldn't you be ashamed of yourself?

Are you aware that all the people who have received the Zmapp so far all got it free? a drug that was developed with a grant of $28million? you see why a black man is a blind man, you hear but you don't see, you see but you don't think, when you think, you are lost in confusion and unfounded conspiracy theories.
You said they injected it in your population? why would they do it? what were you doing while they were doing it? how many have you developed and returned to their population, or you don't travel? why is it easy to dump it in Africa but not in south America or Asia with higher populations? can you start using your head from here now that you have a clue!!





What we are experincing now is called MENTAL SLAVERY.Forget all these stories and aids they are given.It has been premeditated
So AFRICA,All that glitters is not gold,SHINE YOUR EYE!!


You are wrong, nobody is experiencing mental slavery with you, you are in your own moral wilderness where you lack not just common sense, but education and logic, the reason you lack panoramic solutions.
You take pride in peddling conspiracy theorems and begging while sane people are in the labs doing what they know best.
It wont be long before the west will build cage for people like you whose ignorance is contagious. Dumbo!!

Be grateful for once, Africa has failed Mankind long before Ebola came.

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by lastpage: 4:03pm On Aug 12, 2014
SirShymex:

Sir, I honestly don't think the Ebola virus is a biological weapon,............
...........

I agree with you, Africans need to get busy or die. Life expectancy on the continent keeps dropping every year and it's only going to get worse. And I'd wager that most Africans are either sick or walking dead, but most don't know.

Shalom!

SirShymex,

I have read everything you wrote but dont ot want to quote it verbatim, just to save space.
In as much as l agree with most of what you wrote, l still want us to ponder on a few "salient" questions"

1.) Monkey and rats are not new species in Africa, they have been around for ages. .... and we have been eating them in their various forms of "bush meat". Some people even eat snakes (and it is not unique to Africans alone, Chinese people eat Lizards and all sorts of "bush meat".)
So first question is: WHEN did,... and HOW did these "bush meats" have/develop the virus or when and how did they become "host" to these virus?

2.)As a follow-up question, Ebola specifically, infected humans for the first time in the Congo about 1976. If we take the theory that it was caused by Monkeys and/or Bats, how come that generations of Africans, who have been eating these 'bush meats' NEVER were infected with Ebola, for generations, before that time?

3.) Africans eat everything available! grin Like some one pointed out, if a "country-chicken" starts to misbehave and acting funny (that infection that kills them but first makes them twist their neck and swirl around in circles before they eventually die ... "Kooli" in Yoruba), we simply slaughter it and eat it.... both the Chicken and its infection! How come we did not develop Ebola or some other variants of the Kooli infection since then?

4.) HIV was alien to Africa and probably the whole world until of recent and like all other "incurable disease", why must it have to originate from Africa?...... to be "detected and curable" by the Americans ..al the time?

Now, my apologies but l think anyone who is NOT prepared to at least "examine the plausibility" of the theory that "Africans, due to our own carelessness-induced poverty, have been turned to a 'Human Guinea Pig" for the cultivation and testing of various types of Bio-Weapons, by the West, especially America, is playing the Ostrich.

Some will quickly tag it 'conspiracy theory" but l say, "At least, just look into the possibility", using logical reasoning based on some "coincidences", over time, which could probably give you a timeline that connects the t's and dot's?

One poster, "@Musilimu" (Muslim? shocked ) posted something about Tulane research and no one is researching it to see if the post was even true or fabricated? We are an endangered species and we cant afford to be "sheeple" like most Americans who believe ONLY what their govt tells them, using the Faux news, CNN, CBC, e.t.c, whether true or fabricated!

I am open to "all sources of information" and will take time to read-up on each one, do my own independent research and form an INFORMED OPINION of my own, based on what l have read and deciphered.
But most people condemn and trash information, simply because they dont like the "messenger"!

Many declassified information has shown that Americans have "experimented" on all sorts of dangerous things, from Chemical weapons, to Biological weapons and will go to great lengths to HIDE these experiments, from the Guinea Pigs, who incidentally happen to be blacks, being the most poverty stricken and illiterate breed of humans on earth!!

Some years recent, Dolphins and Whales (large sea animals)suddenly started "beaching and dying" without any explanations, from Nigeria to South Africa, to Spain! Well, there were suggestions that the Americans who were working nearby on a different project in SA, were actually testing new Biological weapons using Sonar! When it became "news", though the Americans never accepted but they stopped their work and the animal death also stooped! Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not

For a nation that has "tested" banned munitions and new variants on people in Iraq and Afghanistan (White Phosphorus, e.t.c), on Vietnamese (Agent Orange) and Japanese long ago, NOTHING IS BEYOND THEM and to just brush it aside can be our greatest undoing.

I do not hate America, l have travelled there a few times on Holiday and am still going, just like l travel to other countries around the world when l have the time, but that does not mean we cant "discuss" them and what they do.

I am inclined to think that the "new" Ebola Virus outbreak in Liberia and Sierra Leone was a "Lab-testing" of a biological weapon otherwise, how come the American Defence Department was involved in the work of Zmapp, if it was just plain, normal corporate research and not Bio-weapons??

Again, l think they just needed to go the next step, which is "human testing", something they cant do in the U.S, by injecting the Virus into the Monkeys, knowing fully well that 'Africans are bush meat eaters" and will unknowingly eat the Monkeys at a stage and the Monkeys will spread it around amongst themselves anyway! wink wink

Now, imagine if America was not aware that "it has a cure in-place", do you think they will allow a possible "INCURABLE biological catastrophe" to be brought on American soil, (rather than experiment with the treatment Abroad orin africa were it originated and people got infected), like they quickly asked the two SafePurse health workers to be brought to Atlanta? NEVER, its not in American nature to do so
If a plane load of WHITE Americans were to pose an "existential threat" to America, they would bomb it out of the Sky without blinking an eye.
I tell you, they knew what they were doing from day-1. undecided undecided

Just like "Security Companies" who manufacture "Anti-Virus Software", it is feasible that they would actually manufacture the "virus first" in the Lab, have enough time to develop a cure and probably "release the virus" to the world through a "third party" and then claim they have done research on the virus and can cure it ...... of course, for a good fee! wink

In America's case, that "fee" would or may not be monetary but global control and dominance!

In war, everything and anything is possible..... and Africa is at war with civilization and dominance.

Someone said, if it were possible to remove TWO THINGS from the World, the world will be a Paradise:
1) ISLAM,as a religion!
2.) Black Humans!!

Now, l am not defending either of the two above but if you look at American policy, subtly, it is trying to achieve both, in a very "humane, democratic and civilized way"! grin grin wink

Anyway, l still cant blame anyone for my own failures, if after so many years l still cant figure it out and solve my problem!
All these my "finger-pointing" is just for awareness alone, it does not solve the real problem.
The solution lies with we Africans looking ourselves in the eye and saying: Look, you don phuck-up big time, NOW SIT UP and TAKE YOUR PLACE AMONGST NATIONS, FROM NOW ON!

That wont be easy, because there are "forces" whose"interests" are "diametrically opposed" to that, ...but we have no choice really!
Patrice Mulumba, Jonas Savimbi, Maumar Ghadafi tried it, Allende of Chile and many more who tried it, got murdered, directly or indirectly by "you-know-whom"?
You wont get any cookies for guessing right. grin grin

Cheers Bro and nice day.

Lastpage!

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 4:07pm On Aug 12, 2014
onatisi: The simple message and solution is that africa needs to start looking inwards for solutions to her problems . Africa can't continue looking and relying on the west for solutions to every problem confronting her. Our goverments in africa must start doing the right things to make african nations fully independent of the west

It cannot happen when the population of dumb Africans remains on the increase, First step, do away with democracy, that will silence the dumb fvcks in Africa.
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 4:10pm On Aug 12, 2014
GenBuhari: [size=28pt]Ebola may or may not be a hoax, all I can say is that I have not yet seen a video of someone on youtube dying the horrible death they claim, all the people I have ever seen are either remarkably well or dead and covered.

I am however convince that the Ebola epidemic is hoax / propaganda

I think that USA / western Europe wants to sell expensive vaccines to Africa, this vaccines are probably what will really kill people.

People please open your eyes.[/size]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUvxsqcsWoc&list=UUMQOLBMYxeVLCX3cUWfmbOQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoHdX3uAYKo&list=UUMQOLBMYxeVLCX3cUWfmbOQ


Association of goats

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by mmark12(m): 4:15pm On Aug 12, 2014
lastpage:

SirShymex,

I have read everything you wrote but dont ot want to quote it verbatim, just to save space.
In as much as l agree with most of what you wrote, l still want us to ponder on afew "salient" questions"

1.) Monkey and rats are not new species in Africa, they have been around for ages. .... and we have been eating them in their various forms of "bush meat". Some people even eat snakes (and it is not unique to Africans alone, Chinese people eat Lizards and all sorts of "bush meat".)
So first question is: WHEN did,... and HOW did these "bush meats" have/develop the virus or when and how did they become "host" to these virus?

2.)As a follow-up question, Ebola specifically, infected humans for the first time in the Congo about 1976. If we take the theory that it was caused by Monkeys and/or Bats, how come that generations of Africans who have been eating these 'bush meats' NEVER were infetcted with Ebola, for generations, before that?

3.) Africans eat everything available! grin Liek some one pointed out, if a "country-chicken" starts to misbehave and acting funny (that infection that kills them but makes them twist their neck and swirl around in circles before they eventually die ... "Kooli" in Yoruba), we simply slaughter it and eat it.... both the Chicken and its infection! How come we did not develop Ebola or some other variants of the Kooli infection?

4.) HIV was alien to Africa and probably the whole world until of recent and like all other "incurable disease", why must it have to originate from Africa?...... to be "detected and curable" by the Americans ..al the time?

Now, my apologies but l think anyone who is NOT prepared to at least "examine the plausibility" of the theory that "Africans, due to our own carelessness-induced poverty, have been turned to a 'Human Guinea Pig" for the cultivation and testing of various types of Bio-Weapons, by the West, especially America, is playing the Ostrich.

some will quickly tag it 'conspiracy theory" but l say, "At least, just look into the possibility", using logical reasoning based on some "coincidences", over time, which could probably give you a timeline that connects the t's and dot's?

One poster, 'Musilimu" (Muslim? shocked ) posted something about Tulane research and no one is researching it to see if the post was even true or fabricated? We are an endangered species and we cant afford to be "sheeple" like most Americans who beleive ONLY what their govt tells them, true or fabricated!
I am open to "all sources of information" and will take time to read-up on each one, do my own independent research and form an INFORMED OPINION of my own, based on what l have read and deciphered.
But most people condemn and trash information, simply because they dont like the "messenger"!

Many declassified information has shown that Americans have "experimented" on all sorts of dangerous things, from Chemical weapons, to Biological weapons and will go to great lengths to HIDE this experiments, from the Guinea Pigs, who incidentally happen to be blacks, being the most poverty stricken and illiterate breed on humans on earth!!

Some years recent, Dolphins and Whales (large sea animals)suddenly started "beaching and dying" without any explanations, from Nigeria to South Africa to Spain! Well, there were suggestions that the Americans who were working nearby on a different project, were actually testing new Biological weapons using Sonar! When it became "news", though the Americans never accepted but they stopped their work and the animal death also stooped! Coincidence?

For a nation that "tested" banned munitions and new variants on people in Iraq and Afghanistan (White Phosphorus, e.t.c), on Vietnamese (Agent orange) and Japanese long ago, NOTHING IS BEYOND THEM and to just brush it aside can be our greatest undoing.
I do not hate America, l have travelled there a few times on Holiday and am still going, just like l travel to other countries around the world when l have the time, but that does not mean we can "discuss' them and what they do.

I am inclined to think that the "new" Ebola Virus outbreak in Liberia and Sierra Leone was a "Lab-testing" of a biological weapon otherwise, how come the American Defence Department was involved in the work of Zmapp?

Again, l think they just needed to go the next step, which is "human testing", something they cant do in the U.S, by injecting the Virus into the Monkeys, knowing fully well that 'Africans are bush meat eaters" and will unknowingly eat the Monkey at a stage and the Monkeys wil spread it around amongst themselves anyway! wink wink

Now, imagine if America was not aware that "it has a cure in-place", do you think they will allow a possible "INCURABLE biological catastrophe" to be brought on American soil, (rather than experiment with treatment Abroad), like they quickly asked the two safePurse health workers to be brought to Atlanta? NEVER, its not in American
I tell you, they knew what they were doing from day-1.

Just like "Security Companies" who manufacture "Anti-Virus Software", it is feasible that they would actually manufacture the "virus first" in the Lab, have enough time to develop a cure and probably "release the virus" to the world through a "third party" and then claim they have done research on the virus and can cure it ...... of course, for a good fee! wink

In America's case, that "fee" would or may not be monetary but global control and dominance!

In war, everything and anything is possible..... and Africa is at war with civilization and dominance.

Someone said, if it were possible to remove TWO THINGS from the World, the world will be a Paradise:
1) ISLAM as a religion!
2.) Black Humans!!

Now, l am not defending either of the two above but if you look at American policy, subtly, it is trying to achieve both, in a very "humane, democratic and civilized way"! grin grin wink

Anyway, l still cant blame anyone for my own failures, if afterso many years l cant figure it out and solve my problem!
All these my "finger-pointing" is just for awareness alone, it does not solve the real problem.
The solution lies with we Africans looking ourselves in the eye and saying: Look, you don phuck-up big time, NOW SIT UP and TAKE YOUR PLACE AMONGST NATIONS, FROM NOW ON!

That wont be easy, because there are "forces" whose"interests" are "diametrically opposed" to that, ...but we have no choice really!
Patrice Mulumba, Jonas Savimbi, Maumar Ghadafi tried it, Allende of Chile and many more who tried it, got murdered, directly or indirectly by "you-know-whom"?
You wont get any cookies for guessing right. grin grin

Cheers Bro and nice day.

Lastpage!

This is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. why are your sources or evidence to suggest Ebola is the result of Lab testing.
for Goodness sake think and analyze the issue, Ebola spread within West Africa because we live in the 21st century ( Modern Transportation) not 11th century.

Stop blaming America and the west for your personal failures (being an Olodo and making Olodo -like statements) and Africa's failures in containing the spread. America is not your babysister that u can blame for your misery.

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by lastpage: 4:32pm On Aug 12, 2014
mmark12:

This is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. why WHERE are your sources or evidence to suggest Ebola is the result of Lab testing.
for Goodness sake think and analyze the issue, Ebola spread within West Africa because we live in the 21st century ( Modern Transportation) not 11th century.

Stop blaming America and the west for your personal failures (being an Olodo and making Olodo -like statements) and Africa's failures in containing the spread. America is not your babysister that u can blame for your misery.

And the above are your own "EVIDENCE/SOURCES" to disprove my post?

Haaaah, look at what ASUU strike and Cultism/Expo in Nigerian Universities has caused!
No wonder the British Army felt they dont need a dunce like you! grin grin https://www.nairaland.com/1329183/want-join-british-army

Anyway, enjoy your own "5mins", it is allowed. wink

Lastpage!

BTW: I particularly addressed my post to SirShymex, if you notice, for a reason.... not to "Imbecilic Morons" like you!

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Chigold101(m): 4:54pm On Aug 12, 2014
emeka94: Let's just hope and pray that d drug has no long or short term side effect.


But Africa we need wake up from slumber.

We criticise US as being evil yet we run to them when wahala set. Life really is an irony
they created ebola and send it to west africa with nigeria as their target. They can now send the trial drug to liberia cos they have achieved their primary TARGET which is Nigeria
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 5:03pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=SirShymex]

Sir, I honestly don't think the Ebola virus is a biological weapon, though I might be wrong. It seems the virus came from bats and monkeys(there are four different variants) and I believe other parts of the world have also had similar experiences with similar viruses. However, what isn't clear is how it has been able to mutate to affect humans, just as the SIV from monkeys became HIV in humans. I think that's the broken link where people allude to HIV as being a biological weapon(somewhat plausible for HIV based on some declassified files about the experimentation of a similar virus in the Congo in the 60's and the Soviet Union also claimed in 1986 that HIV was secretly developed at Fort Detrick, the US Army’s biological warfare unit) - but I doubt Ebola has the same origin.

Mutation has been around for a long time you just need to do a little research to get some details, If I had time I would have given you a list of pathogens that have existed like that in different species, lastly HIV is not a virus, it is a retro virus which allows it to mutate easily.


Also, throughout history, humanity has been plagued with many strange diseases. And I believe we as Africans are at the stage Europe was at in medieval times before it lost over half of its population to Black Death. The people were overly religious back then like Africans, but after seeing all their priests dying, and Churches getting emptier by day, they embraced researches and working smart to solve their problems. That's the crossroad Africans are at right now. We've got Malaria, Polio, HIV, Tuberculosis, Cholera etc. killing millions of Africans annually, yet no one cares and absolutely nothing has been done in terms of looking for ways to alleviate these plagues/diseases which are more less African today. And now Ebola - yet no one is doing anything about it, and it's still about begging everywhere, and once the smoke clears, it's back to business as usual.

If you believed that Europe has had a fair share of their own Epidermic worse than Africans, who was testing their biological weapons then? ROME?
I agree with the part that Africans are sleeping, it is not just in the area of research and health care, in all the facets of life, from west Africa, to the east , North to the south.
If Britain didn't stay longer and handing over to the white south Africans, they wouldn't have attained this level, Egypt is boasting as the military power house of Africa and Arab league but without US military aid, Egypt is nothing, same in all Facets, The American University in Cairo was ranked the best Universities in Africa for a very long time then, tell me who laid the foundation? since it fell off, which local Egyptian University have taken over? NONE!!

SA has the best universities in Africa today, none of the top ranked ones came from the ANC govt, it is still the white that did everything for them. The black man is always sleeping when he wakes he trades blame, once tired, he starts peddling conspiracy theories.

Nigeria is not worthy of mention else you throw up!



I agree with you, Africans need to get busy or die. Life expectancy on the continent keeps dropping every year and it's only going to get worse. And I'd wager that most Africans are either sick or walking dead, but most don't know.

Shalom!

Considering the number of m0r0ns i see daily on African roads and here on Nairaland, you are not far from the truth. Ignorance is so deep seated in Africans, try other European or American fora, you hear people talking sane, dissecting facts with logic, once you come here, first you will think they are toddlers, next they will degenerate to sounding like animals, and you think those dvmb fvcks will ever make a breakthrough in science? fantasy reloaded!
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Chigold101(m): 5:06pm On Aug 12, 2014
Last page i will copy of ur points in one of my write up. I remember how they tested a biological weapon in cameroon in 1986 that killed every thing and everybody that lives around wum. Ebola is lab designed...
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 5:10pm On Aug 12, 2014
Chimoski87: bigx
No gay marriage, no ZMAPP

You finished the work here bro as you just spoke my mind. America is after their own hidden agenda in the world that's why if you do not accept any trash they support, you won't get anything from them. Let's take a look at the $110m grant the released for Africa, is it not surprising that Nigeria & Zimbabwe which has passed a law against homosexuality were exempted from it whereas poor Uganda who last week or thereabout said that their own anti-homosexuality law passed in its assembly didn't follow due process & therefore quashed it has been included. I don't blame the yankees but our leaders & in particular our deranged youths who have sworn to be bootlickers of politicians embezzling our collective resources. I am also worried that even the zmapp given to the Liberian government is a non-tested one whereas the one they used on their citizen has already been tested on a monkey

That is very myopic to say the least, Last year, David Cameron made a passionate appeal to world leaders to stop giving aids to Nigeria because of corruption, they said that Nigeria has nothing to show for all they have been given, more so, Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, do you really want to compare her with Uganda?
Any loan Nigeria gets from the west lately comes with a huge price tag, the reason they are now running to china. My question is this; If you felt shortchanged in their Aids distribution program, why is it taking you too long to fight corruption?
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 5:17pm On Aug 12, 2014
lastpage:

SirShymex,

I have read everything you wrote but dont ot want to quote it verbatim, just to save space.
In as much as l agree with most of what you wrote, l still want us to ponder on a few "salient" questions"

1.) Monkey and rats are not new species in Africa, they have been around for ages. .... and we have been eating them in their various forms of "bush meat". Some people even eat snakes (and it is not unique to Africans alone, Chinese people eat Lizards and all sorts of "bush meat".)
So first question is: WHEN did,... and HOW did these "bush meats" have/develop the virus or when and how did they become "host" to these virus?

2.)As a follow-up question, Ebola specifically, infected humans for the first time in the Congo about 1976. If we take the theory that it was caused by Monkeys and/or Bats, how come that generations of Africans, who have been eating these 'bush meats' NEVER were infected with Ebola, for generations, before that time?

3.) Africans eat everything available! grin Like some one pointed out, if a "country-chicken" starts to misbehave and acting funny (that infection that kills them but first makes them twist their neck and swirl around in circles before they eventually die ... "Kooli" in Yoruba), we simply slaughter it and eat it.... both the Chicken and its infection! How come we did not develop Ebola or some other variants of the Kooli infection since then?

4.) HIV was alien to Africa and probably the whole world until of recent and like all other "incurable disease", why must it have to originate from Africa?...... to be "detected and curable" by the Americans ..al the time?

Cheers Bro and nice day.

Lastpage!

I somewhat agree with you, especially the bizarre way in which the "secret" serum immediately appeared as soon as Americans were infected, and how the company that produced the serum is a biodefense company that works with the US Army department which deals with weapons of mass destruction. However, I think we should be patient before jumping to conclusions because beggars can't be choosers. Also, the recent outbreak of the virus in West Africa, especially in countries that have been civil war prone in the last three decades or so - and the rate in which it has killed people like never before is just shocking.

Furthermore, to allude to your point about how Africans have existed with animals for centuries without these diseases - I think Congo(formerly Zaire) has been the testing ground many diseases and all kinds destructive vices since the 50's. And it isn't shocking that Ebola also started from the same country. Coupled with the fact that, there are so many declassified files about western immunologists, virologists, molecular biologists, biochemists, and epidemiologists testing all kinds of viruses in animals, especially primates, before these viruses got to humans(you can read this article about HIV/AIDS and all the different viruses they have tested on animals and humans: http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/AIDS_Who_is_to_Blame.html). However, since we as Africans have no say and we're not scientifically developed to dispute whatever the narrative is - we're better off playing along, till they find a cure. So as not to end up in a catch 22 situation and as ungrateful souls. That's the sad truth about world politics...and some are going to be guinea pigs, and as long as it doesn't break us - we need to find strength in letting it make us stronger. African Americans have been used as guinea pigs for all kinds of experiments for generations, but they're still standing, albeit messed up in way due to how they've systematically destroyed them. We're not China, and I don't think we've the political and scientific might the Chinese used in dealing with the SARS virus.

In as much as I'm not really happy about the use of experimental drugs on humans, due to the side effects, and how it might trigger something else in the immune system - we put ourselves in a position whereby some people have to die for others to live. The disease has been on the continent since 1976, yet we've no research centres nor anyone trying to find a cure for it...waiting around for the white man to come solve our problems for us. Anyway, hopefully, by 2015, there will be cure for the disease. Also, once there's a proper cure, another uphill task for us is how we'll be able to eradicate the disease off Africa - since we can't even eradicate polio, tuberculosis, malaria etc.. So regardless of how we look at it, we're the architect of our own misfortunes, and we're to be blamed for being guinea pigs or whatever/however the virus started/was-manufactured. Ordinary folks just need to focus on proactive/precautionary methods to avoid the disease and stay alive - and leave the politics about its origin alone for now. Staying alive is the most important thing.

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by lafuria1(m): 5:29pm On Aug 12, 2014
milehigh06:

its fools like you that make me puke...all your african drs and native drs cant produce shit,no body ibn your family has produced a pill for the virus and when someone does who has a different skin or nationality to yours,you cry us a river about conspiracy theory..When America refused Nigeria the drug,I am 100% certain you were one of those calling America names but as soon as they give it to Liberians,you cry lab rat...where else would they have tried the drug based on the urgency on groundUSA...they have just 2 patients and that number is not enough to know how efficient the drug is...you talk about Pfeizer like they got away with what they did to the people when the opposite is the case
"Abdullahi v. Pfizer, Inc.
Main article: Abdullahi v. Pfizer, Inc.

In 1996, an outbreak of measles, cholera, and bacterial meningitis occurred in Nigeria. Pfizer representatives traveled to Kano, Nigeria to administer an experimental antibiotic, trovafloxacin, to approximately 200 children. Local Kano officials report that more than 50 children died in the experiment, while many others developed mental and physical deformities.[87] The nature and frequency of both fatalities and other adverse outcomes were similar to those historically found among pediatric patients treated for meningitis in sub-Saharan Africa.[88] In 2001, families of the children, as well as the governments of Kano and Nigeria, filed lawsuits regarding the treatment.[89] Representing the government is Babatunde Irukera. According to news reports, "[r]esearchers did not obtain signed consent forms, and medical personnel said Pfizer did not tell parents their children were getting the experimental drug."[90] The lawsuits also accuse Pfizer of using the outbreak to perform unapproved human testing, as well as allegedly under-dosing a control group being treated with traditional antibiotics in order to skew the results of the trial in favor of Trovan. Pfizer denied these claims, and subsequently produced an approval letter for testing from the Nigerian Ethics Committee. The Nigerian government insisted that it was a fake and a panel of Nigerian medical experts agreed that the letter had been concocted and backdated by the company's lead researcher in Kano. They went on to conclude that Pfizer never obtained authorization from the Nigerian government to give the unproven drug to children and infants.[91]

In 2007, Pfizer published a Statement of Defense letter.[92] The letter makes several claims, including that Pfizer donated 18 million in Nigerian Naira (NGN) (about $216,000 in 1996 US dollars (USD)),[93] that the drug's oral form was presented as safer and easier to administer, that the administration of Trovan saved lives, and that no unusual side effects, unrelated to meningitis, were observed after 4 weeks.

In June 2010, the US Supreme Court rejected Pfizer's appeal against a ruling allowing lawsuits by the Nigerian families to proceed.[94]

In December 2010, WikiLeaks released US diplomatic cables, which indicate that Pfizer had "used dirty tricks to avoid clinical trial payout". The company had hired investigators to find evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general to persuade him to drop legal action.[95] Washington Post reporter Joe Stephens, who helped break the story in 2000, called these actions "dangerously close to blackmail."[90] In response, the company has released a press statement describing the allegations as "preposterous" and stating that they acted in good faith.[96]"

copied from wikipedia

Pfeizer is a company and not the US govt and did you see how your people sold themselves out





Stop getting emotional and use your head, base on the urgency on ground, they should use an actual lab rat (animal), infect the animal with the blood virus and then give the animal the drug and see how it reacts. Zmapp don't know how many dose should even given to a patient, drugs is not water that you take any amout, an extra 1g can change from a drug to a poison what is refered to as over dose which have any adverse effect,

You bring up the story of Pfizer is exact reason I'm not too comfortable with this trial drug, what's the point of trying to cure a diseases and end up either killing the patients or causing permanent injury.

Did I mention anything about US?, is zmapp ia US govt? Why is USA speaking on its behalf , smh.
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 5:31pm On Aug 12, 2014
jpphilips: Mutation has been around for a long time you just need to do a little research to get some details, If I had time I would have given you a list of pathogens that have existed like that in different species, lastly HIV is not a virus, it is a retro virus which allows it to mutate easily.

If you believed that Europe has had a fair share of their own Epidermic worse than Africans, who was testing their biological weapons then? ROME?
I agree with the part that Africans are sleeping, it is not just in the area of research and health care, in all the facets of life, from west Africa, to the east , North to the south.
If Britain didn't stay longer and handing over to the white south Africans, they wouldn't have attained this level, Egypt is boasting as the military power house of Africa and Arab league but without US military aid, Egypt is nothing, same in all Facets, The American University in Cairo was ranked the best Universities in Africa for a very long time then, tell me who laid the foundation? since it fell off, which local Egyptian University have taken over? NONE!!

SA has the best universities in Africa today, none of the top ranked ones came from the ANC govt, it is still the white that did everything for them. The black man is always sleeping when he wakes he trades blame, once tired, he starts peddling conspiracy theories.

Nigeria is not worthy of mention else you throw up!

Considering the number of m0r0ns i see daily on African roads and here on Nairaland, you are not far from the truth. Ignorance is so deep seated in Africans, try other European or American fora, you hear people talking sane, dissecting facts with logic, once you come here, first you will think they are toddlers, next they will degenerate to sounding like animals, and you think those dvmb fvcks will ever make a breakthrough in science? fantasy reloaded!

I never alluded to Ebola being a biological weapon, since there's no substantial proof that it's. And also it has been around for a long time, ditto all the similar sister viruses that have affected humanity at one point or the other. I just don't understand why the West African variant is more vicious than the rest...and how it went from being non-contagious to contagious, hence the reason why I questioned the mutation process. However, since there are no available research papers to explain this anomaly, I'll just leave it there.

Honestly, we're to be blamed for everything we're going through or whatever plague invades the continent. Even on this forum, I've seen a few folks allude to either studying or graduated with a degree(or more) in biomedical sciences and courses related to medicine...however, I haven't seen one of them post anything or post research papers explaining the virus, or what viruses are since the whole thing started. However, the same folks will readily post junk on other subject matter. But if it were to be a western forum - most folks in medical field would've posted educative information about the virus. That alone should be able to tell you the quality of graduates Africa keeps churning out.

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 6:02pm On Aug 12, 2014
Sagamite:

Pure fucktards!

Instead of educating their minds, you will see the fcktards coming to places like NL to preoccupy themselves with "Us vs Them".

"I hate Ghana" fcktards.

"We are better than SA" cretins.

Shyt is not human waste. Most Nigerians are human waste! Shyt just smells more.

Oh dear! grin grin
I had taken a break from Nairaland. Thank you very much Sagamite for making me break my "fast". You're still at it?
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 6:24pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=lastpage]

SirShymex,

I have read everything you wrote but dont ot want to quote it verbatim, just to save space.
In as much as l agree with most of what you wrote, l still want us to ponder on a few "salient" questions"

1.) Monkey and rats are not new species in Africa, they have been around for ages. .... and we have been eating them in their various forms of "bush meat". Some people even eat snakes (and it is not unique to Africans alone, Chinese people eat Lizards and all sorts of "bush meat".)
So first question is: WHEN did,... and HOW did these "bush meats" have/develop the virus or when and how did they become "host" to these virus?

Ignorant question, Ebola has been killing people in Zaire for a very long time, not until the white man came and told them what has been killing them and how to prevent it. liken it to the case we had in Nigeria, do you remember that sickle cell disease killed Nigerians for over 100yrs? while we labelled it "ogbanje" and fed victims to wild animals, the white missionaries came and told us it is sickle cell, and helped us with Genotype kit, today, we do genotype test before marriage and "Ogbanje" Disappeared.
Guess what, since "Ogbanje" disappeared, No single Nigerian Pharmaceutical company is researching for a cure, perhaps we are waiting for the white man to spoon feed us again with solution after several years of begging.
Fruit bats have always been in Zaire, they have always carried Ebola, it has always killed people, they just don't know what has been killing them till 1976.
The reason they asked you to stop eating your bush meat is not because your bush meat has Ebola, but it can host Ebola which is already here. Avoiding it completely is the best preventive measure, it will give time for the carriers to die off, so the next generation will be free. This is common sense bro!


2.)As a follow-up question, Ebola specifically, infected humans for the first time in the Congo about 1976. If we take the theory that it was caused by Monkeys and/or Bats, how come that generations of Africans, who have been eating these 'bush meats' NEVER were infected with Ebola, for generations, before that time?

Ebola has been killing people before 1976, they only had an answer to it from 1976 during an outbreak that consumed 318 people the white men came and gave them an answer.
This will shock you; the region close to the Mongala river which is a tributary of the Ebola river is referred to a "sacred area" in Zaire according to Vanden Bossche and Sir Harry hamilton, could it be that the "god" or "power" there in was the Ebola virus? If so then Ignorance is the culprit as usual.


3.) Africans eat everything available! grin Like some one pointed out, if a "country-chicken" starts to misbehave and acting funny (that infection that kills them but first makes them twist their neck and swirl around in circles before they eventually die ... "Kooli" in Yoruba), we simply slaughter it and eat it.... both the Chicken and its infection! How come we did not develop Ebola or some other variants of the Kooli infection since then?

Ignorance again my friend, if you believe in Migration of animals, it will take just one animal to migrate from an infected zone to a free zone to make a change in geometric progression.
Just a Patrick Sawyer and 179 Nigerians are on death row, Just one fruit bat that flew from Ebola river to the nearest village can make all the difference.




4.) HIV was alien to Africa and probably the whole world until of recent and like all other "incurable disease", why must it have to originate from Africa?...... to be "detected and curable" by the Americans ..al the time?


Ignorance again! SIV was believed to have existed in chimpanzees for over 32,000years, It was just mutation that turned it into HIV, but let us be frank, even if HIV had killed an African 100years ago, how will they know what killed them? the worst they will do is tag it an evil spirit or sacrifice the patient to the gods.


Now, my apologies but l think anyone who is NOT prepared to at least "examine the plausibility" of the theory that "Africans, due to our own carelessness-induced poverty, have been turned to a 'Human Guinea Pig" for the cultivation and testing of various types of Bio-Weapons, by the West, especially America, is playing the Ostrich.

Some will quickly tag it 'conspiracy theory" but l say, "At least, just look into the possibility", using logical reasoning based on some "coincidences", over time, which could probably give you a timeline that connects the t's and dot's?

One poster, "@Musilimu" (Muslim? shocked ) posted something about Tulane research and no one is researching it to see if the post was even true or fabricated? We are an endangered species and we cant afford to be "sheeple" like most Americans who believe ONLY what their govt tells them, using the Faux news, CNN, CBC, e.t.c, whether true or fabricated!


Clap trap, the Tulane research he posted was on a program to reduce population, does Africans have more population than the Asians?
So you think they will spend huge amounts of money, develop a bio weapon and release it in area of low population when the main aim is to depopulate a particular people?
how about China, india, pakistan, United states, brasil for starters?



I am open to "all sources of information" and will take time to read-up on each one, do my own independent research and form an INFORMED OPINION of my own, based on what l have read and deciphered.
But most people condemn and trash information, simply because they dont like the "messenger"!


Please do, that will certainly distinguish you from a lot of Dumbos here!


Many declassified information has shown that Americans have "experimented" on all sorts of dangerous things, from Chemical weapons, to Biological weapons and will go to great lengths to HIDE these experiments, from the Guinea Pigs, who incidentally happen to be blacks, being the most poverty stricken and illiterate breed of humans on earth!!

Some years recent, Dolphins and Whales (large sea animals)suddenly started "beaching and dying" without any explanations, from Nigeria to South Africa, to Spain! Well, there were suggestions that the Americans who were working nearby on a different project in SA, were actually testing new Biological weapons using Sonar! When it became "news", though the Americans never accepted but they stopped their work and the animal death also stooped! Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not

For a nation that has "tested" banned munitions and new variants on people in Iraq and Afghanistan (White Phosphorus, e.t.c), on Vietnamese (Agent Orange) and Japanese long ago, NOTHING IS BEYOND THEM and to just brush it aside can be our greatest undoing.

I do not hate America, l have travelled there a few times on Holiday and am still going, just like l travel to other countries around the world when l have the time, but that does not mean we cant "discuss" them and what they do.



Allowing yourself to be used as a lab rat should concern you more than who used you don't you think so? Given the opportunity, Iran will gladly wipe Israel off the map, where is the opportunity my friend?



I am inclined to think that the "new" Ebola Virus outbreak in Liberia and Sierra Leone was a "Lab-testing" of a biological weapon otherwise, how come the American Defence Department was involved in the work of Zmapp, if it was just plain, normal corporate research and not Bio-weapons??


Ignorance again, the death toll on Ebola has not yet gotten to a "state of Emergency" the reason the research was stalled, haven't you head the word "priority" before? funding for the Zmapp was released in 2003, and yes it takes long to get a break through in such areas, stop being ignorant just read.
Go and read the mission statement of the United states DOD to understand why they got involved in such research.




Again, l think they just needed to go the next step, which is "human testing", something they cant do in the U.S, by injecting the Virus into the Monkeys, knowing fully well that 'Africans are bush meat eaters" and will unknowingly eat the Monkeys at a stage and the Monkeys will spread it around amongst themselves anyway! wink wink

Now, imagine if America was not aware that "it has a cure in-place", do you think they will allow a possible "INCURABLE biological catastrophe" to be brought on American soil, (rather than experiment with the treatment Abroad orin africa were it originated and people got infected), like they quickly asked the two SafePurse health workers to be brought to Atlanta? NEVER, its not in American nature to do so
If a plane load of WHITE Americans were to pose an "existential threat" to America, they would bomb it out of the Sky without blinking an eye.
I tell you, they knew what they were doing from day-1. undecided undecided

Just like "Security Companies" who manufacture "Anti-Virus Software", it is feasible that they would actually manufacture the "virus first" in the Lab, have enough time to develop a cure and probably "release the virus" to the world through a "third party" and then claim they have done research on the virus and can cure it ...... of course, for a good fee! wink

In America's case, that "fee" would or may not be monetary but global control and dominance!

In war, everything and anything is possible..... and Africa is at war with civilization and dominance.

Someone said, if it were possible to remove TWO THINGS from the World, the world will be a Paradise:
1) ISLAM,as a religion!
2.) Black Humans!!

Now, l am not defending either of the two above but if you look at American policy, subtly, it is trying to achieve both, in a very "humane, democratic and civilized way"! grin grin wink

Anyway, l still cant blame anyone for my own failures, if after so many years l still cant figure it out and solve my problem!
All these my "finger-pointing" is just for awareness alone, it does not solve the real problem.
The solution lies with we Africans looking ourselves in the eye and saying: Look, you don phuck-up big time, NOW SIT UP and TAKE YOUR PLACE AMONGST NATIONS, FROM NOW ON!

That wont be easy, because there are "forces" whose"interests" are "diametrically opposed" to that, ...but we have no choice really!
Patrice Mulumba, Jonas Savimbi, Maumar Ghadafi tried it, Allende of Chile and many more who tried it, got murdered, directly or indirectly by "you-know-whom"?
You wont get any cookies for guessing right. grin grin

Cheers Bro and nice day.

Lastpage! grin grin grin

grin grin grin

Ignorance reloaded!! The Zmapp was given to the Americans in Liberia, because they were unsure if it will work being a trial drug, how will they doubt their own anti dote? even when the drug was released, news had it that they were not certain it will work due to the time frame of exposure to the Virus.

The first Ebola case on US soil came from the Philippines through an imported Animal, could it be that they sent the bio weapon to Africa and the Philippines but the Filipinos used juju to send it back to America while our Juju failed us?
Use your head Mr Man!!, Ignorance kills faster than Ebola.
Why is it that no African country has a cure for a virus discovered since 1976 on African soil, Bio weapon or not? How long did it take the Australians to get the answer to 2007 Dengue fever bio weapon or not?

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by jpphilips(m): 6:44pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=SirShymex]

I somewhat agree with you, especially the bizarre way in which the "secret" serum immediately appeared as soon as Americans were infected, and how the company that produced the serum is a biodefense company that works with the US Army department which deals with weapons of mass destruction. However, I think we should be patient before jumping to conclusions because beggars can't be choosers. Also, the recent outbreak of the virus in West Africa, especially in countries that have been civil war prone in the last three decades or so - and the rate in which it has killed people like never before is just shocking.

grin grin grin grin grin

Furthermore, to allude to your point about how Africans have existed with animals for centuries without these diseases - I think Congo(formerly Zaire) has been the testing ground many diseases and all kinds destructive vices since the 50's. And it isn't shocking that Ebola also started from the same country. Coupled with the fact that, there are so many declassified files about western immunologists, virologists, molecular biologists, biochemists, and epidemiologists testing all kinds of viruses in animals, especially primates, before these viruses got to humans(you can read this article about HIV/AIDS and all the different viruses they have tested on animals and humans: http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/AIDS_Who_is_to_Blame.html). However, since we as Africans have no say and we're not scientifically developed to dispute whatever the narrative is - we're better off playing along, till they find a cure. So as not to end up in a catch 22 situation and as ungrateful souls. That's the sad truth about world politics...and some are going to be guinea pigs, and as long as it doesn't break us - we need to find strength in letting it make us stronger. African Americans have been used as guinea pigs for all kinds of experiments for generations, but they're still standing, albeit messed up in way due to how they've systematically destroyed them. We're not China, and I don't think we've the political and scientific might the Chinese used in dealing with the SARS virus.


I agree that Zaire is very bio diversified, but you forgot that Zaire has the worst traditional practices on earth, here are some
from some remote villages;

They bathe dead people and use the water for sanctification.
They eat dead animals and use their organs to acquire spiritual powers,
They sleep with corpses.
They bury in shallow graves

Why wont diseases spread?

You recognized the Chinese effort to stop SARS right? a densely populated country with respiratory disease? if china was in Africa, They would have been Extinct by now.
Was the Chinese accusing the west before looking for a cure?

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Juzzybabe(f): 8:17pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=Maxie110]I believe that zmapp will cost almost a fortune to procure. ... Hmmmm I smell rat here, still believe that this so called ebola was designed for a purpose! God help us



I thought as much...end time tins? God help us. undecided
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by mmark12(m): 8:39pm On Aug 12, 2014
[quote author=jpphilips][/quote]


100000% agree with u . Pls lecture Last page, the useless ODE born with one testicle grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by lastpage: 10:07pm On Aug 12, 2014
mmark12:


100000% agree with u . Pls lecture Last page, the useless ODE born with one testicle grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin grin Only FOOLS LIKE YOU "AGREE 1000%", because they are clueless about what is being discussed and therefore have 'NO SAY'! undecided undecided undecided


British Army REJECT,
.......go and get a "low-life menial job" that's suitable for your level and stop disturbing the Brits
!
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British Army koo, Boko Haram Army nii! grin grin grin grin

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Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by mmark12(m): 8:29am On Aug 13, 2014
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grin grin grin grin Only FOOLS LIKE YOU "AGREE 1000%", because they are clueless about what is being discussed and therefore have 'NO SAY'! undecided undecided undecided


British Army REJECT,
.......go and get a "low-life menial job" that's suitable for your level and stop disturbing the Brits
!
tongue tongue tongue

British Army koo, Boko Haram Army nii! grin grin grin grin

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grin grin grin grin Only FOOLS LIKE YOU "AGREE 1000%", because they are clueless about what is being discussed and therefore have 'NO SAY'! undecided undecided undecided


British Army REJECT,
.......go and get a "low-life menial job" that's suitable for your level and stop disturbing the Brits
!
tongue tongue tongue

British Army koo, Boko Haram Army nii! grin grin grin grin

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J.E.A.L.O.U.S.Y pls dont blame me for your failures and misery. May be u were denied visa
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by mmark12(m): 8:47am On Aug 13, 2014
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grin grin grin grin Only FOOLS LIKE YOU "AGREE 1000%", because they are clueless about what is being discussed and therefore have 'NO SAY'! undecided undecided undecided


British Army REJECT,
.......go and get a "low-life menial job" that's suitable for your level and stop disturbing the Brits
!
tongue tongue tongue

British Army koo, Boko Haram Army nii! grin grin grin grin

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THE MAN WITH ONE TESTICLE
Re: Ebola: US Approves Liberia Request To Send Untested Drug by Nobody: 10:11am On Aug 13, 2014
Is this relevant to the thread? why do you want to tell us about this association now?
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