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Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by aletheia(m): 8:40pm On Aug 14, 2014
OrlandoOwoh: But everybody that has it in Nigeria dies? How come no cure has been found for this disease since 1976?
This is part of the ignorance that leads people to bathe with salt. How is it that everyone who has had Ebola in Nigeria died? Not everyone who contracts Ebola dies. The case fatality rate in this current outbreak is about 53%. Not everyone dies. Cures are difficult to develop for viral illnesses.

The solution to ignorance is to read. Most of you don't read. And when you do, you fail to process and synthesize the information you are presented with.

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Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:46pm On Aug 14, 2014
aletheia:
This is part of the ignorance that leads people to bathe with salt. How is it that everyone who has had Ebola in Nigeria died? Not everyone who contracts Ebola dies. The case fatality rate in this current outbreak is about 53%. Not everyone dies. Cures are difficult to develop for viral illnesses.

The solution to ignorance is to read. Most of you don't read. And when you do, you fail to process and synthesize the information you are presented with.
Could you answer why the doctor from the US that has the disease is not doing bad while the condition of those in Africa keep deteriorating?
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 10:34pm On Aug 14, 2014
If only 53% it beg the question even more why the hysteria over Ebola whereas Rabies is approx 100%

If you separate white cases and African cases you will find that death rate amongst whites is probably about 15% and African about 90%

This would show you the real death rate should really be 15%.

So why the hysteria when there is no hysteria for Rabies that is 100%?

aletheia:
This is part of the ignorance that leads people to bathe with salt. How is it that everyone who has had Ebola in Nigeria died? Not everyone who contracts Ebola dies. The case fatality rate in this current outbreak is about 53%. Not everyone dies. Cures are difficult to develop for viral illnesses.

The solution to ignorance is to read. Most of you don't read. And when you do, you fail to process and synthesize the information you are presented with.
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by ogmask: 10:35pm On Aug 14, 2014
OrlandoOwoh:
Could you answer why the doctor from the US that has the disease is not doing bad while the condition of those in Africa keep deteriorating?

Are u serious?

Hey bruv, not all questions deserve answers. U just asked one of such.

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Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 10:48pm On Aug 14, 2014
ignorance is, indeed, a deadly disease. grin grin grin
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 10:55pm On Aug 14, 2014
You are quite right and it can lead people into turning themselves into guinea pigs for America's deadly experimental vaccines
ProfCorruption: ignorance is, indeed, a deadly disease. grin grin grin
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by aletheia(m): 11:03pm On Aug 14, 2014
GenBuhari: If only 53% it beg the question even more why the hysteria over Ebola whereas Rabies is approx 100%

If you separate white cases and African cases you will find that death rate amongst whites is probably about 15% and African about 90%

This would show you the real death rate should really be 15%.

So why the hysteria when there is no hysteria for Rabies that is 100%?
You 've been going on and on about rabies as if it clinches the argument.
1. Rabies is a zoonosis. It ordinarily does not infect man.
2. Rabies is transmitted through the bite of an infected animal like a dog.
3. A person with rabies is not likely to infect those around him unlike those infected with Ebola
4. Dogs are required to be vaccinated against rabies. This is the most important primary preventive measure. There is no preventive vaccine against Ebola.
5. Once rabies develops, it is almost universally fatal, however and this is the critical thing, a person bitten by a rabid animal can be treated within 48 - 72 hours of the bite with anti-rabies shots which prevent him from developing rabies. You can't do that for Ebola.
6. We do not get rabies epidemics in which 1000s of people die within months. Now if you had tried to argue this using the flu virus, it would make more sense.

Stop trying to mislead people into not taking precautions that might save their lives in the event that the Ebola outbreak spreads. While I do not agree that experimental and unproven therapies be inflicted on Nigerians, the Ebola outbreak represents a serious danger to us all.

This was how Nigerians denied the existence of HIV/AIDS until people started dying off.

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Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 11:04pm On Aug 14, 2014
GenBuhari:
You are quite right and it can lead people into turning themselves into guinea pigs for America's deadly experimental vaccines

why do you think Ebola is a hoax?
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 1:46am On Aug 15, 2014
You are right but, may people in the 3rd world cannot afford the treatment and would often leave it too late to seek treatment.

You do get Rabies epidemic where thousands die within months, read somewhere that up to 70,000 die every year

aletheia:
You 've been going on and on about rabies as if it clinches the argument.
1. Rabies is a zoonosis. It ordinarily does not infect man.
2. Rabies is transmitted through the bite of an infected animal like a dog.
3. A person with rabies is not likely to infect those around him unlike those infected with Ebola
4. Dogs are required to be vaccinated against rabies. This is the most important primary preventive measure. There is no preventive vaccine against Ebola.
5. Once rabies develops, it is almost universally fatal, however and this is the critical thing, a person bitten by a rabid animal can be treated within 48 - 72 hours of the bite with anti-rabies shots which prevent him from developing rabies. You can't do that for Ebola.
6. We do not get rabies epidemics in which 1000s of people die within months. Now if you had tried to argue this using the flu virus, it would make more sense.

Stop trying to mislead people into not taking precautions that might save their lives in the event that the Ebola outbreak spreads. While I do not agree that experimental and unproven therapies be inflicted on Nigerians, the Ebola outbreak represents a serious danger to us all.

This was how Nigerians denied the existence of HIV/AIDS until people started dying off.
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 1:50am On Aug 15, 2014
The propaganda

ProfCorruption:

why do you think Ebola is a hoax?
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 2:06am On Aug 15, 2014
GenBuhari: The propaganda


Propaganda? Lol grin grin grin

You can do better than spreading baseless conspiracy theories. Ebola is real and not a yesterday disease. It was actually discovered in the 70s, and like many viral disease, different strains are now in vogue. The vociferous noise about it has to do with its high fatality rate within a short period.

The drugs/medicines being tested, though less ideal to be administered on humans at this stage of development, are there to give patients a fighting chance of survival.
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by OrlandoOwoh(m): 6:35am On Aug 15, 2014
ogmask:

Are u serious?

Hey bruv, not all questions deserve answers. U just asked one of such.
This is not a rhetorical question.
Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 8:21am On Aug 15, 2014
GenBuhari:

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Patrick Sawyers wife and kids have avoided infection from Ebola, yet it seems every Nigerian Doctor or Nurse that came within 10 metres of him are dropping dead!!

Something does not add up!!!

Make we shine our eyes well well!!

Ebola epidemic is a hoax to panic us into being America's research guinea pig for their experimental vaccine.

Do not allow any experimental vaccines into Nigeria - they will kill a lot of people[/size]

I and a number of others decided to step back from NL because Seun's disrespect was carried too far.
But since you have decided to run amok on a National Health Crisis, in that inimitable style of a truth-denier, I am going to indulge you a bit cool

Don't expect to be treated graciously if you respond to my posts with bile. If you do; I will either ignore your tomfoolery, or take it to "the streets" (the gutter) grin I am done trying to reason with the type of folks whose minds are easily given to a state of "unreason". I am only here to help elevate the debate, because I know a lot of commentators do not have the same level of access that I have to certain information, nothing more. So be forewarned comrade!

Do you recall seeing Asian people wringing their hands, while pointing fingers of blame at foreign agents, during the SARs outbreak? Were people across the Northern hemisphere dancing "Azonto" while conjecturing up unproven conspiracy theories - as is the case here - when Swine Flu broke out?

Instead of directing your ire at the useless leaders who engineered needless wars in places like Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea - thereby rendering their respective Health Care Systems comatose - here you are allowing your mind to take flights of fancy.
What single proof do you have that the US govt invented Ebola? How many people have actually died from Ebola over the past 40 years? Now please tell me the number who died from Swine Flu.

Re: Ebola Hoax: Why Are Mr Sawyer's Wife & Kids Not Infected? by Nobody: 8:45am On Aug 15, 2014
OrlandoOwoh: While I won't completely deny that Ebola exists, I sense some things that are fishy is the action of the United States. How come the only case of Ebola in the United States - that of a doctors - was treated and is doing fine? But everybody that has it in Nigeria dies?
How come no cure has been found for this disease since 1976? Is that efforts were made and are still being made to find a cure for, and Nigerians are to be used as experiments?
GenBuhari, God bless you.

Intelligent questions @OrlandoOwoh


Stop Worrying About Ebola (And Start Worrying About What it Means)

Once again, Africa is in the international spotlight. As usual, the news isn't good.

The media seems to alternate between long stretches of ignoring Africa entirely, punctuated by short bursts of completely freaking out about the continent, usually due to a new outbreak of disease or terrorism that we fear may spread to our own shores. The recent Ebola outbreak in West Africa, which has infected almost 2,000 people over the past six months, is no exception.

Of course, we should care a great deal about the Ebola outbreak, but not for the reasons propagated by cable news and bloggers alike. We should care about Ebola not because of the threat it poses to us as Americans, but for what it says about the current state of the health care system in much of Africa and many other resource-limited settings around the globe.

Sadly, the media has instead coalesced around the following five myths, while ignoring the larger public health context and incredible health disparities present in our world.

Myth #1: Ebola is a universally fatal disease.

Ebola can certainly be fatal, but not universally so. In fact, the case fatality ratio for Ebola and its close cousin, Marburg virus, varies greatly depending on the setting. The first recorded outbreak of these diseases, which occurred in Germany and Yugoslavia in 1967, had a mortality rate of 23 percent - high by any standard, but far lower than the 53-88 percent mortality seen in subsequent outbreaks in sub-Saharan Africa over the next 40 years(1). (This first outbreak also occurred before anything was known about the disease and before the widespread availability of modern emergency departments and intensive care units in Europe.)

The risk of death for individuals infected with Ebola or Marburg in the United States or Europe today would almost certainly be far lower than that seen in any of the previous outbreaks. The two Americans recently infected in Liberia, for instance, are by all accounts improving, not because of any magic serum they received, but because of the close monitoring and care provided by their aid worker colleagues and their rapid evacuation to a modern hospital with intensive care facilities.

I have cared for patients and trained physicians in dozens of urban and rural hospitals across sub-Saharan Africa over the last decade. The mortality rate for nearly every disease I have ever managed, from pneumonia to heart attacks to cancer to motor vehicle accidents, is at least an order of magnitude higher in sub-Saharan Africa than for the exact same disease managed in an American hospital.

When it comes to your likelihood of dying from any disease in this world, Ebola included, geography matters.

Myth #2: There is no treatment for Ebola.

There are actually several effective treatments for Ebola that can help support individuals through the worst phases of the disease and increase their chance of survival. These treatments include early and careful resuscitation with intravenous fluids; blood products such as packed red blood cells, platelets, and concentrations of clotting factors to prevent bleeding; antibiotics to treat common bacterial co-infections; respiratory support with oxygen, or in severe cases, via a ventilator; and powerful vasoactive medications to counter the effects of shock. In addition, modern diagnostic equipment can help doctors and nurses continuously track vital signs in order to rapidly detect and manage new complications of the disease and stay one step ahead of the virus.

The incredible thing about these already proven treatments (as opposed to the experimental ones being discussed at length in the media) is that they can be used to fight not just Ebola but a myriad of other diseases across Africa. During the past six months that the Ebola outbreak has claimed the lives of nearly 1000 children and adults, approximately 298,000 children have died of severe pneumonia, 193,000 children have died of severe diarrhea, 288,000 children and adults have died of severe malaria, and 428,000 children and adults have died from injuries like car accidents, all in sub-Saharan Africa alone.

Better access to emergency and critical care services could help save patients with Ebola as well as those affected by these and many other far more common killers.

Myth #3: Ebola is the most contagious disease known and will spread rapidly across America if it is allowed to enter the country.

Ebola is not the most contagious disease known. It's not airborne and it's not even spread by aerosols (small droplets of spit that float through the air). This makes it less contagious than a host of other diseases, such as measles, chicken pox, tuberculosis, or even the seasonal flu. To the best of our knowledge, Ebola is spread only by close physical contact, especially with bodily fluids. So unless someone on the subway vomits, defecates, or bleeds on you (or rubs up against you very closely for a long period of time), they aren't going to be passing Ebola onto you.

In a medical setting, all that is required to prevent the spread of Ebola from patient to health care worker to patient is the use of "contact precautions," which include gowns, gloves and regular hand-washing after every patient contact -- precautions that are standard in the intensive care units of all U.S. hospitals where patients with Ebola would be treated.

Contrast that to West Africa, where Ebola has been spreading rapidly due to a lack of basic public health measures in poorly equipped government hospitals and clinics. Many health centers and hospitals lack adequate supplies as basic as gloves and gowns, and many also lack the running water or alcohol-based solutions required for health care professionals to cleanse their hands in between patients. Unlike the United States, hospitals in Africa tend to have open wards with dozens of beds crowded into a single room and, in many cases I've seen, multiple patients sharing a single bed. It's not hard to see how Ebola can spread quickly in these types of crowded situations.

The best way to help Africa stem the tide of the current Ebola epidemic is by rapidly investing in and deploying basic infectious control measures like gowns, gloves, water, and sterilization tools, coupled with health worker and community health trainings in how to properly use them.

Myth #4: We need to start giving experimental Ebola drugs right away to as many Africans as possible to help stem the outbreak.

Any human being given an experimental treatment that has not yet been proven safe and effective in humans is, by definition, being experimented upon. Now, experimenting on humans, even those in poor countries, is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, conducting research in resource-limited settings is a big part of my own job. However, every person enrolled in a medical research study, whether they are American or African, is entitled to the same basic international ethical protections, and people in poor countries actually deserve special protections.

For instance, while studies in the United States require approval from just one ethical review board, most studies in low-income countries require approval from two separate ethical review boards -- one international and one local. In addition, consent forms, which spell out the risks and benefits for patients of a particular study, must be translated into all local dialects, and special provisions must be made for patients who cannot read the forms or sign their name. Finally, every patient enrolled in a study, whether they be in a treatment group or comparison group, must also receive the very best available proven treatments for the disease, which in the case of Ebola would include all of those outlined above. This would ensure that all patients in the study receive some benefit from the research, even if the experimental drugs turn out to be ineffective (or harmful).

Sadly, we have known about Marburg and Ebola viruses for almost 50 years now, and similar to so many other neglected tropical diseases, we have so far conducted pitifully little research into effective treatments or vaccines. This is not due to a lack of interest on the part of doctors and scientists, but rather a lack of money. Drug companies are generally not willing to invest in research to prevent or treat diseases that only affect poor people, since they are unlikely to ever turn a profit.

Americans could rectify this problem by pushing President Obama and Congress to reinstate the funds cut from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) as part of the sequester and urge the NIH to dedicate a larger portion of its funding towards research into diseases affecting the world's poorest citizens.

Myth #5: Nothing can be done to help Africa -- it's just too poor.

The true tragedy of the Ebola outbreak is that most Africans lack access to the very same medications, equipment, and skilled physicians and nurses that have been available in the United States and Europe for several decades, and that could have prevented the current epidemic from raging out of control. Moreover, these very same measures could also be used to reduce mortality from the variety of other diseases currently killing thousands of times as many Africans each day as Ebola.
These lifesaving treatments are not out of reach for the continent. At this very moment, through a partnership between USAID, the Global Fund, the Rwanda Ministry of Health, and a consortium of American universities, we are currently training a cadre of emergency medicine and critical care physicians and nurses in Rwanda, one of the poorest countries in Africa. At the same time, we are also rapidly scaling up the health care infrastructure and drug and equipment supply chains in Rwanda, so that these new African specialists have the tools they need to care for the continent's sickest patients. Even before the recent outbreak of Ebola there, a similar effort has been under consideration for Liberia, though it is still awaiting U.S. government approval.

Our experience in Rwanda is proving that with enough political will and outside financial and technical support, African countries can achieve large scale improvements in their capacity to both prevent disease and manage even the most critical and emergent conditions -- not overnight perhaps, but in time to prevent the next big epidemic before it even begins.

(1) Beer B, Kurth R, Bukreyev A. "Characteristics of Filoviridae: Marburg and Ebola Viruses." Naturwissenschaften 1999; 86, 8-17.

Adam Levine is an Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine and Director of the Global Emergency Medicine Fellowship at Brown University. He currently serves as the Clinical Advisor for Emergency and Trauma Care for Partners In Health/Inshuti Mu Buzima and as a member of the Emergency Response Team for International Medical Corps. His research focuses on improving the delivery of acute care in low-income countries and during humanitarian emergencies. The views expressed in this blog are his alone and do not necessarily represent the views of any of the organizations mentioned above.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-c-levine/stop-worrying-about-ebola_b_5667018.html

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