THUNDER4real: Who is begging them to stay? let them go and jam transformer. If they go abroad they will see how medicine is practiced and not this poo they practice in 9ja. You will see every health worker doing his or her own bits for the benefit of the patient.
Here in Nigeria doctors are the primary problem of the health sector. By the way, do you think practicing as a Nigerian trained doctor is easy abroad, so Mr man go and do your mathematics before posting rubbish.

LOL.you should be thev one to actually find out how medicine is being practiced abroad...with respect to ur point particularly in major developed countries...even in 3rd world countries such as india..and u will weep for our country nigeria.yes,overthere,every health worker stays in his or her vocational calling..each group does not plot to invade the traditional jurisdiction of the other.it's so structured and boundries well defined.over there.,a doctor owns a patient hence he is infact traditionally responsible for making/taking decisions that is relevant to the wholistic wellbeing of a patient at various levels.well..it is only in nigeria where things do not work in an ideal way that u find so many aberrations,and deviations from the acceptable norm.not only the health sectors.people(both medical and non medicals) should try and find out how things are being run in major countries with fairly successful healthcare delivery systems before coming down here to post trash,critisisms,ego driven comment.,inferiority driven comments etc..maybe we can learn some ideal way forward.i am not exempting my self sha before some start..

Residency training is more or less like professional certification dt doctors undergo in teaching hospitals.While on this training,they are paid well over 250-300k per doctor on a monthly bases depending on their grades.Some are senior reg- 300-350k.Now most doctors run back after nysc to continue ds training which last well over 5yrs before they become consultants.Doctors av always flaunt hospital rules trying to control virtually everything in an hospital environment,bt dey want to make it official hence d strike.,that doctors should head every department in a teaching hospital which is wrong.Medicine is as important as nursing,health records officers,lab scientist,pharmacist, engineers etc.It was never like that,administrator were in charge of teaching hospitals bt all has changed,cuz d administrator is only d 3rd in command npw,doctors have taken over everything,ranging frm d chief medical director to the chairman medical advisory committee before d admin. So sacking doctors doesn't mean d employed doctors bt d training itself dt doctors so much undergo cause of d money involved ws suspended...ie lk a master prog or prof course.Everybody undergoing masters pays fr their masters or professional training except doctors n dey still dnt appreciate d fact that govt pay dem fr ds training cause as part of their practical experience,dey work in d hospitals whr dey undergo ds training and still get paid twice d amount spent as fees or forms 200-350k nobi beans n as a consultant,u will earn well over 500k.

the problem in health sector is that some of the professionals are not good in adapting to changes.the doctors are finding it difficult to accept that other professions are expanding,improving and evolving. they find it hard to accept that Nurses can be degree holders,master and PhD holders.they keep comparing medicine and nursing which can never be compared cos they are two different progression.One says its 6yrs course the other said its 5 years both when graduated are degree Holders. they do internship which nurses will start very soon,pharmacy and med lab are doing the same internship.pls people on appointment drs start on grade level12 other 8,and 10 and here they are asking of relativity saying yet d salary of a nurse on 12 shld not be equal to that of dr on 12 not minding that the nurse must have put up not least 9 years to 12yrs to get to that grade level 12 that a newly employed 10 is starting like wise other health professionals.they don't want others yo be consultants when the body regulating that profession has stipulated the criteria for their members to be consultants saying that they d drs suffer to be a consultant.pls if for instance nursing and midwifery council of Nigeria state that for one to be a nurse consultant he must be a masters degree holder in nursing and must have gone through with courses with west African council of nursing and is now a fellow is that not their criteria? must d nurse go through the same drs procedure to be a consultant nurse?mind you we are talking of consultant nurse not dr here .is it the issue of a director where other proffesionals outside health get to direct and now drs said that even If u have PhD that when u get to asst director you shld remain there .OK 100k hazard allowance for only drs imagine are they exposed to hazard than the nurse that stays with this patient 24/7 or the lab scientists that deals with biohazards everyday? that they are asking for only drs if others ask theirs drs will go on strike .I think the drs shld know that other professions are growing and shld accept that fact that not the nurses you have in 1980 that is around now not med lab tech now but med lab science .each profession in health shld fight to progress and be the best in their profession and forget about fighting each other cos all of them must work together for patient to get well.

chuksbogus: the problem in health sector is that some of the professionals are not good in adapting to changes.the doctors are finding it difficult to accept that other professions are expanding,improving and evolving. they find it hard to accept that Nurses can be degree holders,master and PhD holders.they keep comparing medicine and nursing which can never be compared cos they are two different progression.One says its 6yrs course the other said its 5 years both when graduated are degree Holders. they do internship which nurses will start very soon,pharmacy and med lab are doing the same internship.pls people on appointment drs start on grade level12 other 8,and 10 and here they are asking of relativity saying yet d salary of a nurse on 12 shld not be equal to that of dr on 12 not minding that the nurse must have put up not least 9 years to 12yrs to get to that grade level 12 that a newly employed 10 is starting like wise other health professionals.they don't want others yo be consultants when the body regulating that profession has stipulated the criteria for their members to be consultants saying that they d drs suffer to be a consultant.pls if for instance nursing and midwifery council of Nigeria state that for one to be a nurse consultant he must be a masters degree holder in nursing and must have gone through with courses with west African council of nursing and is now a fellow is that not their criteria? must d nurse go through the same drs procedure to be a consultant nurse?mind you we are talking of consultant nurse not dr here .is it the issue of a director where other proffesionals outside health get to direct and now drs said that even If u have PhD that when u get to asst director you shld remain there .OK 100k hazard allowance for only drs imagine are they exposed to hazard than the nurse that stays with this patient 24/7 or the lab scientists that deals with biohazards everyday? that they are asking for only drs if others ask theirs drs will go on strike .I think the drs shld know that other professions are growing and shld accept that fact that not the nurses you have in 1980 that is around now not med lab tech now but med lab science .each profession in health shld fight to progress and be the best in their profession and forget about fighting each other cos all of them must work together for patient to get well.

well said! !!

[quote author=Leopantro]Nigeria’s Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Nwachukwu, has said the 16,000 resident Doctors who were reported as having been fired last week by the Federal health authorities, were only on suspension as the Federal Government mulls better ways to improve the healthcare sector.

“I believe the suspension is only temporary, the government is looking at how the healthcare system can be improved. But please, note that the suspension is just for only federal-owned hospitals, it is not extended to other state hospitals,” the Health Minister said.

On claims by doctors that the health insurance scheme the federal government promised was yet to be provided, Chukwu said the federal government had not begun the issuance of the insurance policy but that the Lagos State government had commenced the issuance of theirs.

“We are still working on the paper work. When it is ready we would definitely give it out. But we still need more volunteers, as health workers are little and they can’t handle the job alone,” he said.

http://www.ekekeee.com/didnt-sack-resident-doctors-suspended-federal-government-says/[/quote


[size=18pt]https://www.nairaland.com/1861957/didnt-sack-resident-doctors-only[/size]

Nuzo1:

Some of you Drs exhibit a high level of superiority complex that can't be explained.

The survival of an Ebola patient has little to do with the presence of a Dr but the availability of the drugs....at least for now.

See your mouth like 'baff with salt water' as if Drs have the cure.

hmmm...let me put it down this way so some can get it simple..ofcourse u may already know sha.;the survival of ebola patients as u have called them has everything to do with the doctor..they are there..ok..they determine the type of conservative and supportive treatment/management plan for the ebola patients as there is or was no specific medications to tackle the ebola virus like so manu other viral diseased condition.these conservative managements are always carried out by important supportive health staff in the hospital under the supervision of the doctor who primarily owns the patient.or maybe u think or assume that since these drs are on strike..they are not participating in the care of the patient?if thats ur case..u are not right sir.

Nuzo1:

Some of you Drs exhibit a high level of superiority complex that can't be explained.

The survival of an Ebola patient has little to do with the presence of a Dr but the availability of the drugs....at least for now.

See your mouth like 'baff with salt water' as if Drs have the cure.

hmmm...let me put it down this way so some can get it simple..ofcourse u may already know sha.;the survival of ebola patients as u have called them has everything to do with the doctor..they are there..ok..they determine the type of conservative and supportive treatment/management plan for the ebola patients as there is or was no specific medications to tackle the ebola virus like so manu other viral diseased condition.these conservative managements are always carried out by important supportive health staff in the hospital under the supervision of the doctor who primarily owns the patient.or maybe u think or assume that since these drs are on strike..they are not participating in the care of the patient?if thats ur case..u are not right sir

DrLuv:
LOL.you should be thev one to actually find out how medicine is being practiced abroad...with respect to ur point particularly in major developed countries...even in 3rd world countries such as india..and u will weep for our country nigeria.yes,overthere,every health worker stays in his or her vocational calling..each group does not plot to invade the traditional jurisdiction of the other.it's so structured and boundries well defined.over there.,a doctor owns a patient hence he is infact traditionally responsible for making/taking decisions that is relevant to the wholistic wellbeing of a patient at various levels.well..it is only in nigeria where things do not work in an ideal way that u find so many aberrations,and deviations from the acceptable norm.not only the health sectors.people(both medical and non medicals) should try and find out how things are being run in major countries with fairly successful healthcare delivery systems before coming down here to post trash,critisisms,ego driven comment.,inferiority driven comments etc..maybe we can learn some ideal way forward.i am not exempting my self sha before some start..

No body is posting trash, useless criticisms, ego driven comment, Inferiority driven comments except dr or dr defenders like ocelot 2006. Mr man as far as I am concern, drs in this country Nigeria are so phobic about other health workers.

chuksbogus: the problem in health sector is that some of the professionals are not good in adapting to changes.the doctors are finding it difficult to accept that other professions are expanding,improving and evolving. they find it hard to accept that Nurses can be degree holders,master and PhD holders.they keep comparing medicine and nursing which can never be compared cos they are two different progression.One says its 6yrs course the other said its 5 years both when graduated are degree Holders. they do internship which nurses will start very soon,pharmacy and med lab are doing the same internship.pls people on appointment drs start on grade level12 other 8,and 10 and here they are asking of relativity saying yet d salary of a nurse on 12 shld not be equal to that of dr on 12 not minding that the nurse must have put up not least 9 years to 12yrs to get to that grade level 12 that a newly employed 10 is starting like wise other health professionals.they don't want others yo be consultants when the body regulating that profession has stipulated the criteria for their members to be consultants saying that they d drs suffer to be a consultant.pls if for instance nursing and midwifery council of Nigeria state that for one to be a nurse consultant he must be a masters degree holder in nursing and must have gone through with courses with west African council of nursing and is now a fellow is that not their criteria? must d nurse go through the same drs procedure to be a consultant nurse?mind you we are talking of consultant nurse not dr here .is it the issue of a director where other proffesionals outside health get to direct and now drs said that even If u have PhD that when u get to asst director you shld remain there .OK 100k hazard allowance for only drs imagine are they exposed to hazard than the nurse that stays with this patient 24/7 or the lab scientists that deals with biohazards everyday? that they are asking for only drs if others ask theirs drs will go on strike .I think the drs shld know that other professions are growing and shld accept that fact that not the nurses you have in 1980 that is around now not med lab tech now but med lab science .each profession in health shld fight to progress and be the best in their profession and forget about fighting each other cos all of them must work together for patient to get well.

You are too much. Very well said, Nigerian doctors have what I call OTHER HEALTH WORKERS PHOBIA (OHWP).

thaqib: isokuso. One doctor can cater for 120 million people!

Ekwensu oji, Nigerians always survive.

Misplaced priorities. Just think about these: #255million($1.6million) to purchase only TWO bullet proof cars. Missing 50 billion DOLLARS
(eventually scaled down to 20 billion then later to
10 billion dollars), and 10 billion naira to maintain
private jets. But government would rather sack doctors instead
of releasing 13 billion naira to pay them.

Judah1986: Misplaced priorities. Just think about these: #255million($1.6million) to purchase only TWO bullet proof cars. Missing 50 billion DOLLARS
(eventually scaled down to 20 billion then later to
10 billion dollars), and 10 billion naira to maintain
private jets. But government would rather sack doctors instead
of releasing 13 billion naira to pay them.

Please stop twisting things. most of us are in the know that the demands causing deadlock, which government cannot accede to mostly has to do with the non-monetary issues: the demands that the wishes or aims to subjugate your other colleagues in the health sector under your feet.

lanrefront1:

Please stop twisting things. most of us are in the know that the demands causing deadlock, which government cannot accede to mostly has to do with the non-monetary issues: the demands that the wishes or aims to subjugate your other colleagues in the health sector under your feet.

That's okay. You can clap for yourself

lanrefront1:

Please stop twisting things. most of us are in the know that the demands causing deadlock, which government cannot accede to mostly has to do with the non-monetary issues: the demands that the wishes or aims to subjugate your other colleagues in the health sector under your feet.

That's okay. You can clap for yourself

Below is the breakdown of the monthly earnings of a Nigerian senator:NOTE: ALL ARE IN NAIRA
Basic Salary – 2,484 245.50
Hardship Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70
Consistuency allowance (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00
Furniture Allowance (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50
Newspapers Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70
Wardrobe Allowance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37
Recess Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55
Accommodation (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00
Utilities (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83
Domestic Staff (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12
Entertainment (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83
Personal Assistance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37
Vehicle Maintainance Allowance (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12
Leave Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55
Severance grautity (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50
Motor Vehicle Allowance (400% of B.S) – 9 936 982.00 – Every Four YearsSenators’ salary per month – N 2 456 647.7
Total = N 29 479 749 * 109 Senators
Grand Total = N 3 264 329 264.10
[b]The breakdown above does not include: the quaterly unaccountable constituency allowances (35million for each house of rep. member. 48 million for each sen.), their individual convoy of tinted bulletproofs dozens of brandnew Jeeps, some unnamed backyard moneys, some big and fat handy envelops nor does it include ‘never to be known by the public’ moneys not to talk of embezzlement and bribery etc.From the breakdown one will immediately understand the reason why our politics is christianed ‘DO OR DIE AFFAIR’ for the money seems enough for any insane senator, as it seems we have, to want to end his opponent breath at election. No wonder the senate president has turned his public post into a life affair stuff. No wonder senatorial and representative sits have turned hereditarial in nature for after the said 2 terms the sit should be left for relatives or children. No wonder we kept having boxers and wrestlers in N.A instead of them representing the nation in several weight titles and championships. No wonder ‘serving’ the people is a must .
All a doctor is asking for is #100 000 monthly Hazard not hardship allowance & this appears "TOO MUCH" for Jonathan/Onyebuchi.[/b]

After all, who doesn't know that
the best treatment for a headache is to cut off the said head, even if the headache is
only pointing to a more sinister problem? Why should they ask for better equipment to
work with? Why do they need CT and MRI
machines to diagnose when we have our ancient
African technology of seeing a person miles away
in the palms of our hands? Why should they ask for grants for researches?
Shouldnt their jumbo pays be enough to fund
such studies? Why havent they found a cure for
this viral haemorrhagic fever? Why should they
fault you for begging the Americans to give us
ZMapp? What are big brothers for? Is it not to clean up their younger ones every time they pee
in their pants? Why shouldn't you blame them for the ebola
outbreak in the country? Isn't manning the
borders supposed to be part of their work? Why should they say they want to be the only
ones to be tagged a sConsultants? Is it not a mere
sobriquet every Tom, Dick, and Harry can choose
to be called by? Havent people started calling me
Professor as far back as my primary school days? Why do they oppose relativity in the health
sector? Arent men born equal? Do they think you
have forgotten that the quest for relativism
caused the biblical fall of man? Why should they
want to head the medical team because they
claim they are better intellectually equipped? Isnt that egotistical? Why should they tell you to extend universal
health coverage to all citizens? Dont they know
that the citizens are wealthy enough to fund their
medical expenses? Why are they even fighting for
the masses? Do they know how many of the
intended recipients of the policy jumped for joy when you called for the heads of their supposed
activists? Why didnt they take you by your word when you
signed the said agreement with them earlier in
the year? Why do they insist on implementation?
Dont they know ASUU went on strike for a
different reason last year, other than non-
implementation of an agreement signed in 2009? Do they think your pacts are worthless? Why should they tell you not to remind them of
their sacred Hippocratic Oath and not go on
strike? Dont they know you also took an oath
when you came into office? Shouldnt they know
you swore to protect the interest of the ordinary
citizen and that is just what you are doing? Why should they clamour for increased pay? Don't
they know that this country isnt financially
buoyant enough to meet their demands like in
the other countries? Who told them our political
office holders still manage to get the equivalent
of (or more than) what their equals in those other countries earn? The answer to the questions is obviously what
you have done. Fire the resident doctors. But dont
stop at that. Fire the consultants, the medical
officers and the house officers too. Order state
executives to sack those in their employ. You can
even fire all medical students. They could have been brainwashed by their seniors. They have
drained enough from the pockets of their parents.
The government is also wasting scarce funds
because they spend ages in medical school,
saying they dont want to be half-baked. Like we
told them we need bread! Besides their seniors are always telling them they dont know anything. Take a nip in the bud before it is too late. Lets go
back to those times when there were no doctors. Tobi Bamigbade
Medicine 600L, OAU http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/08/yes-your-excellency-sir-sack-them-all-by-tobi-bamigbade/

Judah1986: After all, who doesn't know that
the best treatment for a headache is to cut off the said head, even if the headache is
only pointing to a more sinister problem? Why should they ask for better equipment to
work with? Why do they need CT and MRI
machines to diagnose when we have our ancient
African technology of seeing a person miles away
in the palms of our hands? Why should they ask for grants for researches?
Shouldnt their jumbo pays be enough to fund
such studies? Why havent they found a cure for
this viral haemorrhagic fever? Why should they
fault you for begging the Americans to give us
ZMapp? What are big brothers for? Is it not to clean up their younger ones every time they pee
in their pants? Why shouldn't you blame them for the ebola
outbreak in the country? Isn't manning the
borders supposed to be part of their work? Why should they say they want to be the only
ones to be tagged a sConsultants? Is it not a mere
sobriquet every Tom, Dick, and Harry can choose
to be called by? Havent people started calling me
Professor as far back as my primary school days? Why do they oppose relativity in the health
sector? Arent men born equal? Do they think you
have forgotten that the quest for relativism
caused the biblical fall of man? Why should they
want to head the medical team because they
claim they are better intellectually equipped? Isnt that egotistical? Why should they tell you to extend universal
health coverage to all citizens? Dont they know
that the citizens are wealthy enough to fund their
medical expenses? Why are they even fighting for
the masses? Do they know how many of the
intended recipients of the policy jumped for joy when you called for the heads of their supposed
activists? Why didnt they take you by your word when you
signed the said agreement with them earlier in
the year? Why do they insist on implementation?
Dont they know ASUU went on strike for a
different reason last year, other than non-
implementation of an agreement signed in 2009? Do they think your pacts are worthless? Why should they tell you not to remind them of
their sacred Hippocratic Oath and not go on
strike? Dont they know you also took an oath
when you came into office? Shouldnt they know
you swore to protect the interest of the ordinary
citizen and that is just what you are doing? Why should they clamour for increased pay? Don't
they know that this country isnt financially
buoyant enough to meet their demands like in
the other countries? Who told them our political
office holders still manage to get the equivalent
of (or more than) what their equals in those other countries earn? The answer to the questions is obviously what
you have done. Fire the resident doctors. But dont
stop at that. Fire the consultants, the medical
officers and the house officers too. Order state
executives to sack those in their employ. You can
even fire all medical students. They could have been brainwashed by their seniors. They have
drained enough from the pockets of their parents.
The government is also wasting scarce funds
because they spend ages in medical school,
saying they dont want to be half-baked. Like we
told them we need bread! Besides their seniors are always telling them they dont know anything. Take a nip in the bud before it is too late. Lets go
back to those times when there were no doctors. Tobi Bamigbade
Medicine 600L, OAU http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/08/yes-your-excellency-sir-sack-them-all-by-tobi-bamigbade/

For those that don't understand, this is medical
sarcasm at its best

Judah1986: After all, who doesn't know that
the best treatment for a headache is to cut off the said head, even if the headache is
only pointing to a more sinister problem? Why should they ask for better equipment to
work with? Why do they need CT and MRI
machines to diagnose when we have our ancient
African technology of seeing a person miles away
in the palms of our hands? Why should they ask for grants for researches?
Shouldnt their jumbo pays be enough to fund
such studies? Why havent they found a cure for
this viral haemorrhagic fever? Why should they
fault you for begging the Americans to give us
ZMapp? What are big brothers for? Is it not to clean up their younger ones every time they pee
in their pants? Why shouldn't you blame them for the ebola
outbreak in the country? Isn't manning the
borders supposed to be part of their work? Why should they say they want to be the only
ones to be tagged a sConsultants? Is it not a mere
sobriquet every Tom, Dick, and Harry can choose
to be called by? Havent people started calling me
Professor as far back as my primary school days? Why do they oppose relativity in the health
sector? Arent men born equal? Do they think you
have forgotten that the quest for relativism
caused the biblical fall of man? Why should they
want to head the medical team because they
claim they are better intellectually equipped? Isnt that egotistical? Why should they tell you to extend universal
health coverage to all citizens? Dont they know
that the citizens are wealthy enough to fund their
medical expenses? Why are they even fighting for
the masses? Do they know how many of the
intended recipients of the policy jumped for joy when you called for the heads of their supposed
activists? Why didnt they take you by your word when you
signed the said agreement with them earlier in
the year? Why do they insist on implementation?
Dont they know ASUU went on strike for a
different reason last year, other than non-
implementation of an agreement signed in 2009? Do they think your pacts are worthless? Why should they tell you not to remind them of
their sacred Hippocratic Oath and not go on
strike? Dont they know you also took an oath
when you came into office? Shouldnt they know
you swore to protect the interest of the ordinary
citizen and that is just what you are doing? Why should they clamour for increased pay? Don't
they know that this country isnt financially
buoyant enough to meet their demands like in
the other countries? Who told them our political
office holders still manage to get the equivalent
of (or more than) what their equals in those other countries earn? The answer to the questions is obviously what
you have done. Fire the resident doctors. But dont
stop at that. Fire the consultants, the medical
officers and the house officers too. Order state
executives to sack those in their employ. You can
even fire all medical students. They could have been brainwashed by their seniors. They have
drained enough from the pockets of their parents.
The government is also wasting scarce funds
because they spend ages in medical school,
saying they dont want to be half-baked. Like we
told them we need bread! Besides their seniors are always telling them they dont know anything. Take a nip in the bud before it is too late. Lets go
back to those times when there were no doctors. Tobi Bamigbade
Medicine 600L, OAU http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/08/yes-your-excellency-sir-sack-them-all-by-tobi-bamigbade/

For those that don't understand, this is medical
sarcasm at its best

ocelot2006:

I'm afraid you're wrong. I hate to say this, but this is a great blunder from GEJ. Why fire the very group that keeps the Federal Hospitals running? Who's going to train the next generation of specialist doctors? Where are the poor and a huge chunk of the middle class going to run to? As we speak, a huge number of doctors have already left the country for better opportunities outside, and more are set to leave. Those left with PPs have now sworn to hike up their prices. Now who suffers? And do you really think the VERY FEW consultants we have left will be able to cater to the needs of 120mil+ citizens?

This is a MAJOR blunder from the presidency and MoH.

Your huge number of doctors that have left the country are in lagos protesting and carrying pla-cards about. Think properly before posting some-thing.

ziga:

I agree with your principle as well.

I do not work in Nigeria, so I can tell you that I have seen both sides.

The places I have worked (outside Nigeria), when a Doc prescribes or writes an instruction or whatever he wants, It is called a physician order.
So, Lab tests, medications etc are called physician orders.

So, referring to Docs instructions as orders is nothing new and that is what it is called in the part of the world where I work, that Nigerians are trying to emulate.

When I write an "order" here, it has to be performed. If it is not done, the Pharmacist or lab scientist or nurse would appropriately call to let me know if they have recommendations that might differ from mine. However, I still have the final say regarding what is done because I stand as the coordinator of care between all health workers involved and the patient.

A Doctor is trained as a diagnostician and coordinator between other healthworkers and that is why the curriculum overlaps with so many other's. A lot of people have been chanting a Doc can't be a jack of all trades, but he is. Not master of all. But he is the jack of all trades.

Regardless of what we want to cal it. That is order/instructions or anything. We should not create chaos ad we should play our parts in the care of our patients.

And this is the biggest issue I have with everything going on. Even when we work as a team, there is still a process, otherwise there is no team.

Ego is a personality trait, and a lot of people believe Docs have big Egos. Maybe true, maybe not. However, regardless of how you feel about your teammate's personality, we still have to perform our duties.

well well...we are in nigeria brother.,unfortunately things dont really work out easily in ideal ways or in pattern with nations with better/progressive health system..rather we enjoy creating 'chaos',"disorderliness" and " confusion".yes things will be better if we work within the definition of our individual professions rather than invade other co-workers',

chuksbogus: the problem in health sector is that some of the professionals are not good in adapting to changes.the doctors are finding it difficult to accept that other professions are expanding,improving and evolving. they find it hard to accept that Nurses can be degree holders,master and PhD holders.they keep comparing medicine and nursing which can never be compared cos they are two different progression.One says its 6yrs course the other said its 5 years both when graduated are degree Holders. they do internship which nurses will start very soon,pharmacy and med lab are doing the same internship.pls people on appointment drs start on grade level12 other 8,and 10 and here they are asking of relativity saying yet d salary of a nurse on 12 shld not be equal to that of dr on 12 not minding that the nurse must have put up not least 9 years to 12yrs to get to that grade level 12 that a newly employed 10 is starting like wise other health professionals.they don't want others yo be consultants when the body regulating that profession has stipulated the criteria for their members to be consultants saying that they d drs suffer to be a consultant.pls if for instance nursing and midwifery council of Nigeria state that for one to be a nurse consultant he must be a masters degree holder in nursing and must have gone through with courses with west African council of nursing and is now a fellow is that not their criteria? must d nurse go through the same drs procedure to be a consultant nurse?mind you we are talking of consultant nurse not dr here .is it the issue of a director where other proffesionals outside health get to direct and now drs said that even If u have PhD that when u get to asst director you shld remain there .OK 100k hazard allowance for only drs imagine are they exposed to hazard than the nurse that stays with this patient 24/7 or the lab scientists that deals with biohazards everyday? that they are asking for only drs if others ask theirs drs will go on strike .I think the drs shld know that other professions are growing and shld accept that fact that not the nurses you have in 1980 that is around now not med lab tech now but med lab science .each profession in health shld fight to progress and be the best in their profession and forget about fighting each other cos all of them must work together for patient to get well.

It doesn't matter if tye nursing profession has a degree now, or record keepers have PHDs, it still does NOT change the fact that the doctors head the medical team based on his/her own vast and intense years of training. When patients go to hospitals, their primary goal is to see the doctor for treatment. Every other staff member basically plays a support role, or as someone mentioned, are addendums.

Honestly, I feel the clamour by JOHeSU is based on nothing but their inferiority complex.

THUNDER4real: Your huge number of doctors that have left the country are in lagos protesting and carrying pla-cards about. Think properly before posting some-thing.

House, a baboon is stalking me (probably the monkey terrorising people at Ado - Ekiti ). Please call the zoo.

ocelot2006:

House, a baboon is stalking me (probably the monkey terrorising people at Ado - Ekiti ). Please call the zoo.

You dey craze...why don't you defend your statement, : COWARD OF THE COUNTY...

THUNDER4real: No body is posting trash, useless criticisms, ego driven comment, Inferiority driven comments except dr or dr defenders like ocelot 2006. Mr man as far as I am concern, drs in this country Nigeria are so phobic about other health workers.

@sängo4real.u just missed the whole point of that specific post"SUCCESS CAN BE REPLICATED" ,"WE SHOULD ALL FIND OUT HOW HEALTH SECTOR IN SOME DEVELOPED NATIONS IS BEING RUN WITH RESPECT TO THE REASONS BEHIND THE NMA STRIKE AND WE SHALL ALL BE BETTER FOR IT".thats the point again,the point is not about trash and etc like u referring to.besides believe me.,.no medical doctor has phobia of any definition for other health workers,what for?they are the doctors supportive staff Naaa.after all no health institution can do well optimally without other healthworkers carrying out their own designated professional assignments in their own designated professional boundaries in the institution..right,or do u have a contrary view,,lets hear it

phantom: Below is the breakdown of the monthly earnings of a Nigerian senator:NOTE: ALL ARE IN NAIRA
Basic Salary – 2,484 245.50
Hardship Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70
Consistuency allowance (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00
Furniture Allowance (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50
Newspapers Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70
Wardrobe Allowance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37
Recess Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55
Accommodation (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00
Utilities (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83
Domestic Staff (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12
Entertainment (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83
Personal Assistance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37
Vehicle Maintainance Allowance (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12
Leave Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55
Severance grautity (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50
Motor Vehicle Allowance (400% of B.S) – 9 936 982.00 – Every Four YearsSenators’ salary per month – N 2 456 647.7
Total = N 29 479 749 * 109 Senators
Grand Total = N 3 264 329 264.10
[b]The breakdown above does not include: the quaterly unaccountable constituency allowances (35million for each house of rep. member. 48 million for each sen.), their individual convoy of tinted bulletproofs dozens of brandnew Jeeps, some unnamed backyard moneys, some big and fat handy envelops nor does it include ‘never to be known by the public’ moneys not to talk of embezzlement and bribery etc.From the breakdown one will immediately understand the reason why our politics is christianed ‘DO OR DIE AFFAIR’ for the money seems enough for any insane senator, as it seems we have, to want to end his opponent breath at election. No wonder the senate president has turned his public post into a life affair stuff. No wonder senatorial and representative sits have turned hereditarial in nature for after the said 2 terms the sit should be left for relatives or children. No wonder we kept having boxers and wrestlers in N.A instead of them representing the nation in several weight titles and championships. No wonder ‘serving’ the people is a must .
All a doctor is asking for is #100 000 monthly Hazard not hardship allowance & this appears "TOO MUCH" for Jonathan/Onyebuchi.[/b]

pls go into politics proper and stop trying to politic with your profession.

THUNDER4real: No body is posting trash, useless criticisms, ego driven comment, Inferiority driven comments except dr or dr defenders like ocelot 2006. Mr man as far as I am concern, drs in this country Nigeria are so phobic about other health workers.

What is this leather - nyash baboon yapping about? "Inferiority driven comments"? You must be high on expired Alomo . And why will Drs have a phobia over other workers? Which one? The nurse, lab technician, cleaner, or record keeper? As much as don't want to belittle these other professions, the doctor's years of training, experience, and other qualifications places them ahead of others in the hospital. Every else's there to play SUPPORT ROLES. Yes they must work as a team, but the doctor is still the team lead in the hospital.

Do you now understand, Okponu?

Today I met one of my patients that I performed a myomectomy for some months ago. She told me that the federal government must be very foolish to sack doctors and she sympathised with me. Truly I was moved and it was then that I remembered that it is only those that have benefited from a doctor's touch that truly appreciate him. Please my colleagues, ignore those that hate us with inordinate hatred. And for those who just make judgements carelessly, fuelled by bitterness and envy without knowing the facts, I want you to remember Jesus Christ's words in Matthew 12:36= "But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken."

DrLuv:
@sängo4real.u just missed the whole point of that specific post"SUCCESS CAN BE REPLICATED" ,"WE SHOULD ALL FIND OUT HOW HEALTH SECTOR IN SOME DEVELOPED NATIONS IS BEING RUN WITH RESPECT TO THE REASONS BEHIND THE NMA STRIKE AND WE SHALL ALL BE BETTER FOR IT".thats the point again,the point is not about trash and etc like u referring to.besides believe me.,.no medical doctor has phobia of any definition for other health workers,what for?they are the doctors supportive staff Naaa.after all no health institution can do well optimally without other healthworkers carrying out their own designated professional assignments in their own designated professional boundaries in the institution..right,or do u have a contrary view,,lets hear it

Mr man, they are not supportive staff, they are professionals in their various field, you are an overgrown id-iot for saying that and you are one of the problems of the health field. Your egocentrism will carry you to your DOOM.. In developed country, they don't see other health workers as supportive staffs, what they know is come and do your function whether as a dr, nurse pharmacist, etc and do it effectively.

ocelot2006:

What is this leather - nyash baboon yapping about? "Inferiority driven comments"? You must be high on expired Alomo . And why will Drs have a phobia over other workers? Which one? The nurse, lab technician, cleaner, or record keeper? As much as don't want to belittle these other professions, the doctor's years of training, experience, and other qualifications places them ahead of others in the hospital. Every else's there to play SUPPORT ROLES. Yes they must work as a team, but the doctor is still the team lead in the hospital.

Do you now understand, Okponu?

You that escaped from yaba left.....MAD MAN ALERT!!!!! The pharmacist, lab.Scientist, Nurses etc are all professionals in their own field. So bagger why will drs overshadow professionals, are they mad or high on something? No body is in the hospital to play support role but carry his or her own function.....Coward, you have not defended your previous statement and you are here arguing, DEMENTED FOOOOOLLLLL....WHAT DID I CALL YOU DEMENT..... .. . ....

but that is what they are .they are support staff. if they are not,why are the hospitals dead?

look ,the earlier these people realise that they even HAVE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THE DOCTORS,the better for them.

phantom: but that is what they are .they are support staff. if they are not,why are the hospitals dead?

look ,the earlier these people realise that they even HAVE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THE DOCTORS,the better for them.

If they go on strike, and only drs are on duty, the hospital will be more dead than it is now.

THUNDER4real: Mr man, they are not supportive staff, they are professionals in their various field, you are an overgrown id-iot for saying that and you are one of the problems of the health field. Your egocentrism will carry you to your DOOM.. In developed country, they don't see other health workers as supportive staffs, what they know is come and do your function whether as a dr, nurse pharmacist, etc and do it effectively.

wao!lollllll.indeed that name really fits u.being a supportive staff does not make them less professional at all.clearly u dont get the contextual meaning of the term.heeehheeeheee...tot we were expressing our individual views and opinions,didnt really expect some extremely bogus unrefined barbaric responses but u just keep häving oral convulsions steming from a brain with seizure disorder.but i feel u bro...just let it out ...all the hatred.,esteem issues,personality issues..let it out bro..if it makse u feel better.pele

THUNDER4real: If they go on strike, and only drs are on duty, the hospital will be more dead than it is now.

oga you know this is not true. when johesu goes on strike they lock up vital equipment doctors need just to frustrate us.
they have been known to even lock doctors out of departments.
instances abound where JOHESU mandates its members to switch of power from the gen when doctors are busy in the theatre.
clinics and wards run. theatres run. you know this is a fact!!